Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

[Really?]

Must say I did find Zvan's auto trolling at the hands of MotherJones pretty damn funny. Fancy having your re-tweets auto reprogrammed into the plain english bigotry that was the actual subtext. :?

http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... arassment/

I have no idea what the fuck she's talking about. Terrible fucking writing.

But I love that she spent so many words bragging about her bigotry toward all men.

[John D]

This will go with the discussion we have had about workouts. My christian friend recommended this to me.
[youtube]1q31CCDVdas[/youtube]

[Apples]

Heh - ever since I saw this video -

[youtube]U_9J2oJjjd4[/youtube]

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[jimthepleb]

For those of you with knowledge about things bovine:

Do you ever come across cows who identify as bulls, or vice versa?

If there seemed to be some reason to do so, would you stick your arm up a bull's rectum? As you imagine such an eventuality, do you think it would go over just about as well on a bull as it typically does, in your experience, with a cow? Why or why not?

Thanks! Love your show. I'll take my answer off the air.

Most cows perform bull=like behaviour such as mounting other cows, (or standing to be mounted) during oestrus. They can also stay in the state if they get a cyst on one of their ovaries. Like many mammals they have an enormous appetite for sniffing each others genitalia.

If there seemed to be reason to do so I can imagine doing any necessary procedure on a bull if I had the right number of bodies and good handling equipment, or at a stretch a good rope. Bulls are usually less docile than cows for a large number of reasons. Not least being that there is far less reason to need to handle them at all for most of their lives.

I am not sure what the evolutionary psychology of bovines is, but I suspect your google-fu would defeat mine in any field. I've seen you at work.

Oh and finally I wouldn't mind betting that some bulls would have a damn good go at breaking your arm off with you shoulder deep in them.
https://i.imgur.com/mYHqxzt.jpg

[Guestus Aurelius]

Must say I did find Zvan's auto trolling at the hands of MotherJones pretty damn funny. Fancy having your re-tweets auto reprogrammed into the plain english bigotry that was the actual subtext. :?

http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... arassment/

She has a funny definition of "abusive."

[Tapir]

Check your palms as they will presently encounter your face.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hayley-kr ... 45974.html

http://i.imgur.com/Ve3Xe26.jpg

[Tribble]

Most cows perform bull=like behaviour such as mounting other cows, (or standing to be mounted) during oestrus. They can also stay in the state if they get a cyst on one of their ovaries. Like many mammals they have an enormous appetite for sniffing each others genitalia.

If there seemed to be reason to do so I can imagine doing any necessary procedure on a bull if I had the right number of bodies and good handling equipment, or at a stretch a good rope. Bulls are usually less docile than cows for a large number of reasons. Not least being that there is far less reason to need to handle them at all for most of their lives.

I am not sure what the evolutionary psychology of bovines is, but I suspect your google-fu would defeat mine in any field. I've seen you at work.

Oh and finally I wouldn't mind betting that some bulls would have a damn good go at breaking your arm off with you shoulder deep in them.
https://i.imgur.com/mYHqxzt.jpg

Ah, one of the 'double muscle' cattle. I've seen pictures of them but have never seen one IRL.

[Hunt]

Check your palms as they will presently encounter your face.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hayley-kr ... 45974.html

http://i.imgur.com/Ve3Xe26.jpg

Also, the Tin Man raped Dorothy. Oh FFS, do I have to explain everything!? He's made of tin!!!

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

Heh - ever since I saw this video -

[youtube]U_9J2oJjjd4[/youtube]

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Because I hate women.

If you're already hard and squint a little, that slight view of what might be one of her butt cheek/labia junctions is enough to get you off. Or so your momma told me.

[Skep tickle]

Most cows perform bull=like behaviour such as mounting other cows, (or standing to be mounted) during oestrus. They can also stay in the state if they get a cyst on one of their ovaries. Like many mammals they have an enormous appetite for sniffing each others genitalia.

If there seemed to be reason to do so I can imagine doing any necessary procedure on a bull if I had the right number of bodies and good handling equipment, or at a stretch a good rope. Bulls are usually less docile than cows for a large number of reasons. Not least being that there is far less reason to need to handle them at all for most of their lives.

