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John's been beaten to the punch with his theme park idea:




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https://www.kiteandkeymedia.com/videos/ ... aply-nepa/
America: We’re a land of constant progress. With each passing generation, we get wealthier, more creative, and more dynamic.

Sometimes it seems like there’s nothing we can’t accomplish.

That’s what we told ourselves anyway...

And then a freaking bridge in Massachusetts had to ruin the whole thing.

This is the Anderson Memorial Bridge. It connects Cambridge, Massachusetts with Boston. It probably doesn’t seem important to you unless you’re trying to get to Harvard—in which case you’ve got bigger problems than can be solved by this video. But this bridge actually explains the answer to a question you hear a lot these days: Why can’t America seem to build anything anymore?

How exactly does it explain it? Well, let’s put it this way: When it was constructed in 1915, the Anderson Bridge took only 11 months to build from scratch.i In 2012, when all they had to do was renovate it, it took about five years.

What happened? How is it that despite 100 years of engineering advances the same project now took five times as long? Did we just forget how to build things in the interim?

Sometimes it feels that way. In the 1930s, the Golden Gate Bridge was constructed in less than 4.5 years.ii The Empire State Building was built in one year and 45 days.

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More recently? Boston’s overhaul of its highway system, nicknamed “The Big Dig,” took 15 years and cost more than five times as much as projected.

In 2008, California approved plans for a high-speed rail system that was supposed to travel the nearly 400 miles between Los Angeles and San Francisco by 2020. Instead, it got 119 miles of track nowhere near either city—that might be usable by 2027. iv Literally, more people have ridden this train:

Photo: Harry Kerr (Getty/Stringer)

Now, it’s not as if they did everything right in the old days. Eleven people died building the Golden Gate Bridge. And, given the rule of thumb at the time—one death for every million dollars spent on construction—that was actually considered a success.v

But better safety isn’t the reason America is falling behind. After all, countries like Germany and Canada build new infrastructure much faster and cheaper than we do—and they do it without a body count.

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A big part of the story here in the U.S. is a law called the National Environmental Policy Act. Most people refer to it as NEPA, despite the fact that that makes it sound like an off-brand Pokémon.

NEPA was well-intentioned: its goal was to make sure that new construction factored in environmental concerns.

When it first took effect in the 1970s, the analysis it required from builders before a project could begin would often run less than 10 pages.vii Today, the average is more than 600 pages.

And the average time it takes? More than 4.5 years...to get the paperwork approved!viii

Now maybe it’s all worth it to protect the planet, right? But here’s the craziest part: Nothing about NEPA actually requires that. All you have to do is identify environmental issues. There’s nothing that forces you to actually do anything about them.ix

In fact, in some cases, these regulations actually make us less green.

Plans for the country’s first offshore wind farm, near Martha’s Vineyard, were stuck in the paperwork phase for over three years.x

A desalination plant in San Diego took 12 years, while Californians kept drawing down scarce groundwater.xi

In Montana, the US Forest Service had to wait over two years for approval to thin a forest to protect locals from wildfires. While they were waiting...nearly half the land burned in a wildfire.xii

Not only are these delays dangerous and inefficient, but they also defeat the whole point of big infrastructure proposals. Because it really doesn’t matter how much money we throw at these projects. Under this system, none of them will get built anytime soon anyway.

And by the way, while we’re on the topic of throwing money at these projects...bit of an issue there too.

The U.S. pays way, way too much for our infrastructure. And hang on, Americans, because this involves the metric system...

New York City subways cost over $1 billion per kilometer. The median cost in the rest of the world? $250 million per kilometer. When we had to replace a highway tunnel in Seattle? About $1 billion per kilometer. Cost for a comparable project in Paris? $300 million per kilometer.xiii

And research shows this isn’t about differences in economics or geography. It’s almost all down to bad management.

How bad? In 2017, a report in the New York Times revealed that a crew building a new train tunnel under Manhattan had 200 employees with no identifiable responsibilities—each being paid about $1,000 a day.xiv

It doesn’t have to be this way. Throughout our history, America has produced marvels of engineering and architecture. We’ve done it quickly and cost-effectively. And there’s no reason we can’t do it again.

But if you think we can do it under our current system of regulations... we’ve got a bridge to sell you.

It’ll be ready in 8-10 years.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
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I recently read Roosevelt and Stalin: Portrait of a Partnership by Susan Butler, an incredibly naive dual hagiography that practically fellates both leaders, then blames Truman for fucking up the Four Policeman scheme.

Further back, I read Ivan's War by Catherine Merridale. Interesting insight into a Russian grunt's world, but falls into 'they were just good-hearted socialists' wartime propaganda. Also, Merridale's revolting apologetics for the mass rape committed by the Red Army -- combat had been tough, and German women basically deserved it for not opposing Hitler -- did not sit well with someone whose ex-wife's grandmother and great aunt were raped 50 and 38 times, respectively.
Merridale would have a point if this were the first bout of raping and pillaging indulged in by the Red Army.

