Bleeding from the Bunghole

[Tony Parsehole]

Love Bedazzled. Hate the remake. I wish they'd quit doing that.

The remake was a big pile of wank. Are there any remade films that are better than the original?

[Garewolf]

Physics has a fine-tuning problem that it cannot resolve, therefore Two midgets shitting inside a bucket.

I think we have a winner.

Cards Against Humanity reference?
:clap:

[welch]

Love Bedazzled. Hate the remake. I wish they'd quit doing that.

The remake was a big pile of wank. Are there any remade films that are better than the original?

Lord of the Rings. (I love Bakshi, but yeah.)

[welch]

It hasn't progressed beyond, "It is a problem therefore...?"

He seems reluctant to say "goddidit" and it looks like he wants to keep pointing to the problem till we all reach the conclusion that goddidit. Thats what it looks like.

Why don't we all skip to the next step and just discuss which god we want it to be? I'd like a religion with plenty of booze and orgies, but without tithing and human sacrifice.

Shiva. Because Remo WIlliams is AWESOME.

Yeah...even if he isn't Korean. (I am pretty sure you are not referring to the movie version)

I am NEVER referring to the movie version. Wilfred Brimley as Smith? Bah. Pale Piece of Pig's Ear indeed. I did like the casting for MacCleary, that was kind of inspired. And Joel Grey did try really hard with Chiun. But I think they only looked at the first two books, and not the rest, so they missed that the entire thing is kind of farcical.

They keep threatening to do another movie, and there was that pilot with Roddy McDowell as Chiun, (never saw it, but Roddy can act), but I don't see them being able to do it well. There's a lot of stuff in the books that would not translate well to modern day, and you kind of can't have a SJW Master of Sinanju.

[Ape+lust]

Love Bedazzled. Hate the remake. I wish they'd quit doing that.

The remake was a big pile of wank. Are there any remade films that are better than the original?

The Thing. And... The Thing. That's all I've got, though there are probably others.

Wait, here's another -- Reservoir Dogs is better than City on Fire.

Worse than remakes are prequels. I can't think of one that works, unless you count The Godfather II, which is half a prequel. I was hoping Prometheus would break the curse, but nope, it sucked harder than I feared it would.

[Ape+lust]

Oops. I'd better be clear. I meant Carpenter's The Thing, not that recent prequel hack job with the same name.

[ROBOKiTTY]

I keep trying not to let feminazism get to me, but I can't. Every time I see something retarded from feminazis, it makes me angry and more sympathetic to the crazies on the other side, with whom I'm equally uncomfortable. I hate that feminazism is equated with leftism.

How do you fine leftist peoples cope?

[BarnOwl]

The TV miniseries Frank Herbert's Dune was better than the David Lynch film, which I thought of as Blue Velvet Dune.

[Tony Parsehole]

Love Bedazzled. Hate the remake. I wish they'd quit doing that.

The remake was a big pile of wank. Are there any remade films that are better than the original?

Lord of the Rings. (I love Bakshi, but yeah.)

Aye. Of course.

I'll always have a place in my heart for the Bakshi version even though:
1) Gandalf pronounces "Saruman" as "Aruman".
2) Boromir was a viking in a skirt
http://www.datapacrat.com/www.wulfarchi ... romir1.gif
3) Aragorn was a Native-American
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e ... ragorn.jpg
4) The hobbits were too kawaii
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e ... Pippin.JPG
5) The balrog had a perm and was wearing flares
http://periannath.com/wp-content/upload ... kshi20.jpg
6) The rotoscoping on the orcs got really, really shit as the film went on
http://www.anthonypryor.com/wp-content/ ... matorc.gif
8) Treebeard looked like a haunted carrot
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e ... ebeard.JPG

[Apples]

The most you can say is I poo-pooed Victor Stenger's approach to this. We could go through his book in detail but for now I provided only the circumstantial evidence that it appears only Victor Stenger and non-scientists (or perhaps out-of-field) scientists who read his book think that he has succeeded. The book was not peer-reviewed--nor is it a popularized companion to peer-reviewed research. Cosmologists continue to treat the fine tuning as a problem and make no reference in the professional literature to the problem having been solved by Stenger.

For those interested in dedicating off-Pit study-time to the fine-tuning debate, here is a summary of Stenger's points in his book:

http://debunkingdenialism.com/2011/11/1 ... -argument/

Here is a reply to Stenger's case from Luke Barnes:

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/111 ... 4647v1.pdf

Here is Stenger's response:

http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1202/1202.4359.pdf

Here is Barnes' two-part retort to Stenger:

http://letterstonature.wordpress.com/20 ... gent-life/
http://letterstonature.wordpress.com/20 ... er-part-2/

Bonus link - here is Barnes calling out PZ for some flippant statements about fine-tuning. PZ shows up to defend himself in the comments:

http://letterstonature.wordpress.com/20 ... p-z-myers/

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Gotta say I'm with Tribble on this -- It's odd to see so many people implying that Heddle's insistence on its significance counts against his scientific credibility. AFAICT Heddle's statements are totally mainstream and consistent with the views of most non-theist physicists. On the other hand, I can see why people are uncomfortable with physicists talking about it in public, since it looks like powerful ammunition for IDers. On the other other hand, if you can prove that there are infinite parallel universes, problem solved. :think:

I think the fine-tuning issue is fascinating (if not very LOLzy) and would be interested in seeing it continue on its own thread.

