Mykeru, what a Cnut, eh? Discuss.

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welch wrote:
didymos wrote:
Dave wrote:I believe its been mentioned before that her husband is a photographer, and there is a Ben Zvan photography in Minnesota. (Who's webpage includes a review by one Greg Laden.) So Im thinking shes using her real name.
Speaking of the other Zvan, he's having a great time on twitter defending Sarkeesian for yet again taking someone else's work and not bothering to ask or give credit.
He's such a tool. It doesn't matter that she did fan art based on Dragon's Lair. She did that work. You used it. Note that what Ben leaves off, or doesn't know, is that in general, as long as you're not a) making money from it b) acknowledge disney's copyrights and c) aren't doing things like porn et al with the characters, Disney is actually pretty cool with fan art. They know it's how they create new fans of the franchises. Friend of my wife's has been doing a silly webcomic with various franchises for years, but because she plays by the rules, no harm, no foul.

Sarkeesian has no leg to stand on here, and Zvan's "educational use" attempt is moronic. Here's the thing - what the original artist would seem to be happy with would have been for anita to have fucking ASKED. At least do that.

Most artists are more angry about that than anything. It's the assumption that it's okay. Well, no, you don't get to do that. You didn't make that. Fucking ask before you get grabby.
guess it was covered a bit. skipped over that comment because i thought it was only zvan-begging related, sorry

oh well, more details out there about a cool person

(not talking about any zvans, of course)

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De Lurch wrote:

Hmm... from her blog post it appears she is out of work. She appeared to have been employed back in 2009. Does anyone know about when she lost her job? Not that it really matters. I am just curious.
My recollection is that she quit her job last fall. Her reason was something to do with, long commute, sore back? She said something about spending more time writing? Was this shortly before she outed Christie Wilcox as an aggressive sexual harasser, making a big oops, then nearly stopping her blogging activity in shame when the truth came out?
I'm unsure about how accurate my memory is about this, maybe someone else that has the internet memorized might chime in.
Strawkins? :think:

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free thoughtpolice2 wrote:De Lurch wrote:

Hmm... from her blog post it appears she is out of work. She appeared to have been employed back in 2009. Does anyone know about when she lost her job? Not that it really matters. I am just curious.
My recollection is that she quit her job last fall. Her reason was something to do with, long commute, sore back? She said something about spending more time writing? Was this shortly before she outed Christie Wilcox as an aggressive sexual harasser, making a big oops, then nearly stopping her blogging activity in shame when the truth came out?
I'm unsure about how accurate my memory is about this, maybe someone else that has the internet memorized might chime in.
Strawkins? :think:
As far as I can recall the Christie Wilcox debacle came before any talk of Zvan's unemployment.

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zenbabe wrote:
BarnOwl wrote:Re the tarantulas in the toilet: that is a not-uncommon occurrence here, particularly for toilets that are located in a barn, a public park, a trailer, or an outbuilding on rural property. If you're urogenitally-equipped such that you usually sit down to pee, you always lift the toilet seat and check for tarantulas (and other critters, such as bark scorpions and black widow spiders) before sitting down. Unlike the other two I mentioned, tarantulas are mostly harmless, but I still don't want one crawling across my perineum. :shock:
My moderate arachnophobia is so fucking triggered right now!...

[.youtube]JWpz2OYf1QU[/youtube]

yeeeeeeeesh!
Thanks to you and DeLurch and neither of you goddamn trigger warning, not that I could do much about it if you did, since nothing can be hidden unless I block either of you which is just no way hose-ay gonna happen.
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Interesting how many FTBloggers and Skepchicks are unemployed, unemployable, making their living through professional victimhood/atheist feminism, or are living on disability and other government monies.

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James Caruthers wrote:Interesting how many FTBloggers and Skepchicks are unemployed, unemployable, making their living through professional victimhood/atheist feminism, or are living on disability and other government monies.
The really ironic thing is that the only one of them that seems productive, meaning not entirely parasitic on drama they self generate, is Surly Amy with her Surlyramics business. She makes money from selling to skeptics but she also sells to non skeptics and does things like coordinated wedding 'jewellery' which can be for anyone.