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Service Dog wrote:
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And he's giving it for free, no repayments required, in strict contrast to the bankrupting of the UK.
Meh. The British ran a massive spying/blackmail/propaganda/corruption campaign out of Rockfeller Center-- to drag the US into their war.

Seems fair to charge them an arm & a leg for it.
Bit of a mis-characterisation there. Foreign influence campaigns are perfectly normal and expected and there were a few running out of the Rockefeller Centre. It isn't as if the US was unaware of the operation. US intelligence coordinated with the operation in routing international mail through British territory to be monitored. The head of the operation, Stephenson, organised the free transfer of British technology to the US, including the cavity magnetron. Besides, do you think the Soviets weren't running all manner of covert operations against the US?

The US did quite well out of WWI. That was when Britain basically transferred it's wealth across the Atlantic. Britain wasn't only paying for it's own war effort, they were paying a big portion of the expenses of their allies and US industry was raking in the money.

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Highly recommended book.... Charles Murry - "Losing Ground." A detailed account of how US social welfare programs changed the culture. The major changes being that... in the 1960s poor people would proudly say "We are not rich but we always get by.... and I have never taken a dime from anyone". Once the Feds flooded the poor with welfare you felt like a patsy if you didn't take the free money. Having a job and working quickly lost its honor. Taking government money was no longer shameful... and indeed... the government was tasked with proving to people that they deserved free money.

I was very upset when I got temporarily laid off during Covid. I had never been unemployed in my life and I had never used unemployment insurance. I was very proud of this record...but... everyone told me I was being silly.... that I should just take the money since I deserve it. Yep.... I didn't want to be a patsy.

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John D wrote: The "god-shaped hole" idea is a metaphor. Of course, you know this...
Indeed - it's one of those things that Marx was so appreciative of.

Well, Groucho at least.

People can and will find - Hope, Meaning and Purpose - in whatever way they want...but, if they are going to build it on the shakey ground of someone rising from the dead then they are going to have to get used to others asking questions.

And no - I don't think that is something that can just be glossed over - in fact it's kind of a big deal to those that take such things seriously.
I listened to Andrew Sullivan's podcast this week in which he talks to Charles Murray. This link might work, although it is really a subscriber only podcast. In it Murray says he is now a Christian, but his reasoning for the change (welcomed without exploration by Sullivan) appears to be a Dennett-like belief in belief—Christian values stop societies falling apart as most are not capable of behaving without outside supervision, ergo I have become a Christian to show my support for this, kind of thing. He does not mention in any way that he has accepted the faintly ridiculous notions underpinning the religion. I guess I can have some respect for that position, buying into the social good without taking the claptrap literally, but I'm surprised at Murray doing it if that is the case as it is hardly the kind of intellectual honesty one expects from him. Perhaps being 78 he feels he must hedge his bets.
Anyway, that is only a tiny part of the podcast, and the rest is worth a listen.

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The US did quite well out of WWI. That was when Britain basically transferred it's wealth across the Atlantic.
Naw... upward of 100,000 dead US WWI soldiers? No thanks.
It isn't as if the US was unaware of the operation.
'the US' doesn't function correctly if 'the US' doesn't include the voters. The voters didn't know the british were using spies to write slanted news stories-- to propagandize us into WW2. The voters didn't know anti-war politicians were being systematically eliminated by british spies-- using tactics such as honeypot traps.
Besides, do you think the Soviets weren't running all manner of covert operations against the US?
Of course they were. Stooping to the level of bolsheviks aint-exactly a glowing yelp review of brit behavior.

Fun listening: Conspiracy-minded libertarians discussing James Bond movies as a psy-op, with origins in Cecil Rhodes attempting to re-colonize the US:

https://schoolsucksproject.com/podcast- ... e-warrior/

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The US had no valid national interest in entering WWI. The sentiment of the general public was pro-neutrality, with that of the large German and Irish immigrant population either pro-Central Powers or anti-British. A small circle of plutocrats desired war and on the side of the Entente. They cranked up the propaganda machine -- the Zimmermann Telegraph, which sounds on par with the shit the Brits were pulling described above; Lusitania, which turns out to have been carrying armaments for Britain ... and a handful of plutocrat passengers.

Wilson's Fourteen Points were either injurious only to the Central Powers, or ignored after the war ended. Wilson was pretty much a dick in all aspects.

Niall Ferguson in The Pity of War argues persuasively that Great Britain had no valid national interest in entering WWI.

