Yea team! Hot damn, and all that.ERV wrote:Hey guys-- Big Boy is officially alive. The mother fucker is absolutely working. Since 2009 I have been working on this, and now its working. Fuck. Yeah. I dont know what to do with myself.
Stop harassing me!!!Dick Strawkins wrote:Hey Metalogic42, I think my wife knows your ex girlfriend.
I didn't realize it at first because she uses a different name for you
- she calls you micrologic42 :D
:rimshot:
They're aware of that as well; the difference between them and us is the consequences part :Pjustin vacula wrote:I don't really care if people on Freethought Blogs write shit about me anymore. Before I publish anything on Twitter, Facebook, Youtube, or my blog, I am well-aware that whatever I release will be critiqued, misrepresentated, and just another piece of wood on the raging fire. I accept the consequences each time and, again and again, understand what might happen. I could step out at any time if I didn't want to deal with the inevitable consequences, but I don't want to.
Well, "too big" and "too small" can both sometimes be legitimate problems in bed; but simply talking about them doesn't automatically count as ridicule.Dave wrote:I have been close enough to some women that they would ignore my maleness (a difficult thing to do!) and engage in such behavior when I was around. From my impression, it happens often enough, but not necessarily "often". Interestingly, they would also complain about a guy being too big.
You, Sir, are a genius (and a misogynist).rocko2466 wrote:Special Song Episode 2
It started because you were away...we had no one to talk about sybians with!ReneeHendricks wrote:I go away for a few days and you guys are talking about penis size? Where the fuck did that come from? :D (refraining from saying size doesn't matter 'cuz you all know that).
Well, I'm assuming this is already mentioned later on, but are you not aware of who started the original periodic table of swearing thread, which lead to the creation of the 'pit? Bwahahahahaha, you're stupid.jose wrote:There are many examples where this hasn't happened. Michael Behe insulted ERV a few years ago apropos of some virus evolution thing. She wrote a post or two about it. And then that was it. ERV didn't set up a forum dedicated to watch everything Michael Behe writes every day in order to look constantly for any chance to ridicule him. She didn't set up twitter accounts to post stuff as if she were Behe, didn't make videos reading Behe texts with a ridiculing voice, didn't dedicate every single blog post for seven months to Behe. Why not?
ERV made fun of Casey Luskin's elf ears. She gave him the finger at some event they went to some years ago. Case Luskin wrote something about how ERV was mean. And then that was it. Nothing similar to this happened. ERV called some creationist guy a fucking moron for talking out of her ass on retroviruses. But then she moved on to other things. She didn't do anything similar to what you guys do here. Luskin didn't either. Why not?
The current thread here has several pages of people saying similar things about AVFM as they do about FTB. Furthermore, our regular criticisms involve dozens of people - pretty much the entirety of FTB, Skepchick, and A+ forums (there are a few exceptions). An entire "movement", if you will. It's not as if we're focusing on 3 or 4 individuals.jose wrote:I don't get the fixation on those specific people. You disagree with lots of people on lots of things. Why keep these in particular on target?
Phil's penis is 16 meters long????Angry_Drunk wrote:I can't help but imagine how excited that graphic will make some people...until they realize the numbers are metric.
Party at ERV's house!!!!ERV wrote:Hey guys-- Big Boy is officially alive. The mother fucker is absolutely working. Since 2009 I have been working on this, and now its working. Fuck. Yeah. I dont know what to do with myself.
About time Monsieur Garnier put his equipment to good use.ERV wrote:Hey guys-- Big Boy is officially alive. The mother fucker is absolutely working. Since 2009 I have been working on this, and now its working. Fuck. Yeah. I dont know what to do with myself.
I'm fairly sure FTB people could just stop blogging nonsense and your calm would be restored ...jose wrote:I don't think Vacula will respond. At least ERV responded.
welch, you look it up. Remember: "piece of work".
I have argued at FTB that you guys should be just ignored and blocked. I'm not friends with any of the bloggers involved so it's not like I'm affected by it, but as a reader it's annoying to me that so many interruptions from you have had a bit of an impact on blogs I frequent. Others have expressed the same opinion including Jen McCreight and Bridget Gaudette. I have told them. They don't want to. I wish they did. And I wish you guys stopped. You don't want to, either. Pity.