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Lsuoma wrote:
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BarnOwl wrote:Re the tarantulas in the toilet: that is a not-uncommon occurrence here, particularly for toilets that are located in a barn, a public park, a trailer, or an outbuilding on rural property. If you're urogenitally-equipped such that you usually sit down to pee, you always lift the toilet seat and check for tarantulas (and other critters, such as bark scorpions and black widow spiders) before sitting down. Unlike the other two I mentioned, tarantulas are mostly harmless, but I still don't want one crawling across my perineum. :shock:
My moderate arachnophobia is so fucking triggered right now!...

[.youtube]JWpz2OYf1QU[/youtube]

yeeeeeeeesh!
Thanks to you and DeLurch and neither of you goddamn trigger warning, not that I could do much about it if you did, since nothing can be hidden unless I block either of you which is just no way hose-ay gonna happen.
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:shock: :lol:

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AndrewV69 wrote:
Guestus Aurelius wrote:Skep tickle is a fucking moron with precious sensibilities.

Howard Zinn, motherfucker.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/hetpat/2014 ... ment-51530
Too late to see the comment as sirtooting is toast:
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sirtooting .

March 7, 2014 at 11:55 am (UTC 0)

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And after trying my patience once too often with repeated and flagrant breaches of our agreed commenting guidelines, sirtooting has been banned from this blog.

Apologies if that kills any ongoing conversations.

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I didn’t find it particularly odious, although I wasn’t the one targeted. But I expect, from Ally’s comment, that it was more of a “final straw” from “Tootsie” than anything else, particularly as he seems to have let slide my "fucking idiot" directed at HJ. From my e-mail notification:
Author: sirtooting .
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'@ STEP TICTANK
Google it, you fucking moron, and save your precious sensibilities for somebody with enough head trauma to tolerate your inane willful ignorance.

It matters enough to males to never be referred to as a she .. .. Hey you gals .. it is the last thing the male wants to hear .. He regards it as an insult .. but Hey you guys .. is an OK way for him to refer to her in his book ..

Hey we are all one of the boys .. but we ain't never going to be ..One of the gals ..
Our sensibilities wouldn't tolerate it, we have our identity to consider ..

The stolen identity must be returned in full ..

It is possible, reading standard histories, to forget half the population of the country. The explorers were men, the landholders and merchants men, the political leaders men, the military figures men. The very invisibility of women, the overlooking of women, is a sign of their submerged status.

HOWARD ZINN
I can sort of sympathize with his “umbrage” over the fact that women have generally not been given “top billing” or even equal billing. Which manifests itself in rather problematic ways; I posted a link in, I think, one of Ashley Miller’s threads to a website listing women mathematicians over the centuries as a way of disabusing some MRA’s “confusion” on the point. But I would have suggested to Howard that it is quite probable that a rather large part of the reason for that has been that “biology is destiny”, something that seems to weigh rather more heavily on women than men – at least up until the development of birth control technologies.

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OK ... here is how you make the world a better place ... one day at a time.

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Dick Strawkins wrote:
James Caruthers wrote:Interesting how many FTBloggers and Skepchicks are unemployed, unemployable, making their living through professional victimhood/atheist feminism, or are living on disability and other government monies.
The really ironic thing is that the only one of them that seems productive, meaning not entirely parasitic on drama they self generate, is Surly Amy with her Surlyramics business. She makes money from selling to skeptics but she also sells to non skeptics and does things like coordinated wedding 'jewellery' which can be for anyone.
If I'm not mistaken RW is behind this: http://skepticalrobot.com/

It appears to be a brand of t-shirts and cheap plastic trinkets for skeptics who are also hipster douchebags.

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BillHamp wrote:
Git wrote:
BillHamp wrote:One of these assholes has a parent, friend, lover, or patron at the BBC. They have to. THe issue simply isn't that big that it warrants the kind of coverage the BBC gives it. What is more, they always go to interview people who are on the fringes of the debate. They never pull in people with real degrees who have done real research into the area. Instead, they pull in people like Marcotte who offer nothing but opinion. This alone has been enough for me to scrub my hands of the BBC. There is simply no objectivity in their reporting and no effort to bring evidence or research into the fold. I'm get the strong impression that this is nepotism/favoritism/the result of knowing someone...though I certainly can't prove it.
The truth is simpler than that. The BBC is effectively the broadcast wing of the Guardian, with the Guardian being the house organ of the BBC. The two exchange staff and resources at a hideously inbred-rate. Marcotte et al were big chums with the Guardian, and hence now with the BBC...because they are basically the same people.
Thanks. I knew something was not right, but don't have the insight into the BBC to know.
I wouldn't take it as true just because a known hater of both the Grauniad and the Beeb says it is so.