[rpguest]

any claims about "fine tuning" and associated "problems" requires an understanding of what came "before" the singularity what spawned the universe as we can understand it. which requires evidence. do we have any? anything specific at all?

heck it requires serious thought to determine if we CAN discover anything "before" our frame of reference, since we can only track space and time back to that singularity. what comes "before" the advent of space-time itself? is it even possible to detect from within our frame of reference?

there are of course speculations as to what "is/was/wtf" outside of big bang theory, but do we have a single scrap of evidence up to this point?

if it is all speculation, then fine-tuning, inflation, and anything cannot be "a problem." it is foundationless. unsupportable. if the same level of speculation can brush it aside, then to me it is as "not a problem" as anything is. if there is no evidence supporting that claim, there is nothing to do with it.

pursue it all you like looking FOR evidence--we do that all the time. but you cannot hang "a problem" on it, if there is absolutely no way to analyze anything about it. until specific evidence is discovered, the statement is founded on nothing, and certainly no other inference can rest ON it, theistic or not.

it is "a problem" only in the way we use that to describe "something unknown to be discovered"

if in this case that is even possible

inference follows evidence

[BarnOwl]

I haven't seen PJ's Hobbit films, but they can't be any worse than the Rankin/Bass animated The Hobbit from the 1970s. Ugh.

[Tony Parsehole]

The TV miniseries Frank Herbert's Dune was better than the David Lynch film, which I thought of as Blue Velvet Dune.

Gotta disagree there Barnowl. I loved the film (even though it deviated a lot from the book) and fucking loathed the TV series. Ian Mcneice was half decent but everything else, particularly the sets and costumes was a disgrace. I'll never forgive them for what they did to the Sardaukar:

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2 ... V-2000.png

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

The TV miniseries Frank Herbert's Dune was better than the David Lynch film, which I thought of as Blue Velvet Dune.

Fuck Lynch into the ground with a rusty pineapple (except Elephant Man, maybe).

[Tony Parsehole]

Love Bedazzled. Hate the remake. I wish they'd quit doing that.

The remake was a big pile of wank. Are there any remade films that are better than the original?

The Thing. And... The Thing. That's all I've got, though there are probably others.

Wait, here's another -- Reservoir Dogs is better than City on Fire.

Worse than remakes are prequels. I can't think of one that works, unless you count The Godfather II, which is half a prequel. I was hoping Prometheus would break the curse, but nope, it sucked harder than I feared it would.

You've got me thinking for good prequels now....

[BarnOwl]

The TV miniseries Frank Herbert's Dune was better than the David Lynch film, which I thought of as Blue Velvet Dune.

Gotta disagree there Barnowl. I loved the film (even though it deviated a lot from the book) and fucking loathed the TV series. Ian Mcneice was half decent but everything else, particularly the sets and costumes was a disgrace. I'll never forgive them for what they did to the Sardaukar:

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2 ... V-2000.png

Yeah those costumes are pretty silly. And I did like Patrick Stewart as Gurney Halleck. But most of the film was too David Lynch-y, and the only Lynch film I halfway cared for was The Elephant Man. Got really tired of the contrived antics in Twin Peaks as well.

[ROBOKiTTY]

I have a hard time understanding how Peter Jackson turned a mediate-length novel into a movie trilogy. It just smells like profiteering to me.

[heddle]

The most you can say is I poo-pooed Victor Stenger's approach to this. We could go through his book in detail but for now I provided only the circumstantial evidence that it appears only Victor Stenger and non-scientists (or perhaps out-of-field) scientists who read his book think that he has succeeded. The book was not peer-reviewed--nor is it a popularized companion to peer-reviewed research. Cosmologists continue to treat the fine tuning as a problem and make no reference in the professional literature to the problem having been solved by Stenger.

For those interested in dedicating off-Pit study-time to the fine-tuning debate, here is a summary of Stenger's points in his book:

http://debunkingdenialism.com/2011/11/1 ... -argument/

Here is a reply to Stenger's case from Luke Barnes:

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/111 ... 4647v1.pdf

Here is Stenger's response:

http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1202/1202.4359.pdf

Here is Barnes' two-part retort to Stenger:

http://letterstonature.wordpress.com/20 ... gent-life/
http://letterstonature.wordpress.com/20 ... er-part-2/

Bonus link - here is Barnes calling out PZ for some flippant statements about fine-tuning. PZ shows up to defend himself in the comments:

http://letterstonature.wordpress.com/20 ... p-z-myers/

****************************************************

Gotta say I'm with Tribble on this -- It's odd to see so many people implying that Heddle's insistence on its significance counts against his scientific credibility. AFAICT Heddle's statements are totally mainstream and consistent with the views of most non-theist physicists. On the other hand, I can see why people are uncomfortable with physicists talking about it in public, since it looks like powerful ammunition for IDers. On the other other hand, if you can prove that there are infinite parallel universes, problem solved. :think:

I think the fine-tuning issue is fascinating (if not very LOLzy) and would be interested in seeing it continue on its own thread.