I am harassing you, am I not? Alright alright, I don't want to cause you so much pain, or even a little pain, so I'm out. Cheers. ;)
Fuck off! (And fix your avatar!)DGS wrote:This isn't the type of thing you can just drop into, is it? Like when your just winding down with a beer. You guys are up and at it. Always. Would I annoy people by just occasionally dropping in with inane commenst based only on the last 2 posts?
I'm also a bit offended that no one - NO ONE has told me to fuck off yet.
If your asking to be told to fuck off, you're already past the point of being told to fuck offDGS wrote:This isn't the type of thing you can just drop into, is it? Like when your just winding down with a beer. You guys are up and at it. Always. Would I annoy people by just occasionally dropping in with inane commenst based only on the last 2 posts?
I'm also a bit offended that no one - NO ONE has told me to fuck off yet.
Does that make me a failure?Za-zen wrote:If your asking to be told to fuck off, you're already past the point of being told to fuck offDGS wrote:This isn't the type of thing you can just drop into, is it? Like when your just winding down with a beer. You guys are up and at it. Always. Would I annoy people by just occasionally dropping in with inane commenst based only on the last 2 posts?
I'm also a bit offended that no one - NO ONE has told me to fuck off yet.
I'll add to this, they can spout all the fucking crazy they like, but when they insist that atheists, in order to be decent human beings/part of the atheist movement must subscribe to their particular brand of crazy, then they are going be to repeatedly mocked, satired, and generally made to look like the fuckwits they are by atheists who refuse to let ideological woo peddlers turn atheism into a religion.DeepInsideYourMind wrote:I'm fairly sure FTB people could just stop blogging nonsense and your calm would be restored ...jose wrote:I don't think Vacula will respond. At least ERV responded.
welch, you look it up. Remember: "piece of work".
I have argued at FTB that you guys should be just ignored and blocked. I'm not friends with any of the bloggers involved so it's not like I'm affected by it, but as a reader it's annoying to me that so many interruptions from you have had a bit of an impact on blogs I frequent. Others have expressed the same opinion including Jen McCreight and Bridget Gaudette. I have told them. They don't want to. I wish they did. And I wish you guys stopped. You don't want to, either. Pity.
I am harassing you, am I not? Alright alright, I don't want to cause you so much pain, or even a little pain, so I'm out. Cheers. ;)
Or do they *have* to respond to critique of them?
Or is it for affirmation that they aren't really crazy screwed up fucktards?
Don't you think if they had *any* self confidence, or confidence in their ideas, or even (shock horror) evidence ... they would just ignore attacks on them? Hell, even most creationists have enough belief in their own ideas to ignore attacks upon them
rayshul wrote:Fuck off! (And fix your avatar!)DGS wrote:This isn't the type of thing you can just drop into, is it? Like when your just winding down with a beer. You guys are up and at it. Always. Would I annoy people by just occasionally dropping in with inane commenst based only on the last 2 posts?
I'm also a bit offended that no one - NO ONE has told me to fuck off yet.
Yes, you can do that. You just have to read the previous 55,000 posts first, then you can comment on the last 2 posts.DGS wrote:This isn't the type of thing you can just drop into, is it? Like when your just winding down with a beer. You guys are up and at it. Always. Would I annoy people by just occasionally dropping in with inane commenst based only on the last 2 posts?
I'm also a bit offended that no one - NO ONE has told me to fuck off yet.
Congrats.ERV wrote:Hey guys-- Big Boy is officially alive. The mother fucker is absolutely working. Since 2009 I have been working on this, and now its working. Fuck. Yeah. I dont know what to do with myself.
http://reapsowradio.com/graphics/fuckoffmat.jpgDGS wrote:rayshul wrote:Fuck off! (And fix your avatar!)DGS wrote:This isn't the type of thing you can just drop into, is it? Like when your just winding down with a beer. You guys are up and at it. Always. Would I annoy people by just occasionally dropping in with inane commenst based only on the last 2 posts?
I'm also a bit offended that no one - NO ONE has told me to fuck off yet.
Thank YOU!
It's sad.windy wrote:here's another freeze peach-loving libertarian who doesn't care if he offends people :(
http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj5 ... ecc205.png
Well I'm here to fight postmodernism with science.DGS wrote:Can someone give me a pop history here? Are you guys and gals the flotsam and jetsam that floats from the recent schism in American atheism?
