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Also Chomsky is an Utopian. His ideal society is an anarco-socialist one. I think that's why he's so keen on forgiving the flaws of "leftist" regimes.

Personally I believe that any form of anarchism is a chimera: not only any political system can be gamed by ambitious, determined, clever or charismatic people who build their own version of a hierarchy, either formal or (usually worse) informal, human beings simply aren't pro-social enough to make anarchy work. We're tribal creatures.

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If only the A+ commune had been established at Chernobyl a true grass roots Chompskyite utopia could give a shining example for our broken world. :fpig:

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Kirbmarc wrote:Also Chomsky is an Utopian. His ideal society is an anarco-socialist one. I think that's why he's so keen on forgiving the flaws of "leftist" regimes.

Personally I believe that any form of anarchism is a chimera: not only any political system can be gamed by ambitious, determined, clever or charismatic people who build their own version of a hierarchy, either formal or (usually worse) informal, human beings simply aren't pro-social enough to make anarchy work. We're tribal creatures.
Yeah, this is the main reason why I dislike him so much. I'm sick and tired of hearing naive utopians drone on about how the western civilization is the great Satan, and if only their ridiculous ideology were in charge everything would be perfect and they would eliminate hunger and violence. Jordan Peterson talks a lot about this, and it's part of the reason I like the guy. His view is that you shouldn't compare western civilization to an unrealized ideal, you should compare it to everything else that has ever existed. The soviet union and maoist china were founded by utopians. How many more societies do these shit heads need to ruin before they'll be willing to recognize the pattern?

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Kirbmarc wrote:
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Within the skeptic/atheist community what she said was acceptable. But what was also acceptable at the time is any time your bring up a point, people will debate the hell out of it. Trying to tell people they were bad for debating it was the worse possible move.
Yes. The issue was whether feminism was one thing within the set of topics which could be discussed within A/S or whether Atheism/Skepticism was one thing within the set of entities which exist to promote feminism.
Yup. That was the deep issue. As Jonathan Haidt would put it, Atheism Plus (which originated from the whole brouhaha) was an attempt to change the telos, the overall purpose of the A/S "movement", from something centered atheism, skepticism and secularism into a Critical Theory fan club. It was putting some ideas (privilege, objectification, sexualization, etc.) beyond any rational discussion, since debating those ideas was "an attack on women", "not believing that women are human, too", etc. etc.
Agreed. The first prominent example of putting those ideas beyond the realm of rational dispute (within organized skepticism) sounded like this:
RW wrote:This is, unfortunately, a pretty standard parroting of misogynistic thought...

Because there are people in this audience right now who believe this: that a woman's reasonable expectation to feel safe from sexual objectification and assault at skeptic and atheist events is outweighed by a man's right to sexually objectify her. That's basically what these people have been telling me, and it's not true.

...I've heard from a lot of women who don't attend events like this because of those who have this attitude. They're tired of being objectified, and some of them have actually been raped; quite a number of them have been raped, or otherwise sexually assaulted. And situations like the one I was in, in an elevator, would have triggered a panic attack. They're scared, because they know that you won't stand up for them. And if they stand up for themselves, you are going to laugh them back down. And that's why they're not coming out to these events.
I would have thought it possible to discuss how to ethically hook up at skeptic conferences without accusing one's interlocutor of promoting objectification and hatred of women, but I don't get the sense that the speaker was in this case seeking to pursue debate so much as public shaming.



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Kirbmarc wrote:Also Chomsky is an Utopian. His ideal society is an anarco-socialist one. I think that's why he's so keen on forgiving the flaws of "leftist" regimes.

Personally I believe that any form of anarchism is a chimera: not only any political system can be gamed by ambitious, determined, clever or charismatic people who build their own version of a hierarchy, either formal or (usually worse) informal, human beings simply aren't pro-social enough to make anarchy work. We're tribal creatures.
Don't know if you're a gamer Kirb, but for anyone out there who is, they'll know what I'm talking about when I mention MMORPGs.