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screwtape wrote: Murray says he is now a Christian, but his reasoning for the change (welcomed without exploration by Sullivan) appears to be a Dennett-like belief in belief—Christian values stop societies falling apart as most are not capable of behaving without outside supervision, ergo I have become a Christian to show my support for this, kind of thing. He does not mention in any way that he has accepted the faintly ridiculous notions underpinning the religion. I guess I can have some respect for that position, buying into the social good without taking the claptrap literally, but I'm surprised at Murray doing it if that is the case as it is hardly the kind of intellectual honesty one expects from him. Perhaps being 78 he feels he must hedge his bets.
The more I hear from Charles Murray, the more I am impressed with his perspicacity.

I was unaware he wasn't previously Christian. This 'Cultural Christian' thing is a bit like Jordan Peterson's, except Peterson believes someone is sending him messages through dreams. I've known plenty of 'cultural' Jews who celebrated all the holy days. I was friends with an atheist gal who fastidiously kept a kosher kitchen, down to sweeping cracks and crevices with a toothbrush for leavened crumbs. But I suspect the cultural christian thing is a bit different --like you say, a public gesture of support for traditional values in opposition to nihilistic pomo/neo-marxist offal.

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Yeah... life is strange. I am going backpacking next week in one of the best spots in Michigan ... Porcupine Mountains. They are barely mountains by most standards.... I understand. I have hiked through Glacier and Mt. Ranier... so I know about mountains. But... this park is delightful... isolated flowing streams over multi-colored stones... escarpments 1000 feet above Lake Superior... ancient deciduous forest.... rocky fresh water beaches. One of my favorite spots on Earth.

Anyway. I will hike with three friends for 6 days.

The only book I will bring is the King James version of the Bible. So... yeah... this is how my hard atheism has been expressed to me.

I total get what Murray is saying.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
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The US had no valid national interest in entering WWI. The sentiment of the general public was pro-neutrality, with that of the large German and Irish immigrant population either pro-Central Powers or anti-British. A small circle of plutocrats desired war and on the side of the Entente. They cranked up the propaganda machine -- the Zimmermann Telegraph, which sounds on par with the shit the Brits were pulling described above; Lusitania, which turns out to have been carrying armaments for Britain ... and a handful of plutocrat passengers.

Wilson's Fourteen Points were either injurious only to the Central Powers, or ignored after the war ended. Wilson was pretty much a dick in all aspects.

Niall Ferguson in The Pity of War argues persuasively that Great Britain had no valid national interest in entering WWI.
I would disagree about there being no valid national interest. It is an arguable point. The treaty with Belgium was not negotiable though. Abandoning treaties out of self-interest tends to be frowned upon. The Germans mistakenly calculated that Britain would abandon the Belgians.

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Lsuoma wrote: WW1 as a bar fight.jpg
WWII: Germany comes back and burns down the bar with everyone inside.

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ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: I would disagree about there being no valid national interest. It is an arguable point. The treaty with Belgium was not negotiable though. Abandoning treaties out of self-interest tends to be frowned upon. The Germans mistakenly calculated that Britain would abandon the Belgians.
Britain and France were prepared to violate Belgian neutrality, had Germany not done so first. It was a post-hoc rationale -- Britain had committed herself via secret treaty to come to France's, not Belgium's, aid. As Ferguson points out, defensive treaties are supposed to be openly announced, as a deterrent to aggression. The secret treaty can only be interpreted as a deliberate sucker-punch.

Further, Germany posed no real grand strategic threat to Britain; France ever did.

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John D wrote: I will hike with three friends for 6 days.
If you took 6 friends, you could do it in 3 days.

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screwtape wrote: I listened to Andrew Sullivan's podcast this week in which he talks to Charles Murray. This link might work, although it is really a subscriber only podcast. In it Murray says he is now a Christian, but his reasoning for the change (welcomed without exploration by Sullivan) appears to be a Dennett-like belief in belief—Christian values stop societies falling apart as most are not capable of behaving without outside supervision, ergo I have become a Christian to show my support for this, kind of thing. He does not mention in any way that he has accepted the faintly ridiculous notions underpinning the religion. I guess I can have some respect for that position, buying into the social good without taking the claptrap literally, but I'm surprised at Murray doing it if that is the case as it is hardly the kind of intellectual honesty one expects from him. Perhaps being 78 he feels he must hedge his bets.
Anyway, that is only a tiny part of the podcast, and the rest is worth a listen.
Well I was raised catholic - so I'm quite familiar with the god I don't believe in. And protestants, baptists, methodists and lutherans (et al) don't seem much of a better fit. The calvinists seem to have a clearer view of things - but I'm not electing to join them.

The 'new atheists' (yes, I'm still hanging on to the scare quotes and lack of capitalisation) - by which most boil it down to the four horsemen - were more of a social movement against fundamentalism than anything else. I bring them up in order to not to bring them up. Like the Zax the world has moved on and believe it or not (which I suppose is the crux of things) fundamentalism of various strains has generated a new generation of those who strongly don't think those traditions work particularly well - and some at least take a more philosophical approach.

