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welch wrote:
bhoytony wrote:
That whole list of alternate choices she gave was just an excuse for her to show she knows cool or obscure stuff. FFS, X Ray Spex, complete shite, but probably very far from mainstream in whatever part of US she lives.
I guaran-fucking-tee she says "I liked them BEFORE they were popular" at least once a month.
Well X Ray Spex were slightly popular for ten minutes in 1978, so I hope she's got a tardis*



*I can't believe I made a Dr Who reference in this cesspit of nerds.

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Hunt wrote:Is this Taslima's version of a public service announcement?

http://freethoughtblogs.com/taslima/201 ... r-ramadan/
All I am getting out of this is that she is pissed off that men can pay for sex.

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ROBOKiTTY wrote:http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 163750.htm

Debunks Sarkeesian and other video game moralizers.
I'm not sure I understand this study. Why did they ask the participants to think of events from the past that did or did not induce guilt? Didn't they poison their own study by putting the idea of guilt in the gamers' heads before they even sat down to play?

That said, it's fully possible I'm just misunderstanding what's going on here; I don't read about scientific studies often. But the inclusion of asking the participants about guilt confuses me. Why didn't they just have them play the games (or not) and then take the diagnostics?

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Here's what happens when one watches 1984 and then reads the pure crap put out by Natalie Reed:

http://skeptischism.com/blog/2014/06/29 ... rty_elite/

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bhoytony wrote:
welch wrote:
bhoytony wrote:
That whole list of alternate choices she gave was just an excuse for her to show she knows cool or obscure stuff. FFS, X Ray Spex, complete shite, but probably very far from mainstream in whatever part of US she lives.
I guaran-fucking-tee she says "I liked them BEFORE they were popular" at least once a month.
Well X Ray Spex were slightly popular for ten minutes in 1978, so I hope she's got a tardis*



*I can't believe I made a Dr Who reference in this cesspit of nerds.
Finally looked them up on wikipedia. NOW I remember them. Yeah. they were a classic punk band. 1-2 songs, and done.

And Reed is such an ultra-poser. Really Nat?

Bet she's got a Poly t-shirt that she bought at hot topic.

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AndrewV69 wrote:@Phil,

Ramadan started today. If you want revenge try grilling some food where they can smell it an hour before sunset.

(nearly sunset here and if my neighbour stared grilling shrimp on his barbie right now I would probably go cray cray)
Just the fact you are observing the Ramadan fasting makes you already cray cray.
I assume you also flagellate yourself with chains on Ashura too. :think:

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screwtape wrote:
AndrewV69 wrote:@Phil,

Ramadan started today. If you want revenge try grilling some food where they can smell it an hour before sunset.

(nearly sunset here and if my neighbour stared grilling shrimp on his barbie right now I would probably go cray cray)
Cray cray crayfish?
You got it.

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Natalie Reed wrote: Also, like, you ask someone their favorite poet, novelist, artwork, band, composer and wine, and they say "Shakespeare, Stephen King, The Mona Lisa, The Beatles, Beethoven and Dom Perignon". [Y]ou don't think "Oh, this person must be educated and cultured!" You think ... This person is just saying what they think will make them sound cultured[.] ... If someone answers "Eileen Myles, Kathy Acker, The Bachelor St[r]ipped Bare, X-Ray Spex, Michael Nyman and Carlo Rossi!" then even if you don't like them, you AT LEAST assume they're being honest, and have a genuine passion for what they named.
Does she mean this artwork, by any chance?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bride_ ... lors,_Even

The best way to sound cultured is to mangle whatever it is you're trying to name-check...?

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*sigh*


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HoneyWagon wrote:Is Ophelia taking a swipe at Natalie Reed?
https://twitter.com/OpheliaBenson/statu ... 0713712640

[.img]http://www.clipular.com/c/5525050484588 ... VUaHoeqx-M[/img]
Ophie's just jealous because Natalie can actually string together more than 140 characters of her own writing.

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I find it interesting that Ofie criticizes others for not using lots of words...especially after I just found this spreadsheet about how she doesn't use many of her own words on her blog.

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Gumby wrote:
Guestus Aurelius wrote:
Natalie Reed wrote: Also, like, you ask someone their favorite poet, novelist, artwork, band, composer and wine, and they say "Shakespeare, Stephen King, The Mona Lisa, The Beatles, Beethoven and Dom Perignon". [Y]ou don't think "Oh, this person must be educated and cultured!" You think ... This person is just saying what they think will make them sound cultured[.] ... If someone answers "Eileen Myles, Kathy Acker, The Bachelor St[r]ipped Bare, X-Ray Spex, Michael Nyman and Carlo Rossi!" then even if you don't like them, you AT LEAST assume they're being honest, and have a genuine passion for what they named.
I get so tired of these people. If something/someone is world-famous and liked by millions, liking them yourself makes you a poser who lies in order to make yourself look... educated and cultured?

However, if you like lesser-known things/people, everyone will think you're all cool and shit.

Natalie Reed has just described hipster douchebaggery in a nut shell.
Hehe, yep.

Of course, there are posers from all walks of life who pretend to like things in order to make themselves seem educated and cultured (or "all cool and shit"). But they're clearly cut from the same cloth as Natalie Reed, for whom aesthetic preferences are apparently a good indicator of a person's character.

