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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
John D wrote: It's all good as far as I am concerned.

Of course, Michigan was one of the States to loose a congressional seat (like NY and CA and others). But I am happy with the national experiment of "sorting". People can live where they want. I am in great shape as far as this goes. I expect Michigan will be a premium place to be - one of these days soon. Lower taxes, mostly normal people (except Detroit and Ann Arbor), amazing resources, and beautiful coastline. I am not a big fan of "unity". Unity is what gets us in wars and creates terrible government overreach. Let the games begin and we will see who wins.
The problem with the re-sort is, it creates groupthink communities. With no counter-balance, one-party states, cities, congressional districts grow more and more extreme. Connecticut, where I grew up, used to be evenly balanced between Dem and GOP. Our long-time senator and Gov, Lowell Weicker, was the original 'maverick', a moderate Republican who was out of place in the Reagan Revolution GOP, and would be considered a neonazi by today's Dems. CT has now gone completely radical left. Its US senators are extreme anti-gun, pro-immigration, full-retard wokesters who win in landslides.

And, as much as I'd love to see the pussies in Portland and SF suffer from the product of their bankrupt ideology, and the mini Mugabes of Baltimore and Detroit sink with their corrupt ships, we will need those cities back at some point.
I'm not saying things will not be bad. I am just saying that there is nothing we can do to stop it. Americans are fucking retarded right now. Only a further disaster will get our fellow citizens to change their behavior. I am just gonna stay out of the way.

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Further - In retarded science... the "scientists" have determined... absolutely... that t-rex could only walk at about 2 miles per hour. It could not run.... it could not stroll... it could not trot. Nope. The "scientists" have proven that the largest apex land predator in history was slower than Joe Biden... Haha. Fucking hilarious. Even if t-rex was a scavenger, the idea that an apex predator would be slow is... well... retarded. It is like how they think pterosaurs were weak flyers... or sauropods had to live in the water (since they were so large).

https://www.businessinsider.com/t-rex-d ... tSuBjEjpYo

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John D wrote: I am just gonna stay out of the way.
I'll PM you with suggestions on how to stay out of the way, in a range of calibers. LOL.

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If nothing else, the no-trannies-in-girls-sports bills are good for some major jimmie rustling:


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Matt Cavanaugh wrote: If nothing else, the no-trannies-in-girls-sports bills are good for some major jimmie rustling:

Why do women hate other women so much? So much that they would let fake men compete in sports against them? Fucking clown world.

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Today was fish market day. And also May Day.

So two clusters of protesters showed-up.

the Democratic Socialists of America-- or "AOC", for short-- gathered in patch of city park, a little too far away from any sidewalks or other people. Maybe they were going to march somewhere later. But in the hour or 2 that I had an eye on them-- they seemed like 50 shy nerds, too far from anyone-- for their flags, signs, or t-shirts-- to be legible. Their stuff was all a specific shade of red.... that was too light to match the familiar old Soviet red. Was it pink on purpose? Because they're Communism-lite? Because everything protest-y has to be gay? Because they're all computer graphic designers with the same cookie-cutter training in 'branding'?

This is their flag:




The other batch of protesters were from Extinction Rebellion. Another 50+ people. Thin, frizzy-haired post-menopause vegan cat-lady types, dressed like 'gypsy' jewlery peddlers at a street fair. And their testosterone-free greyhaired hippie male equivalents. They had a half dozen cardboards signs on 'popsicle' sticks, which fitted-together like a jigsaw puzzle-- in the shape of an elephant. When the signs flipped, each had a crudely-painted image: a hurricane, melting ice shelf, a tornado, a rock-slide, a fissure of earthquake, a wildfire... After revealing the natural disasters, they tried to re-form into an elephant-- but it took 5 full minutes to figure-out their own 6 piece puzzle.

They also had people with twelve-foot-tall masts strapped to their bodies. Suspended from the masts were giant puppets made of water bottles. Probably skeletons, but they looked like the Breeder Queen in an Alien sequel.

And they had a fucking bullhorn. Old White Lady #1 gave a generic invocation to the stolen native land-- but then started improving & went full racist cliches: Emoting about the sage wisdom of the extinct noble peoples and their profound wise sorrow and wise forgiveness and hippie yadda yadda.

Old White Lady #1 then bullhorned, "It's May First! But we can wish it was still Earth Day! That every day was as wonderful as Earth Day was!" Clearly she's such a know-nothing that 'Earth Day' is a concept she understands, but she really has no idea what May Day represents."

Then she announced that the most effective protest is "always Interracial. And Inter-generational!" Sounded like porn catagories. She passed the bullhorn to a couple of 8 year old asian girls with flowers in their hair. Who proceeded to impersonate people from all the protests they've been taken-to. The fish captain didn't like this part. He heckled, "Leave the kids out of it!" His wife told him to stop. I told him he should probably not engage-- that they were more like a performance-art cult for bored retirees, than a political faction. And they have all the free time in the world, to come protest him every week-- if he caught their attention.

One thing I realized, from the Extinction Agenda crew-- was that the The Left only objects to QAnon for One Reason: QAnon is on the wrong side. But there's nothing too new-age, or tacky, or divorced-from-facts ,or counter-productive about QAnon... to separate it from Leftist S.0.P. They'd fit right in.

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My tribute to May Day. Be gratefully full of gratitude.


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President Joe Biden's pointless reminiscing about Choo-Choo Train schedules of yester-year--

Ends with brief guest appearance by his hot grand-daughter, in the last few seconds...



Then President Joe Biden walks-off with his hand on his grand-daughter's ass.


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FAKE NEWS: I thought that was streaming from WaPo.

But hitting "SHOW MORE" in the lowbar reveals:

"video is modified, obviously"

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So... this is not like some great revelation or something... haha... but a thought came to my mind tonight. My old lady was searching through Amazon Prime and Netflix looking for something we could watch to together. And... everything she wanted to watch was actually revolting to me. She asked about the series about Marie Currie because it would be "scientific" and I was like... "no.... it's gonna be preachy feminist bullshit and it will not be historical... why would I watch that?... how about an actually documentary about Currie?... I will watch that with you." And she is like "But it's historical." and I am like "None of the dramas are historical... they are all bullshit."

