Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

Old subthreads
Søren Lilholt
.
.
Posts: 1025
Joined: Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:41 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50221

Post by Søren Lilholt »

:mrgreen: :clap:

Jan Steen
Pit Art Master
Pit Art Master
Posts: 3061
Joined: Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:18 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50222

Post by Jan Steen »

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:I am shaking with rage tears right.

I so cannot even this.......

http://i.imgur.com/2Yw296t.png

Triggering, ableist, condescending, bullying. It's a perfect example of Meyers's baboons' approach to arguing.

The whole thread is quite fun, with a commenter called Pseudonym calling Nerd an idiot and getting dogpiled.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ent-861610
Can we please stop giving Peezus & Co more clicks than necessary. Just paste your FTB link here:

http://archive.org/web/

This gives:

http://web.archive.org/web/201410050859 ... nt-page-2/

You only lose the direct link to the specific comment, but that's a minor inconvenience. On the plus side, it also removes the pop-up ads.

Thanks on behalve of those who were falsely accused of being harassers, misogynists and rapists by Peezus.

bovarchist
.
.
Posts: 1925
Joined: Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:07 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50223

Post by bovarchist »

Ophelia Benson wrote:The classical wizard represents the ideal, and the ideal is of course male. That’s the same thing. Always, without even thinking about it, thinking the ideal, the standard, the generic, the typical, the best, the most usual, the classic, the normal, is male, while the female is always the exception, the weird, the not as good – that’s the same thing. It’s the entrenched stereotype, that we’re all stuck with (unless we grew up in a very unusual and very isolated bubble), that males are general and right while women are defective.
One word: Polgara.

Søren Lilholt
.
.
Posts: 1025
Joined: Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:41 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50224

Post by Søren Lilholt »

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:

She's still fucking at it, more than three hours after she said she was going to bed. She is a liar. It must point to a pathology by now. That chick would tell you she loved you while throwing a cup of piss in your face.

http://i.imgur.com/gKjFbbJ.png

http://i.imgur.com/TncNPje.png
Pharyngula is her whole life, isn't it?

If she wasn't such an utterly obnoxious prick, I'd feel sorry for her. What a saddo. Worse still, all she has for company is rats.

Well, that and her pet rodents. :rimshot:

Apples
.
.
Posts: 2406
Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:39 pm

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50225

Post by Apples »

Tigzy wrote:Though I must admit, I'm having some difficulty believing that the Quimster was once a model. Unless there's a thriving market for dressing up chicken gizzards in haute couture.
Are you just saying you don't think of her as a proessional "model," or did you not see her photosets that franc tracked down?

http://31.media.tumblr.com/9078755ed13a ... o3_400.jpg

Cliché Guevara
.
.
Posts: 271
Joined: Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:21 pm

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50226

Post by Cliché Guevara »

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
Badger3k wrote:In other news, Ophie has a post up about more "atheism has a dudebro problem". You might think this was something new, but, no....just another Marcotte "article" (if you can call it such). Does she think yet another article from within their circle is something notable? Marcotte saw money and/or influence and jumped at the chance to ride the gravy train (well, the gravy boat, and a sinking one at that).
:clap: :clap: :clap:

Also for all the snipped stuff.
Marcuntte was writing the exact same sort of stuff ten years ago when she was plucked out of nowhere to start contributing to Pandagon. She may be savvy at marketing and promoting her shtick (which, despite knee-jerk assumptions, does not necessarily mean it's all a cynical scheme), but I have no doubt she's a true believer who will still be finding entrenched misogyny behind every tree and under every bed even if she returns to obscurity.

Søren Lilholt
.
.
Posts: 1025
Joined: Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:41 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50227

Post by Søren Lilholt »

CuntajusRationality wrote:
Ophelia Benson wrote:The classical wizard represents the ideal, and the ideal is of course male. That’s the same thing. Always, without even thinking about it, thinking the ideal, the standard, the generic, the typical, the best, the most usual, the classic, the normal, is male, while the female is always the exception, the weird, the not as good – that’s the same thing. It’s the entrenched stereotype, that we’re all stuck with (unless we grew up in a very unusual and very isolated bubble), that males are general and right while women are defective.
Projection, much?

And I wouldn't talk about being in "a very unusual and very isolated bubble" if I were you, Ophie. :lol:

Silly Moo.

Snapfingers
.
.
Posts: 362
Joined: Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:45 pm

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50228

Post by Snapfingers »

Shout out to tigzy for some top trolling on twatter!
:clap: :dance: :mrgreen:

Badger3k
.
.
Posts: 3466
Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:53 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50229

Post by Badger3k »

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Bravo, sirrah, bravo!