There are all sorts of possible multiplayer games that would be a delight to play in, with fantastic features - if everyone was just spontaneously nice and never broke gentlemanly, sportsmanlike rules, if everyone were in it for the roleplay, and for achievement only within the rules of the game.

But those MMOs can never be made, *because developers have to spend half their time plugging up the rules so that nobody can take the piss, so that free riders can't free ride, so that cheaters can't cheat.*

Making up the system for that is actually a cost, quite a big cost, as part of development (and developers who don't pay the price learn their lessons quickly, as honest players quickly desert games that can be gamed).

So it's a bit like that with real life: there are any number of ideal social arrangements that would work if everyone was just spontaneously nice by nature and liked and obeyed the rules. But unfortunately, we have to design political systems that are foolproof, cheater proof and free-rider proof. It's a waste and a cost, and it's the reason we can't have nice things, but there's no (known) alternative other than plugging up those holes.

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Here we go again with "believe the victims!"

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gurugeorge wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote:Also Chomsky is an Utopian. His ideal society is an anarco-socialist one. I think that's why he's so keen on forgiving the flaws of "leftist" regimes.

Personally I believe that any form of anarchism is a chimera: not only any political system can be gamed by ambitious, determined, clever or charismatic people who build their own version of a hierarchy, either formal or (usually worse) informal, human beings simply aren't pro-social enough to make anarchy work. We're tribal creatures.
Don't know if you're a gamer Kirb, but for anyone out there who is, they'll know what I'm talking about when I mention MMORPGs.

There are all sorts of possible multiplayer games that would be a delight to play in, with fantastic features - if everyone was just spontaneously nice and never broke gentlemanly, sportsmanlike rules, if everyone were in it for the roleplay, and for achievement only within the rules of the game.

But those MMOs can never be made, *because developers have to spend half their time plugging up the rules so that nobody can take the piss, so that free riders can't free ride, so that cheaters can't cheat.*

Making up the system for that is actually a cost, quite a big cost, as part of development (and developers who don't pay the price learn their lessons quickly, as honest players quickly desert games that can be gamed).

So it's a bit like that with real life: there are any number of ideal social arrangements that would work if everyone was just spontaneously nice by nature and liked and obeyed the rules. But unfortunately, we have to design political systems that are foolproof, cheater proof and free-rider proof. It's a waste and a cost, and it's the reason we can't have nice things, but there's no (known) alternative other than plugging up those holes.
Just give everyone Scientology training. When the world is Clear we will live together in harmony!

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Old_ones wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote:Also Chomsky is an Utopian. His ideal society is an anarco-socialist one. I think that's why he's so keen on forgiving the flaws of "leftist" regimes.

Personally I believe that any form of anarchism is a chimera: not only any political system can be gamed by ambitious, determined, clever or charismatic people who build their own version of a hierarchy, either formal or (usually worse) informal, human beings simply aren't pro-social enough to make anarchy work. We're tribal creatures.
Yeah, this is the main reason why I dislike him so much. I'm sick and tired of hearing naive utopians drone on about how the western civilization is the great Satan, and if only their ridiculous ideology were in charge everything would be perfect and they would eliminate hunger and violence. Jordan Peterson talks a lot about this, and it's part of the reason I like the guy. His view is that you shouldn't compare western civilization to an unrealized ideal, you should compare it to everything else that has ever existed. The soviet union and maoist china were founded by utopians. How many more societies do these shit heads need to ruin before they'll be willing to recognize the pattern?
I tend to agree. No society is ever, has ever been, or will ever be perfect, and every society has flaws, needs improvements and maintenance. For example IMHO the US right now need (among other things) more limits to the power of lobbies and corporations, tax reforms, healthcare reforms, better legal representation for poor people, immigration reforms, the end of the War on Drugs, a change to the paradigm of militarization of the police and the privatization of prisons. They also need to change the nature of their alliance with GCC countries.