On YouTube I enjoy the likes of:

Robert Price (conservative)
Pinecreek (conservative)
Graham Oppy (Australian philosopher)
The Non Alchemist
Paulogia

Perhaps the worst effect of the atheistic pushback is the rise of apologists- who always seem to me to be not taking an honest approach (even if they do believe what they say). And the best effect of religion is to create an interest in history and philosophy.

Speaking of...this seems to be getting some good press by those in the know...




Though that is the Kindle version - so may be not as much use the the KJV to take along on a camping trip.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
John D wrote: I will hike with three friends for 6 days.
If you took 6 friends, you could do it in 3 days.
I guess we'll have to see if the lessons learned re: the Dyatlov Pass incident are the recipe for success.

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MarcusAu wrote: The calvinists seem to have a clearer view of things - but I'm not electing to join them.
Was that meant as a pun?

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Was that meant as a pun?
Ask me no questions...

Just glad to see that it's not just myself I'm keeping amused.

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MarcusAu wrote:
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John D wrote: I will hike with three friends for 6 days.
If you took 6 friends, you could do it in 3 days.
I guess we'll have to see if the lessons learned re: the Dyatlov Pass incident are the recipe for success.
Depends if they're walking in an area populated by bigfeet, roving bands of radioactive Russian super-soldiers, cannibalistic locals and low-flying reptizoid spacecraft.

Because, y'know, it's all plausible. :P

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Freud blamed Woodrow Wilson for the collapse of the Austro-Hungarian empire, and called him a faggot.

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screwtape wrote: In it Murray says he is now a Christian, but his reasoning for the change (welcomed without exploration by Sullivan) appears to be a Dennett-like belief in belief—Christian values stop societies falling apart as most are not capable of behaving without outside supervision, ergo I have become a Christian to show my support for this, kind of thing. He does not mention in any way that he has accepted the faintly ridiculous notions underpinning the religion. I guess I can have some respect for that position, buying into the social good without taking the claptrap literally, but I'm surprised at Murray doing it if that is the case as it is hardly the kind of intellectual honesty one expects from him. Perhaps being 78 he feels he must hedge his bets.
I've also seen a number of people suggest LARP-ing religion until it becomes real, so he could also be going down that path.

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Keating wrote: Freud blamed Woodrow Wilson for the collapse of the Austro-Hungarian empire, and called him a faggot.
A wise man once said "The arc of history bends towards Wilson fucking someone in the arse".

Or words to that effect.

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Bloody hell. It turns out at least one extinction rebellion type has a brain and has actually used it.

The Sad Truth About Traditional Environmentalism

She's stopped worrying and learned to love the controlled fission. BTW, anyone else notice the Chinese have run a tokamak at 16million ºC for 101 seconds? Maybe we will get fission one day....

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John D wrote: God-shaped hole. Years ago, I didn't think this was a thing.... but it is.
Someday, in a hundred thousand years, an A.I. will resurrect mankind from dried crusts of Dr. Richard Carrier PhD.'s semen (collected from the glued-together pages of a Gideon Bible, discovered in a hotel elevator shaft in faraway Dublin)...

And Lo! A long-winded debate shall occur! Between those who believe there was no historical "John D"... versus those who show contemporaneous evidence of John D's existence-- citing Gideon Bible publication date.

The latter faction will opine that John D was also known as John the Baptist. And they will be basically right. Close enough for government work.

For it was John D who attempted to replace a hymnbook-shaped hole in himself, with a secular Sunday music service, only to be thwarted Pharisees and Gelatinous Cubes & such.

But, eventually, John D's musical hole-- was filled perfectly & gloriously, with 'Mongoloid', which explains so very much about this God fellow.

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Bhurzum wrote:
MarcusAu wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
John D wrote: I will hike with three friends for 6 days.
If you took 6 friends, you could do it in 3 days.
I guess we'll have to see if the lessons learned re: the Dyatlov Pass incident are the recipe for success.
Depends if they're walking in an area populated by bigfeet, roving bands of radioactive Russian super-soldiers, cannibalistic locals and low-flying reptizoid spacecraft.

Because, y'know, it's all plausible. :P
And John -- if you come across any mongs playing banjo, get the hell outa there.

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Another amusement park adopts John's business model:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/0 ... ark-video/

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
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ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: I would disagree about there being no valid national interest. It is an arguable point. The treaty with Belgium was not negotiable though. Abandoning treaties out of self-interest tends to be frowned upon. The Germans mistakenly calculated that Britain would abandon the Belgians.
Britain and France were prepared to violate Belgian neutrality, had Germany not done so first. It was a post-hoc rationale -- Britain had committed herself via secret treaty to come to France's, not Belgium's, aid. As Ferguson points out, defensive treaties are supposed to be openly announced, as a deterrent to aggression. The secret treaty can only be interpreted as a deliberate sucker-punch.