Slipterid
.
.
Posts: 159
Joined: Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:22 am
Location: Scotland

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50230

Post by Slipterid »

Gumby wrote: I think it's entirely Pit-like-esque to have loud pointless arguments about anything and everything. If people want to argue about their own personal boundaries and what they find offensive and inoffensive, I see nothing unPit about that. Really, the way I see it, arguments like this are what make this place almost entirely self-policing. With an obnoxious attention-whoring exception or two, discussion such as this help members gauge the general attitude of the Pit community, and this helps people when they consider posting something NSFW. At least, I'd like to think so.
Yes. This is partly why the Pit is such a wonderful place to visit as a semi-lurker. The place is full of variety, interest and honesty, usually delivered with humour. I can easily skip over anything that is either boring or irritating to me. Of course I may be biased because although I have personal boundaries the Pit has never overstepped them; I think that the reason for this is that everyone here has a warm, genuine heart and would never do real harm. Even the arseholes. I used to lurk over at the FTBlogs but I no longer bother because I kept seeing too much there that was frustrating or upsetting to me. My attitude to them is similar to my view of creationist screeds; I only look at them when I see a link from a place where they are being debunked.

As always I am several pages behind, so apologies if you have all moved on beyond this subject.

Kirbmarc
.
.
Posts: 10577
Joined: Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:29 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50231

Post by Kirbmarc »

http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/ori ... 17-916.png

Is she really considered black? Because I'm darker than she is, and I'm 100% caucasian as far as I know.

https://scontent-a-mxp.xx.fbcdn.net/hph ... e=54C09D5D

Badger3k
.
.
Posts: 3466
Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:53 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50232

Post by Badger3k »

Jan Steen wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:I am shaking with rage tears right.

I so cannot even this.......

http://i.imgur.com/2Yw296t.png

Triggering, ableist, condescending, bullying. It's a perfect example of Meyers's baboons' approach to arguing.

The whole thread is quite fun, with a commenter called Pseudonym calling Nerd an idiot and getting dogpiled.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ent-861610
Can we please stop giving Peezus & Co more clicks than necessary. Just paste your FTB link here:

http://archive.org/web/

This gives:

http://web.archive.org/web/201410050859 ... nt-page-2/

You only lose the direct link to the specific comment, but that's a minor inconvenience. On the plus side, it also removes the pop-up ads.

Thanks on behalve of those who were falsely accused of being harassers, misogynists and rapists by Peezus.
Finally added that to my browser bar. You don't need to sign up?

Apples
.
.
Posts: 2406
Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:39 pm

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50233

Post by Apples »

Snapfingers wrote:Shout out to tigzy for some top trolling on twatter!
:clap: :dance: :mrgreen:
People who don't link things should die in a fire.

Guest

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50234

Post by Guest »

Ophelia Benson wrote:The classical wizard represents the ideal, and the ideal is of course male.
She's got a point. I mean just look at Harry Potter. Every single wizard in that series is male without exception.

bhoytony
.
.
Posts: 3017
Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:56 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50235

Post by bhoytony »

Har, har.

Lsuoma
Fascist Tit
Posts: 11692
Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:58 pm
Location: Punggye-ri

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50236

Post by Lsuoma »

rayshul wrote:Looking through pictures of Leigh Alexander on the googles, the candid photos of her make her look visibly mixed.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/kXnBSb1l56k/maxresdefault.jpg
Half human, half orc?

comhcinc
.
.
Posts: 10835
Joined: Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:59 am
Location: from Parts Unknown
Contact:

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50237

Post by comhcinc »

Apples wrote:
Tigzy wrote:Though I must admit, I'm having some difficulty believing that the Quimster was once a model. Unless there's a thriving market for dressing up chicken gizzards in haute couture.
Are you just saying you don't think of her as a proessional "model," or did you not see her photosets that franc tracked down?

http://31.media.tumblr.com/9078755ed13a ... o3_400.jpg
He (he?) is saying that since he has an issue with with Zoe that she must be ugly. It's pretty common tactic and one of the very few points that the feminist are right about. Disagree with a woman, talk about how ugly or unfuckable she is. I find it pretty childish, boring, and honestly unhelpful helping them prove a point.

I am finding the same is Leigh Alexander mixed race just as bad if not fucking worst. Who cares, doesn't matter. It's unhelpful to question ever claim someone makes about themselves. Also it appears that people doing that are just fucking wrong. Apologize and get back to discussing/fighting her ideology.

