The existence of the Selfie is the thing about my species I understand the least.
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There's also this oldie but goodie:screwtape wrote: ↑Get a copy of The Herd Instinct in Peace and War by Sir Wilfred Trotter. I have a soft spot for Trotter, not just for his useful bone-nibbling forceps that I always neatened up digits with when they had confronted the business end of a a chainsaw, but for endowing a gold medal for junior surgery at UCHMS (which I won in 1979).Shatterface wrote: ↑ We need a DSM of social pathologies the way we do for individual pathologies. There are psychological issues that only manifest - or at least are magnified - in groups.
We also need to be aware of how even reporting on on phenomena can boost them. There are guidelines on reporting suicide clusters, for instance, or eating disorders or self-harm. Responsible journalists don't make this behaviour look exciting or novel or cool.
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1) A very rare number of people internally feel they are of the opposite sex from an early age. This I'd label 'true transgender';DrokkIt wrote: ↑We don't know yet, but as more information emerges we get a clearer picture:
https://telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/22 ... fferences/
The issue with your solution (stop emphasising gender) assumes the cause of this is external, but I personally suspect that for the most part some people just feel this way. Sure, you are going to get transtrenders who jump on the bandwagon precisely because of the buzz around it, but you had 'gender bending' gay behaviour from otherwise straight men in the 70s- no reason to deny actual gay men exist because of that.
2) Another rare group of men have the paraphilia of being sexually aroused by imagining or seeing themselves as women. They live as men for most of their lives with no indications of dysphoria, then transition in adulthood. They usually declare themselves either 'lesbian' or asexual. These are autogynephiles like Bruce Jenner and Dave Muskrat;
3) A rare number of females who were physically masculinized in the womb by screwed up hormones end up identifying as men, the rest move to San Francisco;
4) Some same-sex-attracted people believe their attraction means they should be the opposite sex. This is culture-driven and a common, usually passing phase for many young gays;
5) A growing number of young people exhibit no indications of GD in early childhood, then suddenly declare themselves trans, usually in waves of groups of friends. A shocking number of them are teenage girls on the Autism spectrum, others are non-conforming 'gender benders', some are attention-seeking narcissists.
These are distinct phenomena, and there may be more categories. To prescribe one cure for all -- rapid transition with hormones & surgery -- is criminal.
Oh, and the brain scans don't say much at all. Living & acting as the opposite sex could easily affect the physical brain.
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Pretty decent list horse.
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1) is what we used to call transsexual.
I think they're what most people think of when we are talking about transgender, and most people would be surprised when you tell them they are a minority, and often marginalised within the transgender community.
I think they're what most people think of when we are talking about transgender, and most people would be surprised when you tell them they are a minority, and often marginalised within the transgender community.
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By coincidence, the Hawaiian shirt I mentioned above features Tony the Tiger. Maybe I should dig it out and cause some real offence...
http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/ar ... 0jsv0HTXYUIN DEFENCE OF TONY THE TIGER
Public-health advocates are moving in on the one danger we’ve all been missing: cereal-box cartoon characters. That’s right, Tony the Tiger, Cap’n Crunch, Count Chocula, and Snap, Crackle and Pop are all after our children. But, luckily, the European Union, the World Health Organisation (WHO) and Jamie Oliver are here to protect us.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtsQwicbsy4Shatterface wrote: ↑ By coincidence, the Hawaiian shirt I mentioned above features Tony the Tiger. Maybe I should dig it out and cause some real offence...
http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/ar ... 0jsv0HTXYUIN DEFENCE OF TONY THE TIGER
Public-health advocates are moving in on the one danger we’ve all been missing: cereal-box cartoon characters. That’s right, Tony the Tiger, Cap’n Crunch, Count Chocula, and Snap, Crackle and Pop are all after our children. But, luckily, the European Union, the World Health Organisation (WHO) and Jamie Oliver are here to protect us.
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I don't eat Frosties because of the advertising anyway. I eat them because they are grrrreat.
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God bless Elfwick.
Also funny:
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Good job, activists! Now the movie probably won't get made. And if it does, no one will see it. Way to leverage the power of story to inform the 99.7% about who you are and how you deserve to be treated with respect!
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I think it's good news for everyone that nobody will accidentally see a film about a transman who runs massage parlours just because it had Scarlet Johannson in it and they thought it might be entertaining.
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Also, the pride of your community probably oughtn't be invested in movies about brothel keepers.
Isn't there a transperson who cured cancer or something?
Isn't there a transperson who cured cancer or something?
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Too bad they couldn't inflate it with their egos.
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Things I discovered this week:
Picnic on Hanging Rock was based on a novel, not a historical incident.
I never knew that.
Picnic on Hanging Rock was based on a novel, not a historical incident.
I never knew that.