At the same time you need to preserve separation of powers, freedom of speech and other liberal-democratic rights from the assaults from both extreme leftists and extreme right-wing people.

There's plenty of improvements and maintenance to be done, and they're not easy jobs, nor simple ones. However to throw away the liberal-democratic system in the hope of an utopian dream of anarco-communism (or of anarco-capitalism or of a "white ethno-state" for that matter) is absurd.

The US are flawed, just like every other nation, and even the liberal-democratic system can be gamed and has its limits, and some of the changes it needs in the long run (like changes to the electoral laws) would be major. But the liberal-democratic system, flawed as it is, still beats dictatorships (both left-wing or right-wing ones) or theocracies by a long stretch. Anyone who disagrees can enjoy living in North Korea or Saudi Arabia. 8-)

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fuzzy wrote:
Oh, sweet jeebus, that's brilliant. :clap:

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I wonder if there could be a causal effect?

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gurugeorge wrote:Don't know if you're a gamer Kirb, but for anyone out there who is, they'll know what I'm talking about when I mention MMORPGs.

There are all sorts of possible multiplayer games that would be a delight to play in, with fantastic features - if everyone was just spontaneously nice and never broke gentlemanly, sportsmanlike rules, if everyone were in it for the roleplay, and for achievement only within the rules of the game.

But those MMOs can never be made, *because developers have to spend half their time plugging up the rules so that nobody can take the piss, so that free riders can't free ride, so that cheaters can't cheat.*

Making up the system for that is actually a cost, quite a big cost, as part of development (and developers who don't pay the price learn their lessons quickly, as honest players quickly desert games that can be gamed).

So it's a bit like that with real life: there are any number of ideal social arrangements that would work if everyone was just spontaneously nice by nature and liked and obeyed the rules. But unfortunately, we have to design political systems that are foolproof, cheater proof and free-rider proof. It's a waste and a cost, and it's the reason we can't have nice things, but there's no (known) alternative other than plugging up those holes.
Yup. Great analogy! (And yes, I'm a gamer...I credit gaming for my ability to ignore online insults :lol: )

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CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
fuzzy wrote:
Oh, sweet jeebus, that's brilliant. :clap:
Yes. Yes it is.

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Thing of beauty fuzzy. :lol:

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Terrorist act in Belgium: EU demands Belgians blanch their french fries before frying them.

Oh, and an explosion or something at a train station.

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MacGruberKnows wrote:Terrorist act in Belgium: EU demands Belgians blanch their french fries before frying them.

Oh, and an explosion or something at a train station.
Jesus fucking CHRIST! There is a Belgian restaurant in Royal Oak Michigan that has the best fucking fries I ever ate. I didn't realize the Belgians did the double fry action. Wonderful stuff... and they have a good selection of excellent Michigan beers well. It's called Bastone if anyone is in the area.

http://bastone.net/br/bastone-brewery

So maybe.... the EU will fuck up Europe so that you can only eat these wonderful fries in places like the US.

Seriously... the EU is totally fucked.

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Kirbmarc wrote:Also Chomsky is an Utopian. His ideal society is an anarco-socialist one. I think that's why he's so keen on forgiving the flaws of "leftist" regimes.

Personally I believe that any form of anarchism is a chimera: not only any political system can be gamed by ambitious, determined, clever or charismatic people who build their own version of a hierarchy, either formal or (usually worse) informal, human beings simply aren't pro-social enough to make anarchy work. We're tribal creatures.
There's no such thing as an ideal society because there's no such thing as an ideal person.

I'm not talking about people being inherently flawed, I mean that there is a broad spectrum of personality types.

Some people just want to be left alone to get on with their lives or raise their families, others are either dependent upon the state or believe in a strong state to serve to serve those who are dependent upon it. These are t deviations from some 'normal' centrist personality type, they are part of a spectrum.

You will never have a state which will satisfy all personality types.

The problems we are facing is that these personality types are viewed through a moral lense so that those who value independence are selfish or antisocial and those who value a welfare state are thieves and scrounges.