Further, Germany posed no real grand strategic threat to Britain; France ever did.
Britain's treaty with Belgium wasn't secret though, was it? The British did not give the impression that they would abandon Belgium so I hardly think you can say Germany was sucker-punched when they initiated hostilities in the hope that Britain would ignore their obligation. There was no "rationale" needed, Germany entered Belgium and Britain honoured the treaty.

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ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: Britain's treaty with Belgium wasn't secret though, was it? The British did not give the impression that they would abandon Belgium so I hardly think you can say Germany was sucker-punched when they initiated hostilities in the hope that Britain would ignore their obligation. There was no "rationale" needed, Germany entered Belgium and Britain honoured the treaty.
Britain was a signatory to the Treaty of London that established Belgium's borders and neutrality. There was no military alliance between Britain and Belgium.

Britain did have a secret defensive military treaty with France. It was Germany's declaration of war against France, not its ultimatum to Belgium, that triggered Britain's declaration of war. The violation of Belgian neutrality was merely a cover story. Other, diplomatic, options were available to Britain.

As noted, Britain and France had war plans drawn up to enter Belgium in event of war with Germany.

I'm not defending Germany's action -- it was one of a string of boneheaded acts of hubris by the dipshit Kaiser and his talentless sycophants.

The winners always bedeck themselves in noble intentions, when everybody's hands are always covered in shit and blood.

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The Treaty of London was always regarded as binding the signatories to protect Belgian Independence. Britain, as one of the signatories, had promised to do so and the Germans knew this even if they disputed it later. No military alliance required.

Whatever backroom deals were made between Britain and France, it was Germany who initiated hostilities. While Germany were not paranoid about being squeezed between Russia and France, it was they who broke the Treaty of London. It's doubtful that Britain would have entered a European war if Germany had not acted because pacifist feelings in Britain would have made it politically untenable even if it was in the British interest to prevent Germany becoming an uncontested dominant power in Europe with access to French Ports.

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Babylon Bee's exclusive new trove of Fauci emails...

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ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: The Treaty of London was always regarded as binding the signatories to protect Belgian Independence. Britain, as one of the signatories, had promised to do so and the Germans knew this even if they disputed it later. No military alliance required.

Whatever backroom deals were made between Britain and France, it was Germany who initiated hostilities. While Germany were not paranoid about being squeezed between Russia and France, it was they who broke the Treaty of London. It's doubtful that Britain would have entered a European war if Germany had not acted because pacifist feelings in Britain would have made it politically untenable even if it was in the British interest to prevent Germany becoming an uncontested dominant power in Europe with access to French Ports.
Asquith and his general staff had concluded a secret defensive military treaty with France, surely because they knew public opinion would've been strongly against it. So, regardless of Belgium, once France mobilized, Britain was sucked into a war. Since France had been champing at the bit for 'Revanche', it was only a matter of time. Alsace meant a hill of beans to Britain. Serbia, another hill of beans.

I doubt if anyone at the time feared a Franco-German war would end in Germany permanently occupying France and its ports. The outcome could well have been France as an "uncontested dominant continental power", and thus a greater threat to the British colonial empire. Not to mention the Balkans and Bosphorus in Russian hands, something definitely not in Britain's interests. Pitching in with her two greatest global rivals was madness.

Aloofness and diplomacy had served Britain well in the past, and would have in 1914, too. Britain had successfully resolved the Fashoda and Dogger Bank incidents through diplomacy. War over Belgium, when a diplomatic solution was viable, offered no value-add. Further, the outrage was feigned and hypocritical, as Britain and France had plans on the table for invading Belgium. Nor was Britain ever shy about violating neutrality herself: e.g., Egypt, Copenhagen, US waters and fishing fleets. Later, in 1940, the Royal Navy brazenly violated neutral Norway's waters, and the general staff drew up plans to preemptively invade Norway and on into Sweden to seize its iron ore mines.

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Read 'violating sovereignty or neutrality' for 'violating neutrality'

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So what ypou're saying is that no matter what treaties, agreements, alliances, whatever, powerful countries will always do what the fuck they want if they think they can get away with it.

Who would have thought!!!

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Also, the new Ajax is apparently not fit for purpose. And later. And over budget.

Tanks a million, General Dynamics.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-57348573

Why the fuck can't people engineer things properly any more?

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Lsuoma wrote: So what ypou're saying is that no matter what treaties, agreements, alliances, whatever, powerful countries will always do what the fuck they want if they think they can get away with it.

Who would have thought!!!
Perish the thought. Us'n's are always nobly motivated - it's all y'all who are bad.

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It's official: young, liberal, white women are mentally ill:

https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/over- ... -condition

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Lsuoma wrote: Also, the new Ajax is apparently not fit for purpose. And later. And over budget.

Tanks a million, General Dynamics.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-57348573

Why the fuck can't people engineer things properly any more?
Maybe if the customer would get their specification correct and not change it!!!!

from the article...
"Defence experts say many of the problems stem from additional armour protection being put on the original hull, which has seen an increase in weight from 19 to more than 40 tonnes."