Thanks for posting those links. And for the correct assessment that my views are mainstream.

[ROBOKiTTY]

An edit button, my KiTTYdom for an edit button.

[mikelf]

P&G is the company responsible for Febreze, a product so heinous I can't even bring myself to discuss it. :shock:

I have a cat who thinks peeing in corners is a fine thing to do. Happily, she hates Febreze (and fabric softeners). I don't blame her, I can't stand the cloying stuff either.

Off topic, but I had an elderly cat (passed away earlier this year just a few weeks shy of 20 years old), that started urinating in corners and along walls in her dotage. The vet suggested using a special litter used to box train kittens, Dr. Elseys (http://www.preciouscat.com). It worked like a charm. Cat stopped inappropriate urinating immediately and never did it again.

Not sure where you live, bu if you are US based, you can find it a Petsmart.

[Dick Strawkins]

Love Bedazzled. Hate the remake. I wish they'd quit doing that.

The remake was a big pile of wank. Are there any remade films that are better than the original?

I preferred the 70s remake of 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers'.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--U3HmxIa0RM/U ... n+trio.jpg

The recent Judge Dredd remake was also far better than the original Sylvester Stallone abomination (it still wasn't great, but a big improvement.)

[BarnOwl]

You've got me thinking for good prequels now....

I don't know whether Abrams' 2009 Star Trek counts as a prequel (it's certainly a reboot), but I thought it was pretty damn good.

[rpguest]

MEANwhile

http://i.imgur.com/vxhQN4N.jpg

[Dick Strawkins]

Also the remake of "Expelled", starring Thunderf00t and PZ Myers was far more entertaining than the original.

[Dick Strawkins]

http://imgace.com/wp-content/uploads/20 ... -seen1.jpg

[Tony Parsehole]

Yeah those costumes are pretty silly. And I did like Patrick Stewart as Gurney Halleck. But most of the film was too David Lynch-y, and the only Lynch film I halfway cared for was The Elephant Man. Got really tired of the contrived antics in Twin Peaks as well.

GAH....Twin Peaks!! That really lured me in but by the second series I knew he was taking the piss.
Too many questions, not enough answers and when they do bother to throw us a bone it's some random deus ex machina explanation. Just like fucking Lost.

[Tony Parsehole]

Love Bedazzled. Hate the remake. I wish they'd quit doing that.

The remake was a big pile of wank. Are there any remade films that are better than the original?

I preferred the 70s remake of 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers'.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--U3HmxIa0RM/U ... n+trio.jpg

The recent Judge Dredd remake was also far better than the original Sylvester Stallone abomination (it still wasn't great, but a big improvement.)

Yep. Dredd was miles better. For the record I thought it was brilliant.
Never seen either version of Invasion of the body snatchers

[Tigzy]

Love Bedazzled. Hate the remake. I wish they'd quit doing that.

The remake was a big pile of wank. Are there any remade films that are better than the original?

I preferred the 70s remake of 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers'.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--U3HmxIa0RM/U ... n+trio.jpg

The recent Judge Dredd remake was also far better than the original Sylvester Stallone abomination (it still wasn't great, but a big improvement.)

Nah, Dredd was the mutts nuts IMO - my favourite SF film of recent years. Likewise, the best use of 3D I've yet seen at the flicks. Seriously, this scene in 3D was...whoa...

[youtube]jDsmhOYxKsE[/youtube]

[Dick Strawkins]

Rebecca is promoting a kickstarter on twitter from her boyfriend and Carrie Poppy.
Apparently they are trying to make a documentary about Sedona - some Arizona town that is full of woo-merchants.
It sounds a pretty boring premise to sell and it doesn't really look like they are getting too many takers - they need 20,000 dollars pledged by the 1st of January. Currently they are at 3,300.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/165 ... ntary-film

Trigger warning if you click the video.

[debaser71]

Maybe I missed it but "problem" in what sense? A deep fundamental problem in physics that puts all of physics up for suspect or a problem physicists are working on solving like they do any other problem? These misunderstandings could easily be done away with if people were simply clear in their language.

[John D]

Rebecca is promoting a kickstarter on twitter from her boyfriend and Carrie Poppy.
Apparently they are trying to make a documentary about Sedona - some Arizona town that is full of woo-merchants.
It sounds a pretty boring premise to sell and it doesn't really look like they are getting too many takers - they need 20,000 dollars pledged by the 1st of January. Currently they are at 3,300.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/165 ... ntary-film

Trigger warning if you click the video.