You can't have a society which doesn't provide space for this spectrum to co-exist, and liberal democracies are the best compromise we have come up with.

In the other hand you can't maintain a liberal society broad enough for both wings of it is left to centrists. Compromise isn't about everyone merging in the middle ground, it's about coming up with the best deal for people who hold different value systems.

You need people pulling at the fringes, left and right, libertarian or statist.

Left and right both see themselves as 'normal' and the other as 'deviant'. We need a politics that recognises that personality traits are largely innate and you can't bully other people into adopting yours.

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John D wrote:
MacGruberKnows wrote:Terrorist act in Belgium: EU demands Belgians blanch their french fries before frying them.

Oh, and an explosion or something at a train station.
Jesus fucking CHRIST! There is a Belgian restaurant in Royal Oak Michigan that has the best fucking fries I ever ate. I didn't realize the Belgians did the double fry action. Wonderful stuff... and they have a good selection of excellent Michigan beers well. It's called Bastone if anyone is in the area.

http://bastone.net/br/bastone-brewery

So maybe.... the EU will fuck up Europe so that you can only eat these wonderful fries in places like the US.

Seriously... the EU is totally fucked.
Oh, and did you hear the news this morning? Apparently Mercon and Mackel are discussing creating a eurozone budget, with a single finance minister.

They are fucking delusional.

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John D wrote:
MacGruberKnows wrote:Terrorist act in Belgium: EU demands Belgians blanch their french fries before frying them.

Oh, and an explosion or something at a train station.
Jesus fucking CHRIST! There is a Belgian restaurant in Royal Oak Michigan that has the best fucking fries I ever ate. I didn't realize the Belgians did the double fry action. Wonderful stuff... and they have a good selection of excellent Michigan beers well. It's called Bastone if anyone is in the area.

http://bastone.net/br/bastone-brewery

So maybe.... the EU will fuck up Europe so that you can only eat these wonderful fries in places like the US.

Seriously... the EU is totally fucked.
Excellent, thank you. I live about 10 min from Royal Oak and I'm off this week so I'll stop there for a meal sometime. I wouldn't mind a glass of Duvel and some frites about now.

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I'm going to stick me neck out here and suggest he's a 'New European' :think:

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rayshul wrote:Shit I didn't even know it was an option these days to be a housewife

Cost of living like mothafuckaaaa
It is *amazing* how illiterate people are about cost of living. Just said something about graduate student stipends, and how I did okay on $20k a year in OKC. Stipend is up to $25k today. Plus a PhD. Sweet deal!

Well McWrong is on Twitter, again, bitching, again, about how poor grad students have to live in poverty, with some chick saying "and that's why science has a diversity problem" wat?

Okay, first of all, let me reiterate: You get PAID to get a PhD. You get PAID. On top of having your DEGREE paid for. Thank you, US taxpayers. Thank you.

Second-- Because everything is covered, no one *has* to go to any particular school. Not like college in state being cheaper than out-of-state, so you might be 'stuck' with a handful of colleges, financially. You can go anywhere. If you *want* to go to school in Seattle or San Fran or Boston, that is YOUR decision. The grad student pay scale is what it is. You know on the front end. Dont cry cause you can't afford to live in a city that would require you to get paid $200k a year you stupid fucks. You get $25k. If You don't want to worry about finances in grad school, there is a biiiiiig stretch of land in the center of the U.S. with plenty of schools to choose from.

Third-- What the fuck does that have to do with *diversity*??? Wtf?

DumbDumb McWrong still doesn't get it. Apparently she *is* moving to CA for the new job (seems like a job you could do anywhere). For her to have the same standard of living as a first year post-doc in Atlanta ($50k), 23andme will have to pay her over $150k. Perusing Glassdoor, they arent. Hell, to have the same standard living as a grad student in ATL ($25k), they'll have to pay about $80k. WHY DON'T PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THIS.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:Here we go again with "believe the victims!"