Anyway. no documentaries for me.

And .... my revelation is this. Almost everything on Netflix and Prime are basically the same as daytime soap operas for the 1960s to 1980s. Every show is formulaic stupid soap opera storytelling. Complete shit. I am amazed at the number of titles available.... and it is all complete shit. Really... like hundreds of titles... and all the same shit.

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The only thing I'd recommend on Netflix-- is 'The Last Kingdom', which combines swashbuckling adventure with the historic setting of Alfred The Great's England contending with the Vikings arriving and making themselves at-home.

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And it-too has soap opera elements.

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https://io9.gizmodo.com/racism-is-how-y ... 1846791627
'Racism+' Is How You Get Shows Like The Falcon and the Winter Soldier
Presumably Racism+ is Racism Plus Social Justice, like for Atheism+.

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Service Dog wrote: The only thing I'd recommend on Netflix-- is 'The Last Kingdom', which combines swashbuckling adventure with the historic setting of Alfred The Great's England contending with the Vikings arriving and making themselves at-home.
Quite a good show.

Watched it a while back although my (then) GF was uncomfortable with the show because it portrays Alfred in a positive light. As social-justice historians will confirm, he was a literal nazi scumbag and should be dug-up, dragged through the streets then stricken from history.

Note: The actor who plays Alfred nails the role! Creepy religious zealot, very focused/driven but quite duplicitous. Then again, it's good to be the king...

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The official Communist Party Of Great Britain being utterly trashed on twatter!



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Been a busy week up here on my high horse looking down and sneering at the US hoi polloi, doggy, and doing my bit to spread the word that will spark the new world order of real untested communism through MMT.

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Was going to continue replying in good faith, but read your drivel and thought fuck it. It doesn't actually matter. The earth will continue to go around the sun, turkeys will continue to vote for Christmas, and the modern monetary system will continue to be driven full bore with the handbrake on.

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Ha!

Kiwi is trying to Big Time me. Kiwi is only concerned with matters of Copernican scale.

Lsuoma tried to Big Time me, also. Too busy birdwatching to engage. Well, watch this: a kiwibird calling the turkeys flightless!


Meanwhile, their Voodoo Economics Pyramid Scheme with an SJW twist-- was on full display in Biden's big speech.

MMT is pushing cloth.

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KiwiInOz wrote: Been a busy week up here on my high horse looking down and sneering at the US hoi polloi, doggy, and doing my bit to spread the word that will spark the new world order of real untested communism through MMT.

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Was going to continue replying in good faith, but read your drivel and thought fuck it. It doesn't actually matter. The earth will continue to go around the sun, turkeys will continue to vote for Christmas, and the modern monetary system will continue to be driven full bore with the handbrake on.
You took your time. I admire your fartitude.


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Service Dog wrote:
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Sounded like porn catagories.
2 GILFs, 1 bullhorn?

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John D wrote: So... this is not like some great revelation or something... haha... but a thought came to my mind tonight. My old lady was searching through Amazon Prime and Netflix looking for something we could watch to together. And... everything she wanted to watch was actually revolting to me. She asked about the series about Marie Currie because it would be "scientific" and I was like... "no.... it's gonna be preachy feminist bullshit and it will not be historical... why would I watch that?... how about an actually documentary about Currie?... I will watch that with you." And she is like "But it's historical." and I am like "None of the dramas are historical... they are all bullshit."

Anyway. no documentaries for me.

And .... my revelation is this. Almost everything on Netflix and Prime are basically the same as daytime soap operas for the 1960s to 1980s. Every show is formulaic stupid soap opera storytelling. Complete shit. I am amazed at the number of titles available.... and it is all complete shit. Really... like hundreds of titles... and all the same shit.
Got my GF to watch this a couple weeks back, and she was cracking up the whole way through:




Last night we were gonna watch some British Muzzleloaders, but she fell asleep before we could decide between the Lee-Metford and the Baker Pattern 1800.

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"People don’t understand, because everything’s so cancel-culture, woke bullshit nowadays, but you could never have the punk explosion nowadays, because of cancel culture and woke bullshit," he continued.

"You could never have it. It would never have happened. We’re lucky it happened when it did, because it’ll never happen again. You won’t have any of those kinds of bands ever again. Everyone’s so uptight and P.C., it’s just like, 'Okay, whatever.'” - Danzig

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justinvacula wrote: "People don’t understand, because everything’s so cancel-culture, woke bullshit nowadays, but you could never have the punk explosion nowadays, because of cancel culture and woke bullshit," he continued.

"You could never have it. It would never have happened. We’re lucky it happened when it did, because it’ll never happen again. You won’t have any of those kinds of bands ever again. Everyone’s so uptight and P.C., it’s just like, 'Okay, whatever.'” - Danzig

https://loudwire.com/glenn-danzig-punk- ... -bullshit/
There have been socially conservative periods in the past - but things still managed to change.

Maybe it's just my bias - can I whenever I hear the name Danzig - it invokes Nazi connotations.

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That. Was. Amazing.

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MarcusAu wrote: Maybe it's just my bias - can I whenever I hear the name Danzig - it invokes Nazi connotations.
That's cuz you have blinkers on.

http://www.americanclassicpedigrees.com/danzig.html

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Make Gdansk Danzig Again

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John D wrote:
Sat May 01, 2021 9:15 am
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
John D wrote: It's all good as far as I am concerned.

Of course, Michigan was one of the States to loose a congressional seat (like NY and CA and others). But I am happy with the national experiment of "sorting". People can live where they want. I am in great shape as far as this goes. I expect Michigan will be a premium place to be - one of these days soon. Lower taxes, mostly normal people (except Detroit and Ann Arbor), amazing resources, and beautiful coastline. I am not a big fan of "unity". Unity is what gets us in wars and creates terrible government overreach. Let the games begin and we will see who wins.
The problem with the re-sort is, it creates groupthink communities. With no counter-balance, one-party states, cities, congressional districts grow more and more extreme. Connecticut, where I grew up, used to be evenly balanced between Dem and GOP. Our long-time senator and Gov, Lowell Weicker, was the original 'maverick', a moderate Republican who was out of place in the Reagan Revolution GOP, and would be considered a neonazi by today's Dems. CT has now gone completely radical left. Its US senators are extreme anti-gun, pro-immigration, full-retard wokesters who win in landslides.