I am not sure what the evolutionary psychology of bovines is, but I suspect your google-fu would defeat mine in any field. I've seen you at work.

Oh and finally I wouldn't mind betting that some bulls would have a damn good go at breaking your arm off with you shoulder deep in them.
https://i.imgur.com/mYHqxzt.jpg

Ah, one of the 'double muscle' cattle. I've seen pictures of them but have never seen one IRL.

Magnificent beast, even with the oh-so-trendy nose piercing.

Good point about bulls being handled less, so less accustomed to it.

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

*snip*

Oh and finally I wouldn't mind betting that some bulls would have a damn good go at breaking your arm off with you shoulder deep in them.
https://i.imgur.com/mYHqxzt.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/IuCsLs9.png

[Service Dog]

For those of you with knowledge about things bovine:

Do you ever come across cows who identify as bulls, or vice versa?

[youtube]CGTVRbpAuRo[/youtube]

[welch]

Check your palms as they will presently encounter your face.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hayley-kr ... 45974.html

http://i.imgur.com/Ve3Xe26.jpg

I just broke my own nose.

[Service Dog]

Check your palms as they will presently encounter your face.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hayley-kr ... 45974.html

http://i.imgur.com/Ve3Xe26.jpg

Also, the Tin Man raped Dorothy. Oh FFS, do I have to explain everything!? He's made of tin!!!

If I were a feminist,
I'd steer clear of this type of cultural critique...
after the eminent Feminist Expert on domestic violence, Alyce LaViolette, imploded on the witness stand,
during testimony as a defense witness in the Jodi Arias trial.

LaViolette claims that Snow White Was A Battered Woman, and Snow White's father, the King, exemplified patriarchy theory...

[youtube]LMczu3hHPxI[/youtube]

[HoneyWagon]

Must say I did find Zvan's auto trolling at the hands of MotherJones pretty damn funny. Fancy having your re-tweets auto reprogrammed into the plain english bigotry that was the actual subtext. :?

http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... arassment/

I went to their (mother Jones) FB page and went to the link for the story...saw nothing mentioning Svan or FTB.
Did they scrub it or am I missing something?

[Walter Ego]

I love Monty Python and all, and have every season in my DVD collection, but The Meaning of Life is one of the worst, unfunniest pieces of trash ever committed to film. Not trolling, and I can't understand how others think it's anything but (especially considering the rave critic reviews.) It's one of those movies that I would wish I could forget, but if I did, I'd run the risk of picking it up and watching it again from the title alone.

I liked it. Every sperm is sacred. Masturbation is mass murder.

[youtube]fUspLVStPbk[/youtube]

[Sunder]

Must say I did find Zvan's auto trolling at the hands of MotherJones pretty damn funny. Fancy having your re-tweets auto reprogrammed into the plain english bigotry that was the actual subtext. :?

http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... arassment/

I went to their (mother Jones) FB page and went to the link for the story...saw nothing mentioning Svan or FTB.
Did they scrub it or am I missing something?

Apparently it's like this:

Mother Jones runs a story with a normal headline.

They have a Twitter button but the Tweet has a different, more objectionable headline.

Zvan hits the Twitter button and is appalled with what her tweet says, and blames Mother Jones.

[free thoughtpolice]

From "the Maleficent Rape Scene":

This is the horrific side of rape culture. We're so enmeshed in it that it's impossible to ignore that a metaphorical rape occurs in a Disney movie.

I have a theory that taking Gender Studies can cause severe brain damage.

[Opyt]

From "the Maleficent Rape Scene":

This is the horrific side of rape culture. We're so enmeshed in it that it's impossible to ignore that a metaphorical rape occurs in a Disney movie.

I have a theory that taking Gender Studies can cause severe brain damage.

I doubt that. I think it's taking Gender Studies as "the gospel truth" that could be caused by brain damage though.
The good news is: this form of brain damage isn't caused by gendered violence, as evidenced by men and women both being tied to it.