Are these threads you guys working out all your isshoos? If they are, I feel like I'm intruding because I don't have any issues having only tangoed with FTB's a very small amount before I realised they were advocating and facilitating free thought as much as Stalin.
Question: what is this forum for?
All genuine questions. Assume good will. I have it in droves :)
Thank you Apples. Okay done the avatar. My hair is much longer now though. Will read that link after I suck up some inane time. I needs it.Apples wrote:Yes, you can do that. You just have to read the previous 55,000 posts first, then you can comment on the last 2 posts.DGS wrote:This isn't the type of thing you can just drop into, is it? Like when your just winding down with a beer. You guys are up and at it. Always. Would I annoy people by just occasionally dropping in with inane commenst based only on the last 2 posts?
I'm also a bit offended that no one - NO ONE has told me to fuck off yet.
As for your avatar, it's a hint that you should use your cute Jennifer Connelly lookalike headshot, so we can objectify you.
http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k48 ... quotes.jpg
As for what this place is all about, this is a good introduction:
http://rationalugandan.wordpress.com/20 ... slime-pit/
Reap wrote:http://reapsowradio.com/graphics/fuckoffmat.jpgDGS wrote:rayshul wrote:Fuck off! (And fix your avatar!)DGS wrote:This isn't the type of thing you can just drop into, is it? Like when your just winding down with a beer. You guys are up and at it. Always. Would I annoy people by just occasionally dropping in with inane commenst based only on the last 2 posts?
I'm also a bit offended that no one - NO ONE has told me to fuck off yet.
Thank YOU!
Everyone on this board is here for their own thing, our common thread is finding great glee in the absurdity that is freefromthought blogs and the stream of woo they vomit. Plus we are all in search of enlightenmentDick Strawkins wrote:Well I'm here to fight postmodernism with science.DGS wrote:Can someone give me a pop history here? Are you guys and gals the flotsam and jetsam that floats from the recent schism in American atheism?
Are these threads you guys working out all your isshoos? If they are, I feel like I'm intruding because I don't have any issues having only tangoed with FTB's a very small amount before I realised they were advocating and facilitating free thought as much as Stalin.
Question: what is this forum for?
All genuine questions. Assume good will. I have it in droves :)
And to make silly photoshop jokes - that have a far greater effect in the atheist community than any reasoned argument can produce (yes, that is sort of sad, but also sort of true.)
Now the interesting thing is the bolded part. "They claim that I encourage it, which is odd, given that I disagreed with it. Odd, but typical." It's interesting because when Jerry posted that tweet, no one here agreed with it. Pretty much everyone gave him flack for it and much deserved, too, given the context. The only thing that we acknowledged about it was that it quite clearly was meant as a joke, however crass or stupid in its delivery. But even though the members of the 'Pit condemned the joke, Ophelia still thought she could, to use her own words, "beat [us] over the head [with it]."
There is also the phawrongula wiki, and the Elevator gate rundown @ freethought kampala (september 11 2011 ). I'm unable to add links at the moment, but I'm sure someone will have already done that by the time I finish typing this.DGS wrote:Can someone give me a pop history here? Are you guys and gals the flotsam and jetsam that floats from the recent schism in American atheism?
Are these threads you guys working out all your isshoos? If they are, I feel like I'm intruding because I don't have any issues having only tangoed with FTB's a very small amount before I realised they were advocating and facilitating free thought as much as Stalin.
Question: what is this forum for?
All genuine questions. Assume good will. I have it in droves :)
How's that going? I sometimes think I'd have what it takes to be a standup but the idea of actually getting up there and trying to make people laugh terrifies me (so I guess I don't).DGS wrote:Though I am now worried I have started some runaway competition between you all. That can only be bad for the group. Let me now vow - in a Sarah Silverman way (I am a budding standup) - to never to fuck any of you! Stand down and back to rational business fellas.
I think it makes us failures. We will have to do better in the future.DGS wrote:Does that make me a failure?Za-zen wrote:If your asking to be told to fuck off, you're already past the point of being told to fuck offDGS wrote:This isn't the type of thing you can just drop into, is it? Like when your just winding down with a beer. You guys are up and at it. Always. Would I annoy people by just occasionally dropping in with inane commenst based only on the last 2 posts?
I'm also a bit offended that no one - NO ONE has told me to fuck off yet.