Gumby
Pit Art Master
Pit Art Master
Posts: 5543
Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:40 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50238

Post by Gumby »

Badger3k wrote:
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Bravo, sirrah, bravo!
Just to clarify - I found that on Twitter, I didn't make it myself.

Gumby
Pit Art Master
Pit Art Master
Posts: 5543
Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:40 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50239

Post by Gumby »

Peter Boghossian discusses the current radfem-poisoned environment in the a/s community, taking note of the usual suspects' involvement in creating an atmosphere where disagreement is censored, etc... you know, all the shit we talk about every day here.

Feminists vs. Atheists: The Death of Rational Discourse - Dr Peter Boghossian and Stefan Molyneux
[youtube]kdS9QFaXRQ4[/youtube]

Nothing groundbreaking, but every additional voice is welcome.

Kirbmarc
.
.
Posts: 10577
Joined: Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:29 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50240

Post by Kirbmarc »

I am finding the same is Leigh Alexander mixed race just as bad if not fucking worst. Who cares, doesn't matter. It's unhelpful to question ever claim someone makes about themselves. Also it appears that people doing that are just fucking wrong. Apologize and get back to discussing/fighting her ideology.
It matters because she claims she's oppressed and subject to microaggression and casual racism, for being mixed race, when it's clear that few people could tell that she was mixed race unless she told them, which makes people question the truth of her claims.

Brive1987
.
.
Posts: 17791
Joined: Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:16 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50241

Post by Brive1987 »

Still it's amazing Zoe tries to pull that look off.

Because it's pretty rancid.

Gumby
Pit Art Master
Pit Art Master
Posts: 5543
Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:40 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50242

Post by Gumby »


another lurker
.
.
Posts: 4740
Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:39 pm

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50243

Post by another lurker »


Brive1987
.
.
Posts: 17791
Joined: Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:16 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50244

Post by Brive1987 »

As I thought. Nothing on Stollznow on FtB for the past months worth of renewed blitz on rape/assault.

Lousy's page update was a Shermer one on his timeline.

http://i.imgur.com/F8LG4Go.jpg

comhcinc
.
.
Posts: 10835
Joined: Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:59 am
Location: from Parts Unknown
Contact:

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50245

Post by comhcinc »

Kirbmarc wrote:
I am finding the same is Leigh Alexander mixed race just as bad if not fucking worst. Who cares, doesn't matter. It's unhelpful to question ever claim someone makes about themselves. Also it appears that people doing that are just fucking wrong. Apologize and get back to discussing/fighting her ideology.
It matters because she claims she's oppressed and subject to microaggression and casual racism, for being mixed race, when it's clear that few people could tell that she was mixed race unless she told them, which makes people question the truth of her claims.

Oh so because you couldn't tell her race in some picture (make-up, good lighting, photoshopped) pictures, that's some how fair game.

I would argue that black people are not oppressed, that there is no such things as microaggression and that why casual racism surely exist, it a small challenge that most people are able to get past every day of their lives.

I would argue that being a certain race, or mixed, does not give you any extra clout when talking about issues that face society. That while you have surely had different experiences from me because of your race, it does not make it sure I can not think critically about the subject.

I would argue that much of the "black experience" at least in America is much more a result of class than of color.


But hey you go ahead and tell her, she isn't mixed. Go head. Because arguing that point you are by default allowing that oppression, microaggression and casual racism are big issues, and only certain people are allowed to discuss them.

Brive1987
.
.
Posts: 17791
Joined: Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:16 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50246

Post by Brive1987 »

If you were to go to the hessianwithteeth article (which I recommend against, yet another gormless rehash and faux horror) who would you find at the top of the recommended reading list?

Well Mr Mattusmaximus himself, the skeptical teacher.

"Schism, what schism"

Wanker.

http://i.imgur.com/vlDX2Uf.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ttb8wqQ.jpg

Brive1987
.
.
Posts: 17791
Joined: Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:16 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50247

Post by Brive1987 »

another lurker wrote:Link to topless photo of zq
http://38.media.tumblr.com/9da4a7ab52d2 ... 2_1280.png
Well if it's on display, the comment remains "what's not to like"?

:cdc:

Brive1987
.
.
Posts: 17791
Joined: Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:16 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50248

Post by Brive1987 »

Not.

Brive1987
.
.
Posts: 17791
Joined: Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:16 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50249

Post by Brive1987 »

another lurker wrote:Link to topless photo of zq
http://38.media.tumblr.com/9da4a7ab52d2 ... 2_1280.png
A shit pic in human form is still a shit pic.