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From Skeptical Robot :

http://skepticalrobot.com/files/2014/02 ... 47x300.jpg

Why am I not surprised that this is being sold by a skepchick? I wonder if there is a stoneware version from shittyramics...

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Some Lurker wrote:An Update on the stolen art thing
http://cowkitty.net/post/78869649107/up ... rt-an-open
Cowkitty wrote:Do you think the big shops in the industry are corrupted and biased, and won’t support your great idea?

Make your own games. Learn programming, story telling, illustration, gamification, and more. Resources are out there. Open Source community and some sweat can get you there. There is literally NOTHING stopping you other than yourself. You can learn, create, and self-publish easily now. Do it yourself, and prove that there’s a market for the game you want to play. Proof is what changes opinions.

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bhoytony wrote: I wouldn't take it as true just because a known hater of both the Grauniad and the Beeb says it is so.
Nobody lies, or talks total shit on the internet.

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Here we go

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And Away We Go!

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Whoops. Ninjaed, sort of.

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cunt wrote:
bhoytony wrote: I wouldn't take it as true just because a known hater of both the Grauniad and the Beeb says it is so.
Nobody lies, or talks total shit on the internet.
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Apples wrote:
cunt wrote:
bhoytony wrote: I wouldn't take it as true just because a known hater of both the Grauniad and the Beeb says it is so.
Nobody lies, or talks total shit on the internet.
http://pmctvline2.files.wordpress.com/2 ... .jpg?w=625
Who's that?

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LEAVE ME ALONE! I HATE YOU MUM! AND EVERYBODY ELSE!

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Ok dude, sorry to bother you. I had no idea.

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Old_ones wrote:
Dick Strawkins wrote:
James Caruthers wrote:Interesting how many FTBloggers and Skepchicks are unemployed, unemployable, making their living through professional victimhood/atheist feminism, or are living on disability and other government monies.
The really ironic thing is that the only one of them that seems productive, meaning not entirely parasitic on drama they self generate, is Surly Amy with her Surlyramics business. She makes money from selling to skeptics but she also sells to non skeptics and does things like coordinated wedding 'jewellery' which can be for anyone.
If I'm not mistaken RW is behind this: http://skepticalrobot.com/

It appears to be a brand of t-shirts and cheap plastic trinkets for skeptics who are also hipster douchebags.
That's Watsons online store alright but I doubt it's a major source of income for her. They don't really have that many items for sale and many of them seem to be either resales of other geeks sourced materis (for example the bigfoot stuff) where there's not going to be much of a profit, or sales of stuff for her friends like George Hrab or Myers.

In relation to Myers items, I've a question about this T-shirt:

http://i.imgur.com/0p1YFHL.jpg

Isn't that an octopus rather than a cuttlefish?

A cuttlefish looks more like this:

http://i.imgur.com/CrDGhCD.jpg

or as seen in the logo of FTBs own 'Digital Cuttlefish'

http://freethoughtblogs.com/cuttlefish/

In contrast to the octopus, the legs of a cuttlefish are shorter compared to its body, which tends to be flat (and contains the characteristic chalky cuttlefish 'bone') and is skirted by a type of wavy fin.

Any cephalopod experts out there?

Maybe I'll go ask PZ himself.
If I'm correct, he, being a scientist and lover of truth, will no doubt thank me and immediately change the title.
:whistle:

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Oh shit, they named a t-shirt "cuttlefish" when its obviously an octopus. Touchdown!


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Steersman wrote:From my e-mail notification:
Author: sirtooting .
Comment:
'@ STEP TICTANK
Google it, you fucking moron, and save your precious sensibilities for somebody with enough head trauma to tolerate your inane willful ignorance.

It matters enough to males to never be referred to as a she .. .. Hey you gals .. it is the last thing the male wants to hear .. He regards it as an insult .. but Hey you guys .. is an OK way for him to refer to her in his book ..

Hey we are all one of the boys .. but we ain't never going to be ..One of the gals ..
Our sensibilities wouldn't tolerate it, we have our identity to consider ..

The stolen identity must be returned in full ..

It is possible, reading standard histories, to forget half the population of the country. The explorers were men, the landholders and merchants men, the political leaders men, the military figures men. The very invisibility of women, the overlooking of women, is a sign of their submerged status.