:lol:

[Liesmith]

Check your palms as they will presently encounter your face.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hayley-kr ... 45974.html

http://i.imgur.com/Ve3Xe26.jpg

I can certainly see the argument that that scene could be an allegory of rape: the antagonist slips Malificent a roofie, and chops her wings off in her sleep. When she wakes up, it's a very "bathtub full of ice" kind of scene. But I don't see how that has fuck-all to do with rape culture or patriarchy...the antagonist is clearly the bad guy. He's a greedy, manipulative asshole pretty much from the start, and is never really characterized with any redeeming qualities, aside for the brief scene where he begs for Malificent to have mercy on Snow White and why am dI still thinking about this oh gawd the patriarchy has infected my braaaaaaaaaaaaaain

Also, why does the author of that "article" describe a baby as evil?

[Sunder]

Cosmos has officially concluded.

[Richard Dworkins]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hayley-kr ... 45974.html

The arrogance is stunning. "We" need to talk about. They always claim that they want a conversation and then go and prate some inane nonsense as if it's objective truth. So what's the rest of we meant to do, nod and agree? After all if you disagree your going to be accused of being a mysogynist rape apologist.

You can't say "jesus christ you dumb cow get back on your meds before you're sectioned." since that''s messiah shaming, mute shaming, bovine shaming, mentally ill shaming and misogyny. So how can "we" have a talk? At least with "shut up an listen" you knew they were demanding they had objective truth.

I always thought that rape had something to do with non-consensual sex, not imaginary villians clipping the wings off of other imaginary villians.

Did Frodo finger-rape the One Ring too? (And I don't mean Sam's anus.)

I think Rape is a trigger word after all, it triggers idiots into writing utter shite.

[acathode]

TBH, what kinda comes to mind when I read about gender studies department at Universities is this. Call it Godwin if you will, but they both share(d) the same methodology - they started with the answer they wanted, and then they worked backwards and tailored their experiments and interpreting the results so that their desired ideological answer could be proved "scientifically".

Sure, you could say that creationists and others pseudoscience people do the same - but the key difference IMO is that no creationists or "pseudoscientists" have gotten their own departments at real, respected universities. Which is part of why I consider the SJWs far more dangerous to society than creationists...

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Must say I did find Zvan's auto trolling at the hands of MotherJones pretty damn funny. Fancy having your re-tweets auto reprogrammed into the plain english bigotry that was the actual subtext. :?

http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... arassment/

WTF is she even saying? Stephanie Svan is one of those rare humans who'd fail a Turing test.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

I have a theory that taking Gender Studies can cause severe brain damage.

It's the other way around.

[AndrewV69]

Must say I did find Zvan's auto trolling at the hands of MotherJones pretty damn funny. Fancy having your re-tweets auto reprogrammed into the plain english bigotry that was the actual subtext. :?

http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... arassment/

WTF is she even saying? Stephanie Svan is one of those rare humans who'd fail a Turing test.

Speaking of Turing test. Gizmodo says that A Computer Has Passed the Turing Test For the First Time

This is big. A computer has successfully managed to fool a bunch of researchers into thinking that it was a 13-year-old boy named Eugene Goostman. In doing so, it has become the first computer in the world to have successfully passed the Turing Test.

[HoneyWagon]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hayley-kr ... 45974.html

The arrogance is stunning. "We" need to talk about. They always claim that they want a conversation and then go and prate some inane nonsense as if it's objective truth. So what's the rest of we meant to do, nod and agree? After all if you disagree your going to be accused of being a mysogynist rape apologist.

You can't say "jesus christ you dumb cow get back on your meds before you're sectioned." since that''s messiah shaming, mute shaming, bovine shaming, mentally ill shaming and misogyny. So how can "we" have a talk? At least with "shut up an listen" you knew they were demanding they had objective truth.

I always thought that rape had something to do with non-consensual sex, not imaginary villians clipping the wings off of other imaginary villians.

Did Frodo finger-rape the One Ring too? (And I don't mean Sam's anus.)

I think Rape is a trigger word after all, it triggers idiots into writing utter shite.

