If thou gazest long into the Pit, the Pit will also gaze into thee

Well, I don't think I've logged in here for over a year, but after the entertainment yesterday on twitter, I have to say -

Parsehole, you are a fucking genius. Nicely done, sir.

And Phil, who do you think you are, Dave Grohl or something? Get well soon, bud!

Sadly another lurker and Matt "hard-of-thinking" Cavanaugh are trying to drag the overpop debate back to the main thread. So returning it to its proper place: Don't talk about overpopulation and pollution. It makes you a 'racist'. Yes, really:P http://slymepit.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=359 Curi...

And on the other side of the coin, David Attenborough has been busy in the last week: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24144593 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/10316271/Sir-David-Attenborough-If-we-do-not-control-population-the-natural-world-will.html http://www.theguardian...

Interesting op-ed in the New York Times from one of those biologist/ecology types: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/14/opinion/overpopulation-is-not-the-problem.html?_r=0 And follow up on dotearth by Andy Revkin: http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/16/an-ecologist-explains-contested-view-of-plan...

Thanks for the breakdown. I listened to a panel on this topic at a sf con recently. The following suggestion was made to get affordable inter-stellar messaging, dunno if at all feasible in practice, but anyway: If in the future a lot of electricity is produced using parabolic solar panels, these co...

PZ has targeted SETI now. Of course rather than respectfully disagreeing he calls it a boondoggle. While I suspect the probability of intelligent life on a nearby star system is quite low, I have no problem if people want to look for it. What was more interesting to me was the PeeZus felt the need ...

Spence wrote:As well as the clanger on Avogadro's constant, that prefix "micro-", I do not think it means what Esteleth thinks it means...

Hmm, must read all to the end of the comment that I'm snipping next time. Sorry Apples *facepalm*

I can haz scientifically literate examples of how science needs postmodernism, plz? From the deepity, deepity, derp, or there must be more to billions and "billions" department -- the convo about pomo, age of the earth, conceptualizing big numbers discussion was picked up at Thunderdome: <snipped f...

spence you are doing fine. Allow me to invite you to my electronic pad anytime. Matt, meanwhile, fails to understand that if you have a view of economics so divorced from morals and reality that both Marx and Rand would smack you, it is time to reexamine your life. Cannot believe the abject stupidi...

And regarding nuclear power, one of the biggest problems, is uh, public support. There will always be the threat of some sort of meltdown. Fears about human error. People will always say 'not in my backyard'. Heck, people hundreds of miles away will worry about being 'downwinders' or something. Tha...

Ahahahahaha - sorry that's not clear enough - BWAHAHAHAHAHA Matt, you are an absolute riot. I back my viewpoint up with evidence from scientific articles, from scientists and engineers from places like the University of California Berkeley and learned institutions such as the UK Royal Academy of Eng...

ROFLMAO whoever wrote that article is completely clueless! Yes, risk and damage probabilities are continuous functions and if you understand how statistics works that means you can come up with any arbitrary damages you care to invent. Without an associated probability those are completely meaningle...

And at the moment I can't get this picture out of my mind: Richard Dawkins laughing about how he has Rebecca Watson's hate mail as his ring tone.

Didn't Dawkins already appear on the same stage as Watson, in some panel or something? And IIRC, didn't Watson do what she always does, turn it into all about her, misogyny and hatemail (completely ignoring the subject she was there to talk about), and in doing so made Dawkins visibly annoyed? You ...

tina wrote:I dont want a world where we can't insult the fuck out of someone for fear of defamation.

You're always safe from defamation if you stick with vulgar abuse :dance:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/09/05/time-to-make-a-promise/ PZ Myers 5 September 2013 at 6:38 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment There is no qualitative difference between PZ Myers stating that he wonâ€™t attend when Abbie Smith is also invited, and Richard Dawkins stating that he doesn...

And I have to reference windy here, cos windy is pretty awesome, and did actually point out another clanger (another one which Mike Adams would be proud of... seeing a pattern here?): http://slymepit.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=123387#p123387. This does show that there was at least one call out, when...

Isn't the problem with solar/wind the fact that the cost of carbon is 'baked' into the cost of them. Yes. As noted, wind farms require staggering amounts of raw material inputs in terms of steel and concrete. These things require energy as input. But making that energy input more expensive by using...

Objective costs of power generation: http://www.raeng.org.uk/news/publications/list/reports/cost_of_generating_electricity.pdf Wind is around 1.5x to 2x nuclear; 2x+ fossil fuels, even without backup. With backup it is (obviously) worse. It's an old report so prices may be a little higher now, but r...