It might be worth $20 just for the yucks.

[Lsuoma]

Hmmm. Bitbucket repo for C+= now gone too: https://bitbucket.org/FeministSoftwareF ... s-equality

[Dick Strawkins]

Rebecca is promoting a kickstarter on twitter from her boyfriend and Carrie Poppy.
Apparently they are trying to make a documentary about Sedona - some Arizona town that is full of woo-merchants.
It sounds a pretty boring premise to sell and it doesn't really look like they are getting too many takers - they need 20,000 dollars pledged by the 1st of January. Currently they are at 3,300.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/165 ... ntary-film

Trigger warning if you click the video.

It might be worth $20 just for the yucks.

It's a hipster holiday.
Carrie Poppy is going to the Mystic Meg of Sedona to look into her crystal ball for more dirt on Shermer.

[zenbabe]

It's a hipster holiday.
Carrie Poppy is going to the Mystic Meg of Sedona to look into her crystal ball for more dirt on Shermer.

:lol:

[Southern]

I have a hard time understanding how Peter Jackson turned a mediate-length novel into a movie trilogy. It just smells like profiteering to me.

How he did it? Simple: New Line Cinema was going down under until PJ got into the Hobbit project. They could have done with two movies, but that would be only 66% of the profits.

[zenbabe]

The TV miniseries Frank Herbert's Dune was better than the David Lynch film, which I thought of as Blue Velvet Dune.

The TV mini series was very enjoyable to me. I hadn't read the books and the series inspired me to do so. My boyfriend at the time had read them, and was huffing and puffing and tsking at the series, but because he was not Welsh, he didn't spoil the books for me. When I got to the parts in the books that were vastly different, then I understood his reactions. Directors can't seem to resist putting their own stamp on stories.

Still, the mini series was loads better, as far as the story goes, than Lynch's version, which I watched after I read the books.

That was super fun, we laughed and laughed and laughed that day :D
Lynch's Dune is pretty great though in its own weird, mad, psychotic way.
And, it had Sting.

http://chickgeek.org/wp-content/uploads ... ne_cat.jpg

[zenbabe]

I have a hard time understanding how Peter Jackson turned a mediate-length novel into a movie trilogy. It just smells like profiteering to me.

How he did it? Simple: New Line Cinema was going down under until PJ got into the Hobbit project. They could have done with two movies, but that would be only 66% of the profits.

I haven't seen the movies nor read about the ones that are out, so guessing wildly, did Jackson bring in a lot of back story from the Sillymarillion into the Hobbit?

[Ericb]

Rebecca is promoting a kickstarter on twitter from her boyfriend and Carrie Poppy.
Apparently they are trying to make a documentary about Sedona - some Arizona town that is full of woo-merchants.
It sounds a pretty boring premise to sell and it doesn't really look like they are getting too many takers - they need 20,000 dollars pledged by the 1st of January. Currently they are at 3,300.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/165 ... ntary-film

Trigger warning if you click the video.

Going for the low hanging fruit eh? I thought SJW's looked on bigfoot skepticism with contempt.

[Aneris]

Rebecca is promoting a kickstarter on twitter from her boyfriend and Carrie Poppy.
Apparently they are trying to make a documentary about Sedona - some Arizona town that is full of woo-merchants.
It sounds a pretty boring premise to sell and it doesn't really look like they are getting too many takers - they need 20,000 dollars pledged by the 1st of January. Currently they are at 3,300.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/165 ... ntary-film

Trigger warning if you click the video.

The lovely Derren Brown went there once and debunked a number of so-called psychics. He his open about deceiving anyone, including the audience, yet as far as I understood he uses the techniques he outlines at the beginning (showmanship, psychology etc.) and not staging (working with stooges, hired actors etc). You can never know though, which is kind of the point. It could be that suggestions we hear in the first skit “don't go overboard on details” “let the images sail through your mind” (boat) actually do work, or if he fools around with the audience and has some other trick up his sleeve. Anyway, I enjoy watching his stuff all things considered.

[youtube]MT3izBQfh5M[/youtube]

[Dick Strawkins]

Rebecca is promoting a kickstarter on twitter from her boyfriend and Carrie Poppy.
Apparently they are trying to make a documentary about Sedona - some Arizona town that is full of woo-merchants.
It sounds a pretty boring premise to sell and it doesn't really look like they are getting too many takers - they need 20,000 dollars pledged by the 1st of January. Currently they are at 3,300.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/165 ... ntary-film

Trigger warning if you click the video.

Going for the low hanging fruit eh? I thought SJW's looked on bigfoot skepticism with contempt.

If the likes of Shermer, Grothe and Radford do it, it's despicable.
But the skepchicks and their friends?

I think it's OK when they do it.

[JacquesCuze]

While we have debated fine tuning OB has kept her finger on the pulse of male terrorism.

Whoever are involved are idiots. But really? Is this what the outrage rests on?

I also find it "interesting" that she used the obscure word 'jape'

Very Bart / Parsehole

The headline is also a tad leading.