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/accordingt ... nt-things/
He repeats the statistic about "1 in 6" women being raped in their lifetimes without any evidence.

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Probably ancient, but I've only just stumbled across it. Somebody's selling this t-shirt on Redbubble:

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Kirbmarc wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:Here we go again with "believe the victims!"

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/accordingt ... nt-things/
He repeats the statistic about "1 in 6" women being raped in their lifetimes without any evidence.
Correction: the evidence is the RAINN link. However the numbers of the RAINN site seem off, they say that there are 300,000 rapes and sexual assaults per year in the US, while Wikipedia says that there are less than 100,000 including attempted rapes and threats of rape and sexual assault.

There's little documentation for the 1 in 6 claim. Extrapolating from the numbers on Wikipedia 0,1% of women are raped or sexually assaulted every year in the US.

Assuming that every year the victims of those crimes are different then, for an average 84 year life expectancy you get 8,4% of women in the US as victims of rape or sexual assaults in the US during their lifetimes in the worst case scenario, so less than 1 in 10.

Still a lot, and one rape is one too many, but there's something about the RAINN numbers that doesn't add up.

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Orcas are starting to behave like gangsters, shaking down the Alaskan fishing fleet./
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I don't know how students can be poor and pro-sexwork. Suck some dick you lazy fucks.

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Shatterface wrote:I don't know how students can be poor and pro-sexwork. Suck some dick you lazy fucks.
You must not have seen any pics of said poor students. I doubt they could make coffee money.

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Old_ones wrote:
gurugeorge wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote:Also Chomsky is an Utopian. His ideal society is an anarco-socialist one. I think that's why he's so keen on forgiving the flaws of "leftist" regimes.

Personally I believe that any form of anarchism is a chimera: not only any political system can be gamed by ambitious, determined, clever or charismatic people who build their own version of a hierarchy, either formal or (usually worse) informal, human beings simply aren't pro-social enough to make anarchy work. We're tribal creatures.
Don't know if you're a gamer Kirb, but for anyone out there who is, they'll know what I'm talking about when I mention MMORPGs.

There are all sorts of possible multiplayer games that would be a delight to play in, with fantastic features - if everyone was just spontaneously nice and never broke gentlemanly, sportsmanlike rules, if everyone were in it for the roleplay, and for achievement only within the rules of the game.

But those MMOs can never be made, *because developers have to spend half their time plugging up the rules so that nobody can take the piss, so that free riders can't free ride, so that cheaters can't cheat.*

Making up the system for that is actually a cost, quite a big cost, as part of development (and developers who don't pay the price learn their lessons quickly, as honest players quickly desert games that can be gamed).

So it's a bit like that with real life: there are any number of ideal social arrangements that would work if everyone was just spontaneously nice by nature and liked and obeyed the rules. But unfortunately, we have to design political systems that are foolproof, cheater proof and free-rider proof. It's a waste and a cost, and it's the reason we can't have nice things, but there's no (known) alternative other than plugging up those holes.
Just give everyone Scientology training. When the world is Clear we will live together in harmony!
Give? GIVE? I think you missed the whole purpose of Scientology right there.

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MarcusAu wrote:I heard that there were too many bloody Kiwi's there.
Bloody oath. Too many dole bludging, crime committing, woman stealing, kiwis.

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At the risk of being pit flogged I think she looks quite cute in that video, I would have bought her a coffee :?
I never noticed before, but check out how she says the word "coffee" (5 minutes mark). She pronounces - nay! enunciates! - it just like a posh English man would do.

Was this a coded, or subconscious, reveal of EG's true identity?

:think: :think: :think: :think: :think: :think: :think:

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Shatterface wrote:I don't know how students can be poor and pro-sexwork. Suck some dick you lazy fucks.
I'm a pro at poor sex-work.