HOWARD ZINN
I can sort of sympathize with his “umbrage” over the fact that women have generally not been given “top billing” or even equal billing. Which manifests itself in rather problematic ways; I posted a link in, I think, one of Ashley Miller’s threads to a website listing women mathematicians over the centuries as a way of disabusing some MRA’s “confusion” on the point. But I would have suggested to Howard that it is quite probable that a rather large part of the reason for that has been that “biology is destiny”, something that seems to weigh rather more heavily on women than men – at least up until the development of birth control technologies.
At the risk of advertising that I didn't notice your tongued cheek: you know who Howard Zinn is, yes?

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James Caruthers wrote:
welch wrote:Oh, and Rebecca, Harlan Ellison thinks you're an asshole too:

[youtube]mj5IV23g-fE[/youtube]
Of course, in the case of Skepchick, they always make it seem they really are out there on the streets with their tin cup and glass eye. :lol:

Even a smallish blog network like skepchick should be able to pay a little. Fuck, if not the writers, pay for editors. I'm so sick of reading blog posts and "articles" on these internet networks that have clearly gone unedited. You'll see an organization post a news story, then a bunch of the comments point out all of the typos and mistakes, so the news company edits them out (thanks for doing free work in the comments, readers!) and updates the article. Pretty shameless.

Sort of like companies releasing computer games in alpha state and essentially making people pay to playtest their games. Steam Greenlight, anyone? Because why pay for professionals to do the job right when your customer base will offer to do it for free. :roll:

If you can afford to pay your bandwidth bills, you can throw a fifty to the writer or something.

But don't tell me "exposure". People die of "exposure" so forgive me if I'm not a big fan of it.

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Yeah, fuck exposure. That said, i've not seen any evidence that Watson doesn't pay her writers. I mean, you'd think they'd get pissed of that.

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cunt wrote:Yeah, fuck exposure. That said, i've not seen any evidence that Watson doesn't pay her writers. I mean, you'd think they'd get pissed of that.
I know you like to just be a contrary fuck, but you could at least put a little effort into it. From the post about this position:
The positions are not paid, but you will get more recognition, the chance to talk about your disability, make the world a better place, and be part of a kick-ass international network.

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Some Lurker wrote:An Update on the stolen art thing
http://cowkitty.net/post/78869649107/up ... rt-an-open
That is an awesome response.

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Dick Strawkins wrote:
Old_ones wrote:
Dick Strawkins wrote:
The really ironic thing is that the only one of them that seems productive, meaning not entirely parasitic on drama they self generate, is Surly Amy with her Surlyramics business. She makes money from selling to skeptics but she also sells to non skeptics and does things like coordinated wedding 'jewellery' which can be for anyone.
If I'm not mistaken RW is behind this: http://skepticalrobot.com/

It appears to be a brand of t-shirts and cheap plastic trinkets for skeptics who are also hipster douchebags.
That's Watsons online store alright but I doubt it's a major source of income for her.
Fair point.


In relation to Myers items, I've a question about this T-shirt:

http://i.imgur.com/0p1YFHL.jpg

Isn't that an octopus rather than a cuttlefish?

A cuttlefish looks more like this:

http://i.imgur.com/CrDGhCD.jpg

or as seen in the logo of FTBs own 'Digital Cuttlefish'

http://freethoughtblogs.com/cuttlefish/

In contrast to the octopus, the legs of a cuttlefish are shorter compared to its body, which tends to be flat (and contains the characteristic chalky cuttlefish 'bone') and is skirted by a type of wavy fin.

Any cephalopod experts out there?

Maybe I'll go ask PZ himself.
If I'm correct, he, being a scientist and lover of truth, will no doubt thank me and immediately change the title.
:whistle:
It looks like an octopus to me, but I'm a chemist. I have no expertise in slimy things that also have the power to move of their own volition. I can tell the difference between poly(vinyl alcohol) and poly(ethylene glycol) if that helps...

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cunt wrote:Yeah, fuck exposure. That said, i've not seen any evidence that Watson doesn't pay her writers. I mean, you'd think they'd get pissed of that.
You'd be surprised how many buy into it. They write and bank on that exposure, and then discover that what they've done is told the world "I will work for free". Well, once you've done that, the world tends to respond in kind. "Here, have some exposure". And you discover that it's not really all that great.