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These brats have no idea how pampered they are in this age of ubiquitous video. Not long ago, they would've been beaten for their assholery.
I saw a long version of this earlier. You can hear the white kids taunting one of the black cops by calling him a nigger. Several times.
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Huh. I didn't know that, either. It turns out the novel actually had a resolution that was removed before publication, then published separately after the author's death.Shatterface wrote: ↑ Things I discovered this week:
Picnic on Hanging Rock was based on a novel, not a historical incident.
I never knew that.
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The nigger thing is at the end of the video as well. I wonder what the story is behind these arrests.
Anyway, I don't think they were have been beaten without the videos. I think we live in a country where idiots like this get to be idiots. I just love how sure the filmers are that everyone will see this cops don't absolutely nothing wrong and agree with them that this is like Hitler rounding up Da Jews.
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It would be really nice if all those kids disparging the police got to form their own little state, no police. My guess is that it wouldn't last more than a week, even if they managed to feed themselves.
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Geez, I watched that completely stupid movie about aliens eating scotsmen just cuz it had ScarJo very naked in it.Shatterface wrote: ↑ I think it's good news for everyone that nobody will accidentally see a film about a transman who runs massage parlours just because it had Scarlet Johannson in it and they thought it might be entertaining.
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I wonder if they would get guns?CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑ It would be really nice if all those kids disparging the police got to form their own little state, no police. My guess is that it wouldn't last more than a week, even if they managed to feed themselves.
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Geez, I watched that completely stupid movie in the vain hope those girls would get so hot that ... well, you don’t need to know.Shatterface wrote: ↑ Things I discovered this week:
Picnic on Hanging Rock was based on a novel, not a historical incident.
I never knew that.
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We now have mass amounts of kids claiming to be trans, so I think the 80% stat is going to go right out the window. I suspect it'll wind up more like 99%.screwtape wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:21 amAbsolutely normal behaviour in younger age groups is to imitate under the influence of peer pressure. So of course there will be what some have called 'transtrenders' and the younger ones will not be making a political statement like the college-age kids with blue hair; they will be truly confused. We know that 80% of kids with gender dysphoria (not capitalised as I'm including all gender unhappiness and confusion rather than just strict DSM-V cases) will eventually become content with their biological sex, but experienced clinicians who point that out get fired (see Ken Zucker's case) and the new norm is to affirm and commit the kids to an irreversible decision without waiting to see if the situation sticks. There's is even great criticism of those who prefer to conduct a proper psychological evaluation to see what else is going on (after all, at the minimum putting someone on testosterone when they have unresolved mental health conditions isn't likely to work out well). The woman who introduced the Dutch puberty-blocking regimen to America, Laura Edwards-Leeper, is now reviled for not simply tossing kids on to the regime without an assessment. The result of all this will be rising rates of de-transitioning, and if you think not all transitioners pass, think how de-transitioners get by. You lost your fertility, your breasts, your vagina or your penis. Your voice is deep and won't ever be feminine. Removing a pseudopenis and trying to fashion a neo-vagina in a pelvis filled with scar tissue from the removal of the vagina you were born with isn't going to be possible for most, and results in a caricature when it is. Then see what happens to suicide rates. Responsibility will lie at the door of the SJWs who have recklessly and irresponsibly demanded such shoddy care for children.Shatterface wrote: ↑ We need a DSM of social pathologies the way we do for individual pathologies. There are psychological issues that only manifest - or at least are magnified - in groups.
We also need to be aware of how even reporting on on phenomena can boost them. There are guidelines on reporting suicide clusters, for instance, or eating disorders or self-harm. Responsible journalists don't make this behaviour look exciting or novel or cool.
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Yes. They may not clean them, however.comhcinc wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:23 pmI wonder if they would get guns?CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑ It would be really nice if all those kids disparging the police got to form their own little state, no police. My guess is that it wouldn't last more than a week, even if they managed to feed themselves.
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BTW Everyone.
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I always figured we'd solve the mystery when the skeletons turned up with Abo toothmarks or alien probes up their butts.Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑Geez, I watched that completely stupid movie in the vain hope those girls would get so hot that ... well, you don’t need to know.Shatterface wrote: ↑ Things I discovered this week:
Picnic on Hanging Rock was based on a novel, not a historical incident.
I never knew that.
How the hell can we ever solve a mystery that didn't happen?
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I knew that. Book is pretty fucking goodShatterface wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:39 amThings I discovered this week:
Picnic on Hanging Rock was based on a novel, not a historical incident.
I never knew that.
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Tony The Tiger? Reminds me of this infamous case a few years back thanks to our wacky Crown Prosecution Service.Shatterface wrote: ↑ I don't eat Frosties because of the advertising anyway. I eat them because they are grrrreat.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... _n_6064160Andrew Holland, 51, was wrongly accused of possessing bestiality porn in 2009, but charges were dropped 6 months later, when authorities realized that what they thought was a video of a woman and a tiger was actually a video of a woman and a human man in a tiger costume, according to the Independent.