Note that Dawkins seems to have limited his #CosmicTombstone nominees to people whose work he's actually familiar with. He's a well-educated Briton, and he chose Shakespeare. Not Du Fu, not Li Bai. Not even Cervantes, for that matter.

Shakespeare.

And I know he's written about his love of classical music elsewhere, at least in passing (IIRC he mentions Bach's St. Matthew Passion somewhere in The God Delusion).

Natalie Reed's implication that Dawkins picked Shakespeare and Schubert to "sound cultured" isn't just obnoxious and uncharitable—it's based on no evidence whatsoever.

Also, would the SJWs have preferred it if Dawkins had lied about his preferences? or if he'd appropriated chosen non-Westerners whose output he's had little or no exposure to, all in the name of tokenism diversity?

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Guestus Aurelius wrote:Also, would the SJWs have preferred it if Dawkins had lied about his preferences? or if he'd appropriated chosen non-Westerners whose output he's had little or no exposure to, all in the name of tokenism diversity?
That was exactly my issue with her verbal vomit. He specifically said "for me" indicating personal preference. It was exactly as if Reed wanted Dawkins to just lie and put out token PoC artists that he knew practically nothing about.

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AndrewV69 wrote:
Hunt wrote:Is this Taslima's version of a public service announcement?

http://freethoughtblogs.com/taslima/201 ... r-ramadan/
All I am getting out of this is that she is pissed off that men can pay for sex.

So can women:
A gigolo is a male escort or social companion who is supported by a woman in a continuing relationship,[1] often living in her residence or having to be present at her beck and call. The gigolo is expected to provide companionship, to serve as a consistent escort with good manners and social skills, and often, to serve as a dancing partner as required by the woman in exchange for the support (which is contrary to typical norms). Many gifts such as expensive clothing and an automobile to drive may be lavished upon him. The relationship may include sexual services as well, when he also would be referred to as "a kept man".[2]
You fucking sexist, you.

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Guestus Aurelius wrote: Hehe, yep.

Of course, there are posers from all walks of life who pretend to like things in order to make themselves seem educated and cultured (or "all cool and shit"). But they're clearly cut from the same cloth as Natalie Reed, for whom aesthetic preferences are apparently a good indicator of a person's character.

Note that Dawkins seems to have limited his #CosmicTombstone nominees to people whose work he's actually familiar with. He's a well-educated Briton, and he chose Shakespeare. Not Du Fu, not Li Bai. Not even Cervantes, for that matter.

Shakespeare.

And I know he's written about his love of classical music elsewhere, at least in passing (IIRC he mentions Bach's St. Matthew Passion somewhere in The God Delusion).

Natalie Reed's implication that Dawkins picked Shakespeare and Schubert to "sound cultured" isn't just obnoxious and uncharitable—it's based on no evidence whatsoever.

Also, would the SJWs have preferred it if Dawkins had lied about his preferences? or if he'd appropriated chosen non-Westerners whose output he's had little or no exposure to, all in the name of tokenism diversity?
Dawkins says his favorites, and Natalie Reed accuses him of being a white supremacist who lied in order to make himself sound cultured.

If Dawkins had said his favorite artist was a black Jewish crippled lesbian feminist from a refugee camp in Botswana, Natalie Reed would have accused him of cultural appropriation and lying in order to make himself sound progressive.

Too late Dawkins! Natalie knows you're a rich privileged old white cis-dudebro who loves it when women get asked for coffee on elevators!

You CAN'T WIN!!!

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/annoying pedant mode ON :naughty:

Actually, to be a proper sonnet, one must keep the proper rhythm, meter, and scansion, to wit:
rhythm: the pattern of stressed and unstressed syllables in a line.
meter: the number of feet in a line.
scansion: Describing the rhythms of poetry by dividing the lines into feet, marking the locations of stressed and unstressed syllables, and counting the syllables.
And so, dear Ophie (and Myers, Zvan, Thimbledick, Reed, et al.):

I'll not compare thee to a summer’s day.
Thou art less lovely; more intemperate.
Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May,
And summer’s lease hath all too short a date.
Sometime too hot the eye of heaven shines,
And often is xis gold complexion dimmed;
And every fair from fair oft-times declines,
By chance, or nature’s changing course, untrimmed;
But thy eternal rot shall never fade,
Nor lose possession of that foul thou grow’st,
Yeah shall death brag thou wand’rest in his shade,
When in eternal lines to Time thou fade.
So long as men can breathe, or eyes can see,
So long lives this, which gives no life to thee.

/annoying pedant mode OFF :dance:

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ReneeHendricks wrote:
Guestus Aurelius wrote:Also, would the SJWs have preferred it if Dawkins had lied about his preferences? or if he'd appropriated chosen non-Westerners whose output he's had little or no exposure to, all in the name of tokenism diversity?
That was exactly my issue with her verbal vomit. He specifically said "for me" indicating personal preference. It was exactly as if Reed wanted Dawkins to just lie and put out token PoC artists that he knew practically nothing about.
:lol: "verbal vomit" :lol:

Alliterative, evocative, mellifluous, succinct. Like William Carlos Williams. Ripe for deconstruction. What does it mean?

I nominate you for #CosmicTombstone poet.