And I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn. You've been pulling the 'guilt by association' card all along and it is painfully obvious. The "guilt by association" card is strictly in your imagination. You blab about how you're a rational skeptic, then you blab a bit about how Matt and I are not I don'...

AnonymousCowherd wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:If I had a penny everytime the Pit received a comment like this I'd have 53p
No you wouldn't, you'd have spent it on cheap liquor.

Nah. 96p short of teh Ace.

sarcasm wrote:Oh noes... we ... we can't do things! Because things have costs! We must stop doing things immediately! Costs.... like running out of sand for concrete! So we must build windmills.. out of concrete! You really are the king of strawmen, aren't you? Well, let's just find out shall we? F...

Matt, I'm not debating you, for the reason I don't wrestle with pigs: both end up covered in shit, and the pig just enjoys it. Mind you, the pig probably has a better grasp of physics than you do. As ThePrussian notes, your response to me is by and large a pack of lies, with one exception. You asked...

BWAHAHAHA Oh noes... we ... we can't do things ! Because things have costs ! We must stop doing things immediately! Costs.... like running out of sand for concrete! So we must build windmills.. out of concrete! BWAHAHAHA Oh I'm sorry, I interrupted. Please, do go on. Your deep economic insights are ...

You re-state the obvious. Food production is rising to meet the demands of a rising population. Why am I not surprised you cannot read a simple graph? *Meeting* the demands would be a flat line on that graph, because it is normalised against population. We are *exceeding* the demands of a growing p...

It is not the sand that matters. It is the cement. Sure. Only a scientific illiterate would worry about the sand. That's kind of the point. Cement is manufactured with a carbon based fuel, be it coal, petroleum, natural gas or wood. Only one of those is renewable. Nothing forcing cement to be made ...

ROFLMAO. It seems some people don't like their ignorance exposed. The backpedalling was entertaining, but nothing beyond that. As I said, there's no real debate to be had on these issues. Aside from a few political or PR vanity projects, population and technology will continue to grow. Prediction is...

About 12 hours before this thread was put up I had a population debate thread all ready to go - but I didn't bother submitting. I wasn't convinced people would follow at that point, particularly as I'd not really been too active in the debate. But I'm glad you posted this one up windy - I think peop...

This is a horrible cartoon, expressing a horrible sentiment, because it uses the word "hoax" and not the word "mistake". You have a point there, but my sentiment was rather that many of the supposed remedies are good steps to take regardless of whether there's an imminent threat or not, not that it...

Finally, here's an article, "Growing demand for family planning in Malawi". It points out that Malawian women have an average of 5.8 children, only slightly down from 40 years ago, maternal mortality is high, and many women face opposition from their husbands. Despite these challenges, Malawi has m...

Svan has a new article about (surprise, surprise) rape, that seems to me to be highly irresponsible. http://www.freezepage.com/1377262794PINWHBPBFS It is an account (taken from a comment on Lousy Canucks site) by a woman who had undergone a rather horrific stranger rape and who was then disbelieved...

Just enter "slymepit" in the Twitter search engine, she'll have 2-3 posts under "Robot Gamer Girl Anna" or some shit. I'd never bothered searching for slymepit on twitter. Interesting that col0n turns up quite frequently in that list, and looking on some of bluharmony's comments I then saw this: ht...

There isn't an overpopulation problem and there never was. Birth rates go down as wealth goes up, to the point that what we in Europe have is a serious lack of a replacement population. The problem is, again, poverty. And, sadly the Hitch is wrong - women's emancipation is one of the first results ...

Ugh, don't even get me started on the neomalthusian nutbags. They're all the same, it's all "peace and love" and "I only want the best for all people, everywhere" and "the greater good", then they reveal their base motivation is total misanthropy. I have no idea how the reconcile their moralistic p...

This guy spells out the type of thinking circulating the remains of PZ Myers' brain.

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:o :lol:

Ä uest wrote:I don't think that's a poe

Remember - Poe's law does not specify that a post or comment be a parody, but merely that it would be impossible to parody without someone mistaking it for the real thing.

Make of this what you will: https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/368746844983001088 I am not a lawyer, I have no idea what he is saying. He could just be trying to protect the lawyers' union. Around the same time, Popehat made reference to someone who thought actual malice did not apply to libel per ...

And all Ive done so far today write/format about 50 pages of my dissertation, in addition to doing experiments in the lab. I am such a failure. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: Clearly, you don't care about black people. Wait-- I thought I was a Chill Girl who only did HIV research to get huge, black ...