BBCode (message boards & forums)
http://i.imgur.com/urd3XPI.jpg

http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... on-or-gbh/

I've had enough with this passive-agressive bullshit "because x is y, right?". Benson and friends are getting on my nerves more than they should. I may have to take my distances from this shit for a while.

Or maybe I could call her a fucking old, shrivelled lying twat, and just relax while having lunch and watching An idiot Abroad.

Yeah, I'll do that.

This is what those people simply don't understand. Why can't these people understand that there are a LOT of people out there who are VERY sensitive to the concept of being attacked either socially or systematically and react strongly in opposition to any sign of this? They should try having a little fucking empathy for once.

They're used to their own badness getting a pass, so they don't understand, but I think a lot of people innately understand that a form like this would be used to get people...either say if a date went bad, or if someone did something they didn't like, or even just to plain old-fashion bully them. That's how this would be used, for the most part. Real reporting of sexual assault? Of course, they'd be going to the POLICE.

Now, I don't think that this particular action was useful...it looked bad from an optics point of view, which IMO is always important. But note that nowhere in that post did Ophelia stop to actually think about WHY people are angry about this sort of thing. She just chalks it up to "misogyny" and leaves it at that.

I wrote something on google plus about this.

It starts off like this

I think their stated use of that form is a problem.

Community of the Wrongly Accused defends the form as one required by the Clery Act http://www.cotwa.info/2013/12/cotwa-can ... ental.html. But my layman's look at the form leads me to think it's not as simple as that.

I don't know the background of this form, how it is used at Occidental, whether forms like this are widespread at other colleges, but reading the form I see:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/vie ... c6MA#gid=0

[1] If a perpetrator is named, a member of the Dean of Students Office will meet with that person to share that the person was named in an anonymous report, review the Sexual Misconduct Policy, and [2] inform the person that if the allegations are true, the behavior needs to cease immediately. [3] Information shared in this form alone will not result in anyone going through the grievance process.

I added the numbers in the quote.

Given that rape and sexual assault are serious crimes, and in this post Dear Colleague Letter, guilty until proven innocent, preponderance of the evidence era, (reason.com/archives/2013/12/17/guilty-until-proven-innocent) I just don't see how 1, 2, and 3 above can be simultaneously true.

Especially 2.

...

I doubt you folks just want the whole thing cut and pasted in (or would you prefer that) so there's more at the link.

The story of the spamming has now been written up at rawstory http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/18/m ... e-reports/ and business insider http://businessinsider.com/mens-rights- ... al-2013-12 and gawker http://gawker.com/college-mens-rights-t ... 1486018818 and HuffPo http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/1 ... 68236.html and elsewhere and it's pretty clear since they all rely heavily on Manboobz that he fed them his story and they should poutraged some boilerplate around it.

Here is what RawStory says and it's pretty typical of the stories about it:

‘Men’s rights activists’ conspire to cripple college rape reporting system with false reports

A group of self-described “men’s rights” activists have recently flooded an anonymous online sexual assault reporting form with false claims in an attempt to make the system unusable.

The anti-misogyny website Man Boobz noted on Tuesday that the Men’s Rights group on Reddit had posted a link to Occidental College’s “Sexual Violence Anonymous Reporting Form.”

The Reddit post was titled: “Feminists at Occidental College created an online form to anonymously report rape/sexual assault. You just fill out a form and the person is called into the office on a rape charge. The ‘victim’ never has to prove anything or reveal their identity.”

As several Redditors observed, the title of the post was misleading because the form clearly says that the data is intended to “identify and address troubling trends,” and that “nformation shared in this form alone will not result in anyone going through the grievance process.”

“If a perpetrator is named, a member of the Dean of Students Office will meet with that person to share that the person was named in an anonymous report, review the Sexual Misconduct Policy, and inform the person that if the allegations are true, the behavior needs to cease immediately,” the document explains.

But many members of the Men’s Rights subreddit boasted that they had filled out false reports.

...

Okay, so look again at what the form claims it to be about:

This form should be used by members of the Occidental College community who have experienced or have been witness to sexual violence (sexual assault, rape or sexual battery). The information will be used to identify and address troubling trends. ... Information shared in this form alone will not result in anyone going through the grievance process.

The form claims to be used for survey purposes. To spot trends. And not a report used to report rapes.

Maybe I am being pedantic or an asshole, but Occidental seems to be saying it's not a rape reporting system. So I don't understand how spamming it is crippling a rape reporting system.

It is spamming a rape survey used to spot trends.

I think a one or two day spam of a survey used to spot trends is actually pretty easy to fix, throw out one or two day's of data and continue.

And here are the false accusations that gawker finds so horrible:

That language included the bogus rape accusations "I was assaulted by Occidental College, I was assaulted by feminists, I was assaulted by Fatty McFatfat," Tranquada confirmed.

and

HuffPo

The liberal arts college was flooded with 400 assault reports in 36 hours, according to an email to students and staff from Lauren Carella, the interim Title IX coordinator. The reports were the "result of an effort by off-campus Internet 'trolls,'" Carella wrote.