I recent example I saw of a person claiming "rape culture"
https://twitter.com/VanguardVivian/stat ... 9644936192
http://www.clipular.com/c/5475964981084 ... lG4lZd8jlg

[Whig]

Another example of the classic tactics.


http://mattbruenig.com/2014/06/08/oppor ... -misreads/

[Matt Cavanaugh]

I recent example I saw of a person claiming "rape culture"
https://twitter.com/VanguardVivian/stat ... 9644936192
http://www.clipular.com/c/5475964981084 ... lG4lZd8jlg

Darling Miri claimed that one, too. These people are damaged.

[Grwd]

Check your palms as they will presently encounter your face.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hayley-kr ... 45974.html

http://i.imgur.com/Ve3Xe26.jpg

I can certainly see the argument that that scene could be an allegory of rape: the antagonist slips Malificent a roofie, and chops her wings off in her sleep. When she wakes up, it's a very "bathtub full of ice" kind of scene. But I don't see how that has fuck-all to do with rape culture or patriarchy...the antagonist is clearly the bad guy. He's a greedy, manipulative asshole pretty much from the start, and is never really characterized with any redeeming qualities, aside for the brief scene where he begs for Malificent to have mercy on Snow White and why am dI still thinking about this oh gawd the patriarchy has infected my braaaaaaaaaaaaaain

Also, why does the author of that "article" describe a baby as evil?

This is insane. First Frozen now this? Are they trying to eliminate ALL female bad guys in within the Disney universe? Frozen is supposedly based on a Danish fairy tale where yes that ice witch was a bad guy. They rewrote it so some random ass merchant prince was the bad-guy. Here Malificent is still evil....but only because an even more evil man """"raped"""" her. Can't wait for their rewrite of "Bluebeard" were we find out all his wives were total cunts.

[Grwd]

I'm so bad a proof reading. I actually read my previous post 3 times before I posted it. It's still littered with mistakes. I really wish the edit button wasn't some sort of cruel joke.

[Opyt]

Grwd:
Isn't that part of the fun of posting in threads with large page counts?

Matt:
You're being too kind. They don't need help. They need nuthouses for some of those people. Next they'll be saying that making kids laugh makes you a pedophile. Although they're already calling tickling a form of "rape" at this point, as "etc" can cover a lot of things. I wonder how much of their logic, for want of a better term, really is centered around "daddy issues".

[Easy J]

Reminds me of this old Mad TV skit, but all about rape:

[Easy J]

Reminds me of this old Mad TV skit, but all about rape:

[Easy J]

Damn, self-ninja'd?

[Tony Parsehole]

Check your palms as they will presently encounter your face.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hayley-kr ... 45974.html

http://i.imgur.com/Ve3Xe26.jpg

I just broke my own nose.

I rememember when rape meant unconsensual sex. Now it means cutting the wings off a fairy.

[Tony Parsehole]

Must say I did find Zvan's auto trolling at the hands of MotherJones pretty damn funny. Fancy having your re-tweets auto reprogrammed into the plain english bigotry that was the actual subtext. :?

http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... arassment/

WTF is she even saying? Stephanie Svan is one of those rare humans who'd fail a Turing test.

I read the whole thing twice and I still don't have a fucking clue what her gripe is.

[Grwd]

I love how Zvan found two wrongs with the title "It's official: Men are pigs". 1) It implies that men harassing womyn is genetic and thus excuses male behavior. 2) It sets HER up for harassment. Wont SOMEBODY think of the Zvan!?

Might I suggest a third option? It's RIDICULOUSLY sexist.

[Clarence]

I recent example I saw of a person claiming "rape culture"
https://twitter.com/VanguardVivian/stat ... 9644936192
http://www.clipular.com/c/5475964981084 ... lG4lZd8jlg

Darling Miri claimed that one, too. These people are damaged.