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John Greg wrote:/annoying pedant mode ON :naughty:

Actually, to be a proper sonnet, one must keep the proper rhythm, meter, and scansion, to wit:
rhythm: the pattern of stressed and unstressed syllables in a line.
meter: the number of feet in a line.
scansion: Describing the rhythms of poetry by dividing the lines into feet, marking the locations of stressed and unstressed syllables, and counting the syllables.
And so, dear Ophie (and Myers, Zvan, Thimbledick, Reed, et al.):

I'll not compare thee to a summer’s day.
Thou art less lovely; more intemperate.
Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May,
And summer’s lease hath all too short a date.
Sometime too hot the eye of heaven shines,
And often is xis gold complexion dimmed;
And every fair from fair oft-times declines,
By chance, or nature’s changing course, untrimmed;
But thy eternal rot shall never fade,
Nor lose possession of that foul thou grow’st,
Yeah shall death brag thou wand’rest in his shade,
When in eternal lines to Time thou fade.
So long as men can breathe, or eyes can see,
So long lives this, which gives no life to thee.

/annoying pedant mode OFF :dance:
You're my new favorite person online :D

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Guestus Aurelius wrote:
ReneeHendricks wrote:
Guestus Aurelius wrote:Also, would the SJWs have preferred it if Dawkins had lied about his preferences? or if he'd appropriated chosen non-Westerners whose output he's had little or no exposure to, all in the name of tokenism diversity?
That was exactly my issue with her verbal vomit. He specifically said "for me" indicating personal preference. It was exactly as if Reed wanted Dawkins to just lie and put out token PoC artists that he knew practically nothing about.
:lol: "verbal vomit" :lol:

Alliterative, evocative, mellifluous, succinct. Like William Carlos Williams. Ripe for deconstruction. What does it mean?

I nominate you for #CosmicTombstone poet.
LOL Yeah, nah. I do have an affinity for limericks:

Delusional

There once was a nutter quite frightful
Who spent so much time being spiteful
When confronted with truth
Completely debunking her sleuth
She barreled into delusions most delightful!

A Less Fictitious Life

There once was a gal most religious
Whose love for her god was prodigious
She looked deep inside
Found fallacies most wide
She now lives a life less fictitious

Door-to-Door Snake Oil Salesmen

(this one doesn't bounce as well as I'd like)

"Let's spread the word of the Lord!" they exclaimed
"Knocking on doors - surely none could be blamed!"
It's simply a matter of time
Up the walls we will climb
Our inevitable ire will thus be inflamed

Raptureless

Oh, there once was a man most pious
Who felt his predictions had no bias
Of rapture he spouted
While the world simply doubted
He simply ensnared the more gullible of us

Somehow I don't think a single one of these would make it to the #CosmicTombstone :D

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windy wrote:
Natalie Reed wrote: Also, like, you ask someone their favorite poet, novelist, artwork, band, composer and wine, and they say "Shakespeare, Stephen King, The Mona Lisa, The Beatles, Beethoven and Dom Perignon". [Y]ou don't think "Oh, this person must be educated and cultured!" You think ... This person is just saying what they think will make them sound cultured[.] ... If someone answers "Eileen Myles, Kathy Acker, The Bachelor St[r]ipped Bare, X-Ray Spex, Michael Nyman and Carlo Rossi!" then even if you don't like them, you AT LEAST assume they're being honest, and have a genuine passion for what they named.
Does she mean this artwork, by any chance?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bride_ ... lors,_Even

The best way to sound cultured is to mangle whatever it is you're trying to name-check...?
Or:

[youtube]d8mC98wgGag[/youtube]

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Tribble wrote:
AndrewV69 wrote: All I am getting out of this is that she is pissed off that men can pay for sex.

So can women:
A gigolo is a male escort or social companion who is supported by a woman in a continuing relationship,[1] often living in her residence or having to be present at her beck and call. The gigolo is expected to provide companionship, to serve as a consistent escort with good manners and social skills, and often, to serve as a dancing partner as required by the woman in exchange for the support (which is contrary to typical norms). Many gifts such as expensive clothing and an automobile to drive may be lavished upon him. The relationship may include sexual services as well, when he also would be referred to as "a kept man".[2]
You fucking sexist, you.
What has that got to do with Taslima being pissed off that men can pay for sex?

Perhaps you think she believes in equality?

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I just got "followed" by William Shakespeare on Twitter (presumably because I tweeted the word "Shakespeare" earlier today). Behold the Bard's most recent Tweet:
⸘Baboon‽

SHAKESPEARE IS AN EVIL SLYMEPITTER!!!

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There once was a dudebro named Dawkins
Well-known for his sciencey talkin's
Said he likes Schubert
SJWs got butthurt
Next time he'll just say "Coleman Hawkins"