Now, the Welsh bus driver is fighting against the United Kingdom’s “Extreme Pornography Act,” the New Statesman reports.
Officials realized their mistake in Holland’s case when they noticed that the tiger said “That’s grrrrrrreat!” in the manner of Frosted Flakes’ Tony the Tiger. Holland was cleared of a second charge nine months later, when a 6-second-clip that prosecutors said showed violent genital mutilation turned out to be a “spoof” video featuring ketchup and cocktail sausages.
Holland says both videos had been sent to him by friends as jokes, and that even though he was eventually let off the hook, his life was permanently damaged by the accusations.
“I lost my job, I had to move and I ended up having a heart attack with all the stress of it,” he told the Independent. “People were ringing me in the middle of the night. Three young lads turned up at my door and were calling me everything. I was threatened on more than one occasion.”
Holland and his legal team want the Crown Prosecution Service to review the Extreme Pornography Act. In a letter sent to the head of the CPS last week, Holland’s lawyers say that none of this would have happened if the U.K.’s Extreme Pornography Act, a measure implemented in 2008, were not so vague.
His attorneys argue that because the law uses “inherently subjective” terms like “grossly offensive” and “disgusting,” it’s not clear what constitutes an “extreme” image under the law:
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For sure- I wasn't posting that as proof, merely that the science is incomplete at this point.Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑1) A very rare number of people internally feel they are of the opposite sex from an early age. This I'd label 'true transgender';DrokkIt wrote: ↑We don't know yet, but as more information emerges we get a clearer picture:
https://telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/22 ... fferences/
The issue with your solution (stop emphasising gender) assumes the cause of this is external, but I personally suspect that for the most part some people just feel this way. Sure, you are going to get transtrenders who jump on the bandwagon precisely because of the buzz around it, but you had 'gender bending' gay behaviour from otherwise straight men in the 70s- no reason to deny actual gay men exist because of that.
2) Another rare group of men have the paraphilia of being sexually aroused by imagining or seeing themselves as women. They live as men for most of their lives with no indications of dysphoria, then transition in adulthood. They usually declare themselves either 'lesbian' or asexual. These are autogynephiles like Bruce Jenner and Dave Muskrat;
3) A rare number of females who were physically masculinized in the womb by screwed up hormones end up identifying as men, the rest move to San Francisco;
4) Some same-sex-attracted people believe their attraction means they should be the opposite sex. This is culture-driven and a common, usually passing phase for many young gays;
5) A growing number of young people exhibit no indications of GD in early childhood, then suddenly declare themselves trans, usually in waves of groups of friends. A shocking number of them are teenage girls on the Autism spectrum, others are non-conforming 'gender benders', some are attention-seeking narcissists.
These are distinct phenomena, and there may be more categories. To prescribe one cure for all -- rapid transition with hormones & surgery -- is criminal.
Oh, and the brain scans don't say much at all. Living & acting as the opposite sex could easily affect the physical brain.
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Bugger off. He was cool.
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Edward Woodward was the original Shatterface:
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Sorry, it was Shatterface. I'll mark you down as thinking sex is unreal, OK?
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Rather liked the character 'Lonely' in Callan - reminded me of Bluebottle.
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Callan is a great antidote to the glamorous spy shows of the Sixties.
I love Danger Man, The Avengers, The Man from UNCLE and the rest, but sometimes you just need something that reminds you how squalid the real thing could be.
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Welp, if Baltimore is any indication, refer to 2017 sees highest murder rate ever in shrinking BaltimoreCaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:15 pmIt would be really nice if all those kids disparging the police got to form their own little state, no police. My guess is that it wouldn't last more than a week, even if they managed to feed themselves.
OK, having dropped my dog whistle showing I am racist, causing harm, committing violence, and classicist, and incidentally clearly showing that I am a misogynist, not to mention my implied homophobia, xenophobia and sexism."The conventional wisdom, or widely agreed upon speculation, suggests that the great increase in murders is happening partly because the police have withdrawn from aggressively addressing crime in the city's many poor, crime-ridden neighborhoods," said Donald Norris, professor emeritus of public policy at the University of Maryland Baltimore County.
I now present City under siege: A look back at the 1981 Halifax police strike
I suppose I could mention 1969: Montreal’s ‘night of terror’While the rest of the city was relatively quiet, the crowd there turned into an unruly mob, fueled by booze and a sense of anonymity. Things got ugly.
Windows were smashed, stores on Gottingen were looted, drivers were pulling doughnuts and racing outside police headquarters - all the while, striking officers stood by and watched.
