What I find interesting is that the Black Bloc appear to be allowed to do their thing in North America for so long seemingly without being quashed.Spike13 wrote:Jan Steen wrote:Resorting to violence is absolutely the most stupid thing that Trump's opponents can do right now. And of course, like clockwork, doing the most stupid thing is exactly what they will do. I am convinced that, at heart, people like Dan Arel, Myers, etc. are totalitarians, who would be fine with re-education camps where people who excercise their Freeze Peach in the wrong way will be beaten up and locked away. And Zvan would make a great Sadistic Camp Commander, whip in hand. :lol:Aneris wrote:
At the moment, there is a bit of a twitter fight between Dan Arel of Patheos, and Stephen "Godless Spellchecker" Knight & Peter Boghossian over the on-camera punch against Alt Right's Richard Spencer. Dan Arel in good CTRL Left fashion found it good that he got punched, the others disagreed.
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What's appalling about this case to me is not so much condoning the punch, but that Dan Arel is one of the “Yes, Freeze Peach, but there will be consequences” people, like Stephonknee Zvan, Steve Shives etcetera and here we have a concrete case that “consequence” can mean violence against the speaker. That dispels all illusion he means counterspeech or a shot through reputation. His “freeze peach but beware of consequences” is more like the friendly reminder of the two men in swanky suits that it would be terrible would something unfortunate happen to your fine etablishment.
It looked to me like a lot of the violence was instigated by people who dressed and acted like Anarchists.
They aren't pro Trump, but certainly not Hillary supporters. They just like to stir up shit at protests.
During the G20 protests in Toronto a few years ago. I really started to get a sense that the Police were allowing the Black Bloc to operate in some areas unhindered while other areas were off limits.
I have not thought too much about them honestly, but right now I suspect there is more to them than would appear on the surface. Almost as if they are useful to someone with a certain amount of influence.
Like what happened with Ernst Zündel
[redacted ... no doxing rule]On May 8, 1995, his Toronto residence was the target of an arson attack resulting in $400,000 in damage.[15] A group calling itself the "Jewish Armed Resistance Movement" claimed responsibility for the arson attack; according to the Toronto Sun, the group had ties to extremist organisations including the Jewish Defense League and Kahane Chai.[15] The leader of the Toronto wing of the Jewish Defense League, Meir Weinstein (known then as Meir Halevi), denied involvement in the attack; however, five days later, Weinstein and American JDL leader Irv Rubin were caught trying to break into the Zündel property, where they were apprehended by police.[15] No charges were ever filed in the incident.[16] Weeks after the fire, Zündel was targeted with a parcel bomb that was detonated by the Toronto Police bomb squad.[17] The investigation into the parcel bomb attack led to charges being laid against David Barbarash, an animal rights activist based in British Columbia, but they were eventually stayed.[18]
Anyway, these guys might have stayed out of jail, but as you can see did suffer some social/business ostracisation and possibly without being aware of the extent of it.
It is not so much who you know sometimes, but who knows you.