*blocked*

comhcinc
.
.
Posts: 10835
Joined: Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:59 am
Location: from Parts Unknown
Contact:

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50250

Post by comhcinc »

Brive1987 wrote:
another lurker wrote:Link to topless photo of zq
http://38.media.tumblr.com/9da4a7ab52d2 ... 2_1280.png
A shit pic in human form is still a shit pic.

*blocked*

http://i.imgur.com/tE3wQcn.png

deLurch
.
.
Posts: 8447
Joined: Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:11 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50251

Post by deLurch »

OK. What movie is that from.

Apples
.
.
Posts: 2406
Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:39 pm

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50252

Post by Apples »

*sigh* guess I'll have to enact the labor myself



lol totally worth it

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/10-05-2014/hOCido.gif

Kirbmarc
.
.
Posts: 10577
Joined: Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:29 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50253

Post by Kirbmarc »

comhcinc wrote: Oh so because you couldn't tell her race in some picture (make-up, good lighting, photoshopped) pictures, that's some how fair game.

I would argue that black people are not oppressed, that there is no such things as microaggression and that why casual racism surely exist, it a small challenge that most people are able to get past every day of their lives.

I would argue that being a certain race, or mixed, does not give you any extra clout when talking about issues that face society. That while you have surely had different experiences from me because of your race, it does not make it sure I can not think critically about the subject.

I would argue that much of the "black experience" at least in America is much more a result of class than of color.


But hey you go ahead and tell her, she isn't mixed. Go head. Because arguing that point you are by default allowing that oppression, microaggression and casual racism are big issues, and only certain people are allowed to discuss them.
I'm not telling her that she isn't mixed. I honestly don't know if she is, and she could be, for all I care. I'm arguing that I find it hard to believe her "lived experience" of casual racism against her when it's hard to tell that she has black ancestry unless you know it.

I actually agree with you on most points you make. I just wanted to point out that her story of her oppression look even less believable than others. If you are 5 feet 11 inches tall but complain that people bully you for being short, I find it a little hard to believe.

If she is white-presenting but complains of people being racism against her because she's black, I find her story a little hard to believe.

Apples
.
.
Posts: 2406
Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:39 pm

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50254

Post by Apples »

Kirbmarc wrote:
comhcinc wrote: Oh so because you couldn't tell her race in some picture (make-up, good lighting, photoshopped) pictures, that's some how fair game.

I would argue that black people are not oppressed, that there is no such things as microaggression and that why casual racism surely exist, it a small challenge that most people are able to get past every day of their lives.

I would argue that being a certain race, or mixed, does not give you any extra clout when talking about issues that face society. That while you have surely had different experiences from me because of your race, it does not make it sure I can not think critically about the subject.

I would argue that much of the "black experience" at least in America is much more a result of class than of color.


But hey you go ahead and tell her, she isn't mixed. Go head. Because arguing that point you are by default allowing that oppression, microaggression and casual racism are big issues, and only certain people are allowed to discuss them.
I'm not telling her that she isn't mixed. I honestly don't know if she is, and she could be, for all I care. I'm arguing that I find it hard to believe her "lived experience" of casual racism against her when it's hard to tell that she has black ancestry unless you know it.

I actually agree with you on most points you make. I just wanted to point out that her story of her oppression look even less believable than others. If you are 5 feet 11 inches tall but complain that people bully you for being short, I find it a little hard to believe.

If she is white-presenting but complains of people being racism against her because she's black, I find her story a little hard to believe.
I think this discussion was sparked because people have accused her of racy remarks ("I don't like hood people making comments to me from cars," etc.), and then someone white-knighted her on twitter, saying something like, "she's black, she can't be racist against blacks."

Not sure she's really, herself, claimed to be a "victim" of racism. She did write the 'i am thinking about twerking' essay, which I posted yesterday, in which she talks about her ethnic background and admits that she appears white/Jewish and not black. She also talks about feeling "alienated" because of her mixed racialosity/that of her family. But she explicitly says she doesn't feel comfortable claiming to have "experienced racism."

piero
.
.
Posts: 344
Joined: Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:40 pm

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50255

Post by piero »

Gumby wrote:Well, even though the damned thing doesn't make a lick of sense... you're welcome. Once I get more of a sense of your posting style I'll try to come up with something more appropriate for your avatar. Maybe an explosive diarrhea gif?
Yeah, why not. With some peanuts.