"Some of the reports we received, which named such respondents as 'Occidental College,' 'feminists' and 'Fatty McFatFat,' were clearly not made in good faith," Carella wrote. Some faculty, staff and student names also were listed as respondents on the reports, she said. "This abuse of our reporting system is unacceptable to all of us," Carella said. "This form is an important option for the Oxy community to use to address the serious issue of sexual assault."

Is Occidental using this form anonymously to survey and spot rape trends? Or are they using the form as an anonymous rape reporting system.

If the answer is both, I think they're doing it wrong, because I don't think a system set up for one is right for the other, and vice versa. And of course, if it's both, they are lying about it in their form.

I tweeted at an Oxy official quoted in the press. He has not responded.

[tweet][/tweet]

[ROBOKiTTY]

C+= moved again:
https://code.google.com/p/c-plus-equality/

Stupid Bitbucket. I thought they had principles, but they turned out to be misogynists just liek GitHub.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

" Life is different from non-life because it generates selves with teleodynamic constraints, molecular arrangements that are for something, have a purpose, point to goals that, if achieved, allow the self to make the crucial natural-selection cut."

Looks pretty innocuous to me – all of life quite clearly seems to be based on increasing order – for awhile in any case – and the pursuit of goals in notable contradistinction to non-life. As mentioned, all within some quite credible physics – or are you going to dispute that?

In addition, many others have said pretty much the same thing, Ernst Mayr for example in his Toward a New Philosophy of Biology said:

Intentional, purposeful human behaviour is, almost by definition, teleological. Yet I shall exclude it from further discussion because use of the words intentional or consciously premeditated, which are usually employed in connection with such behavior, runs the risk of getting us involved in complex controversies over psychological theory, even though much of human behaviour does not differ from animal behavior. [pg 41]

Goal-directed behavior (in the widest sense of this word) is extremely widespread in the organic world; for instance, most activity connected with migration, food-getting, courtship, ontogeny, and all phases of reproduction are characterized by such goal orientation. The occurrence of goal-directed processes is perhaps the most characteristic feature of the world of living organisms. [p45]

I hardly see Kauffman’s statement being inconsistent with or out-of-line relative to those statements of Mayr’s, and many others of his as well.

Mayr was talking about animal behavior being goal-driven. Kauffman is saying molecules strive toward goals. To impart purpose or striving to evolution is non-darwinian, and inescapably summons A Higher Purposeâ„¢ and all that entails. Mayr was a group-selectionist (thus anti-hamiltonian, thus wrong), but his excellent work on speciation was firmly rooted in darwinian natural selection. Kauffman, otoh, is a leading proponent of non-darwinian forms of evolution.

[Lsuoma]

C+= moved again:
https://code.google.com/p/c-plus-equality/

Stupid Bitbucket. I thought they had principles, but they turned out to be misogynists just liek GitHub.

Also here - this looks like a permanent home.

[Dick Strawkins]

C+= moved again:
https://code.google.com/p/c-plus-equality/

Stupid Bitbucket. I thought they had principles, but they turned out to be misogynists just liek GitHub.

Also here - this looks like a permanent home.

[youtube]YP9kLSEfHTM[/youtube]

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Her Mormon Date video was posted to over a dozen subreddits, half of them MRA forums. Some ... some had a take she'd never want to hear: Rebecca Watson is a bigot and humiliator. That's different than the usual cunt-skank-ho-lulz shit she's always too happy to share. If that makes her uncomfortable, too fecking bad, she earned it.

Plus, her virgin neckbeard suitors might wonder, 'if an attractive, fit man like Reginald can't get pussy from Becca, what chance does a fat, larpy dude with cheetoh-stains on his fingers like me have?' And then they start to reconsider buying Becca all that expensive shit on her Amazon wishlist.

[ROBOKiTTY]

Welp, it didn't take long for Google to delete C+=. Misogynists, misogynists everywhere

[welch]

I have a hard time understanding how Peter Jackson turned a mediate-length novel into a movie trilogy. It just smells like profiteering to me.

How he did it? Simple: New Line Cinema was going down under until PJ got into the Hobbit project. They could have done with two movies, but that would be only 66% of the profits.

I haven't seen the movies nor read about the ones that are out, so guessing wildly, did Jackson bring in a lot of back story from the Sillymarillion into the Hobbit?

Yes. he also expands on the battle of the 5 armies, given that in the hobbit, it was basically "Bilbo gets hit by a rock. WHen he wakes up, it's all over but the crying over Thorin"

[Kareem]

Because now I gotta ask:

If a Chtorran worm,
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/1829h6w ... xlarge.jpg

got in a fight with a Shai-hulud,

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e ... ndworm.JPG

Who would win?

[zenbabe]

I haven't seen the movies nor read about the ones that are out, so guessing wildly, did Jackson bring in a lot of back story from the Sillymarillion into the Hobbit?