The RIGHT exposure can be of use, but you can get that far better, if you aren't at a stage where you can write for pay yet, by setting up your own site, writing good stuff, and getting people running better known sites to link to you. That's how Gruber turned Daring Fireball into a serious moneymaker, and himself into one of the few people who get advanced looks at Apple products. Now, I think Gruber's annoying as hell, but he is a successful writer.

He did not get that way by writing for a third-rate blogging network for free, waiting for the magic money fairies to hand him a living.

If you don't care about getting paid, because you have a gig, and you just want an occasional outlet, then again, why write for skepchick, or really anyone else? Write good stuff on your own site, tell people about it, ask them to spread the word if they like it themselves. There's nothing Skepchick will do for you that will avail you any better than that, and given how that site is run and by whom, there's a good chance it will cause you more problems than it solves.

The biggest mistake new writers make is in thinking sites like Skepchick will give them something they can't get on their own.

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Guestus Aurelius wrote:
Steersman wrote:From my e-mail notification:
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I can sort of sympathize with his “umbrage” over the fact that women have generally not been given “top billing” or even equal billing. Which manifests itself in rather problematic ways; I posted a link in, I think, one of Ashley Miller’s threads to a website listing women mathematicians over the centuries as a way of disabusing some MRA’s “confusion” on the point. But I would have suggested to Howard that it is quite probable that a rather large part of the reason for that has been that “biology is destiny”, something that seems to weigh rather more heavily on women than men – at least up until the development of birth control technologies.
At the risk of advertising that I didn't notice your tongued cheek: you know who Howard Zinn is, yes?
Learn something new everyday - I'd "assumed" that Zinn was sirtooting but Wikipedia suggests otherwise - unless he is speaking from the grave. Probably should have known given that "sirtooting" seems to be "HTML formatting & quoting"-challenged and "underprivileged"....

But "tongued cheek"? I assume you mean the "MRA's confusion"?

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Dave wrote:
cunt wrote:Yeah, fuck exposure. That said, i've not seen any evidence that Watson doesn't pay her writers. I mean, you'd think they'd get pissed of that.
I know you like to just be a contrary fuck, but you could at least put a little effort into it. From the post about this position:
The positions are not paid, but you will get more recognition, the chance to talk about your disability, make the world a better place, and be part of a kick-ass international network.
"kick-ass international network"

BAAAHAHAHAHAHA

Yeah, because otherwise, the Internet won't let people in other countries see your work.

Christ, I weep that people fall for this kind of shit.

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Dave wrote:
cunt wrote:Yeah, fuck exposure. That said, i've not seen any evidence that Watson doesn't pay her writers. I mean, you'd think they'd get pissed of that.
I know you like to just be a contrary fuck, but you could at least put a little effort into it. From the post about this position:
The positions are not paid, but you will get more recognition, the chance to talk about your disability, make the world a better place, and be part of a kick-ass international network.
"kick-ass international network"

BAAAHAHAHAHAHA

Yeah, because otherwise, the Internet won't let people in other countries see your work.

Christ, I weep that people fall for this kind of shit.

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cunt wrote:
bhoytony wrote: I wouldn't take it as true just because a known hater of both the Grauniad and the Beeb says it is so.
Nobody lies, or talks total shit on the internet.
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cunt wrote:
bhoytony wrote: I wouldn't take it as true just because a known hater of both the Grauniad and the Beeb says it is so.
Nobody lies, or talks total shit on the internet.
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Steersman wrote:
AndrewV69 wrote:
Guestus Aurelius wrote:Skep tickle is a fucking moron with precious sensibilities.

Howard Zinn, motherfucker.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/hetpat/2014 ... ment-51530
Too late to see the comment as sirtooting is toast:
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And after trying my patience once too often with repeated and flagrant breaches of our agreed commenting guidelines, sirtooting has been banned from this blog.

Apologies if that kills any ongoing conversations.

Ally Fogg
I didn’t find it particularly odious, although I wasn’t the one targeted. But I expect, from Ally’s comment, that it was more of a “final straw” from “Tootsie” than anything else, particularly as he seems to have let slide my "fucking idiot" directed at HJ. From my e-mail notification:
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'@ STEP TICTANK
Google it, you fucking moron, and save your precious sensibilities for somebody with enough head trauma to tolerate your inane willful ignorance.