And, as much as I'd love to see the pussies in Portland and SF suffer from the product of their bankrupt ideology, and the mini Mugabes of Baltimore and Detroit sink with their corrupt ships, we will need those cities back at some point.
I'm not saying things will not be bad. I am just saying that there is nothing we can do to stop it. Americans are fucking retarded right now. Only a further disaster will get our fellow citizens to change their behavior. I am just gonna stay out of the way.
That's how the ideology gained the ascendancy in the first place, too many people choosing short term safety and security over their convictions. Not so long ago it would only have taken a few more of the silenced majority to develop backbones to reverse the trend, but I think it's a bit late now. You'll be lucky if your states can regain the autonomy they currently enjoy, so don't get too comfortable. Your new overlords demonstrate every day that they really do mean to 'revolutionise' America and they will do so whatever it takes.

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Keating wrote: Make Gdansk Danzig Again
Get Down and Gdansk!

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If you ever run short on military-grade verbal ammo, Bhurzo, you can re-load at the beach!


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Break Dancing News. I mean, breaking Gdansk news. Major bites Danzig girlz. No, wait, Danzig girlsk bite Major.

Major missink after major inksidinkt.



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Lsuoma wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote: Been a busy week up here on my high horse looking down and sneering at the US hoi polloi, doggy, and doing my bit to spread the word that will spark the new world order of real untested communism through MMT.

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Was going to continue replying in good faith, but read your drivel and thought fuck it. It doesn't actually matter. The earth will continue to go around the sun, turkeys will continue to vote for Christmas, and the modern monetary system will continue to be driven full bore with the handbrake on.
You took your time. I admire your fartitude.
I know.

He has some competency in creative writing, but seems to like playing mole in discussions (styling himself as a moving target). So I'm going to assume that whatever he writes, from now on, is fiction. It'll save time.

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After asking for an explanation of MMT simple enough for someone kicked in the head, I was treated to several pages of wonderist walls of text that boiled down to ipse dixit. Leaving me with my initial impression that MMT amounts to: the currency won't devalue so long as we all pretend we haven't devalued the currency.

I look forward to our imminent hyper-inflation and eventual adoption of the Yuan.

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KiwiInOz wrote: He has some competency in creative writing, but seems to like playing mole in discussions (styling himself as a moving target). So I'm going to assume that whatever he writes, from now on, is fiction. It'll save time.

Oh no no no...

Don't lie to yourself. That's not what happened.

You were presented with an honest critique of the most popular MMT book, by a well-informed peer of MMT's founder.

And all you did was repeat MMT mantras, without facing the Murphy's critique head-on.

Then you gave up before you even reached the meat of the critique:
Service Dog wrote: Don't forget...


The place where you stopped responding-to Bob Murphy's review of Kelton's MMT book-- was the sentence immediately-before this subheading:

"THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM WITH MMT
Now that we’ve set the table, we can succinctly state the fundamental problem with Kelton’s vision..."

Other subheadings to look forward to:

TOUGH QUESTIONS FOR MMT

MMT IS ACTUALLY WRONG ABOUT MONEY
Money Mistake #1: The Treasury Needs Revenue Before It Can Spend
Money Mistake #2: Taxes Don’t Prop Up Currencies
Money Mistake #3: Debt Isn’t Money

DO GOVERNMENT DEFICITS EQUAL PRIVATE SAVINGS?

THE MMT JOB GUARANTEE
"The last item I wish to discuss is the MMT job guarantee. Strictly speaking, this proposal is distinct from the general MMT framework, but in practice I believe every major MMT theorist endorses some version of it..."

CONCLUSION
" Stephanie Kelton’s new book The Deficit Myth does a very good job explaining MMT to new readers. I must admit that I was pleasantly surprised at how many different topics Kelton could discuss from a new view, in a manner that was simultaneously absurd and yet apparently compelling. The problem is that Kelton’s fun book is utterly wrong. The boring suits with their standard accounting are correct: It actually costs something when the government spends money. The fact that since 1971 we have had an unfettered printing press doesn’t give us more options. It merely gives the Fed greater license to cause boom/bust cycles and redistribute wealth to politically connected insiders."

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote: After asking for an explanation of MMT simple enough for someone kicked in the head, I was treated to several pages of wonderist walls of text that boiled down to ipse dixit. Leaving me with my initial impression that MMT amounts to: the currency won't devalue so long as we all pretend we haven't devalued the currency.

I look forward to our imminent hyper-inflation and eventual adoption of the Yuan.
One man's primer is another man's repeating of mantras.

In response to Paul Ryan, Alan Greenspan noted: “I wouldn’t say pay-as-you-go benefits are insecure in the sense that there’s nothing to prevent the federal government creating as much money as it wants in payment to somebody.”



Ben Bernancke noted, when asked if the $1 trillion bailout of the banking system came from taxpayers (about 8 mins in): “It’s not tax money. The banks have accounts with the Fed, much the same way that you have an account in a commercial bank. So, to lend to a bank, we simply use the computer to mark up the size of the account that they have with the Fed. It’s much more akin to printing money than it is to borrowing.”

“You’ve been printing money?” 60 Minutes correspondent Scott Pelley replied.

“Well, effectively. And we need to do that, because our economy is very weak and inflation is very low,” Bernanke says.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ben-bernan ... allenge/2/

The treasury needs revenue before it can spend? Bullshit.

Spending money into the economy causes inflation?

Where was the inflation after this $1 trillion was created and allocated to the banks?

How can Japan's inflation be 0.3% when its deficit is 240% of GDP?

How can the US inflation rate be 1.69% when its "debt" is $27 trillion, the highest it's ever been?

Hmm. Maybe they aren't quite as tightly coupled as suggested by orthodox economics.

And as for asking how can you atheists be good without God how can we trust politicians not to just spend, spend, spend if they knew this? We actually have checks and balances for this because unfettered and mistargeted spending, or giving largesse to the favoured, can cause problems. It's just that the limits are not what you have been led to believe.