The thing with Ophelia's lazy blogging habits is that I'm actually wondering if someone might be able to legitimately DMCA her for copyright infringement.Apples wrote:Ophie of course has blogged about it - she appropriately titles her post, "Lazy Blogging, Bad Writing." First she snarks about Sara (Sara blogs about dresses), then justifies her style:Dick Strawkins wrote:Moving on, Sara Mayhew is winding up Ophelia and Svan, nicely. :D/derpOphie wrote:The first word I’ll say about that is “horseshit.†That’s horseshit. It’s not true, not as a generalization. Sometimes summarizing is preferable to quoting, but certainly not always. If it were always preferable, why would the Daily Show use so many clips? The Daily Show is quite popular, and also well thought of. It’s both. It’s considered good tv, good commentary, good humor, good news analysis. Part of what’s good is the use of video clips that show people saying things, so that we can all see exactly what they say and how they say it. A summary would not be better than that for the purposes of the show. The same goes for the Rachel Maddow show and plenty of other shows. The same goes for many many blogs that quote extensively. Some websites do nothing but link to others’ material with a headline and a teaser – like Arts and Letters Daily for example.
Anyway, Ophie, you are supposedly a "columnist" and "author," though you seem to spend incredibly little time writing essays or columns. I guess why that's why you are, for some bizarre reason, talking about TV shows. Also, there's not much wrong with quoting extensively as a writer/blogger, if you are also providing original material. But a 9-to-1 ratio of copy-paste to your own words is pretty tacky. And Ophie, I don't know Jon Stewart -- but I sure as hell know that you are no Jon Stewart, and Butterlies & Squeals is no Daily Show.Because she is so interested in language and rhetoric, that is why she produces so little original or interesting material. Because language. And rhetoric. Wow - I am now dumber for having read that. Also - your copy-pasta is a "new genre?" Holy-fucking-shit, call the Bloggies. God, Ophie, you are dull.Ophie wrote:I’m interested in language and rhetoric, in the words people use and the possible reasons why they use them and the likely effects the words will have. When I’m looking at that I don’t want to summarize, I want to give the actual words, so that readers can see exactly what I’m talking about. This is a new genre that blogging makes possible in a way it wasn’t before. I like the genre, and I use it a lot.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... d-writing/
http://www.freezepage.com/1362175722KVXZVKJOCL
You can post what you like when you like, many people do.DGS wrote:And where's my avatar gone? Did it breach some copyright?
:lol: wait whaaat :shock: wow I thought you were joking.Apples wrote:
As for your avatar, it's a hint that you should use your cute Jennifer Connelly lookalike headshot,
Never EVER gonna happen. Being from the UK I have a smattering of what has happened during this 'schism' (I've pissed Ophelia off big time by using archaic religious language like 'schism' and 'creeds' of feminism - I never meant to, I just thought they were handy terms and, as an actor, I'm playful and I love language...I got nothing but crudities back (not crudités) back. That confused me (didn't make me angry - just wasn't what I was expecting - I'm not an angry person which is why I probably won't contribute to this thread much, other than to dip in and do so lightly)Apples wrote:
Yes, you can do that. You just have to read the previous 55,000 posts first, then you can comment on the last 2 posts.
nah, same guest as from earlier postswelch wrote:that was probably PeeZus. The fact Abbie, in a month, has done more science than he has in the last decade has to burn.
:mrgreen:LMU wrote:I assumed Guest was being humorous. There had just been a number of posts dealing with a very wide interpretation of harassment. So wide that almost anything might be considered harassment. Like: "Go harass the bar for a beer."Mr Danksworth wrote:Nice hit and run post. Drive by trolling is typical creationist behavior. It's nice to see that you have taken their tactics to heart. Well played. You're changing minds one redarded post at a time.Guest wrote:harass someone?ERV wrote:Hey guys-- Big Boy is officially alive. The mother fucker is absolutely working. Since 2009 I have been working on this, and now its working. Fuck. Yeah. I dont know what to do with myself.
Funnier in my head...
Actually only part of the “flotsam and jetsam†following the holing of the S.S. FreefromThoughtBlogs – captained by PZ Myers who should, by rights, go down with his ship which seems to be foundering rather badly these days … :-)DGS wrote:Can someone give me a pop history here? Are you guys and gals the flotsam and jetsam that floats from the recent schism in American atheism?