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The degree of plain ordinary basic stupidity and mile-wide ignorance being expressed in the comments in Stefunny's latest anti-Dawkins post is fascinating. To wit (my emphasis), each separate quote equates to a separate person, and I didn't think links were necessary:
It took me a while to realize that Dawkins, and his friend, James Randi, are slymepitters.
No one quotes Shakespeare’s poetry.
Much as I love Shakespeare, it’s possible that Du Fu was a better poet. I wouldn’t know, because I don’t speak Chinese and am in no position to judge.
As Natalie Reed pointed out on Twitter: “Picking a SINGLE poet to represent human history is fucking hard. But don’t pick Shakespeare. Save him for the playwright category. I’m inclined to agree. I mean, did he ever write any poem that wasn’t in iambic pentameter? It’s really not the be all and end all of English poetry, much less all poetry ever.
Hornbeck's is a classic Dr. Hornbeckian modal thingy:
Wow. If Dawkins had one claim to fame over all the other “big-name” atheists that came before him, it was his “out” campaign. By encouraging atheists to stand up and be heard, at the end of “The God Delusion,” he was hoping to break through social taboos and end discrimination and the spread of misinformation against a minority that was frequently shat on. In other words, he pointed out to us that atheism was a social justice issue. So for him to turn around mock the concept of social justice, is, is…. self-mockery, really.
This list says do much about Dawkins worldview. First, why TWO scientists? Personally I’d keep Darwin and replace Einstein with MLK, Ghandi, Harriet Tubman etc.
You know what’s funny? I can’t stand Shakespeare. Yes, I’ve read him. I was always in honor and AP language arts classes because I’ve always read above my grade. I was reading to Kindergartners when I was in 1st grade, and by 2nd grade was in the 5th grade reading class. So I’ve read a good bit of Shakespeare and I frankly find him boring. I just don’t agree that he’s this “genius”. He was brilliant, yes… I actually love Hamlet. I think Hamlet is indeed a work of genius. But I’m not a fan at all. And frankly, my life will be better off if I never hear, see, or read any variation of Romeo and Juliet ever again.
I think the whole problem with the Shakespeare pick is his gross and blatant misogyny as expressed best in “The Taming of the Shrew”. Disgusting, repellent garbage. Mormons like it, though. Trivia.
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ReneeHendricks said:
You're my new favorite person online
Well, gosh. I blushes :oops: . How long will our new relationship last? And will Mr Hendricks come and smash me up?

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Guestus Aurelius wrote:There once was a dudebro named Dawkins
Well-known for his sciencey talkin's
Said he likes Schubert
SJWs got butthurt
Next time he'll just say "Coleman Hawkins"
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John Greg wrote:The degree of plain ordinary basic stupidity and mile-wide ignorance being expressed in the comments in Stefunny's latest anti-Dawkins post is fascinating. To wit (my emphasis), each separate quote equates to a separate person, and I didn't think links were necessary:
I think the whole problem with the Shakespeare pick is his gross and blatant misogyny as expressed best in “The Taming of the Shrew”. Disgusting, repellent garbage. Mormons like it, though. Trivia.
:clap:
This last one I have the biggest issue. Do these people not stop and think about the *TIMES* these things were written? Is it not possible that the writing *of the time* would reflect that period in time? Sign of the times, people. Sign of the times.

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AndrewV69 wrote:
Hunt wrote:Is this Taslima's version of a public service announcement?

http://freethoughtblogs.com/taslima/201 ... r-ramadan/
All I am getting out of this is that she is pissed off that men can pay for sex.
All I am getting out of this is that she is pissed off that men exist.

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John Greg wrote:ReneeHendricks said:
You're my new favorite person online
Well, gosh. I blushes :oops: . How long will our new relationship last? And will Mr Hendricks come and smash me up?
:D Actually it's a Mr. Kelly (need to see if I can get my nym changed to ReneeKelly).

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John Greg wrote:The degree of plain ordinary basic stupidity and mile-wide ignorance being expressed in the comments in Stefunny's latest anti-Dawkins post is fascinating. To wit (my emphasis), each separate quote equates to a separate person, and I didn't think links were necessary:
It took me a while to realize that Dawkins, and his friend, James Randi, are slymepitters.
No one quotes Shakespeare’s poetry.
Much as I love Shakespeare, it’s possible that Du Fu was a better poet. I wouldn’t know, because I don’t speak Chinese and am in no position to judge.
As Natalie Reed pointed out on Twitter: “Picking a SINGLE poet to represent human history is fucking hard. But don’t pick Shakespeare. Save him for the playwright category. I’m inclined to agree. I mean, did he ever write any poem that wasn’t in iambic pentameter? It’s really not the be all and end all of English poetry, much less all poetry ever.
Hornbeck's is a classic Dr. Hornbeckian modal thingy:
Wow. If Dawkins had one claim to fame over all the other “big-name” atheists that came before him, it was his “out” campaign. By encouraging atheists to stand up and be heard, at the end of “The God Delusion,” he was hoping to break through social taboos and end discrimination and the spread of misinformation against a minority that was frequently shat on. In other words, he pointed out to us that atheism was a social justice issue. So for him to turn around mock the concept of social justice, is, is…. self-mockery, really.
This list says do much about Dawkins worldview. First, why TWO scientists? Personally I’d keep Darwin and replace Einstein with MLK, Ghandi, Harriet Tubman etc.
You know what’s funny? I can’t stand Shakespeare. Yes, I’ve read him. I was always in honor and AP language arts classes because I’ve always read above my grade. I was reading to Kindergartners when I was in 1st grade, and by 2nd grade was in the 5th grade reading class. So I’ve read a good bit of Shakespeare and I frankly find him boring. I just don’t agree that he’s this “genius”. He was brilliant, yes… I actually love Hamlet. I think Hamlet is indeed a work of genius. But I’m not a fan at all. And frankly, my life will be better off if I never hear, see, or read any variation of Romeo and Juliet ever again.
I think the whole problem with the Shakespeare pick is his gross and blatant misogyny as expressed best in “The Taming of the Shrew”. Disgusting, repellent garbage. Mormons like it, though. Trivia.
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I think this post epitomises everything wrong FtB and their ilk. Hjornbeck's modality is just icing on the proverbial shit cake.