Tigzy
Pit Art Master
Pit Art Master
Posts: 6789
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:53 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50256

Post by Tigzy »

Brive1987 wrote:Josh boils the complex shims down to its core:

http://i.imgur.com/R1k8Do9.jpg
'I fuckin hate men' is not something I expected to hear from any gay, least of all the official spokesone.

Gumby
Pit Art Master
Pit Art Master
Posts: 5543
Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:40 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50257

Post by Gumby »

Apples wrote:*sigh* guess I'll have to enact the labor myself



lol totally worth it

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/10-05-2014/hOCido.gif
:D
Tigzy was in fine form indeed. I wish I could troll like him (and Parsehole).

Tigzy
Pit Art Master
Pit Art Master
Posts: 6789
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:53 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50258

Post by Tigzy »

comhcinc wrote: He (he?) is saying that since he has an issue with with Zoe that she must be ugly. It's pretty common tactic and one of the very few points that the feminist are right about. Disagree with a woman, talk about how ugly or unfuckable she is. I find it pretty childish, boring, and honestly unhelpful helping them prove a point.
When the fems drop the 'fat, basement-dwelling neckbearded virgin' thing, then I'll start cutting them some slack on their general physical repulsiveness. Seems fair enough to me.

And it's 'Xe', motherfucker.

comhcinc
.
.
Posts: 10835
Joined: Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:59 am
Location: from Parts Unknown
Contact:

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50259

Post by comhcinc »

Kirbmarc wrote:
I'm not telling her that she isn't mixed.
No, but you are opening questioning it as if it matters.
Kirbmarc wrote:
Is she really considered black? Because I'm darker than she is, and I'm 100% caucasian as far as I know.


Kirbmarc wrote: I honestly don't know if she is, and she could be, for all I care. I'm arguing that I find it hard to believe her "lived experience" of casual racism against her when it's hard to tell that she has black ancestry unless you know it.
You may find this hard to believe being what I have been saying but she looks pretty black to me in her twitter photo and every other picture posted so far. Maybe it is just my white southern racist roots showing but looking past her skin tone and at her physical features I would assume she was mixed. (on a side note there was a story on tv recently about biracial twins, I looked for it and could not find it, one was suppose to look white while the other black, both looked black to me just a skin tone difference)


Kirbmarc wrote:I actually agree with you on most points you make. I just wanted to point out that her story of her oppression look even less believable than others. If you are 5 feet 11 inches tall but complain that people bully you for being short, I find it a little hard to believe.

If she is white-presenting but complains of people being racism against her because she's black, I find her story a little hard to believe.

And all she has to say is she is "white presenting" because of the x,y,z of her oppression. Why not just accept what she says about herself and argue the points she is making?

Kirbmarc
.
.
Posts: 10577
Joined: Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:29 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50260

Post by Kirbmarc »

I think this discussion was sparked because people have accused her of racy remarks ("I don't like hood people making comments to me from cars," etc.), and then someone white-knighted her on twitter, saying something like, "she's black, she can't be racist against blacks."

Not sure she's really, herself, claimed to be a "victim" of racism. She did write the 'i am thinking about twerking' essay, which I posted yesterday, in which she talks about her ethnic background and admits that she appears white/Jewish and not black. She also talks about feeling "alienated" because of her mixed racialosity/that of her family. But she explicitly says she doesn't feel comfortable claiming to have "experienced racism."
I made a mistake then. I thought that she claimed she couldn't be racist because she's black and experienced racism as a victim. If it's another person white-knighting for her I can't blame her for other people's opinions.

I still think that her SJW ideology is wrong, and that the white knight's argument is fallacious, but I recognize that I misunderstood the series of events, and for that I apologize.

Immanuel K
.
.
Posts: 66
Joined: Fri Sep 05, 2014 2:51 am
Location: Vogonia

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50261

Post by Immanuel K »

bovarchist wrote:
Immanuel K, never shirking
Switched to shooping when poems weren't working
PZ eying the ass
Of some lass in his class
While she no doubt was thinking of twerking.
Bovarchist went beserking
Over this meme we call twerking
In his sex fantasy, he rhymed about me
No doubt while wanking and jerking

Thats double plus good mastubation
But only in his sizable imagination
Unlike in the pic, of his zero point dick
Which triggers no lubrication

He´s the forum climate´s Martin Durkin
Until proven wrong i´ll keep asserting
That Bovarchists state of mind´s like the name of the band
Who wrote the song "March of the Gherkins"