Montreal is in a state of shock. A police officer is dead and 108 people have been arrested following 16 hours of chaos during which police and firefighters refused to work
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Shatterface wrote: ↑http://www.televisionheaven.co.uk/img/c ... times5.jpg
Callan is a great antidote to the glamorous spy shows of the Sixties.
I love Danger Man, The Avengers, The Man from UNCLE and the rest, but sometimes you just need something that reminds you how squalid the real thing could be.
Russell Hunter aka Mr Stabs from Ace Of Wands.....
"Hand of Stabs
Turn This Fool
Into a fish
Without a Pool"
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I see Ol' Jean-Claude Drunker has been seen out and about with a skinful again...
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Can we arrest them anyway? There's gotta be something...InfraRedBucket wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:23 pmTony The Tiger? Reminds me of this infamous case a few years back thanks to our wacky Crown Prosecution Service.Shatterface wrote: ↑ I don't eat Frosties because of the advertising anyway. I eat them because they are grrrreat.
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https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... _n_6064160Andrew Holland, 51, was wrongly accused of possessing bestiality porn in 2009, but charges were dropped 6 months later, when authorities realized that what they thought was a video of a woman and a tiger was actually a video of a woman and a human man in a tiger costume, according to the Independent.
Now, the Welsh bus driver is fighting against the United Kingdom’s “Extreme Pornography Act,” the New Statesman reports.
Officials realized their mistake in Holland’s case when they noticed that the tiger said “That’s grrrrrrreat!” in the manner of Frosted Flakes’ Tony the Tiger. Holland was cleared of a second charge nine months later, when a 6-second-clip that prosecutors said showed violent genital mutilation turned out to be a “spoof” video featuring ketchup and cocktail sausages.
Holland says both videos had been sent to him by friends as jokes, and that even though he was eventually let off the hook, his life was permanently damaged by the accusations.
“I lost my job, I had to move and I ended up having a heart attack with all the stress of it,” he told the Independent. “People were ringing me in the middle of the night. Three young lads turned up at my door and were calling me everything. I was threatened on more than one occasion.”
Holland and his legal team want the Crown Prosecution Service to review the Extreme Pornography Act. In a letter sent to the head of the CPS last week, Holland’s lawyers say that none of this would have happened if the U.K.’s Extreme Pornography Act, a measure implemented in 2008, were not so vague.
His attorneys argue that because the law uses “inherently subjective” terms like “grossly offensive” and “disgusting,” it’s not clear what constitutes an “extreme” image under the law:
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And Kiy Uvanov in Doctor Who - The Robots of Death:InfraRedBucket wrote: ↑Russell Hunter aka Mr Stabs from Ace Of Wands.....
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/tar ... 1015153337
It was the Seventies. We all dressed like that.
I have Ace of Wands on DVD. Children's TV was pretty trippy back then.
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So, I follow KiA a little, but not much. Anyone have more information about the drama there?
Will Lsuoma ever do that here?
Will Lsuoma ever do that here?
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Only what I see in reddit drama.
After four years, autistic creator of a subreddit tries to delete it, as he is annoyed with the bigotry that often is expressed within, gets overruled by admins and hounded by the mods and redditors.
FWIW, I think the creator of a subreddit or the FT at SP should be able to delete their creation, regardless of how many people have subbed to it. As a guest, I'd hate to see the SP go away just as I get value from KIA, but I think it's bullshit that the creator cannot delete his own subreddit.
The best theory I heard was that the admin needs KIA to exist as "it contains the group" and they don't want the shitshow that would arise with its deletion as reddit goes open warfare.
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1:46 John: Trump has the brain of a 13-year-old boy
16:13 Glenn: Trump will be viewed as more effective than Obama
26:28 Is Trump an idiot? A savant?
40:16 Glenn: Clarence Thomas is a symbol of African-American excellence
49:58 John wishes Thomas wasn’t silent at oral argument
56:38 Critiquing the black intelligentsia
69:28 How big of a problem is the “Starbucks and swimming pools” problem?
Glenn Loury (Brown University) and John McWhorter (Columbia University, Lexicon Valley)
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This was a terrific podcast, esp at 1.5x. Glenn is an MIT trained economist, often described as conservative, McWhorter a linguist, a more progressive, moderate liberal.
This discussion was not quite a fight, and these two are obviously good friends, but the gist is, is Trump an idiot 13 year old who can't see past his immediate needs and presumably a puppet of his staff and donors, or is Trump this wildly effective guy reshaping the US to his well thought out plan.
I don't think either point of view is correct, but it was a very entertaining, and actually fun podcast to listen to while walking.
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Hey, wrasslin' fans, I just finished watching GLOW on NetFlix. Gorgeous Ladies of Wrestling, a fictionalized show set in the mid 80s. Wife enjoyed it, I've seen a lot worse. Back to your regularly scheduled programming.
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Seeing all those made me realize what a gem our Ape is...