Are these threads you guys working out all your isshoos? If they are, I feel like I'm intruding because I don't have any issues having only tangoed with FTB's a very small amount before I realised they were advocating and facilitating free thought as much as Stalin.
Question: what is this forum for?
All genuine questions. Assume good will. I have it in droves :)
We're not arguing with them.DGS wrote:Never EVER gonna happen. Being from the UK I have a smattering of what has happened during this 'schism' (I've pissed Ophelia off big time by using archaic religious language like 'schism' and 'creeds' of feminism - I never meant to, I just thought they were handy terms and, as an actor, I'm playful and I love language...I got nothing but crudities back (not crudités) back. That confused me (didn't make me angry - just wasn't what I was expecting - I'm not an angry person which is why I probably won't contribute to this thread much, other than to dip in and do so lightly)Apples wrote:
Yes, you can do that. You just have to read the previous 55,000 posts first, then you can comment on the last 2 posts.
As I'm from the UK though maybe I'm underestimating the 'big deal' that this all might be. The whole atheist movement isn't big here as most people are atheists. From my perspective though, it looks rather than you being excommunicated, you have been freed? (? genuine there)....So when you gonna find closure and gets to business?? Who CARES what Ophelia thinks - or Myres? You already know they are - maybe not wrong on some things - but totally nuts at the moment. I'm a bot worried about them. They're the idiots right now. Stop arguing with them (arguing with idiots makes more gross idiots - like the world needs that [because we're all idiots sometimes - never forget that!]) and work out what this is for...
At some point he converted to feminism and started talking about this Watson woman I hadn't heard of before. It went downhill quickly.Dick Strawkins wrote:It's sad.windy wrote:here's another freeze peach-loving libertarian who doesn't care if he offends people :(
http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/jj5 ... ecc205.png
I liked that PZ.
The one we have now, well, he's changed.
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okay, can I just ask, are you a Jack of the Richard variety?Jack wrote:You can post what you like when you like, many people do.DGS wrote:And where's my avatar gone? Did it breach some copyright?
It think you may be under the impression the Slymepit is alone in condoning the antics at FtB and A+. That is not the case, they have attacked continue to attack many prominent figures. Some who have responded but not here.DGS wrote:Never EVER gonna happen. Being from the UK I have a smattering of what has happened during this 'schism' (I've pissed Ophelia off big time by using archaic religious language like 'schism' and 'creeds' of feminism - I never meant to, I just thought they were handy terms and, as an actor, I'm playful and I love language...I got nothing but crudities back (not crudités) back. That confused me (didn't make me angry - just wasn't what I was expecting - I'm not an angry person which is why I probably won't contribute to this thread much, other than to dip in and do so lightly)Apples wrote:
Yes, you can do that. You just have to read the previous 55,000 posts first, then you can comment on the last 2 posts.
As I'm from the UK though maybe I'm underestimating the 'big deal' that this all might be. The whole atheist movement isn't big here as most people are atheists. From my perspective though, it looks rather than you being excommunicated, you have been freed? (? genuine there)....So when you gonna find closure and gets to business?? Who CARES what Ophelia thinks - or Myres? You already know they are - maybe not wrong on some things - but totally nuts at the moment. I'm a bot worried about them. They're the idiots right now. Stop arguing with them (arguing with idiots makes more gross idiots - like the world needs that [because we're all idiots sometimes - never forget that!]) and work out what this is for...
Guest wrote:
Even sadder than being reminded of Old PZ is seeing Old Pharyngula. Look at the variety of names in that comment thread! So many different people with different opinions. Now it's the same few loudmouths saying the same things again and again. So sad.
It did for me, I assumed you were joking because I'm a bit of a hero like that.Guest wrote:nah, same guest as from earlier postswelch wrote:that was probably PeeZus. The fact Abbie, in a month, has done more science than he has in the last decade has to burn.
was thinking the same dry mockery i was using against josey before would highlight the sarcasm
guess it doesn't carry well :P
So you are Korean?16bitheretic wrote:A message for those who want to police language:
여성 성기
It would be really helpful if these discussions could be broken down. I want to test myself against other (putative) rational minds [!]. I have stuff to learn. I also want to do this more than casually. I think this forum could be a robust platform for that - not just me obviously. Ground rules: civility and the scientific method (because some whipper-snappers and adults who should know better thunks that might is right and that's the lie of the land) it's not. Long live radial progressivism! Who the fuck does that belong to?! <invoke irony - or not - here>rayshul wrote:I have no idea what people are talking about when they talk about women fighting each other in the work place. Is this a thing that happens or is this something made up? Genuine question.