Tl:dr? Fuck off.

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KiwiInOz wrote: Tl:dr? Fuck off.
Finally, something that makes even the slightest bit of sense.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote: Tl:dr? Fuck off.
Finally, something that makes even the slightest bit of sense.
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KiwiInOz wrote: Tl:dr? Fuck off.
No.


Not, "TL:DR". That's you & Lsuoma scurrying-away, when confronted with a rebuttal. I'm not the one who pretended I have better things to do-- than discuss this. I've got all the time in the world. Bring it on.

Except:
KiwiInOz wrote:
One man's primer is another man's repeating of mantras.
You never advance beyond the primer stage.

You give your opening arguments. You're met directly, head-on, with a cogent response.

You fucking repeat your opening arguments, dripping with personal insults. Then you whine like a victim when I insult you back.
Then you flounce.
Then you blow the flounce with cringe-y parting shots. It's painful to watch you be so uncool. But also hilarious.

Enough love-making!...

You aren't blowing my mind with that Greenspan quote. Followed by the Bernanke quote.
Those are the SAME anecdotes in every introductory MMT sales pitch.
You're a fucking creationist who won't stop repeating the miracle of the banana story.
You're Joe Biden tell us he "rode the train to Scranton" again.

My browser history says Tell Me If You've Heard This One Before:

"MMT: Here's a plain-English guide to 'Modern Monetary Theory' - Business Insider
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"In 2005, in testimony to the US House Committee on the Budget, former Fed chairman Alan Greenspan....
"I wouldn't say pay-as-you-go benefits are insecure in the sense that there's nothing to prevent the federal government creating as much money as it wants in payment to somebody....You can see a video of the exchange here.
https://www.businessinsider.com/modern- ... 019-3?op=1"


and


Modern Monetary Theory - Wikipedia
Search domain en.wikipedia.orghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_monetary_theory
"For example, as former Chair of the Federal Reserve Alan Greenspan said, "The United States can pay any debt it has because we can always print money to do that. So there is zero probability of default."


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Here's the problem, tho, Kiwi.

I haven't been responding to you from a Greenspan/Bernanke/Keynsian/Fed-apologist perspective.

To me, the word of Greenspan & Bernanke-- is on a par with the word of Doctor Fauci & Jussie Smollett !

(Very recently, Keynsians HAVE been calling-out MMT for it's lack of substance: Paul Krugman, Larry Summers, Jerome Powell at the Fed.)
https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/larry ... 09244.html

HOWEVER, My criticisms of MMT are from the Ludwig von Mises/ Austrian perspective.

...I've been following the lead of Bob Murphy, Tom Woods, Jeff Deist, and RON PAUL.


From where I stand, you & Kelton are the SAME as Greenspan. Your only twist on REAGANOMICS... (fucking Voodoo Economics!)... is the AOC Wish List.

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KiwiInOz wrote:
The treasury needs revenue before it can spend? Bullshit.
That's your entire refutation of all I've said on this subject! One word: "Bullshit". THAT'S NOT AN ARGUMENT. THAT'S A BIRD NOISE.

To that I say: :clap: Take that! a one-emoji counter-argument!

Or you could read the relevant section of Bob Murphy's review of Kelton's book. He tackles this issue directly. He also did-so in Episode 24 of his podcast (the follow-up to his interview with Mosler). Which I also posted, several days ago.
KiwiInOz wrote:
Spending money into the economy causes inflation?
Answer: YES. See my previous posts on this. This time you don't even provide the one-word reply of "bullshit". You just put a question mark on the end of my assertion. That's not a refutation of what I said.
KiwiInOz wrote:
Where was the inflation after this $1 trillion was created and allocated to the banks?
I answered that one previously, as well.

I've got your Trillion Dollar inflation, right here:

https://slymepit.com/phpbb/search.php?k ... mit=Search
KiwiInOz wrote: How can Japan's inflation be 0.3% when its deficit is 240% of GDP?
The generic Austrian answer is that there's nothing in the BOOM-BUST CYCLE which requires inflation and deficit to track each other exactly. Quite the opposite: the very nature of a 'bubble' is that it inflates until it bursts. (Maybe seismic pressure is a better image: lots of little earthquakes or one big one... when it finally comes.) The specific-to-Japan answer is that Japan is a rather unique form of crony capitalism: there's the deal which is presented to the outside observer/ and the backroom handshake deal between govt & business... in which they cover for each-other like the murderers in Hitchcock's 'Strangers On A Train'. If MMT proponents want to replicate Japan's ULTRA-RIGHT-WING RACIAL ETHNO-NATIONALISM model-- then they've got some 'splainin to do to all the tree-hugging Bernie Bros who think Hitler Was Bad.
KiwiInOz wrote: How can the US inflation rate be 1.69% when its "debt" is $27 trillion, the highest it's ever been?
You just asked the same question op cit, while still ignoring my previous replies:

Last time, I even highlighted the answer in bright yellow for you:
https://slymepit.com/phpbb/viewtopic.ph ... 40#p502540[/highlight]
KiwiInOz wrote: Hmm. Maybe they aren't quite as tightly coupled as suggested by orthodox economics.
You're repeating an MMT myth. That's what happens when you only listen to your own side. The 'tightly couple' assumption of 'orthodox economics' which you describe-- is a strawman.