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OMG! How could I have missed this one from that uber-superduper-moron, Great American Satan:
You know what’s been more culturally relevant, enthralling, and historically significant than Schubert for like 30 years? The Super Mario Bros franchise. What’s had a deeper effect on more human psyches than anything on the list? Tetris.
Wheeeee! :dance:

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I think the whole problem with the Shakespeare pick is his gross and blatant misogyny as expressed best in “The Taming of the Shrew”. Disgusting, repellent garbage. Mormons like it, though. Trivia.
Shakespeare was a rapist dudebro cis scum. And Mormons are douchacanoes in need of a rusty porcupine. All of them. Although some think that Brigham Young was actually a transman. Trivia.
You know what’s been more culturally relevant, enthralling, and historically significant than Schubert for like 30 years? The Super Mario Bros franchise. What’s had a deeper effect on more human psyches than anything on the list? Tetris.
Don't deny his lived experience of Super Mario Bros and Tetris. I'm surprised he didn't mention Cheetos, though.

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John Greg wrote:The degree of plain ordinary basic stupidity and mile-wide ignorance being expressed in the comments in Stefunny's latest anti-Dawkins post is fascinating. To wit (my emphasis), each separate quote equates to a separate person, and I didn't think links were necessary:
It took me a while to realize that Dawkins, and his friend, James Randi, are slymepitters.
No one quotes Shakespeare’s poetry.
Much as I love Shakespeare, it’s possible that Du Fu was a better poet. I wouldn’t know, because I don’t speak Chinese and am in no position to judge.
As Natalie Reed pointed out on Twitter: “Picking a SINGLE poet to represent human history is fucking hard. But don’t pick Shakespeare. Save him for the playwright category. I’m inclined to agree. I mean, did he ever write any poem that wasn’t in iambic pentameter? It’s really not the be all and end all of English poetry, much less all poetry ever.
Hornbeck's is a classic Dr. Hornbeckian modal thingy:
Wow. If Dawkins had one claim to fame over all the other “big-name” atheists that came before him, it was his “out” campaign. By encouraging atheists to stand up and be heard, at the end of “The God Delusion,” he was hoping to break through social taboos and end discrimination and the spread of misinformation against a minority that was frequently shat on. In other words, he pointed out to us that atheism was a social justice issue. So for him to turn around mock the concept of social justice, is, is…. self-mockery, really.
This list says do much about Dawkins worldview. First, why TWO scientists? Personally I’d keep Darwin and replace Einstein with MLK, Ghandi, Harriet Tubman etc.
You know what’s funny? I can’t stand Shakespeare. Yes, I’ve read him. I was always in honor and AP language arts classes because I’ve always read above my grade. I was reading to Kindergartners when I was in 1st grade, and by 2nd grade was in the 5th grade reading class. So I’ve read a good bit of Shakespeare and I frankly find him boring. I just don’t agree that he’s this “genius”. He was brilliant, yes… I actually love Hamlet. I think Hamlet is indeed a work of genius. But I’m not a fan at all. And frankly, my life will be better off if I never hear, see, or read any variation of Romeo and Juliet ever again.
I think the whole problem with the Shakespeare pick is his gross and blatant misogyny as expressed best in “The Taming of the Shrew”. Disgusting, repellent garbage. Mormons like it, though. Trivia.
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Fucking hell. What is going on over there?

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John Greg wrote:OMG! How could I have missed this one from that uber-superduper-moron, Great American Satan:
You know what’s been more culturally relevant, enthralling, and historically significant than Schubert for like 30 years? The Super Mario Bros franchise. What’s had a deeper effect on more human psyches than anything on the list? Tetris.
Wheeeee! :dance:
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And, for what it's worth, I am amazed (and think it's very telling in regards their intellectual and emotional development) how many of the TFB baboonites praise and almost idolize K. Gibran! For fuck's sake, he was a pedestrian poet of deeply saccharine, juvenile, and highly woo-based, kiddie-style, feel-good poetry.

Blah-de-blah.

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There was a fair lassie named Zvan
Who fought the good fight 'gainst The Man
Got caught eating poop
Blamed it all on a 'shoop
And now still she's a mere also-ran.

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John Greg wrote:And, for what it's worth, I am amazed (and think it's very telling in regards their intellectual and emotional development) how many of the TFB baboonites praise and almost idolize K. Gibran! For fuck's sake, he was a pedestrian poet of deeply saccharine, juvenile, and highly woo-based, kiddie-style, feel-good poetry.

Blah-de-blah.
He's famous poet and he's not white. That practically makes him a FTB saint.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
AndrewV69 wrote:
Hunt wrote:Is this Taslima's version of a public service announcement?

http://freethoughtblogs.com/taslima/201 ... r-ramadan/
All I am getting out of this is that she is pissed off that men can pay for sex.
All I am getting out of this is that she is pissed off that men exist.
All I am getting out of this is that she is misrepresenting the news article she presents as if it's her source, and manages to side with Islamic fundamentalists rather than the women who work in the brothels (as far as their preferences are represented in the article TN linked).

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The Dolly brothel is closed for ramadan in Surabaya, an Indonesian city.