(PM'd photographic proof)

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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
shoutinghorse wrote:
d4m10n wrote:Six years ago today: http://skepchick.org/2011/06/about-myth ... and-jokes/


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At the risk of being pit flogged I think she looks quite cute in that video, I would have bought her a coffee :?
I never noticed before, but check out how she says the word "coffee" (5 minutes mark). She pronounces - nay! enunciates! - it just like a posh English man would do.

Was this a coded, or subconscious, reveal of EG's true identity?

:think: :think: :think: :think: :think: :think: :think:
It's either bad Rorschach impression or a Boston artefact. I'll go with the former.

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free thoughtpolice wrote:Orcas are starting to behave like gangsters, shaking down the Alaskan fishing fleet./
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/world/ ... picks=true
I remember a news item 20 or 30 years ago about how a pod of orcas in Alaska had learned to go along a halibut line and pick off the free food. Hadn't heard anything about it since. I mentioned it to fishermen and they'd never heard of it. On a related note, my neighbor some years ago mentioned how seals had wrecked his fishing trip. They had learned to go where all the sportfishing boats tend to congregate and just wait for a fish to get hooked and then go over and snag it.

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fuzzy wrote:[im.g][/img]

Thank you.

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Haha. :lol:

Sponge worthy to use-up a life with Surly as well.

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fuzzy wrote:
:lol: :lol: :clap: :clap:

She'll never live that down. She's probably gotten more grief about the cockeyed rhino than for bawling over a t-shirt.

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Brive1987 wrote:Haha. :lol:

Sponge worthy to use-up a life with Surly as well.
Pleasepleaseplease tweet about Scurvy Amy's unauthorized use of PacMan!!!

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Or, you know, the original Rhino picture she stole...

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Fucking Twitter. I've never had an account, never wanted one. As of today, I've got to sign up to see a "with replies" dump of anyone's tweets.

For months now, they've limited what I could see to 20 or so recent tweets, by lying to me with that "the server is taking too long" message. Now it looks like they're starting to end anonymous browsing entirely. Whatta drag.

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Ape+lust wrote:
fuzzy wrote:
:lol: :lol: :clap: :clap:

She'll never live that down. She's probably gotten more grief about the cockeyed rhino than for bawling over a t-shirt.
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Colossal pussy Dan Arel is not happy that his beloved terrorist organization is being harmed by a parody account.
Isn't the point that Antifa has no central hierarchy? You know, like terrorist cells?

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shoutinghorse wrote:I'm going to stick me neck
Oh, just let a shinehead antifa bitch handle that for ya, hoss!

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MacGruberKnows wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:Orcas are starting to behave like gangsters, shaking down the Alaskan fishing fleet./
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/world/ ... picks=true
I remember a news item 20 or 30 years ago about how a pod of orcas in Alaska had learned to go along a halibut line and pick off the free food. Hadn't heard anything about it since. I mentioned it to fishermen and they'd never heard of it. On a related note, my neighbor some years ago mentioned how seals had wrecked his fishing trip. They had learned to go where all the sportfishing boats tend to congregate and just wait for a fish to get hooked and then go over and snag it.
The seals have been a real nuisance for sportsfishers by following boats and stealing hooked fish for decades around here and in some cases have basically had people giving up fishing because they were stealing or mangling 80% or more of hooked fish.
Even in beachfishing, wading form shore they are a nuisance. I've had a seal run into my line and hooking itself when I was flyfishing in about 3 feet of water, and been chased into shore by aggressive sea lions.
They're vermin I tell ya. Vive Canadian Club :burn: :burn:

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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
Ape+lust wrote:
fuzzy wrote:
:lol: :lol: :clap: :clap:

She'll never live that down. She's probably gotten more grief about the cockeyed rhino than for bawling over a t-shirt.
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This is a baby rhino. I'm sure Surly Blamey cleared the rights with the photographer.
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Kirbmarc wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:Here we go again with "believe the victims!"