Paul Krugman pointed-out that MMT doesn't describe anything that wasn't already known to Orthodox Economics since the Lerner Curve was developed in 1943. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/12/opin ... nkish.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall% ... _condition

And since orthodox economics already explains this allegedly 'new' phenomenon, then MMT loses it's claim to being a necessary, ground-breaking paradigm change. The old rules still apply. Keynsians think they can ride & control that sandworm. Austrians think it's folly to try.
KiwiInOz wrote: And as for asking how can you atheists be good without God how can we trust politicians not to just spend, spend, spend if they knew this? We actually have checks and balances for this because unfettered and mistargeted spending, or giving largesse to the favoured, can cause problems. It's just that the limits are not what you have been led to believe.
Except the limits ARE what I said they were: When the Fed prints money like George Floyd with a twenty bucks & a photocopier-- that causes catastrophic distortions in the economy. Under the status quo version of MMT-- the freshly-printed money is lavished-upon The Rich first, so they get the first mover advantage of spending that money-- before any TRICKLES DOWN to the The Poor. Under Kelton's Socialist MMT-- the freshly-printed money would be lavished-upon enormous govt contract boondoogle projects, trickling-down to The Poor about-as-well as those things usually do. (For example, look at the Billions which were alloted to go to small mom & pop businesses within a mile of Ground Zero after 9/11. Instead of street-level dry cleaners & pizza delivery shops getting the relief... every Cokehead MBA Asswipe on Wall Street was 'incorporated' for tax reasons, as a one-man 'small business', so those fuckheads gobbled up all the relief money, before mom & pop could figure-out the paperwork.)

The best Austrian compromise I can offer-- would be for all the MMT freshly-printed money to be handed DIRECTLY to each citizen-- with no guardrails on how they spend it. Guns, crack, whores, flashy nigger clothes, whatever. AND NO BAIL-OUT when fools and their money are soon parted.

But Democrats & Socialists don't trust the Poor Poor poor to spend their own money, as they see fit. You guys have to meddle, 'for their own good'. you think they're fucking TURKEYS voting for Christmas, remember? So you can't let them vote for themselves.
KiwiInOz wrote: Tl:dr? Fuck off.

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Just yesterday, Dr. Ron Paul published an article about MMT.

Ron Paul began by quoting a quip from Murray Rothbard-- which is a direct-hit on Kiwi:

“It is not a crime to be ignorant of economics. But it is totally irresponsible to have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while remaining in this state of ignorance."

Ron Paul plucks more feathers, decrying Kiwi's

"..ignorance of basic economic principles regarding the role of money in a free market economy. Money—whether precious metals, fiat currency, crypto, or some other good—is more than the unit of account that makes exchange possible. Money is also a key part of the equation of the price system, which allows market participants to discover the highest use of goods and services as determined by the demonstrated preferences (i.e., what they willing to spend their money on) of consumers, investors, workers, and business owners. A freely functioning price system and a stable currency are thus the key to a proper functioning market.

The most important information conveyed by prices is the price of money itself, which is the interest rates. When central banks increase the money supply to facilitate government spending, they artificially lower interest rates. This distorts the information interest rates convey to market actors. This results in investors sinking money into projects not supported by underlying market conditions. This leads to a boom which is inevitably followed by a bust. MMT’s policy of never-ending increases in the money supply would create more (and bigger) bubbles, leading to more (and bigger) busts."


Ron Paul sees Kiwi quoting MMT-fans quoting Greenspan, and agrees to cook them all in the same pot:

like most “mainstream” economists, misidentifies inflation as a "rise in the price levels." But rising price levels are an effect, not a cause, of inflation. Inflation is the very act of money creation by a central bank.

Inflationary policies, such as those embraced by proponents of MMT, benefit those already at the top of the economic and political ladder. This is because those at the top of the financial pyramid are the first to receive the newly created money. This means they enjoy an increase in purchasing power before the central bank’s actions cause prices to increase. In contrast, by the time middle- and working-class Americans see a (nominal) boast in their incomes, the Fed’s inflationary policies have already caused prices to increase. These price increases are usually greater than the increase in wages. So, their real wages decline. This “inflation tax “is the most insidious tax of all, because it is both regressive and hidden.


Unlike Kiwi, Ron Paul doesn't just repeat his own beliefs. He sagely listens to Kiwi & gives direct reply to Kiwi's claims about the 'real limit' on govt spending:

Contrary to proponents of MMT, inflation’s pernicious effects are not limited to times of “full employment.” Instead, they are felt any time the central bank artificially lowers interest rates. Full employment itself is nothing but an arbitrary number chosen by economists and bureaucrats and is thus easily manipulated to make the economy seem stronger than it is.

Government statistics can also be manipulated to understate the true unemployment rate. One way this is done is to not count people who have given up looking for a job in the headline rate. Instead, one must delve deeply into the data to discover the extent to which discouraged workers have been forced out of the labor market.

Government statistics also understate the effects of inflation. One way they do this is via the Chained Consumer Price Index. The Chained CPI does not consider an individual to be negatively impacted by central bank–caused price increases if they can still afford lower-priced “substitute” goods. So even if you can no longer afford steak, you have not been negatively impacted by rising prices if you can still buy hamburger. Of course, if hamburger were really an adequate substitute for steak, individuals would have been buying cheaper hamburger when they were able to afford both hamburger and steak.


I'm not sure why Ron Paul keeps referring to Kiwi as "Cull-birth" or "Cockbreath" or something like that, but he does. I hope I'm not doxxing the poor bird.

MMT Relies on Trusting Government "Experts" to Plan the Economy
The way government officials manipulate economic statistics points to another major flaw in Culbreath’s case for MMT: accepting it requires placing an enormous amount of trust in the integrity and wisdom of government officials.

For MMT to work, the Federal Reserve must have the ability to know exactly how much the money supply needs to increase in order to support expansion of government without damaging the economy. Congress, with the help of government “experts” must know when the economy has reached full employment. When the economy reaches full employment, Congress must be able to determine exactly how much to increase taxes and which taxes to increase to keep inflation from damaging the economy.

The great Austrian economist Ludwig von Mises demonstrated that government planners could not manage the economy without damaging people’s standard of living. This is because the only way to know the value of goods is by how much individuals pay for them. Government’s use of force to take control of those resources makes it impossible to know their true value, thus making it impossible to perform rational economic calculation. Mises’s student, Nobel Laureate F.A. Hayek pointed out that there is no way central planners—including democratically elected politicians and central bankers—could have the knowledge necessary to effectively manage an economy.

One need not have read the works of Mises, Hayek, and other Austrians to understand the folly of thinking government “experts” (much less politicians) can successfully run the economy. A cursory exclamation of the numerous failures of attempts at central planning throughout history will show that government “management” of the economy inevitably fails.