It matters enough to males to never be referred to as a she .. .. Hey you gals .. it is the last thing the male wants to hear .. He regards it as an insult .. but Hey you guys .. is an OK way for him to refer to her in his book ..

Hey we are all one of the boys .. but we ain't never going to be ..One of the gals ..
Our sensibilities wouldn't tolerate it, we have our identity to consider ..

The stolen identity must be returned in full ..

It is possible, reading standard histories, to forget half the population of the country. The explorers were men, the landholders and merchants men, the political leaders men, the military figures men. The very invisibility of women, the overlooking of women, is a sign of their submerged status.

HOWARD ZINN
I can sort of sympathize with his “umbrage” over the fact that women have generally not been given “top billing” or even equal billing. Which manifests itself in rather problematic ways; I posted a link in, I think, one of Ashley Miller’s threads to a website listing women mathematicians over the centuries as a way of disabusing some MRA’s “confusion” on the point. But I would have suggested to Howard that it is quite probable that a rather large part of the reason for that has been that “biology is destiny”, something that seems to weigh rather more heavily on women than men – at least up until the development of birth control technologies.
As as stay at home dad I am often considered "one of the moms". Sometimes it irks me (I prefer the word "parent") but it also irks me when people call girls and women "guys". (I even think I commented about this here in the past). Anyway in my little world life revolves around my three daughters. So when I'm calling out to groups of people it's almost always "Girls!". /whatever (SJW mode: way to erase my experiences!!)

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welch wrote:
cunt wrote:Yeah, fuck exposure. That said, i've not seen any evidence that Watson doesn't pay her writers. I mean, you'd think they'd get pissed of that.
You'd be surprised how many buy into it. They write and bank on that exposure, and then discover that what they've done is told the world "I will work for free". Well, once you've done that, the world tends to respond in kind. "Here, have some exposure". And you discover that it's not really all that great.

The RIGHT exposure can be of use, but you can get that far better, if you aren't at a stage where you can write for pay yet, by setting up your own site, writing good stuff, and getting people running better known sites to link to you. That's how Gruber turned Daring Fireball into a serious moneymaker, and himself into one of the few people who get advanced looks at Apple products. Now, I think Gruber's annoying as hell, but he is a successful writer.

He did not get that way by writing for a third-rate blogging network for free, waiting for the magic money fairies to hand him a living.

If you don't care about getting paid, because you have a gig, and you just want an occasional outlet, then again, why write for skepchick, or really anyone else? Write good stuff on your own site, tell people about it, ask them to spread the word if they like it themselves. There's nothing Skepchick will do for you that will avail you any better than that, and given how that site is run and by whom, there's a good chance it will cause you more problems than it solves.

The biggest mistake new writers make is in thinking sites like Skepchick will give them something they can't get on their own.
I'd say it could probably get them a few more page-views. If you're going to do it for free anyway its not a horrible deal.

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There is cliché. We can make a platitude.

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Welp,

I finally got round to reading the comments over at Ally Fogg and paused here ...

All I have to say is that I thought I was patient ... but you guys take the prize in dealing with hj 'a legend in his own mind' hornbeck.

I am sincerely impressed.

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Ruh Roh, Scooby.
That doesn't look good for Anita and the rest of her multilevel marketingfeminist outreach company.

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JackSkeptic wrote:
deLurch wrote:
LandSnark wrote:[youtube]8i-1vp80nXg[/youtube]

So this is happening.

Must admit that I have some very mixed feelings about having this three promoting Atheism.....not sure Atheism should be the focus here but since all three of these numpties aren't great critical thinkers I guess they have to choose one bandwagon to sperg about.
From the video's about:
Video in Question's-About wrote:as a humorous introduction to the live show, we'd like you to submit short video clips fabricating stories about how you were first introduced to them and/or their work.
As funny as it would be to riff off of this, I just don't have the time.
I think all three of them will do a good job. At least they are doing something rather than moaning on a forum.
Ho do fuck off, they are ideologues, how old are you and do you remember how high the bodies piled up last time fuckwits like them had political power. We still don't have accurate numbers even now, we might over or under estimate the dead bodies by a couple of million. We are lucky that the atheist 'community' had enough skeptics to make these clownshoes redundant. I have always preferred the 'organic' growth of atheism in Europe' to the evangelical propagation of American atheists as they were always prone to cult worship.

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When did Anita Sarkeesian / Feminist Frequency claim to be a non-profit.