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/accordingt ... nt-things/
He repeats the statistic about "1 in 6" women being raped in their lifetimes without any evidence.
Correction: the evidence is the RAINN link. However the numbers of the RAINN site seem off, they say that there are 300,000 rapes and sexual assaults per year in the US, while Wikipedia says that there are less than 100,000 including attempted rapes and threats of rape and sexual assault.

There's little documentation for the 1 in 6 claim. Extrapolating from the numbers on Wikipedia 0,1% of women are raped or sexually assaulted every year in the US.

Assuming that every year the victims of those crimes are different then, for an average 84 year life expectancy you get 8,4% of women in the US as victims of rape or sexual assaults in the US during their lifetimes in the worst case scenario, so less than 1 in 10.

Still a lot, and one rape is one too many, but there's something about the RAINN numbers that doesn't add up.
RAINN also got massive shit in 2013 ? for issuing a report that dismissed the 1-in-4 campus rape meme, for noting that 3% of men are responsible for 97% of assaults, and for tarting the 'teach men not to rape' campaigns and instead called for a 'teach freshmen not to get blotto drunk during the first two weeks of school' campaign.

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Trav Man-Mammaries is getting all bitchy at me, telling me to shut up and exposing me as a homophobic, anti-semite slymepitter. (I mean, duh, aren't we all?)

Question for Franc: Trav identifies as a 'they', so if I kick him in his atrophied nuts, am I also kicking him in the cunt?

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Really? wrote:Colossal pussy Dan Arel is not happy that his beloved terrorist organization is being harmed by a parody account.
Isn't the point that Antifa has no central hierarchy? You know, like terrorist cells?
It's tragic that so much of this rage stems back to the fact that comrade Dan agreed that he and the missus should go poly, but whereas she ended up pulling weekly trains, all he ever got was a hummer from Dave Muskrat.

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shoutinghorse wrote:I wonder if there could be a causal effect?
Isn't any rise of 'Islamophobia' in response to terror attacks, what the left usually called "blowback"?

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John D wrote:
MacGruberKnows wrote:Terrorist act in Belgium: EU demands Belgians blanch their french fries before frying them.

Oh, and an explosion or something at a train station.
Jesus fucking CHRIST! There is a Belgian restaurant in Royal Oak Michigan that has the best fucking fries I ever ate. I didn't realize the Belgians did the double fry action. Wonderful stuff... and they have a good selection of excellent Michigan beers well. It's called Bastone if anyone is in the area.

http://bastone.net/br/bastone-brewery

So maybe.... the EU will fuck up Europe so that you can only eat these wonderful fries in places like the US.

Seriously... the EU is totally fucked.
This is rich: Some moron from Trumpistan who falls for fake news points his finger at the EU, one of the last places on the planet where complete idiots have not yet taken over. Look at your own country to see one that is totally fucked. Hard to say which is the greater laughingstock these days: the USA or the UK, where brexiteers do their utmost to turn their country to shit. How disappointing to see so many 'skeptics' at the Pit braying with the anti-intellectuals on both sides of the Atlantic.

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Jan Steen wrote:
John D wrote:
MacGruberKnows wrote:Terrorist act in Belgium: EU demands Belgians blanch their french fries before frying them.

Oh, and an explosion or something at a train station.
Jesus fucking CHRIST! There is a Belgian restaurant in Royal Oak Michigan that has the best fucking fries I ever ate. I didn't realize the Belgians did the double fry action. Wonderful stuff... and they have a good selection of excellent Michigan beers well. It's called Bastone if anyone is in the area.

http://bastone.net/br/bastone-brewery

So maybe.... the EU will fuck up Europe so that you can only eat these wonderful fries in places like the US.

Seriously... the EU is totally fucked.
This is rich: Some moron from Trumpistan who falls for fake news points his finger at the EU, one of the last places on the planet where complete idiots have not yet taken over. Look at your own country to see one that is totally fucked. Hard to say which is the greater laughingstock these days: the USA or the UK, where brexiteers do their utmost to turn their country to shit. How disappointing to see so many 'skeptics' at the Pit braying with the anti-intellectuals on both sides of the Atlantic.
Baw haw haw.... geee willikers... you got me bitch... I am also a racist and a sexist shitlord. Too bad I'm worth over a million dollars.