There's an actual argument for it.
Basically, it's about allowing children to learn to set boundaries as to who may touch them and how and who they want to touch and how.
And that,per-se is not a bad thing. Indeed, despite all our hysteria about 'child molestation' and such, I've always liked the 'good touch', 'bad touch' training that many, possibly most kids are given these days. Totally and for arbitrary reasons violating someone's boundaries MAY be argued to normalize a 'rape culture' (in small caps instead in large like THE RAPE CULTURE which implies every aspect of culture encourages rape) in that if you don't learn to set boundaries you are more likely to be raped or otherwise abused.
However the proponents of this 'teach children bodily autonomy and boundaries meme' take it too far in two ways:
A. One, they forget that adults have the ability and the legal power and indeed, the necessity of SOMETIMES and for a good reason violating children's boundaries when doing such is for their own good.
B. The SJW's sexualize EVERYTHING. Just like "Abuse" is now defined as isolated instances of yelling or punching walls or pillows in lieu of people, singular shoves or grabs (real minor stuff) instead of , you know, choking , or hitting, or deliberately and repeatedly belittling them, a HUG is totally sexualized by the SJW brigade and the peck on the chin that little Johnny is forced (for social reasons) to give Dear Old Aunt Maude is compared to full-throated french kiss.

This is one reason why governments have so much power these days. This over-defining of rights and abuse involves meddling and takes the personal is political to a new level.

[HoneyWagon]

I recent example I saw of a person claiming "rape culture"
https://twitter.com/VanguardVivian/stat ... 9644936192
http://www.clipular.com/c/5475964981084 ... lG4lZd8jlg

Darling Miri claimed that one, too. These people are damaged.

There's an actual argument for it.
Basically, it's about allowing children to learn to set boundaries as to who may touch them and how and who they want to touch and how.
And that,per-se is not a bad thing. Indeed, despite all our hysteria about 'child molestation' and such, I've always liked the 'good touch', 'bad touch' training that many, possibly most kids are given these days. Totally and for arbitrary reasons violating someone's boundaries MAY be argued to normalize a 'rape culture' (in small caps instead in large like THE RAPE CULTURE which implies every aspect of culture encourages rape) in that if you don't learn to set boundaries you are more likely to be raped or otherwise abused.
However the proponents of this 'teach children bodily autonomy and boundaries meme' take it too far in two ways:
A. One, they forget that adults have the ability and the legal power and indeed, the necessity of SOMETIMES and for a good reason violating children's boundaries when doing such is for their own good.
B. The SJW's sexualize EVERYTHING. Just like "Abuse" is now defined as isolated instances of yelling or punching walls or pillows in lieu of people, singular shoves or grabs (real minor stuff) instead of , you know, choking , or hitting, or deliberately and repeatedly belittling them, a HUG is totally sexualized by the SJW brigade and the peck on the chin that little Johnny is forced (for social reasons) to give Dear Old Aunt Maude is compared to full-throated french kiss.

This is one reason why governments have so much power these days. This over-defining of rights and abuse involves meddling and takes the personal is political to a new level.

Oh, the part I disagree with is the automatic connection with this and rape culture.
For some people with hammers, everything becomes a nail.

[didymos]

For some people with hammers, everything becomes a nail.

Ahem. I think you mean "screwdrivers".

[rayshul]

I remember the time when the sun totally raped the fuck out of Icarus.

That was some fucking rape culture right there.

[rayshul]

You know what, every woman I've met who makes six digits is not a SJW.

In fact apart from a few outliers (and I can think only of two) I could probably split my friends between SJW and Normal Human along salary lines.

[rayshul]

Rape guide. :(

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Rape guide. :(

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Well played!

[James Caruthers]

You know what, every woman I've met who makes six digits is not a SJW.

In fact apart from a few outliers (and I can think only of two) I could probably split my friends between SJW and Normal Human along salary lines.

Utterly surprising nobody who has ever known both truly strong women and social justice victim feminists.

But it's a point worth repeating.

[Apples]

I'm so bad a proof reading. I actually read my previous post 3 times before I posted it. It's still littered with mistakes. I really wish the edit button wasn't some sort of cruel joke.

The Fascist Tit raped you of your ability to edit your posts.

[Apples]

I recent example I saw of a person claiming "rape culture"
https://twitter.com/VanguardVivian/stat ... 9644936192
http://www.clipular.com/c/5475964981084 ... lG4lZd8jlg

Darling Miri claimed that one, too. These people are damaged.