Yes. he also expands on the battle of the 5 armies, given that in the hobbit, it was basically "Bilbo gets hit by a rock. WHen he wakes up, it's all over but the crying over Thorin"

GODDAMMIT WELSH YOU FUCKER I HAVEN'T READ THE BOOK YET!

Anyway, if he both added some of the dense backstory/stories from the Silmarillian in a way that made any sense to those who haven't read it (and probably those who have) and expanded (I'd guess, greatly) the battle of the 5 armies, and add to that the way Jackson has of prolonging lots of little moments, that would bloat the little book into three gigantic movies pretty easily.

I'm looking forward to seeing them, but will probably wait for the DVD box set.

[Tony Parsehole]

I haven't seen the movies nor read about the ones that are out, so guessing wildly, did Jackson bring in a lot of back story from the Sillymarillion into the Hobbit?

Yes. he also expands on the battle of the 5 armies, given that in the hobbit, it was basically "Bilbo gets hit by a rock. WHen he wakes up, it's all over but the crying over Thorin"

GODDAMMIT WELSH YOU FUCKER I HAVEN'T READ THE BOOK YET!

Chill, Winston, that's not what really happens anyway. Bilbo actually gets hit by a coconut.

[Tony Parsehole]

Because now I gotta ask:

If a Chtorran worm,
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/1829h6w ... xlarge.jpg

got in a fight with a Shai-hulud,

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e ... ndworm.JPG

Who would win?

Depends how much water is in the vicinity. If it's damp the Dune worm is fucked.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

I'm just gonna leave this here for future uses (I might need it a lot)

[youtube]-6-3rfcciCE[/youtube]

[JacquesCuze]

Her Mormon Date video was posted to over a dozen subreddits, half of them MRA forums. Some ... some had a take she'd never want to hear: Rebecca Watson is a bigot and humiliator. That's different than the usual cunt-skank-ho-lulz shit she's always too happy to share. If that makes her uncomfortable, too fecking bad, she earned it.

Plus, her virgin neckbeard suitors might wonder, 'if an attractive, fit man like Reginald can't get pussy from Becca, what chance does a fat, larpy dude with cheetoh-stains on his fingers like me have?' And then they start to reconsider buying Becca all that expensive shit on her Amazon wishlist.

Girl Writes What had a comment that summarizes:

A man was shamed for caring about his reproductive rights.

By a feminist who has publicly stated that sex with a drunk person is rape because a drunk person cannot consent to sex, but who was about to have sex after drinking (and her comment that she ordered "one of everything" strongly hints that she was drinking to excess, which she has a history of doing).

The man was sober, and I'm sure she'd argue that a sober person having sex with a drunk person is very definitely rape, with the sober person entirely culpable.

Sex is supposed to be a mutually agreed upon act, yet she was pressuring him to have sex under circumstances that he was uncomfortable with. According to many feminists (and college sexual misconduct handbooks), pressuring someone into having sex when they don't want to, is sexual misconduct.

There is an unacknowledged (by feminists) power imbalance regarding sex and dating, that is weighted heavily in favor of the woman. A man is always supposed to accept a woman's "no", yet women feel entitled to sex from men when they want it, and often get seriously pissed over a rejection--even over something like birth control. Imagine a man telling a woman to get the fuck out of his apartment because she dared to hesitate before finally agreeing under pressure to "put out". Imagine a man getting pissed off at a woman who thought a condom alone wasn't adequate protection. Would a man get up on a stage and receive polite (if awkward) laughter and applause telling that story?

She put up so many red flags with this anecdote, it's not even funny. She's an "accidentally on purpose" pregnancy, or false rape accusation, just waiting to happen. Men need to be educated on these types of red flags.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/panten ... 2013-12-19
http://business.time.com/2013/12/17/a-l ... razy-over/

http://i.imgur.com/Mjeh3bo.png

They think that's bad? The only employer willing to hire otherkins is Disneyland!

[Pagancat]

C+= moved again:
https://code.google.com/p/c-plus-equality/

Stupid Bitbucket. I thought they had principles, but they turned out to be misogynists just liek GitHub.

Also here - this looks like a permanent home.

[youtube]YP9kLSEfHTM[/youtube]

Wow these guys are taking this joke all the way.