Tigzy
Pit Art Master
Pit Art Master
Posts: 6789
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:53 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50262

Post by Tigzy »

Gumby wrote:
Apples wrote:*sigh* guess I'll have to enact the labor myself



lol totally worth it

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/10-05-2014/hOCido.gif
:D
Tigzy was in fine form indeed. I wish I could troll like him (and Parsehole).
When it comes to SJW, just use their own tactics against them. It's funny - you can usually call them racist, and they'll never actually deny it. Try it sometime. Tis a fine amusement.

deLurch
.
.
Posts: 8447
Joined: Mon Nov 19, 2012 6:11 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50263

Post by deLurch »

rayshul wrote:Looking through pictures of Leigh Alexander on the googles, the candid photos of her make her look visibly mixed.

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/kXnBSb1l56k/maxresdefault.jpg
Yeah, candid photos come across much differently.
http://i.imgur.com/5X5Z1S7.jpg

Of course when she makes herself up for a myspace style closeup selfie, she does an excellent job.
http://i.imgur.com/6mAuhyh.jpg

comhcinc
.
.
Posts: 10835
Joined: Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:59 am
Location: from Parts Unknown
Contact:

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50264

Post by comhcinc »

Tigzy wrote:
comhcinc wrote: He (he?) is saying that since he has an issue with with Zoe that she must be ugly. It's pretty common tactic and one of the very few points that the feminist are right about. Disagree with a woman, talk about how ugly or unfuckable she is. I find it pretty childish, boring, and honestly unhelpful helping them prove a point.
When the fems drop the 'fat, basement-dwelling neckbearded virgin' thing, then I'll start cutting them some slack on their general physical repulsiveness. Seems fair enough to me.

And it's 'Xe', motherfucker.

They are like a piece of shit thus I will act like a piece of shit. Yeah that is not a nasty cycle that won't ever end.

Gumby
Pit Art Master
Pit Art Master
Posts: 5543
Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:40 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50265

Post by Gumby »

Tigzy wrote: When it comes to SJW, just use their own tactics against them. It's funny - you can usually call them racist, and they'll never actually deny it. Try it sometime. Tis a fine amusement.
I don't know how much luck I'd have, given that my twatter handle is @Slymepit. If I ever feel the urge to troll the SJWs I'd have to create a new account.

Gumby
Pit Art Master
Pit Art Master
Posts: 5543
Joined: Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:40 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50266

Post by Gumby »

OK enough of this place for the day. Or at least for the morning. I never get anything useful done when I'm bantering with you racist misogynist rapist pigs.

Tigzy
Pit Art Master
Pit Art Master
Posts: 6789
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:53 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50267

Post by Tigzy »

comhcinc wrote: They are like a piece of shit thus I will act like a piece of shit. Yeah that is not a nasty cycle that won't ever end.
:lol: - it wouldn't fucking end anyway. Seriously, you think the fems will actually stop with the neckbeard thing if their opponents didn't make remarks about looks? Remember, you're dealing with certain factions which routinely call for the extermination of all men to the sound of titters from their audience. Nah, give em a taste of their own hypocrisy; and if it hurts their feelings - well, good.

comhcinc
.
.
Posts: 10835
Joined: Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:59 am
Location: from Parts Unknown
Contact:

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50268

Post by comhcinc »

Apples wrote: I think this discussion was sparked because people have accused her of racy remarks ("I don't like hood people making comments to me from cars," etc.), and then someone white-knighted her on twitter, saying something like, "she's black, she can't be racist against blacks."

Not sure she's really, herself, claimed to be a "victim" of racism. She did write the 'i am thinking about twerking' essay, which I posted yesterday, in which she talks about her ethnic background and admits that she appears white/Jewish and not black. She also talks about feeling "alienated" because of her mixed racialosity/that of her family. But she explicitly says she doesn't feel comfortable claiming to have "experienced racism."

Yeah I that was my take away too. I just hate this game of questioning every little thing a person says. It is exactly what PZ and his bunch does.

I don't like creating caricatures of people just so I can mock them. I know I am never going to convince Leigh Alexander that she is wrong. I may convince someone looking at these discusses we have that I am right.

Apples
.
.
Posts: 2406
Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:39 pm

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50269

Post by Apples »

Kirbmarc wrote:
I think this discussion was sparked because people have accused her of racy remarks ("I don't like hood people making comments to me from cars," etc.), and then someone white-knighted her on twitter, saying something like, "she's black, she can't be racist against blacks."