At 40 tonnes it is not even close to the original vehicle.

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screwtape wrote: Bloody hell. It turns out at least one extinction rebellion type has a brain and has actually used it.

The Sad Truth About Traditional Environmentalism

She's stopped worrying and learned to love the controlled fission. BTW, anyone else notice the Chinese have run a tokamak at 16million ºC for 101 seconds? Maybe we will get fission one day....
She must have read "Apocalypse Never" by Shellenberger . I recommend it.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Bhurzum wrote:
MarcusAu wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
John D wrote: I will hike with three friends for 6 days.
If you took 6 friends, you could do it in 3 days.
I guess we'll have to see if the lessons learned re: the Dyatlov Pass incident are the recipe for success.
Depends if they're walking in an area populated by bigfeet, roving bands of radioactive Russian super-soldiers, cannibalistic locals and low-flying reptizoid spacecraft.

Because, y'know, it's all plausible. :P
And John -- if you come across any mongs playing banjo, get the hell outa there.
Shit... now you have me thinking.... I wasn't planning on taking my pistol because it is pretty heavy to carry for a week.... and now I am second guessing.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote: It's official: young, liberal, white women are mentally ill:

https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/over- ... -condition
The medicalization of mental issues is super interesting.

So... when I was coming up... in the good old 1970s... there were very few people diagnosed with mental disease. If someone had an issue it was really serious, like manic-depression or schizophrenia, etc. Also, most people kept their issues private because...well... no one wanted to be known as being crazy.

My wife and I were never diagnosed with anything... but... I am sure we would be under today's standards. My wife would be diagnosed with anxiety disorder and ADD. I know this because her symptoms are the same as my daughter (who has been diagnosed with even has milder symptoms). I would have at least mild OCD. I know this because my other daughter has been diagnose with milder symptoms than I have.

and so... us old people had to just muddle through. We learned to live with our issues. We learned about who and what we were. We adjusted our lives and behaviors so we could get by in the world, despite our imperfections. We survived and, through constant struggle, developed a kind of wisdom about ourselves... a knowledge of who and what we were.

Today, all the younger people are medicalizing mental problems. The shit we just learned to live will with now have a list of psych meds. I think this prevents people from knowing themselves. What they only know is who they are while on drugs. And... if things aren't working out they scout out a new doctor or a new drug. "Hey doc.... this drug is not working for me anymore."

Further, since mental issues are now assumed to be medical issues you can poke and prod... you can discuss... and reflect... you can navel gaze (along with your friends) about what is wrong with you and what your "treatment" should be. It is almost something young people like to brag about.

My wife's solution to her social anxiety was to limit the number of parties she would have with strangers... and she dedicated herself to a small but close personal group of friends. My daughter's solution is to take drugs and claim she has a disease. My wife's solution to her ADD was to seek employment situations where the social demands would keep her productive and on task. My daughter's solution is to take drugs.....

Things are not better now.

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I guess I am chatty again today.

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The 'anti-vaxxer' label loses its punch...

...when you read about Sinovac (the CCP Big Pharma company) and their export-product: Coronavac (a 50.38% effective jab)...

"Nations that have relied on Coronavac or other Chinese products for their vaccination programs, like Seychelles and Chile, have experienced large surges in the number of coronavirus cases occurring alongside an increase in the number of fully vaccinated people, suggesting poor performance by the vaccines.

As a result, Sinovac and the Chinese government have considered a third “booster” dose or blending the product with more successful vaccines but have not officially recommended either of these paths as they currently remain a matter of experimentation."

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2 ... ine-doses/

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RIP Doc Neeson. d. 4 June 2014


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Lsuoma wrote: Also, the new Ajax is apparently not fit for purpose. And later. And over budget.

Tanks a million, General Dynamics.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-57348573

Why the fuck can't people engineer things properly any more?
Oh, I don't know. It's good for cleaning off the smears in the bowl.

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Rowdy Yates is down!

At least according to the latest 2000AD story.


Now there's a reference not too many would find themselves contemporaneous with.

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John D wrote: Shit... now you have me thinking.... I wasn't planning on taking my pistol because it is pretty heavy to carry for a week.... and now I am second guessing.
Once again - I find myself preparing to take a position if not counter, or contrary - then at least different to your own.

My new deckchair arrived today - and I'll going to try it out.


Perhaps we can open up to book recommendations for your sojourn in the wilderness - though you may need a kindle (or alternate) if there are too many.

I'll start things off...

Boy Scouts Manual
Regional Guide to US Birds or Trees ( including "The Larch") / Less Regional Guide to the Constellations
Something by Walt Whitman or Thoreau
American Wilderness - sounds interesting


Hope it all goes well and you find it both mentally and physically detoxifying.

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Service Dog wrote: Judge Vaxx
Could be worse - other searches give links to Clint Eastwood singing.

Certainly better prognosis than for Jig Saw disease, or what happened to Jim Grubb.