As should be obvious, the critique of modern monetary theorists' claim that an expansionist monetary policy can fund the government is not an endorsement of “paying for” big government via income or some other form of taxes. Taxation also distorts the economy, making rational economic planning impossible.


Hmmm.... some of Ron Paul's "Culbreath" insults seem directed-at Joe Biden's recent big-spender speech, as much as at Kiwi:

Culbreath also seems to think that this “conversation” will result in more spending benefiting the “average American.” But even assuming MMT works as promised, the fact is that those already tied in with the political class—which means crony capitalists and other special interests—will still be the ones with the time and resources to devote to influencing government policies. So, the result of Mr. Culbreath's “conversation’ will be a corporatist system that benefits the military-industrial complex, Big Pharma, big banks, Wall Street, and other special interests, leaving welfare crumbs for the ordinary Americans.

Mr. Culbreath also ignores how MMT, by encouraging a more “active” federal government, violates the principles—embedded both in the constitutional doctrine of federalism and the Catholic doctrine of subsidiarity—that social programs should be provided by the level of government closest to the people. Of course, the best way to provide education, healthcare, and charity is through private and religious institutions.


Oh, dang! Oh, snap! Oh, baby!... Ron Paul is digging deep in the record-crate. Pulling out some rare groove deep cuts. From, like, 8 days ago-- when Kiwi was trying be clever by using the term "Is/Ought" to claim that MMT is a Settled Science "is" and the MMT doubters are hopelessly delusional "ought" relics, who can't admit that recent data has proved their prior predictions wrong. I guess Ron Paul is satisfied with my prior replies about 'where the inflation went', because he's not responding to Kiwi from that angle. Instead, Ron Paul gently points-out that Kiwi was misusing the "Is/Ought" distinction. When adults are talking in serious circles, the "Is" component describes what is Right according to amoral mathematics. The "Ought" is a moral/ethical consideration: what's Right to do. For example, murdering half the population would undeniably double every survivor's share of the world's wealth-- but that doesn't mean we _should_ emulate Thanos. Ron Paul gently bitch-slaps Kiwi by invoking the philosophical notion of Virtue, using Kiwi's debate partner's (Joe Biden's) own Catholic religion-- against Biden:

The Federal Reserve’s currency deprecation undermines the virtue of thrift and encourages short-term thinking. The growth of the welfare state that MMT is designed to facilitate undermines the virtues of self-reliance and reliance on family, friends, private charities, and churches and replaces them with reliance on government welfare. Expansion of government-provided welfare also encourages the mentality that one is entitled to live off the fruits of their fellow citizens’ labor. These seem odd goals for a conservative to be promoting.

It also seems odd for a conservative Catholic to promote expansion of the role of the same government that funds abortions and is aggressively waging war on religious believers who refuse to live by their beliefs, even it if means refusing to bake cakes for same-sex couples or objecting when boys demand to play girls sports.

Modern monetary theory is nothing more than a new version of the old myth that governments need not worry about restraining spending because a government-controlled central bank can pump money into the economy.

MMT suffers from the same flaws as every other version of this fairy tale. The only long-term benefit of the adoption of MMT is that it will hasten the inevitable collapse of the welfare-warfare fiat money system.



Aww shucks, folks. I was pulling your leg. Ron Paul wasn't REALLY replying to Kiwi.

Kiwi just said such GENERIC SAME OLD SAME OLD MMT PRIMER shit... that Ron Paul's rebuttal to some other guy... applies equally-well to Kiwi.

https://mises.org/wire/no-conservatives ... mbrace-mmt

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Hey, Dog, here's spunk in your eye. Questioning TL;DR, posts a fuck-ton of non-read stuff in two posts. 2/10 for trolling. Must try harder.

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Actually, I'm wondering if we need Hunny Bunny to see if Doggo is actually plagiarizing his stuff instead of composing it. I can't tell because I can't bring myself to read it - I'd rather shoot my face off. Not enough time in my life to engage with people like Dogster - out feeding deer and raising bees.

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In general, I'm skeptical of any school of thought whose advocates, when I tell them I'm not persuaded and ask them specific questions, reply by either repeating the same thing over and over, or by telling me I'm obviously too brain-damaged to understand.

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Lsuoma wrote: Hey, Dog, here's spunk in your eye...
Ok... what have you got?
Lsuoma wrote: ...Questioning TL;DR, posts a fuck-ton of non-read stuff in two posts.
Are you drunk? I'm not sure what you were attempting to say. "Questioning TL;DR" means... what? I think you misread the exchange between Kiwi & me.

And what's "non-read stuff"?

If you're suggesting I haven't read the links in my 2 posts-- I gotta ask: Why do you find it so-hard to believe that I looked-up the Wikipedia entry for MMT... 2 weeks ago, back when you raised the subject? And the "Plain-English guide to 'Modern Monetary Theory" article from Business Insider. For the Krugman & Summers links... listen to Episode 24 of Bob Murphy's podcast. You'll hear Murphy make reference to all the items I posted, so it will be easier to believe I googled those items while listening to him talk.

Bob Murphy's treatment of the topics was WAAAAAY more clear & concise than mine, of course. But there's zero chance you or Kiwi would listen to the podcast. So I had to paraphrase, in my own clumsy way.

How you doing, Lsuoma, you big vagina? Does "This place now gives me a sad..." again?

The most memorable part of my day was finding this Chinese kid on the street, utterly immobile, looking dead. His cellphone under his body.



Several Gen Z people saw him & just decided to walk-up a different block. Only after GF & I got involved-- the same Gen Z types-- let themselves come closer, to stare. Woke little sociopaths.

He didn't respond to shaking or yelling at him. I even kicked the bottom of his shoe.

I called 911-- had a stupid argument with them, since I only knew the name of the major cross-street & the street one-block east of where he was. I told 911 to look-up the name of the street One Block West of a street I _could_ name... and send the ambulance There.

Instead the dumb bitch just kept saying "I need a street name" at me. Eventually the Ambulance came-- to the wrong-side of the major street which i DID name... even tho I told them we were on the south side of that median. I had to run thru traffic & show them where to go.

