If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

I'm not sure I'd be confident enough to mail my work colleagues about how I enjoyed playing with my (and other people's) semen, but then I'm not Richard Carrier. I'm not even a Bhurzum. So, that would be something to see. That's because you aren't a sigma male like Richard Carrier. Maybe there is s...

OK, folks. I have decided to release - selectively - some of the FfTB back channel emails. Let me know if there are any subjects you're particularly interested in, and I'll se if there are any hot 'n' juicy nuggets. Can't promise, but let's take a looksee. As I said earlier, these are from late 201...

Similar thing with the Catholic Church of 1200 and later - initially supportive of science and reason, but as soon as it conflicted with religious dogma - with what feels good in contradistinction to what is actually true - then it was all too quick to come down on science and that "spirit of inqui...

And where - exactly - have I or anyone else - been using any sort of "faith in progress" to justify the claim that transwomen are women [adult humans with functional ovaries]? I'll wait ... You want to do this in Service Dogs playpen? I'm happy to keep dancing if you are. Nope. He can avert his eye...

Butler Shaffer takes a liberal conception of value for granted - that value as determined by market forces Is there really such a thing as a liberal concept of value? I'd always thought of different theories of value that operated in the 18th and 19th centuries as representing different strands of ...

Steersman wrote: ↑ And where - exactly - have I or anyone else - been using any sort of "faith in progress" to justify the claim that transwomen are women [adult humans with functional ovaries]? I'll wait ...

You want to do this in Service Dogs playpen? I'm happy to keep dancing if you are.

Her error is that OSHA should not require spark-guards and sprinkler systems at yoga studios, sailboats, lemonade stands... as a one-size-fits all way to "stop sparks" in the places which do have big electric machines. OSHA's Covid mandate is too broad. Wichita Linemen & Lonely Maytag Repairmen & I...

Maybe we should set up Sotomayor and Steerz on a blind date. I think they'd hit it off. I imagine scintillating dinner conversation about when a person is a human, or just a machine with honorary human status. Whilst you're match-making, can you hook me up with Jessica Collins? https://thumbs.gfyca...

I see the libertarians have made an effort to defend Scrooge (iin his pre-reform state). Article: https://mises.org/library/case-ebenezer or if you prefer Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TSFrsJD_Ow That reminds me of a Christmas message from somebody I follow. Due to the deflationary envi...

Lsuoma wrote: ↑ Fuck it, I see no reason not to keep it open - it's co-hosted on a server that has a couple of paying sites, si I'll just let it roll along...

:-) Thank you! A New Year miracle.

The Pit lives!

Steersman complains that I appoint myself his master. That I'm the boss who gets to tell him what to do. Yep. Everyone who engages in a dialogue is entitled to apply whatever minimum standards they feel is appropriate. He can follow my rules, or fuck off. But if I let him break the rule I just decr...

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑
fafnir wrote: ↑ The pit is weak if my chat with Steersman is killing it. I had much longer pointless arguments on the JREF just before everybody left and it went into terminal decline.
You're 2-for-2.

I didn’t ask for this power.

The pit is weak if my chat with Steersman is killing it. The point is contrary to everything you so-eloquently argued against Steers. You sound like a progressive, punishing us with your ugly performance art... fafnir: "Pearls before swine!" Deputy Barney Fife: "Sir, this is a children's Easter Egg...

I built a training-crate for Steersman, back in 2016. My notion was that-- if Steersman refused to abide by minimal standards of civil discourse... that any Pitter could refuse to engage with him... anywhere _except_ in his little box. No need for a hard-coded shunning, then. https://slymepit.com/p...

What unmitigated and self-serving horse crap - so vague as to be useless. Not to mention that it didn't at all address my point that championing a "faith in progress", at least in curing medieval diseases, is hardly prima facie evidence of promoting the risible view that transwomen are actually wom...

I just feel sorry for Phil, who tried so hard all those years to kill the Pit. Instead, it was fafnir and steerz. A pity. Midterms are coming. The madness will start building for 2024, and no pit. The pit is weak if my chat with Steersman is killing it. I had much longer pointless arguments on the ...

I don't think the above criticism is remotely unique in applying to you Steersman. I think when one is trying to argue for a moral system based on principles and rationality rather than real world outcomes, it is almost impossible to maintain internal consistency. The equivocative nature of language...

<snip> OK, so the academic consensus in the social sciences seems to be that men who want to be women are women and are stunning and brave. Progress, let's go with that. Don't stand in the way of progress! Do you want people to die from medieval diseases? So where - exactly - have I been arguing th...