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MarcusAu wrote:
I'll start things off...

Boy Scouts Manual
Regional Guide to US Birds or Trees ( including "The Larch") / Less Regional Guide to the Constellations
Something by Walt Whitman or Thoreau
American Wilderness - sounds interesting


Hope it all goes well and you find it both mentally and physically detoxifying.
Thanks for the suggestions.

1) I am a pretty good birder already. I can identify almost any bird I will find.
2) I am hiking with a biology professor. He can ID the trees, edible plants and mushrooms, and tell endless stories about certain insect types.
3) Read the Boy Scout Manual years ago. I am not very good with my knots. Other than that I have got things covered well. (I once met a Navy Seal while backpacking and we stayed at the same sight.... That SOB was a master with knots! Fucking amazing. He made knots I had never seen before. Backpacking to that guy was a pleasure cruise.)
4) Whitman and Thoreau... I will consider... but I don't have time to order before I leave.

No media for six days. YES!

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Bringing your pistol camping reminds me of The Deerhunter.

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Fang called me yesterday, one of his knucklehead friends from growing-up-- warned him to 'make sure your mother doesn't drink tap water, they're going to put a rabies-like disease in it.' Same knucklehead recently attributed electrical problems in his building to 'Archons', which are apparently demons in power lines.

I said 'there's enough actual crazy stuff happening in the news these days, why would people feel the need to chase-after even-more wild X-files stuff?'
(Fang was unaware of recent UFO news, or the Wuhan Lab Leak Cover-Up, or Hunter Biden's latest round of corrupt gossip.)

Fang scoffed at his knucklehead friend, but also admitted it made him worry-- like being spooked by a campfire ghost story. I told Fang that fear is one way to navigate-- Life can become a long checklist of avoidance-- wear a mask, sanitize your hands, keep 6' apart, never say anything 'offensive' or controversial. This becomes self-reinforcing habit. So when a new item is added to the fear/avoid checklist "Don't drink the tap water, it might contain rabies"-- it's easier to just add another item to the list, than figure-out whether the new fear is realistic. The potential downside is so catastrophic, that the slim odds of the downside occurring-- seem outweighed by the risk.

Soon, the very act of making decisions for-yourself feels scary, uncertain-- a danger to avoid. Fang is turning-into a jumpy, confused old lady.

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Tucker Carlson's monologue yesterday-- makes the case that bio researchers circled-their-wagons last year, to cover-up the Wuhan virus leak fiasco, for fear that the bio researchers' flow of taxpayer grant money-- might be impeded. I think the Fauci emails are underwhelming-- not as damning as Fauci's critics hope-- but the emails are an doorway-into the enormous corrupt consensus Tucker is exposing:



I felt vindicated by Tucker Carlson connecting-the-dots... including suspicious-stuff which I posted-about, on September 10, 2020:

https://slymepit.com/phpbb/viewtopic.ph ... th#p498548

I've started reading the Vanity Fair article, which is the basis for the Tucker Carlson monologue:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06 ... 9s-origins

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For me, the creepy-est aspect of the Vanity Fair exposé, is that it tells a story of institutional groupthink, and corrupt gaslighting-- emanating from a military/industrial/medical/political/fake-news 'deep state'... AND YET!... the Vanity Fair article itself repeatedly parrots the institutional groupthink and corrupt gaslighting... regarding Donald Trump's "racism" and "xenophobia" vs. Communist China and their pawns at the WHO & the medical/political establishment.

Vanity Fair fails to connect-the-dots which show the campaign to smear Trump as 'racist' was PART OF the cover-up of bureaucrats being connected-to Wuhan's virus fuck-up.

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Which brings us to another, simultaneous, story in the news cycle: Biden going to Tulsa to commemorate the race riot/"massacre"/shitshow on 'Black Wall Street' in 1921.

Allow me to connect a few dots, over there:

*Patrice Cullors... (Patriarchy Colors, lol!)... the communist BLM co-founder who bought herself a lot of houses with donation money... officially resigned from BLM.

*Mothers of dead black poster boys-- such as Tamir Rice's mother-- said that BLM used their sons' names to raise money, but the money never trickled-back to the mothers & their communities. Local BLM chapters said the same thing about national-BLM.

*Meanwhile in Tulsa, a big event commemorating 1921... was abruptly cancelled when alleged 'survivors ' & descendants-of-survivors... issued a last-minute ultimatum, demanding a $1million-each paycheck for participating in the event. SOMEBODY is scamming here... is it the supposed survivors&descendants grubbing to be paid more-- for the honor of being honored? Or is it the organizers of the literal racial-outrage festival... who were putting on a big show which didn't really benefit the supposed beneficiaries?

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How crazy is it that the 2019 Watchmen TV series was about 1921 Tulsa, + a false flag terror plot to control society, + white supremacist cops in masks!!!