Returning to the kid-- at last he was visibly breathing & moving. When he saw the Ambulance lights-- he tried to stand & claim to be 'fine' and walk away... almost fell flat on his face. He admitted to GF-- in chinese-- that he was very drunk. Had been abandoned by his friends.

The streets are covered with gravel & trash these days. It blows in the wind. Grimy dust coats faces. Mayor DeBlasio's plywood shantytown of 'socially distanced outdoor dining' has stopped all streetsweepers from cleaning-up, for months.

Gas has been out in our building, for a couple days. So we've been eating Saturday's haul of fish raw. Flounder Cerviche. Tuna on salad. Tasty, but cold food is getting repetitive. So we went out for restaurant food. A rarity. Instead of the multi-racial derelict and poor-people population, the sidewalks are suddenly full of the low-end of middle-class blacks. Clean new stereotypical clothes. New flashy cars. On the fat side, but expensive grooming. License plates from Baltimore Maryland & Virginia. New Caribbean themed restaurants cater to them, and a bar named after a dead rapper. In a way, they're more annoying than the walking-dead homeless & junkies. These are chicks who assert their diva-hood by being cunty to wait-staff or strangers on the sidewalk. Their boyfriends aren't looking for full-on combat to the death-- but they are quick to bark at each other & everyone else. I'm curious why this-specific demographic suddenly predominates here. A few streets over-- the brunch and nightlife customers are whiter-than-ever. Maybe there's a silent self-segregation increasing in this time of BLM. The woke whites & woke blacks are more wary of each other than ever.

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Service Dog wrote:
Lsuoma wrote: Hey, Dog, here's spunk in your eye...
How you doing, Lsuoma, you big vagina? Does "This place now gives me a sad..." again?
Not as such - the fact that you are currently the most prolific poster (and currently least enlightening) gives me a sad.

And I think that the fact that you report "interesting" and "streety" stuff very frequently makes you very suspect as a reporter. You may tell a good story - I find you fairly tedious, though other may not - but I suspect you are a great tailor of the whole cloth.

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Lsuoma wrote: Actually, I'm wondering if we need Hunny Bunny to see if Doggo is actually plagiarizing his stuff instead of composing it. I can't tell because I can't bring myself to read it - I'd rather shoot my face off. Not enough time in my life to engage with people like Dogster - out feeding deer and raising bees.
Make up your mind. Engage or don't.

But this routine-- where you drop-in just-enough to reveal you didn't understand what I said/ then declare you're too lofty to pay attention-- yeesh!

A handful of years ago I worked with 'Phil', a charismatic, smarmy, preppy, guy. Genuinely clever, but low-key wicked. Like maybe he'd been bullied as a kid & decided to never be on the losing-side again, even if he had to constantly be a dick, to avoid it.

We were holding drinks at the art gallery where we worked-- an opening for a 'hot' artist. Some arty celebrities like David Byrne attending. 'Phil' pointed to a rich art collector & said, "this guy 'big times' me, every time. Watch."

Phil said 'hi'. The collector pretended to not recognize Phil. It was painfully obvious he was faking. Phil re-introduced himself & reminded the guy of their last couple of interactions (arranging a sale, or delivery, or such.) The more he was called-out, the more pathetically the collector doubled-down on pretending to be too important to possibly remember Phil. "Ah... I was arranging to accompany a Basquiat to Shanghai... no wonder I do not recall this petty moment you describe".

Phil wouldn't let the guy off the hook. He kept twisting the knife. The 'big timing' routine was so predictable-- that Phil had cyber-stalked the guy & memorized all sorts of personal details. Phil started mentioning supposed past encounters with the collector which Had Never Happened! ("How's your son? What a bar mitzvah that was!") It was glorious. Having denied any memory of Phil-- and having pretended-not-to-care-- the collector couldn't-now admit that these new, fake past-encounters were actually, disturbingly outside his recollection.

Phil was a terrifying dude & he made me nervous. In a moment of personal crisis, he once gave me some valuable life advice. He often made me laugh. But he wasn't my friend.

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Lsuoma wrote: the fact that you report "interesting" and "streety" stuff very frequently makes you very suspect as a reporter. You may tell a good story - I find you fairly tedious, though other may not - but I suspect you are a great tailor of the whole cloth.
I'll take more pictures.

And work on the prose. Bad writing makes tedious stories more tedious.

But it won't matter.

You aren't gonna meet me halfway. You're gonna stay in your comfort zone.

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Life is too short Doggie. I recant my acceptance of the evidence and confess that I now love your orthodox explanation for how the modern monetary system works.

E pur si muove

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For context-- to understand my point of view--

Here's something I posted last August. It's long & rambling. So skip the link, if you want:
https://slymepit.com/phpbb/viewtopic.ph ... 63#p498263

In short: across 2 decades-- I posted in another place, run by another guy, a scientist called "Tim". We thought highly of each other. We met in person only once. He trust my advice, to allocate his retirement money. I almost moved-in into his home, when I was broken-hearted & homeless. Trump divided us. I could understand him thinking Trump was worse than Hillary. But he couldn't comprehend me feeling the opposite way. Same as so many people's relationships, strained by politics in recent years.

His online demeanor became brittle, mood swings, odd inability to see when he was contradicting himself. He would snarl nasty personal insults/ then be shocked & take offense when I returned the favor. Then he died at 63. I fear suicide, or that 2020 bad vibes contributed to his death. And that my failure to remain in his good graces-- contributed.

As proof, here are the dregs of his site. A few stray souls still trying to maintain contact.
https://timbuk3.com/discuss/

Please take this in the least melodramatic way possible: but this current bickering reminds me of Tim, makes me worry. Hopefully, the similarities are just superficial.

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This is DD. He's 67. In his time, he was a famous modern ballet dancer. He's quite remarkable-- his grandfather was a folk hero in Puerto Rico, fighting for independence. DD grew up in Detroit-- running around with the Black Panthers & Iggy Pop. He dated Madonna before she headed to NYC. His brother is a heavy duty studio musician-- the music behind some of Eminem's biggest rap hits-- is all his brother's. He rides a Harley & does manual labor in art galleries-- like I used to do. He seems like he'd have nothing to do with High Art, but he's toured the world with Yo-Yo Ma & Baryshnikov.