God damned lack of edit button. Can we have the edit button for one day before the pit folds?

Also, I'm just about to convince Steersman that he's wrong. The timing of this announcement is terrible.

Big of you to concede that any given prostitute might well be able to perform the duties of a teacher. It's not a concession. I've been saying it since this topic began. You just have an idea of the position of what people who disagree with you is, a search and replace binary opposite of your posit...

<snip> But you might try thinking - a challenge, I'm sure - that we simply can not know all of the consequences of any course of action, that we have make various educated guesses, that doing nothing is very often a "cure" much worse than the disease. OK, so the academic consensus in the social sci...

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But rather sad that sexworkers get a far worse press than they really deserve, that theirs is seen as a less than "honourable profession": Explain what you mean by "honourable" if you think it is wrong to say that being a prostitute is less than honourable? It's a common phrase - some lawyers even ...

How, exactly - as I've asked several times - will having been a prostitute necessarily preclude the ability to perform the duties of a teacher? All you've got is special pleading, citing tradition as some bogus "exception to a general or universal principle, without justifying the special exception...

<snip> You have this mile-wide brush of a bogeyman of the "Progressive Liberal" and his "cult of the the individual" that you try to tar everyone I don't tar everyone. Just Progressive Liberals. Which seems to include everyone to the left of Attila the Hun ... Certainly not. We are living in an age...

Honestly, Steesman... to normalise prostitution I think you are going to need to widen the scope of your project to rationalise the definition of female. You need to refound the nature of sexual relationships on a firm rationalist liberal foundation (maybe based on contract law and blockchain). The ...

But rather sad that sexworkers get a far worse press than they really deserve, that theirs is seen as a less than "honourable profession": Explain what you mean by "honourable" if you think it is wrong to say that being a prostitute is less than honourable? There is no hope for such as I on earth, ...

What horse crap. You seem to "think" that me calling for accurate definitions and not stereotyping people is tantamount to, the precursor to my inevitable master plan of closing of all the churches - replacing them all with strip-malls, to the repudiation of every tradition, to the strangling of ev...

<snip> Like I said before. Your view isn't really a rational view at all. You just have a bunch of liberal assumptions about how the world should work and want to implement them. Revolutions tend to be akin to pyrrhic victories. But for those on the bottom of the heap that tends to be somewhat acad...

Car trouble can be very frustrating:

Man breaks neck and dies trying to jump turnstile in NYC subway: https://nypost.com/2022/01/03/nyc-man-jumps-subway-turnstile-fatally-breaking-neck-video/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter Prediction: calls for 'racist' turnstiles to be removed in all NYC subway st...

Everything comes at a human cost. Have Enlightenment ideas come at no human cost? The real world is a complicated beast with feedback loops and unanticipated perverse incentives. One could have an idea of a better world based on liberty, equality, brotherhood and rationalism and find that it rapidl...

It was something of a rhetorical question to get you to admit – as you just did – that you really don’t have any reason at all why you would deny an ex-prostitute that opportunity. Nothing more than “feelinz”, than “tradition”, because the Bible tells you so, because you and the Church really don’t...

I rather think Stephen Fry is arguing against speech codes and the like that penalise people for stating their sincerely held beliefs, not in favour of Orwellian programmes to rationalise language. Stephen Fry had a bunch of cancer treatment not so long ago. Are we sure he is still male? So what? T...

Indeed. But how can one be considered truly accomplished if one can't tell one poop from another by flavour, scent, colour, texture and consistency. I see you've switched from reading Kant to de Sade. Well, he is an important Enlightenment figure as well. The intellectual tradition that you see in ...

What Coyne and all the other shitlibs always forget is, our nation was founded by those "willing to use violence against the government." The key element they miss: it's deemed both justified and necessary in response to a tyrannical government. Do they forget it, or is their actual position not wh...

If I ever get Kant figured out, I may try Hegel. Next time, before flushing, take some time to inspect, scrutinize, and play with your own poop. Then you'll have Kant, Hegel, et al., sussed just fine. Indeed. But how can one be considered truly accomplished if one can't tell one poop from another b...

I've been trying to read Kant try to derive morality from reason. All things considered, I think there is a lot more genuine insight about humans in the Bible. I warned you. May I suggest digging to some Leibniz instead? leibniz.jpg I knew it before I started. If I ever get Kant figured out, I may ...

That’s the kicker, that’s the crux of the problem: “the religious do, in the end, insist on speaking for God”. Even if they tie it up in “tradition”, pretty pink ribbons, and colourful Christmas wrapping paper. Someone has to speak for God. "God" is for practical purposes the name of the "ought" of...