Guest wrote:why is pz harassing poor ophelia by calling her a shallow thinker and superficial censor who is not interested in ideas?
that is totes mean
I don't know who 'of Richard' is so probably no.DGS wrote:okay, can I just ask, are you a Jack of the Richard variety?Jack wrote:You can post what you like when you like, many people do.DGS wrote:And where's my avatar gone? Did it breach some copyright?
We have a number of South American too.Dick Strawkins wrote:
We're not arguing with them.
We are laughing at them the same way Myers used to laugh at creationists.
This is not an angry forum. We are having fun here. :D
It's like a pub.
By the way, I'd guess that compared to FTB this place is far more international - and more mixed in terms of gender and race.
There's quite a few Brits, Colonial Commoners and Europeans here.
I guess most of us have other venues where we talk about other things - atheism, skepticism, politics etc. Here the subject is confined to the latest shenanigans from the FTB bunch as they attempt damage control.
It's kind of a yes or no question. I haven't seen it in any professional organisation I've worked in but I'm not going to discount the idea if it is a genuine thing that occurs in other segments of society/cultures.DGS wrote:It would be really helpful if these discussions could be broken down. I want to test myself against other (putative) rational minds [!]. I have stuff to learn. I also want to do this more than casually. I think this forum could be a robust platform for that - not just me obviously. Ground rules: civility and the scientific method (because some whipper-snappers and adults who should know better thunks that might is right and that's the lie of the land) it's not. Long live radial progressivism! Who the fuck does that belong to?! <invoke irony - or not - here>rayshul wrote:I have no idea what people are talking about when they talk about women fighting each other in the work place. Is this a thing that happens or is this something made up? Genuine question.
Dick, Jack, dick.Jack wrote:I don't know who 'of Richard' is so probably no.DGS wrote:okay, can I just ask, are you a Jack of the Richard variety?Jack wrote:You can post what you like when you like, many people do.DGS wrote:And where's my avatar gone? Did it breach some copyright?
Perhaps, as a dumb Merkin, I'm just mis-reading your British in this section of your quote. It sounds a bit tone trollish to me. Please forgive if you meant something else.DGS wrote:...Ground rules: civility and the scientific method...
Caine, Fleur du mal
March 15, 2010
Boygenius:
Slap me hard enough and I might just call you a cunning stunt.
Hahahahahaha. Oooh, baby.
Yes I thought Dick or even Richard the Third (turd). Didn't work, I'm humour challenged, aka boring bastard.rayshul wrote:Dick, Jack, dick.Jack wrote:I don't know who 'of Richard' is so probably no.DGS wrote:okay, can I just ask, are you a Jack of the Richard variety?Jack wrote:You can post what you like when you like, many people do.DGS wrote:And where's my avatar gone? Did it breach some copyright?
You said it. Calling Pharyngula (and its commenters) a shadow of its former self does a disservice to shadows.Guest wrote: Even sadder than being reminded of Old PZ is seeing Old Pharyngula. Look at the variety of names in that comment thread! So many different people with different opinions. Now it's the same few loudmouths saying the same things again and again. So sad.
*condemningJack wrote: It think you may be under the impression the Slymepit is alone in condoning the antics at FtB and A+.
Nice illustration of how a cult mentality sets in over time.Gumby wrote:You said it. Calling Pharyngula (and its commenters) a shadow of its former self does a disservice to shadows.Guest wrote: Even sadder than being reminded of Old PZ is seeing Old Pharyngula. Look at the variety of names in that comment thread! So many different people with different opinions. Now it's the same few loudmouths saying the same things again and again. So sad.
Okay, I just thought you were someone I might have known in real life who would have known what that meant. But I am playing fast and loose tonight with the scotch so I will always second guess myself. Sorry.Jack wrote:I don't know who 'of Richard' is so probably no.DGS wrote:okay, can I just ask, are you a Jack of the Richard variety?Jack wrote:You can post what you like when you like, many people do.DGS wrote:And where's my avatar gone? Did it breach some copyright?