Code: Select all

//compile with: g++ -std=c++11 fizzbuzz.cpp -o fizzbuzz
//Here we see the ego of X being raised (by continued liking) until it feels
//    itself more attractive than 101, at which point it loses all respect and
//    honor for 101. This typical example of femminine social dynamics should
//    go towards setting the standard for C+= programs.
#define FIZZBUZZ_CPP
#include "fixCPP.Xe"

xi main (xi requestCount, strong** requests) {
    attempt {
        xi x;
        pretend_is(x,0);
        while (honors(x, 101)) {
            maybe (envelops(x,3) && please) {
                plz::raise_awareness of_the_following "FIZZ\n";
            } perhaps_and_equally_valid maybe (envelops(x,5) && please) {
                plz::raise_awareness of_the_following "BUZZ\n";
            } perhaps_and_equally_valid {
                plz::raise_awareness of_the_following x also "\n";
            }
            like(x);
        }
    } on_alternative_success (trigger oppression) {
        plz::raise_awareness of_the_following "ERROR: " also oppression.why();
    }
}

[Tony Parsehole]

Yes. he also expands on the battle of the 5 armies, given that in the hobbit, it was basically "Bilbo gets hit by a rock. WHen he wakes up, it's all over but the crying over Thorin"

*snigger* Spot-on.
I like how Dol Guldur is only mentioned about 5 times throughout the entire source material with the actual assault on the fortress being covered in a single sentence in the arse-end of the LOTR appendices. They really fleshed that story-arc out.

I fucking loved Desolation Of Smaug BTW, absolutely stunning film.
Considering the holy texts devote an entire chapter to the company walking through a pitch-dark forest, another to Bilbo sitting on a barrel and has the Dwarves being 100% superfluous tag-alongs whose only contribution to the quest is to make Bilbo and Gandalf seem awesome by virtue of their being so shit, I'm pretty glad Jackson didn't follow it word-for word.

Come at me Hobbit-bro's.

[JacquesCuze]

Wow these guys are taking this joke all the way.

Code: Select all

//compile with: g++ -std=c++11 fizzbuzz.cpp -o fizzbuzz
//Here we see the ego of X being raised (by continued liking) until it feels
//    itself more attractive than 101, at which point it loses all respect and
//    honor for 101. This typical example of femminine social dynamics should
//    go towards setting the standard for C+= programs.
#define FIZZBUZZ_CPP
#include "fixCPP.Xe"

xi main (xi requestCount, strong** requests) {
    attempt {
        xi x;
        pretend_is(x,0);
        while (honors(x, 101)) {
            maybe (envelops(x,3) && please) {
                plz::raise_awareness of_the_following "FIZZ\n";
            } perhaps_and_equally_valid maybe (envelops(x,5) && please) {
                plz::raise_awareness of_the_following "BUZZ\n";
            } perhaps_and_equally_valid {
                plz::raise_awareness of_the_following x also "\n";
            }
            like(x);
        }
    } on_alternative_success (trigger oppression) {
        plz::raise_awareness of_the_following "ERROR: " also oppression.why();
    }
}

There is nothing in that repo other than speech and pretty innocuous speech at that.

It is pretty shocking that github, bitbucket and now google have taken these parodies down. Google especially with all their bullshit about DMCA notices and the chilling effects and how they claim to support freedom and free speech globally.

This is why I fear feminists and try to remain anonymous.

[Mykeru]

Gotta say I'm with Tribble on this -- It's odd to see so many people implying that Heddle's insistence on its significance counts against his scientific credibility. AFAICT Heddle's statements are totally mainstream and consistent with the views of most non-theist physicists. On the other hand, I can see why people are uncomfortable with physicists talking about it in public, since it looks like powerful ammunition for IDers. On the other other hand, if you can prove that there are infinite parallel universes, problem solved. :think:

Jeeeeesus fucking Christ, it's earnest sorts like this that keep three card monte dealers in business and people who claim to be able to move objects by telekenisis, when they are simply fucking blowing on it, with an endless series of deep thinker scientists to bamboozle. This is, to go further, why I'm convinced that all the "intellectuals on the internet", scientists and self-appointed doofus skeptics will not only never win against people with communications and marketing degrees, Creationists, Apologists, con artists and general purveyors of horseshit, but they will get trounced.

As I recall, and of course I'm wrong because I don't exist in the rarefied intellectual atmosphere of the demi-gods who trolls love, but what Heddle kept insisting on was the lack of significance of the fine-tuning argument. S/h/it was asked serveral times what this means when you cash it in, and insisted that it's a problem, but you can't extrapolate from that to thinking there's an ontological or teleological point behind bringing it up. Then again, I'm fascinated by making my own shit and can be found, when not grasping the complexities, playing with it in a corner.

Then again, and not coincidental with my using a sippy bottle and still missing my mouth, is how people so scrupulously ignore parsimony and instead of having to go through the most likely explanation, that this is just the Anthropic Principle in action on a large scale, just dismiss it out of hand. Of course, just thinking the nature of matter has the sort of characteristics it has because that's just how it is, is part and parcel with not been a deep, Steersman level thinker. In the same sense saying "he's blowing on it" displays a lack of understanding of ethereal quantum harmonic vibrations.

Also, Tribble is a piece of shit and Heddle, at this point, should be wrapped in chains and dropped into the Marianas Trench.

Feel free to make a thread for this, because I'm sick of this posturing horseshit.

[Tony Parsehole]

Who needs their daily dose of cringe at the expense of furries? Trigger Warning: Toe-Curling Embarrassment


[youtube]OZlGVsB8L54[/youtube]
[youtube]z4yaQqpowRY[/youtube]

Look, ye mortals, and weep.