Not sure she's really, herself, claimed to be a "victim" of racism. She did write the 'i am thinking about twerking' essay, which I posted yesterday, in which she talks about her ethnic background and admits that she appears white/Jewish and not black. She also talks about feeling "alienated" because of her mixed racialosity/that of her family. But she explicitly says she doesn't feel comfortable claiming to have "experienced racism."
I made a mistake then. I thought that she claimed she couldn't be racist because she's black and experienced racism as a victim. If it's another person white-knighting for her I can't blame her for other people's opinions.

I still think that her SJW ideology is wrong, and that the white knight's argument is fallacious, but I recognize that I misunderstood the series of events, and for that I apologize.
#racistshitlordnotpology

comhcinc
.
.
Posts: 10835
Joined: Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:59 am
Location: from Parts Unknown
Contact:

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50270

Post by comhcinc »

Tigzy wrote:
comhcinc wrote: They are like a piece of shit thus I will act like a piece of shit. Yeah that is not a nasty cycle that won't ever end.
:lol: - it wouldn't fucking end anyway. Seriously, you think the fems will actually stop with the neckbeard thing if their opponents didn't make remarks about looks? Remember, you're dealing with certain factions which routinely call for the extermination of all men to the sound of titters from their audience. Nah, give em a taste of their own hypocrisy; and if it hurts their feelings - well, good.

No I don't think they will ever stop yelling about neckbeards but I do know that if they are the only one making unnecessary personal attacks then people will stop listening to them.

The Klan use to have some pull. So did the Black Panthers. When looking a less organization and more at ideology look at the gay marriage issue in America. In the 80s most of the country was against it. Now most of the country is for it. Part of the reason is because the major opponents such as ole' Pat Robinson keep making retard claims that all the bullshit that the gheys bring.

When a woman says "people don't respect women" and your response is to go "she is ugly" even if it is just in a list of two hundred issues you have with the woman, then you just gave them the weapon they need.

Sides' are the big mean bad feminist hurting your feels by talking about your neckbeard?

Kirbmarc
.
.
Posts: 10577
Joined: Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:29 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50271

Post by Kirbmarc »

You may find this hard to believe being what I have been saying but she looks pretty black to me in her twitter photo and every other picture posted so far. Maybe it is just my white southern racist roots showing but looking past her skin tone and at her physical features I would assume she was mixed. (on a side note there was a story on tv recently about biracial twins, I looked for it and could not find it, one was suppose to look white while the other black, both looked black to me just a skin tone difference)
I guess i just don't really get what "black" means then. I always thought that being classified as "black"by racists was a matter of skin tone.
And all she has to say is she is "white presenting" because of the x,y,z of her oppression. Why not just accept what she says about herself and argue the points she is making?
Because I thought that the point she was making was "I'm black, I experienced racism, therefore I can't be racist against blacks". The conclusion of this syllogism is of course a fallacy, but I was having doubts about the "I experienced racism" part of the premise, too.

It turned out it was someone else who made the claim, so I made a mistake.

comhcinc
.
.
Posts: 10835
Joined: Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:59 am
Location: from Parts Unknown
Contact:

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50272

Post by comhcinc »

Kirbmarc wrote:
I still think that her SJW ideology is wrong, and that the white knight's argument is fallacious, but I recognize that I misunderstood the series of events, and for that I apologize.

Cool I agree with you too on that (as often with forums I am catching up). To celebrate our understanding let me sing you the song of my people.

[youtube]e9IRAgpF2f0[/youtube]

Kirbmarc
.
.
Posts: 10577
Joined: Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:29 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50273

Post by Kirbmarc »

I just hate this game of questioning every little thing a person says. It is exactly what PZ and his bunch does.
To be fair questioning other people's claims what you do as a skeptic. PZ, if anything, is far too trusting (when it suits his ideology).

comhcinc
.
.
Posts: 10835
Joined: Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:59 am
Location: from Parts Unknown
Contact:

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50274

Post by comhcinc »

Kirbmarc wrote:I guess i just don't really get what "black" means then. I always thought that being classified as "black"by racists was a matter of skin tone.
No where I am from it would denote where your ancestors come from is in a very broad term. You are either white (from any upper European country, British isles, russian) Black (anywhere in Africa), Chinese (any Asian), Mexican (Mexico and below), or Camel Jockey (Middle East, Indian sub continent, lower European countries).

Don't matter the skin tone, just that someone in your past was from there at some point. Except white. You must have a clean line back.