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Steersman wrote:
Guestus Aurelius wrote:
Steersman wrote:From my e-mail notification:
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I can sort of sympathize with his “umbrage” over the fact that women have generally not been given “top billing” or even equal billing. Which manifests itself in rather problematic ways; I posted a link in, I think, one of Ashley Miller’s threads to a website listing women mathematicians over the centuries as a way of disabusing some MRA’s “confusion” on the point. But I would have suggested to Howard that it is quite probable that a rather large part of the reason for that has been that “biology is destiny”, something that seems to weigh rather more heavily on women than men – at least up until the development of birth control technologies.
At the risk of advertising that I didn't notice your tongued cheek: you know who Howard Zinn is, yes?
But "tongued cheek"? I assume you mean the "MRA's confusion"?
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DaveDodo007 wrote:
Ho do fuck off, they are ideologues, how old are you and do you remember how high the bodies piled up last time fuckwits like them had political power. We still don't have accurate numbers even now, we might over or under estimate the dead bodies by a couple of million. We are lucky that the atheist 'community' had enough skeptics to make these clownshoes redundant. I have always preferred the 'organic' growth of atheism in Europe' to the evangelical propagation of American atheists as they were always prone to cult worship.
Possibly the funniest post ever on this site. "do you remember how high the bodies piled up?" Fuck me sideways.

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debaser71 wrote: ... it also irks me when people call girls and women "guys".
I'm not sure, but I think this gender-neutral use of "guys" and "you guys" is something that varies regionally.

It's too bad that so many people snub their noses at "y'all"—a damn useful word, I'd say.

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Really? wrote:Ruh Roh, Scooby.
That doesn't look good for Anita and the rest of her multilevel marketingfeminist outreach company.
I don't think that shows what they think it shows.

I don't believe there is a difference in California in a for profit corp vs. a non profit corp based on the corporate filing. To turn a corp non profit you need an additional form:

http://i.imgur.com/REtSGYV.jpg

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Really? wrote:Ruh Roh, Scooby.
That doesn't look good for Anita and the rest of her multilevel marketingfeminist outreach company.
Doesnt mean shit. Of course its a corporation. Is it a non-profit corporation? Thats a separate application to the IRS.

From the IRS website:
First Things First. Does The Organization Have an Appropriate Legal Form?
For the Internal Revenue Service (the IRS) to recognize an organization's exemption, the organization must be organized as a trust, a corporation, or an association.

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cunt wrote:When did Anita Sarkeesian / Feminist Frequency claim to be a non-profit.
One of the defenses Sarkeesian or her representative seems to have made today in private response to cowkitty is that fem freq is non profit.

http://cowkitty.net/post/78869649107/up ... rt-an-open

I think it's also the case you can be a non profit in Cali w/o being a 501(c)(3) non profit in Cali.

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AndrewV69 wrote:OK ... here is how you make the world a better place ... one day at a time.

[youtube]F1wWhLzDRIY[/youtube]
Yeah, but I bet if that old lady had been wearing a "I feel safe and welcome at TAM" t-shirt, all bets would have been off.

Seriously though, those kids and that old lady showed more positivity and humanity than the dreary morons at FtB/A+/Skepchick will collectively exhibit in their entire miserable lives. And they did it without whining about others, or bashing people for supposed "negativity" in order to prop themselves up.

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bhoytony wrote:
BillHamp wrote:
Git wrote: The truth is simpler than that. The BBC is effectively the broadcast wing of the Guardian, with the Guardian being the house organ of the BBC. The two exchange staff and resources at a hideously inbred-rate. Marcotte et al were big chums with the Guardian, and hence now with the BBC...because they are basically the same people.
Thanks. I knew something was not right, but don't have the insight into the BBC to know.
I wouldn't take it as true just because a known hater of both the Grauniad and the Beeb says it is so.
A very good point. Though I can observe for myself that the BBC has a serious bias in its reporting of certain events (just as many other news agencies do) and work from there. I took the reponse only to mean only that the BBC and the Guardian are similar in the behavior and since the Guardian ran with Marcotte's stuff, it isn't suprising that the BBC does as well. I didn't assume that it in some way confirmed my earlier speculation, which was just that, speculation.