I believe Sally Strange confessed that she had sexually assaulted her younger brother when they were kids by giving him a smooch. That's two - TWO child predators who are regulars on Pharyngula.
:character-count:

[Apples]

Heh - ever since I saw this video -

[youtube]U_9J2oJjjd4[/youtube]

- I've received thechive.com's weekly newsletter.

Because I hate women.

If you're already hard and squint a little, that slight view of what might be one of her butt cheek/labia junctions is enough to get you off. Or so your momma told me.

The tendency to notice these things is totes socially constructed.

[jimthepleb]

I was driving to town the other day kids in the car and all. Chatting to the missus about how much more dangerous these little country roads are in the summer days with the glorious oil seed flowering on either side. A toyota pickup shoots round the corner and hits the outside bank careering into the side of us raping my mirror the side of the car and the back bumper.

By God I think I've got it!

[Kirbmarc]

Check your palms as they will presently encounter your face.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hayley-kr ... 45974.html

http://i.imgur.com/Ve3Xe26.jpg

Dexter has the right answer here.

[James Caruthers]

I was driving to town the other day kids in the car and all. Chatting to the missus about how much more dangerous these little country roads are in the summer days with the glorious oil seed flowering on either side. A toyota pickup shoots round the corner and hits the outside bank careering into the side of us raping my mirror the side of the car and the back bumper.

By God I think I've got it!

Mmm, I know what you mean. A friend and I were driving up into the mountains, which of course is ringed with thick forests and usually doesn't get cell service. About 20 miles away from town, and two miles up the winding mountain trail, his car transmission fluid decided to rape us by exiting the car via the conveniently located leak. The car then raped us further by failing to engage the drive, forcing my friend and I to walk a few miles to bum a phone off of someone who had a signal, since both our phones had no service. After this shocking double rape, we walked a mile or so up the road (more rape) and sat by the side of the highway for about 3 hours to wait for a pickup.

We were never in any real danger. I followed approved Pitter doctrine and brought a bunch of stuff with us in case we broke down got raped. I should have told the car not to break down, rather than victim blaming and slut-shaming myself.

[Aneris]

In other news, PZ has handed over the keys. The inmates now also officially run the asylum. The regular who got the spare keys is no other than ChasCPeterson who often made quite good comments. Perhaps the situation is improving now. He wants to blog about sciency topics, too. Great!

oh wait… what were you thinking!? The person who became co-blogger is actually “Crip Dyke, Right Reverend Feminist FuckToy of Death & Her Handmaiden” who wants to make a workshop on gender.

[Hunt]

Several beer bottles are orally raping me right now. Stop, stop it. Offptt, stop raping me. No, keep raping me, do it more. Wait...what the FUCK is that wine bottle thinking over there....?

[rayshul]

game of thrones keeps raping me again and again.

[Apples]

game of thrones keeps raping me again and again.

I must admit I've let Orange is the New Black rape me a few times -- and it's lesbian prison rape, which almost no one ever talks about.

[Tony Parsehole]

Rape guide. :(

Shocking stuff.
Just like this sky rape with obscene explosive ejaculation:
[youtube]vDvMt252r3M[/youtube]

[James Caruthers]

Several beer bottles are orally raping me right now. Stop, stop it. Offptt, stop raping me. No, keep raping me, do it more. Wait...what the FUCK is that wine bottle thinking over there....?

It doesn't matter if you wanted it some of the time. No constant crystal clear consent = raep. :snooty:

[Kenteken]

In other news, PZ has handed over the keys. The inmates now also officially run the asylum. The regular who got the spare keys is no other than ChasCPeterson who often made quite good comments. Perhaps the situation is improving now. He wants to blog about sciency topics, too. Great!

oh wait… what were you thinking!? The person who became co-blogger is actually “Crip Dyke, Right Reverend Feminist FuckToy of Death & Her Handmaiden” who wants to make a workshop on gender.

For a moment you had me "no way" but at the end it is "yes way" as to be expected.

[Easy J]

Video about Feminists raising boys:




One of the silly articles linked under the video quoted some of the usual suspects I've come to know of from reading the Pit. I'm suddenly grateful for having had such a good, caring mother.