I didn't make the rules but I grew up around them.

comhcinc
.
.
Posts: 10835
Joined: Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:59 am
Location: from Parts Unknown
Contact:

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50275

Post by comhcinc »

Kirbmarc wrote:
I just hate this game of questioning every little thing a person says. It is exactly what PZ and his bunch does.
To be fair questioning other people's claims what you do as a skeptic. PZ, if anything, is far too trusting (when it suits his ideology).

There is skepticism and then there is hyper skepticism. There is also asking the relative questions and not worrying about the unimportant stuff.

If I told you a spaceship came down out of the sky at 6 am and purple being from the planet Glick got out and and told me I should rape your mother and that you should help, it really should not be important if was 6 on the dot or 5 after 6.

TheMan
.
.
Posts: 709
Joined: Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:56 pm
Location: Sydney, Australia.

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50276

Post by TheMan »

Rabbitohs.... Champions 2014

Tigzy
Pit Art Master
Pit Art Master
Posts: 6789
Joined: Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:53 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50277

Post by Tigzy »

comhcinc wrote:
Tigzy wrote:
comhcinc wrote: They are like a piece of shit thus I will act like a piece of shit. Yeah that is not a nasty cycle that won't ever end.
:lol: - it wouldn't fucking end anyway. Seriously, you think the fems will actually stop with the neckbeard thing if their opponents didn't make remarks about looks? Remember, you're dealing with certain factions which routinely call for the extermination of all men to the sound of titters from their audience. Nah, give em a taste of their own hypocrisy; and if it hurts their feelings - well, good.

No I don't think they will ever stop yelling about neckbeards but I do know that if they are the only one making unnecessary personal attacks then people will stop listening to them.

The Klan use to have some pull. So did the Black Panthers. When looking a less organization and more at ideology look at the gay marriage issue in America. In the 80s most of the country was against it. Now most of the country is for it. Part of the reason is because the major opponents such as ole' Pat Robinson keep making retard claims that all the bullshit that the gheys bring.

When a woman says "people don't respect women" and your response is to go "she is ugly" even if it is just in a list of two hundred issues you have with the woman, then you just gave them the weapon they need.

Sides' are the big mean bad feminist hurting your feels by talking about your neckbeard?
Oops - strawman. You're working from the basis that the only, or greater portion, of the responses people make to radfem excesses is to say, 'you're ugly etc etc'. This is bollocks. My remarks as to the Quimster's physical rankness weren't in response to any argument she put forward. I just said it because I don't like her and because it's true. There's plenty of good counter-argument out there - and if it's sauced up a little by some personal remarks from either side - well, that's people for ya.

Seriously, if you don't think insulting people based on their looks is a good idea - then just don't do it. I dunno, maybe you're someone so lofty in your refinements that you've never made a judgement call on someone's appearance - I mean, I can definitely see you as the type to go for personality over looks (oh meow, girlfriend).

sinister
.
.
Posts: 1375
Joined: Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:11 pm
Location: geo-synchronous orbit

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50278

Post by sinister »

blitzem wrote:
sinister wrote:Vagina dentida?
What YT accidentally did to Raven in Neal Stephensons' Snow Crash made an indelible imprint on my young brain. (The lower one)
Me too! Hahaha!

katamari Damassi
.
.
Posts: 5429
Joined: Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:32 am

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50279

Post by katamari Damassi »

Gumby wrote:
Apples wrote:


lol totally worth it

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/10-05-2014/hOCido.gif
:D
Tigzy was in fine form indeed. I wish I could troll like him (and Parsehole).
Jesus Christ I hope that's a toy in the dog's mouth. I'd rather look at a million animated scat gifs than a single animal cruelty one.

JackSkeptic
.
.
Posts: 3222
Joined: Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:23 pm
Location: UK

Re: Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

#50280

Post by JackSkeptic »

One marked difference between the current Nugent discussions and the ones from last year is the awareness people have of their tactics. It was frustrating last year that the SJW's were believed so readily and it took enormousness effort to deal with that. It seems to take a lot of time for some people to accept the obvious about their tactics despite it being easily observed. You still see this blinkered attitude with some people, notably several posters at JREF, but at least it seems the silent majority has finally worked them out.

But really, if the SJW's had any subtlety their effectiveness would be considerably higher and they would be winning. Why some people need the obvious pointed out to them, with substantial evidence, for two years before they accept it is beyond me. The SJW's are always about cult tactics. They attack leaders and abuse anyone who disagrees with them while controlling spaces and establishing a tribal ethos. They have been doing this openly. So why were so many blind to it?

Locked