Muslims are asked to follow ramadan rules, no food, no drink, no smoke, no sex during daytime and have as much food, drink, smoke, sex as they want during nighttime.

Surabayan men are asked to be busy in a month-long food festival and fuck no prostitute during ramadan. But they are allowed to fuck prostitutes after the holy month. The Dolly brothel will reopen after ramadan.
The article she linked says:
Hundreds of police and soldiers have raided a huge red light district in Indonesia's second-biggest city, closing down brothels before the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.

Scuffles broke out briefly on Friday between security forces and people protesting the raid.

It took place in the area known as Dolly, in Surabaya on Indonesia's main Java island, where women advertise their services by sitting in brightly lit shop windows.

"The raid was conducted to make sure that entertainment centres, including brothels, are closed during the whole month of Ramadan," said Irvan Widyanto, a Surabaya official responsible for maintaining public order.

Ramadan, Islam's holiest month, begins on Sunday in Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim-majority country.

The faithful are supposed to abstain from eating, drinking and sex from dawn until dusk during Ramadan.

The raid came about a week after the city's mayor announced the closure of Dolly, but gave the prostitutes and pimps in the network of narrow alleys a few more weeks before the red-light district is finally closed.

The bid to close the area has sparked fierce resistance from sex workers and others whose jobs depend on the red-light district.

They have staged regular protests.


The government has pledged to give them financial assistance and training in new professions.

Some estimates put the number of police, soldiers and public order officers - who assist police in maintaining peace but have fewer powers - involved in Friday's raid at about 500.

Mr Widyanto says one large brothel in the area was closed down permanently.

Scuffles broke out when public order officers sought to take down banners condemning the closure of Dolly.

Islamic hardliners regularly carry out raids on bars and brothels during Ramadan.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
AndrewV69 wrote: All I am getting out of this is that she is pissed off that men can pay for sex.
All I am getting out of this is that she is pissed off that men exist.
Possibly. It did not stop her from fucking men though. She poached a bunch of them from all her Frenemies. Then she started ridiculing all the men she boffed and pissed them all off too.

*shrug*

Apparently she got a reputation in Bangladesh for "fucking like a man", then on to India and did the same there. Which is not a problem, trust me on this, a lot of men like sluts. They may not want to marry them but sex for free? Bring it on. Except, except she named names
When her recent book Dwikhondita (also known as Ka) came out I remember calling a book-store in New York in order to get a copy of the book.
The store owner told me enthusiastically: "In this book, Taslima has named all the writers she has slept with."
Have sex with her and chances are she will write about it, and you are not going to look too good either. The article I linked to fails to note that. Instead it talks about femal bodies and sex and male and yadda yadda yadda.

My guess is she is not getting laid too much these days. I wonder why? [/sarcasm]

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didymos wrote: Yes, Suey, people are laughing at you. You being a dipshit, you don't realize that's not a good thing. Well, for you.
Well well The Racist, Suey Park is a fucking moron what a complete absence of surprise.

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AndrewV69 wrote:
Tribble wrote:
AndrewV69 wrote: All I am getting out of this is that she is pissed off that men can pay for sex.

So can women:
A gigolo is a male escort or social companion who is supported by a woman in a continuing relationship,[1] often living in her residence or having to be present at her beck and call. The gigolo is expected to provide companionship, to serve as a consistent escort with good manners and social skills, and often, to serve as a dancing partner as required by the woman in exchange for the support (which is contrary to typical norms). Many gifts such as expensive clothing and an automobile to drive may be lavished upon him. The relationship may include sexual services as well, when he also would be referred to as "a kept man".[2]
You fucking sexist, you.
What has that got to do with Taslima being pissed off that men can pay for sex?

Perhaps you think she believes in equality?
It was a joke.

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Tony Parsehole wrote:Fucking hell. What is going on over there?
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Can I ask, given the contempt Mr "Natalie Reed" has for almost everyone that is not him, why do people still treat him with enough respect to call him "she"?

I'm not saying we should refer to all MtF transexuals as "Him", just him, and maybe that Zinane Jones bloke.

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John Greg wrote:And, for what it's worth, I am amazed (and think it's very telling in regards their intellectual and emotional development) how many of the TFB baboonites praise and almost idolize K. Gibran! For fuck's sake, he was a pedestrian poet of deeply saccharine, juvenile, and highly woo-based, kiddie-style, feel-good poetry.

Blah-de-blah.

Oh, he's the one at the end of nearly every tedious HS graduation. Blah, blah, blah... Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself. They come through you but not from .. Blah, blah, blah...

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Richard Dworkins wrote:Can I ask, given the contempt Mr "Natalie Reed" has for almost everyone that is not him, why do people still treat him with enough respect to call him "she"?

I'm not saying we should refer to all MtF transexuals as "Him", just him, and maybe that Zinane Jones bloke.
As a rule of thumb I'll call anyone "he" or "she" as they wish, but I won't waste time if they demand and stupid special snowflake pronouns. If you object to both "he" and "she" then you get the singular "they."

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Regarding Mr "Natalie Reed" twitter bollocks...