In the late 80's his dance troupe hosted a summer seminar. Two high-school-girl dancers attended. One was a girl I knew, from a school across town. Became my wife for a quarter-century. The other became his, for almost as long. I idolized him like a puppy looking up to a big dog, was honored to be his friend. Now he lives a one-minute walk away from me. (On the same street that unconscious Chinese kid was on, actually.)

He spray painted FUCK TRUMP on the back of the white t-shirts & wifebeaters he wears every day. FUCK TRUMP in gaffe tape on his hoodie. Over the last couple years, he'd get worked-up-- he sits in the sun, on the curb or on a box-- seething loudly about 'That motherfucker!" Raging that his other brother-- a plastic surgeon in Hollywood-- has gone 'white' (Republican). When he's shouting & jabbing his finger in the air-- people think he & I are in a personal argument. But I don't recall us arguing. I endure his political rants, then he tolerates mine. We talk about the old days in the dance world (I was not a skilled dancer, but I danced with a serious troupe & managed a choreographer.) We recommend tv & movies & youtube stuff to watch. For what it's worth-- his 'all these white men need to die' rants usually end with him saying his own bad attitude is also a problem, and he needs to die too, for the world to move forward.

A week or so ago... I told him I thought the Chauvin verdict would backfire: The things Chauvin was accused-of are officially 'brutality' now. But society still wants cops to do that exact-same stuff... hold-down big guys on drugs who are are resisting arrest... and so society will Legalize police brutality. To me, this wasn't an unsympathetic thing to say, to a pro-BLM person. I certainly have opinions they'd hate much-more. He didn't push back when I said it. But it really bothered him.

A week ago, I brought him extra sushi rolls gf made from the fish market haul. The next day, breaded fried fillets. The day after that, I saw him on the street. We talked about being misanthropic. And he told me, "You're one of the smartest guys I know. I really mean that. But sometimes-- things you say about what you believe-- when the revolution comes, am I going to have to kill this motherfucker with all the other white people?"

It took me a full day to get butthurt that the guy I give fish to-- and years of nothing but admiration-- would imagine killing me as just-another white enemy. He & I are basically the same color, if I spent that-much time in the sun. Our mothers are both white, dads both hispanic. He speaks fluent Spanish, I don't.

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Last year, I posted about PW. Another friend, another art world guy, older than me, again--

PW turned his Trump Derangement Syndrome into an art project. Got some publicity from it, sold some art.

Last year he had a psychotic break. Apparently tried to kill his house-mate, threatened his brother, roamed wild in the street.

https://slymepit.com/phpbb/viewtopic.ph ... er#p496123

This is PW, with glitter & paint on his face.



He has phoned me a few times, recently. He didn't seem more crazy than the decade I've known him. Possibly a little less crazy than usual.

Neither he nor I have acknowledged the psychotic episode. Maybe he doesn't know I know.

Or maybe he knows I know-- and is testing to see whether I'll mention it. I'm wary of reconnecting. I did offer free fish, if he stops by the market.

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Service Dog wrote:

This is DD. He's 67. In his time...<snip>
He sounds quite troubled, certainly someone I'd not be able to relax around. I know the type although the sky-jabbers I know are on the other end of the political spectrum.

I have carefully removed people like this from my life and must admit, I'm much happier for it!

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Jump to 01:53 to behold Candace Owens in mid 7.62mm frenzy!



Ah, a thing of utter beauty! A hot woman and an even hotter MG!

Sorry, shit-posting as usual. :P

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So... yeah... I would still be willing to help edit a book by Dog and I enjoy is stories. It is one of the highlights here in my view.

and... really... MMT is just a new way for the elites to fuck everyone else. I don't know exactly what to call it... rent seeking I guess. Anyone who got at least a C grade in macroeconomics and is also the least bit skeptical should be able to see this for what it is.

But... I have decent protection again inflation when it does hit.... so... fuck it.

The only thing is to know when the bubble will pop so I can properly time my exit from stocks. Everyone I talk too says there is never going to be a time when I want to exit from stocks.... and you know what... if everyone is saying it then it must be wrong.

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Bhurzum wrote: Jump to 01:53 to behold Candace Owens in mid 7.62mm frenzy!



Ah, a thing of utter beauty! A hot woman and an even hotter MG!

Sorry, shit-posting as usual. :P
Doncha just love how a woman's butt jiggles when she's running a belt-feed in the prone?

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Biden economic advisor admits we'll soon be seeing "transitory inflation" (8:45). If this lying dog-faced pony soldier, who spent the entire interview dodging questions, concedes that, it means they really expect massive, runaway inflation (a feature, not a bug, for them.) Even the dickless wonder was skeptical:


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Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Biden economic advisor admits we'll soon be seeing "transitory inflation" (8:45). If this lying dog-faced pony soldier, who spent the entire interview dodging questions, concedes that, it means they really expect massive, runaway inflation (a feature, not a bug, for them.) Even the dickless wonder was skeptical:

So... Grandpa Joe's plan to keep corporations in Ameirca (once we have the highest tax rate) is to talk to other countries and to get them to also increase corporate taxes.... Haha! You can't make up something this funny.

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Biden economic advisor
Excellent 2 minute rebuttal, by Dave Smith:
@45min25sec

https://youtu.be/9YKRRNd_9hg?t=2725


(But don't listen to Dave Smith, sez Kiwi. Corporate Welfare could never happen, because we've got "checks and balances" to prevent it ever occurring.)

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John D wrote: Everyone I talk too says there is never going to be a time when I want to exit from stocks.... and you know what... if everyone is saying it then it must be wrong.
That Contrarianism is an actual school of investing strategy. I was a believer, circa 2000. (Still am, in the abstract-- but I don't watch the markets daily or hardly at all.) Back then, I read 'Prudent Bear' and 'iTulip'. Those guys were right about the housing bubble, but 8 years early about when it would pop. At the moment, I can only think of examples of contrarian doomsayers being right too-early. Rather than too late.

It would be pretty funny if the sky-is-falling-in-12-years climate Thunbergs... are right about everything... but they are too optimistic. And the world ends this Thursday.

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