A comparatively small post now as I've just read the blurb of the book Steersman recommended. Effectively the claim seems to be that the New Atheists view what they are doing as battling religion because it is irrational. What his book argues is that in fact that the world is mechanical, and materia...

Apologies to everybody for the eye watering girth of that response.

Life’s a bitch and all that. Apparently more so for some people than others. But of even more relevance is that, as I had argued on Feser’s blog, while he had some justification for aspects of his teleological argument, MacDonald had the higher moral ground in his criticisms of religion in general:...

– it’s an essential part of the whole process of reproduction which is often of paramount importance in many facets of society. I haven't argued this. Obviously this is the case. The overarching category of “sex” – “males” and “females” being subtypes in the category hierarchy is – by definition – ...

Why would I attempt to prove something I haven't claimed and don't believe? So then you agree that having been a prostitute “does not necessarily mean that they’re intrinsically incapable of performing the duties of a teacher”? Good to hear if that’s the case. But, pray tell, what other reason coul...

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑
John D wrote: ↑ My 30yo daughter also explained that she really wants me to get along with her trans-boyfriend better because they are going to get married and have a child.
They might need a refresher course on how to mak babby.

How is babby formed?

Predictions for the new year: 1) The Democrats will start telling the public that the "trump" mRNA vaccine was over-sold and the reason we still have Covid is Trump's vaccine. 2) Data will finally come out that children are being harmed more by the mRNA vaccine than helped by it. 3) The stock marke...

Are they well protected though? Young, fit athletes have had their health ruined by covid, and some children (not many so far) develop Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome in Children. No one knows what the long term effects in children will be. As I looked for some data just now, I found this study t...

I had never heard of this disease before & I'm certainly no doctor, so if twenty-six specialists say the vaccine wasn't the cause, my tendency is to believe them. Vaccines can also cause Guillain-Barré syndrome, which is also an autoimmune disease of the nerves, but influenza, not a vaccine, caused...

What I really wanted to say: Millions of children have now been vaccinated and are thus reasonably well protected. Even if this one case was caused by a vaccine, the good far outweighs the bad. Millions of children were very well protected before the vaccine. As Fauci has explained, the stats on ki...

Does that mean it isn't vaccine related? I mean, ultimately there is always a reason why any given bad reaction happens. Is the claim that her being hospitalised within 24hrs had nothing to do with being vaccinated? I know I don't know enough to be sure, but a quick Google of "MOGAD and vaccination"...

Look, your reasoning is based on a set of universalist, Kantian, enlightenment moral principles from which you decide what is good or bad, and to some degree really isn't dependent on the outcome. Your argument about prostitutes being teachers was an example of that. You aren't remotely interested ...

MarcusAu wrote: ↑ And Betty White has been...cancelled...

They should follow the same procedure as Joanna Southcott. Leave the body in a warm room until it starts to decay in case she is raised from the dead and is delivered of a heavenly child.

Service Dog wrote: ↑ Tweet of the video clip, which probably won't-even display for you to see here, due to Big Tech Censorship:

I get to the tweet, but when I click the link to the video it errors. "Something went wrong. Try reloading."

In 2022, elections will take place after an extended program to limit voting rights and intimidate electoral workers. It sounds like he is very much in the truth frame of one side of this rather than the other. That would be like a book about the Civil War referring to the talk of states rights, ta...

You make all sorts of rather untenable and categorical accusations against the Enlightenment – “the Enlightenment created a destructive revolutionary ideology”; “it is the enlightenment principles of individualism, equality and rationality that are the root cause of this [rot]”; “thinking you can b...

Service Dog wrote: ↑ Cenk Ugyur does an impersonation of Jimmy Dore,
by literally acting-out the "Greedy Jew" meme, live on camera:

Maybe he has resting greedy jew face?

The Covidians are fucked right now, cuz the fudge-making they employed to inflate cases and deaths, to sink Trump and/or impose tyranny, is biting them in the ass. And they are in a quandary with flu season upon us, cuz they've been counting flu deaths as covid deaths, so either they continue that ...

Sure. But which other domains are they applicable to? You’re saying that we “ought” not to at least consider applying them outside the narrow confines of the “hard sciences”? Tsk, tsk. Use it in areas where it demonstrates success. Don't use it in areas where it doesn't. In areas where it isn't pos...

Needless to say, that link is not suitable for work, the young, or your servants.

If we are talkin Carrier, and sharing comics.... I offer this for consideration:
https://www.oglaf.com/cumsprite/

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