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What's this? Am I rite in thinking Laci is referring to the SJWs?

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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John D wrote:
Jan Steen wrote:
John D wrote:(quote=MacGruberKnows"]Terrorist act in Belgium: EU demands Belgians blanch their french fries before frying them.

Oh, and an explosion or something at a train station.(quote]
Jesus fucking CHRIST! There is a Belgian restaurant in Royal Oak Michigan that has the best fucking fries I ever ate. I didn't realize the Belgians did the double fry action. Wonderful stuff... and they have a good selection of excellent Michigan beers well. It's called Bastone if anyone is in the area.

http://bastone.net/br/bastone-brewery

So maybe.... the EU will fuck up Europe so that you can only eat these wonderful fries in places like the US.

Seriously... the EU is totally fucked.
This is rich: Some moron from Trumpistan who falls for fake news points his finger at the EU, one of the last places on the planet where complete idiots have not yet taken over. Look at your own country to see one that is totally fucked. Hard to say which is the greater laughingstock these days: the USA or the UK, where brexiteers do their utmost to turn their country to shit. How disappointing to see so many 'skeptics' at the Pit braying with the anti-intellectuals on both sides of the Atlantic.
Baw haw haw.... geee willikers... you got me bitch... I am also a racist and a sexist shitlord. Too bad I'm worth over a million dollars.
And? Trump has far more money than you, and seems to be even more blinkered. Some of your fellow Americans may be impressed with your 'worth'. Here in Europe we consider such statements in poor taste, and they diminish rather than increase our respect for the person concerned.

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John D wrote: Baw haw haw.... geee willikers... you got me bitch... I am also a racist and a sexist shitlord. Too bad I'm worth over a million dollars.
:lol: :lol:

Saddest boast I've heard in a while. Check the year on your calendar, Croesus!

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:Trav Man-Mammaries is getting all bitchy at me, telling me to shut up and exposing me as a homophobic, anti-semite slymepitter. (I mean, duh, aren't we all?)

Question for Franc: Trav identifies as a 'they', so if I kick him in his atrophied nuts, am I also kicking him in the cunt?
IMHO if you kick him, you're kicking a cunt.

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CommanderTuvok wrote: What's this? Am I rite in thinking Laci is referring to the SJWs?

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Yes yes you're right. Haven't you other previous posts done about her in the last couple weeks?

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*Haven't you seen

Dropped a word.

In case you're not aware about the recent evolution of Laci green:

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TLDR: she made 2 videos where she expressed her not so good feeling for the sjw orthodoxy, kinda like a coming out but a soft one, at least according to what she says in the videos. Also, we soon learned she started dating Chris Ray Gun, a shitlord youtuber best known for his "Ain't no rest for the triggered" parody video. Since then, lots of her Tweets make it clear that its not really a "soft" coming out. She's getting more confident in expressing her true opinions and feelings.

TLDR TLDR: she had a "im too old for this shit" moment.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:Here we go again with "believe the victims!"

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/accordingt ... nt-things/
OK, which one of you reprobates is racismisbaddude ?
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Thank you for reminding us of that terrible incident. I can't believe so many years have gone by and none of the skeptic community men who have been accused of sexual assault and/or harassment have suffered any consequence. It's like no one even cares about the women who accused Shermer or PZ Myers or Richard Carrier or Jason Thibeault.
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Learning about the accusations against PZ and Jason was triggering because they never allowed their victims to have a voice. PZ's account of what happened keeps changing, too. The only thing that remains constant is that his accuser never got the police investigation she deserved. (That's how privilege works.)
These are "he said/he said that she saids" and it's why Skepticon is the only con where I feel safe.
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I agree that the rape kits should be tested, but I worry because such a high percentage of the tests gaslight the victim by "proving" that the man behind bars couldn't have been the rapist.
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