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JacquesCuze wrote:
cunt wrote:When did Anita Sarkeesian / Feminist Frequency claim to be a non-profit.
One of the defenses Sarkeesian or her representative seems to have made today in private response to cowkitty is that fem freq is non profit.

http://cowkitty.net/post/78869649107/up ... rt-an-open

I think it's also the case you can be a non profit in Cali w/o being a 501(c)(3) non profit in Cali.
Well shut my mouth. I doubt that'll fall under "fair use" even if FF is non-profit.

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I think pretty much everyone is confused, including me.

Also, I think Sarkeesian is in the wrong here, if not legally than both ethically and in the fault of her logic.

But in my decades on the net, I have been assured it's not copyright theft, it's copyright infringement. Civil. Not criminal.

Perhaps one way of looking at this is that if I infringe Disney's copyright in my reproduction of Goofy, it doesn't mean that Sarkeesian can infringe my copyright by printing my version of Goofy. These are separate infringements with differing penalties. If I haven't transformed Goofy enough, Sarkeesian would presumably be infringing Disney's copyright. If I have transformed my Goofy enough, Sarkeesian is probably infringing both my copyright AND Disney's.

But who the fuck knows, this is the shit that lawyers love since they make millions finding angels on pinheads.

Regardless, when you take from an artist and that artist says "Credit me", you don't first yell "Fair Use". You first say, "I made a mistake by not crediting the artists I used in my compilation. Thanks go to CowKitty for her rendition of Prince Daphne." And then you say "which we believe we are using under fair use principles."

Logically though, if Sarkeesian is commenting on Don Bluth's Princess Daphne, she should be using Don Bluth's Princess Daphne, not CowKitty's version. If she is using CowKitty's version she should explain how her commentary builds on top of, or contrasts with CowKitty's commentary.

What I suspect happened is she googled Princess Daphne and "stole" an image of the right size and quality and never considered some of it was Don Bluth's official Princess Daphne and some was just fan art.

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Jan Steen wrote: You should read a bit about the Red Queen Hypothesis.
I happen to be reading Matt Ridley's Red Queen at the moment. If young master Hornbeck had the reading skills to get into it he would realise that we are talking about far far more than social constructs.

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I don't give that much of a shit.

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debaser71 wrote:...it also irks me when people call girls and women "guys". (I even think I commented about this here in the past).
Nah, guys is men and women, boys, girls, an hornbecks.

I have two daughters and often called them in or told them to get ready by saying "Come on guys, let's go..." "Come on guys, time for ..."

Also, Joyce Hyser.

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cunt wrote:
JacquesCuze wrote:
cunt wrote:When did Anita Sarkeesian / Feminist Frequency claim to be a non-profit.
One of the defenses Sarkeesian or her representative seems to have made today in private response to cowkitty is that fem freq is non profit.

http://cowkitty.net/post/78869649107/up ... rt-an-open

I think it's also the case you can be a non profit in Cali w/o being a 501(c)(3) non profit in Cali.
Well shut my mouth. I doubt that'll fall under "fair use" even if FF is non-profit.
Yeah.

A for profit company can still use "fair use" if they do it right, even if they still make a profit. A non-profit can still infringe and be denied a "fair use" defense if they do it wrong.

I am not a lawyer. I myself don't think that Sarkeesian's "stealing" 20 images and pasting them together with no other transformation makes for the fair use "montage" she claims, I think that just makes her an asshole who doesn't give a shit about copyright and then tries to rationalize it. I would like an IP lawyer explain why sampling music or other audio is okay, but I suspect what "transforms" that are the other elements of the arrangement. Time, length, volume, how much is sampled, how it contrasts or complements the other sampled elements, and any original elements from the artist doing the sampling.

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Didn't someone suggest that welch does it all FOR THE OTTERS?

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JacquesCuze wrote: A for profit company can still use "fair use" if they do it right, even if they still make a profit. A non-profit can still infringe and be denied a "fair use" defense if they do it wrong.

I am not a lawyer. I myself don't think that Sarkeesian's "stealing" 20 images and pasting them together with no other transformation makes for the fair use "montage" she claims, I think that just makes her an asshole who doesn't give a shit about copyright and then tries to rationalize it. I would like an IP lawyer explain why sampling music or other audio is okay, but I suspect what "transforms" that are the other elements of the arrangement. Time, length, volume, how much is sampled, how it contrasts or complements the other sampled elements, and any original elements from the artist doing the sampling.
Let the lawyers sort it out then. Its not a particularly interesting angle.

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