He is but a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

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Pitchguest wrote:
John Greg wrote:The degree of plain ordinary basic stupidity and mile-wide ignorance being expressed in the comments in Stefunny's latest anti-Dawkins post is fascinating. To wit (my emphasis), each separate quote equates to a separate person, and I didn't think links were necessary:

<bunch of quotes from Almost Diamonds snipped>

:clap:
I think this post epitomises everything wrong FtB and their ilk. Hjornbeck's modality is just icing on the proverbial shit cake.
It's gone from sidesplitting to facepalm to head-desk for me. It's not clear that any of them has actually gone to look at Dawkins' original tweet - they're reacting to Zvan's spin - to what she told them to react to.
WithinThisMind wrote:I wonder if Dawkins has ever actually read Shakespeare, or did he just pick Shakespeare because he sounded like the guy to pick? Even out of Western guys, I’m not sure I’d pick Shakespeare. <snip>

Tennyson, Wilbur, Emerson, Frost, Yeats, Woodsworth, Keats, Carroll, Poe, Franklin, Whitman, Coleridge, has Dawkins ever taken the Literature track at any school? I’m a goddamn STEM major and I can come up with a bunch of others off the top of my head, even just limiting it to Western dudes.
Lauren wrote:Why does Richard Dawson even get to pick the categories? Those dudes are fine, but the finest? For importance to me and my life, I’ll take Margaret Sanger any day. Dawkins couldn’t even imagine that she would belong to a category he would consider important.
Why does he "even get to pick the categories"? WTF? Could it be because he started the conversation on the topic, put forth his ideas and asked for others' ideas?

Tombstones stating anything beyond birth & death dates often don't seek to convey an even-handed representation of the thing that has ceased to be. I for one would have taken a different approach than naming the people I think reached the pinnacle of some field. I would propose something like this:
RIP Earth. Life arose here and flourished for a while, at least in the not-so-humble self-assessment of humans, who might have snuffed themselves out if the sun hadn't gone nova & done it for us.

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There once was a Hornbeck named HJ
Who reckoned he had a vajayjay:
"Boys and girls, you see,
They’re all the same to me"—
Even PeeZus just thought he was cray-cray.

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Considering that in Shakespeare's day all the women on stage were men in dresses that the transgenders would approve. There is just no pleasing some people. :snooty:

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welch wrote:
bhoytony wrote: Well X Ray Spex were slightly popular for ten minutes in 1978, so I hope she's got a tardis*



*I can't believe I made a Dr Who reference in this cesspit of nerds.
Finally looked them up on wikipedia. NOW I remember them. Yeah. they were a classic punk band. 1-2 songs, and done.

And Reed is such an ultra-poser. Really Nat?

Bet she's got a Poly t-shirt that she bought at hot topic.
Hang on, is Natalie saying X-ray Spex are better than the Beatles?

I mean, it's not like we needed any further evidence she was a moron, but...

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Cunt of Personality wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:Fucking hell. What is going on over there?
http://i.imgur.com/QiZJcJO.jpg
:lol:
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But I do not think you are a woman after your transition. Nor do I think you are a man after your transition. Because you are not. You are a born male or born female with either a mental illness, a dysphoria, a hermaphroditic condition, or an attention whore.

If understanding biology and science makes me a bigot, if understanding that the earth isn't fucking neverland and you can't just wish yourself out of fact, then I will gladly accept the label of bigot. Getting your dick chopped off and inverted makes you as much of a female as putting bleach and baby powder on my skin makes me caucasoid.

These people do not want tolerance. They want unwavering acceptance and validation of their delusion and I'm sorry but they will never, ever obtain that, no matter how much they try to silence people who disagree with them. Good luck and good lives to transpeople and I wish them all the best, I wish them love, health, happiness, and peace, but I'm not jumping down and clapping when fucking Jim the linebacker puts on a dress and heels and demands to use the bathroom with our daughters.
Hey all, this is probably my first time posting as a male here. I've been through a lot of therapy for most of my life and have had issues relating to people on a fundamental level and no one could ever explain why, and my parents would always try to find some reason or diagnosis for it and would constantly send me to therapists because they couldn't figure out what was wrong with me.

It's only until recently thanks to a really good therapist and more wisdom due to age that I've come to realize that I'm probably not trans, and my mother, my grandmother, and my family in general did a hell of a lot of damage. I grew up in a very conservative, catholic household and my family was very anti-LGBT and sexist, all kinds of horrible, and were adamant about me getting a girlfriend and being this macho man of a dude (which I've never really been but some of that might honestly not even be my fault). My parents have really fucked up parents also, (my mother's mother in particular) so that doesn't help much either.

I've never really talked about this with anyone, it's really hard to bring up and talk about and it's even harder to process, but I feel that it's important to all of this: My grandmother abused me when I was a child, probably several times. It's only now that I'm starting to piece it all together, the last couple of years, and it's incomprehensible the damage that did to me. I've tried to rationalize it, saying that I had feelings of being trans before she did anything, but the more I remember, the more I realize that she's been doing this for a while now. My parents used to let me sleep in the same bed as that person....

Not to mention, my family, ridiculous as they were, also hired prostitutes for me on three separate occasions. I was already scared and incredibly shy around women and those were some of the most terrifying experiences I've ever been through. I saw my cousin cheat on his wife too. My family is generally all around pretty fucking horrible.

I think in my 5 year old mind I thought that if I was a girl, my grandma would leave me alone. I used to cross-dress and I had no idea why I did it, I used to wish so much that I was a girl, I felt it would be so much better than my current existence. I used to cross-dress and I had no idea why I just felt like I had to and it made me feel better and I was incredibly shy around women but didn't want to be, but didn't know what the hell was going on with me.