In a more-perfect world, we'd be at the Season Finale of the real world version of that Watchmen show. The Wuhan Cover-up Complex would be crumbling... and the BLM racial grievance complex would be crumbling... and the Trump Dogwhistle Racism Hoax which both complexes rely-on... would also melt like jet fuel on steel beams.


We'd be living-in the last few pages of 12th issue of the original Watchmen comics... when the Cold War world flooshed into history & an uncharted wide-open future appeared to be dawning.

Maybe we're close to that. But I think we still have-to endure a cataclysmic shockwave, first.


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Keating wrote: I've also seen a number of people suggest LARP-ing religion until it becomes real, so he could also be going down that path.
Fake it till you make it - as the saying goes.

I'm willing to give the religious the benefit of the doubt (Thomas was one of theirs after all). In that they are sincere and genuine in their belief and experience of the numinous.

There may be many who have come to a different position on things than me due to their personal experience, inner testimony, or alternate mental state. (After all psychedelics are a kind of evidence for the supernatural).

Not sure about christian being a proxy for western identity either. But others mileage may vary on that one too.

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John D wrote:
MarcusAu wrote:
I'll start things off...

Boy Scouts Manual
Regional Guide to US Birds or Trees ( including "The Larch") / Less Regional Guide to the Constellations
Something by Walt Whitman or Thoreau
American Wilderness - sounds interesting


Hope it all goes well and you find it both mentally and physically detoxifying.
Thanks for the suggestions.

1) I am a pretty good birder already. I can identify almost any bird I will find.
2) I am hiking with a biology professor. He can ID the trees, edible plants and mushrooms, and tell endless stories about certain insect types.
3) Read the Boy Scout Manual years ago. I am not very good with my knots. Other than that I have got things covered well. (I once met a Navy Seal while backpacking and we stayed at the same sight.... That SOB was a master with knots! Fucking amazing. He made knots I had never seen before. Backpacking to that guy was a pleasure cruise.)
4) Whitman and Thoreau... I will consider... but I don't have time to order before I leave.

No media for six days. YES!
The Peregrine by J.A. Baker.

I think it's readily available again now in physical form (it was tough to get for a very long time), and is also available electronically.

BTW, if anyone here buys Kindle books, or borrows them from their libraries, I strongly recommend getting the Calibre ebook management software. It's the Swiss Army Knife of ebooks, and can even strip out DRM from pretty much everything, with a suitable plug-in. Search for DeDRM or something similar.

VERY VERY VERY strongly recommended. The author is a guy called Kovid (sic) Goyal, and Amazon tried to hire him, primarily to stop the distribution of Calibre. Now it's out there under GPL - yay!

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2000AD and Dave Gibbons have both been referenced...

But I still can't quite shoe-horn in a context to post something about 'Charlie, Hero of Northpool'.

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John D wrote: He can ID the trees, edible plants and mushrooms...
Sound's almost godly...

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Which brings us to another, simultaneous, story in the news cycle: Biden going to Tulsa to commemorate the race riot/"massacre"/shitshow on 'Black Wall Street' in 1921.

Allow me to connect a few dots, over there:

*Patrice Cullors... (Patriarchy Colors, lol!)... the communist BLM co-founder who bought herself a lot of houses with donation money... officially resigned from BLM.

*Mothers of dead black poster boys-- such as Tamir Rice's mother-- said that BLM used their sons' names to raise money, but the money never trickled-back to the mothers & their communities. Local BLM chapters said the same thing about national-BLM.

*Meanwhile in Tulsa, a big event commemorating 1921... was abruptly cancelled when alleged 'survivors ' & descendants-of-survivors... issued a last-minute ultimatum, demanding a $1million-each paycheck for participating in the event. SOMEBODY is scamming here... is it the supposed survivors&descendants grubbing to be paid more-- for the honor of being honored? Or is it the organizers of the literal racial-outrage festival... who were putting on a big show which didn't really benefit the supposed beneficiaries?
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I suspect you'd find a tiny proportion of black race activists to be anything other than greedy cynics. The UK has a particularly clownish example in the senior ranks of the Labour Party, one Diane Abbott. Her delivery is rather slow and affected sounding, which makes her come across as a dull-witted clown , which impression she reinforces with frequent errors. She is generally regarded as being a bit dense and one of Labour's diversity hires, which tells you about the quality of Labour since the Conservatives manage to find some very competent non-white front benchers. She isn't the sincere but incompetent fool people take her for, she's just not interested enough to educate herself properly but she isn't stupid. She is all about Diane Abbott, as this guy explains:

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Shit... now you have me thinking.... I wasn't planning on taking my pistol because it is pretty heavy to carry for a week.... and now I am second guessing.
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Take your new Buck Mark, the one you're gonna buy tomorrow. And watch Paul Harrell's recent three-part video on surviving in the wild.

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Service Dog wrote: Bringing your pistol camping reminds me of The Deerhunter.
This is this.

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