It's taken me a REALLY long time to process all these feelings and it will probably take me a while before I'm actually completely cured. Pride is a hell of a thing.

I didn't want to be wrong and I felt really ashamed admitting that I might have screwed up and I might not be trans because I have a really dumb screwed up mind and I just want to say I'm really sorry and through all of this I've actually met legitimate trans people that definitely acted and looked as they said they are. I feel like some of this tumblr gender-special stuff can be really damaging especially to really entitled kids that don't know any better. I feel really ashamed to fuck up this badly and I'm really sorry and I'll probably need a while to sort all of these things out.
Only a small part of those who identify as trans actually have some sort of medically diagnosed body dysphoria (out of an already vanishingly small total number of trans overall, what is it? Like less than 0,1 percent of the population?). A majority of these people were likely abused as children, switching genders as an adult is just one way for them to deal with it. That's why so many trannies are utterly insane; they aren't treating the real issues. They'd rather put a Lisa Frank sticker over a sucking chest wound than do any real self reflection.

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didymos wrote: Yes, Suey, people are laughing at you. You being a dipshit, you don't realize that's not a good thing. Well, for you.
I can think of a few white men with similar abilities...

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screwtape wrote:
Steersman wrote: Indeed - seems that many of them react according to preprogrammed dogma rather than giving any critical thought to what is presented - formulaic in the extreme, the classic Orwellian "Four legs good, two legs bad".
Even more formulaic still when you remember it was originally reversed as the HGWellian "Two legs good, four legs bad" (The Island of Dr Moreau, 1896). But everything comes around again, as Squealer modified it again into "Four legs good, two legs better". I think the point is that you have to believe whatever it is fashionable to believe and memory-hole (G.O. again) the past.
Learn something new every day - certainly seems to be very little that is new under the sun.

Though I think that believing whatever is fashionable is, as they say, somewhat "problematic" - "conventional wisdom" (if y'all don't mind me adding a citation or two .... ;-) )

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Sunder wrote:
Richard Dworkins wrote:Can I ask, given the contempt Mr "Natalie Reed" has for almost everyone that is not him, why do people still treat him with enough respect to call him "she"?

I'm not saying we should refer to all MtF transexuals as "Him", just him, and maybe that Zinane Jones bloke.
As a rule of thumb I'll call anyone "he" or "she" as they wish, but I won't waste time if they demand and stupid special snowflake pronouns. If you object to both "he" and "she" then you get the singular "they."
Well I would imagine you do it out of civility yes?

If some bloke in your work came in with lipstick on and said, "hey you worthless hetero scum bag, I'm now a woman so you better start calling me "she" from now own you fucking stinking racist rape enabler" would you?

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All that stuff is from Something Sensitive forums incidentally. I see parrallels between them and the Slymepit, in that they are a forum created in reaction to yet another SJW takeover of a community. They are infinitely more trollish and overall terrible people though, granted. Outright racism, deliberate doxxing, etc. But they can have interesting insights as well. They're just like a 4chan/Something Awful hybrid or something.

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AndrewV69 wrote:
Steersman wrote: However, I find it hard to understand why you would actually try to believe in something which has so many obvious shortcomings and limitations; I mean it’s not like any of the some 100,000 anthropomorphic deities that mankind has believed in and sacrificed to – and frequently it’s other people who have been sacrificed to them – over the last 50 to 100 millennia has actually ever put in an appearance on the stage. Maybe we’re barking up the wrong tree? Maybe we should try believing in something else? Maybe even in humanity itself?
I was a child Steers. Literally, I was age seven when I tossed in the towel. My first holy communion, walking down the aisle with the certain knowledge that I believed in none of this.

Remember when you were that age?
So solly - didn't realize that you were referring to your younger self; maybe an understandable mistake given that you were talking about fasting for Ramadan. Which then raises the question as to why you would be taking part in a religious ritual that is largely or apparently predicated on the supposed existence of some anthropomorphic deity .... something does not compute ....

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Pitchguest wrote:
John Greg wrote:
You know what’s funny? I can’t stand Shakespeare. Yes, I’ve read him. I was always in honor and AP language arts classes because I’ve always read above my grade. I was reading to Kindergartners when I was in 1st grade, and by 2nd grade was in the 5th grade reading class. So I’ve read a good bit of Shakespeare and I frankly find him boring. I just don’t agree that he’s this “genius”. He was brilliant, yes… I actually love Hamlet. I think Hamlet is indeed a work of genius. But I’m not a fan at all. And frankly, my life will be better off if I never hear, see, or read any variation of Romeo and Juliet ever again.
I think the whole problem with the Shakespeare pick is his gross and blatant misogyny as expressed best in “The Taming of the Shrew”. Disgusting, repellent garbage. Mormons like it, though. Trivia.
:clap:
I think this post epitomises everything wrong FtB and their ilk. Hjornbeck's modality is just icing on the proverbial shit cake.
I think Taming of the Shrew is quite a problematic play, to be fair to Mrs Poo-Eater, but to judge Shakespeare by modern SJW standards reaches a level of idiocy I didn't think even she could manage. Besides, the ONLY reason she is now saying there is "a problem" with Shakespeare is because Dawkins is a fan. What next? Rejecting evolutionary biology because Dawkins likes Darwin?

What a risible prat.

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