He is right in one sense though, that PZ's actions are only "alleged libel", no Court has judged it to be so. But what that has to do with being a "real skeptic" s anyone's guess - unless it means taking note of all kinds of legal finesse in everyday conversation. I guess, in a legal sense, that it...

Just gonna drop these here. https://twitter.com/FakeRobotGamer/status/369331138239528960 https://twitter.com/sarahlicity/status/369332439945969664 I'm sure thunderf00t will just laugh these off, but if they were pointed at Becky it would be unequivocal evidence of misogyny in the atheist movement an...

Apparently Popehat wants to get a seat at the SJW lunch table. (Apologies if this was already posted.) https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/368534679676129280 (Sorry, don't know how to insert graphic.) AAAAHAHAHAHA *breathe* AAAAHHAHAHAAHA *breathe* HAAHAHAHAHAHA OK I'm done. Nice to know popehat is ...

Wow busy days for the slymepit. Glad Shermer is standing up to defend himself. I could understand a decision not to, but Myers really needs to be stopped. I'm guessing this is unlikely to reach court, but discovery would be interesting, wouldn't it? Discovery cuts both ways of course - the court cou...

That post by Jason Tweedledum sums everything up. For anyone with a shred of intelligence, it would dawn on them the dangers of leaping in feet first every time you hear one side of a story. The bit about trust is just hilarious though. If you were writing a parody, you'd leave that bit out - too ob...

HOLY SHIIIIIIIIIIT PZ dun goofed even harder, he's added more stories to his OP xD http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/08/08/what-do-you-do-when-someone-pulls-the-pin-and-hands-you-a-grenade/ Freezepage: http://www.freezepage.com/1376173204KSTUUVOVQF I can't say no to a drink therefore rape...

This is your brain on white knighting. http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd241/gumbythecat/Slymepit/anri_zps53e8d648.jpg Oy vey. Perhaps Anri might like to read this BBC news article from yesterday: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-23629148 "False rape claim woman Cathy Richardson jailed...

RazielWasAlone wrote:That's nothing a ~~treadmill~~ frontal lobotomy couldn't fix. :animals-dogrun:

FTFY

Does anyone know anything about Ken White from popehat offering to do lawyering for Jen pro bono?

I checked out his site and there just seems to be loads of stuff about freeze peach. I thought Jen and her friends didn't like frozen peaches? It seems they can learn to love iced fruit, after all.

Somewhat staggered at reading through all of the FtB nonsense today. I thought FtBers had jumped the shark before, but today's events rate as world record breaking double-decker shark jumping blindfold. On the fucking moon . Thanks to all for documenting it. I will be scraping my jaw up from the gro...

Yeah, that would definitely help, but I'd also have a statement about how these are what someone else wrote and in no way represents the views of anyone here at the pit. Not sure if reposting it makes Lsuoma liable over something like this - maybe he can ask and let us know. It's good to capture th...

Badger3k is right here - repeating a libel is itself libellous and you can still be sued for it. I recommend backing up a copy to your HDD but be very cautious about putting it up on the web without removing anything defamatory - even if you are listing as "person X said...". I am not disputing you...

Tony Parsehole wrote:
welch wrote:ZVAINZILLA!!!!
it's funny coz Zvan's a fat cunt and everybody hates her.

"It's funny because it's true"

I didn't realise how long your laugh was until I replied to you.

Yeah, that would definitely help, but I'd also have a statement about how these are what someone else wrote and in no way represents the views of anyone here at the pit. Not sure if reposting it makes Lsuoma liable over something like this - maybe he can ask and let us know. It's good to capture th...

Personally, I am more a fan of taking it down (or modifying it so that is actually not a twitter attack machine) the ethical way. Such as through Twitter complaint channels or a courtroom. Given how reluctant twitter are to address real violent threats, it is unlikely they will do anything to the h...

So just out of curiosity I went to see if the Block Bot was still running since oolon is claiming Anonymous is trying to take it down, and I was surprised to see that the bot, which even after the BBC broadcast promoting had less than 200 followers, was now over 1200 followers. Curious. As we know,...

I know it's not really my place to say-because I really haven't been effected by him-but i do wish you guys would just ignore Oolon. Although oolon is an attention whore and there is some logic in ignoring him - up until recently I think everyone was - he is using his bot to harass a number of peop...

I don't want to cause oolon any financial or personal trouble. I just want to be either out or anonymed off that list. The guy is an ass, but he doesn't deserve jail time or monetary fines. A simple recognition that a lot of people on his bot do not deserve to be tagged as his bot claims would be q...

In retrospective, I think I coined "Rebitcha" or something very similar. Not "Rebeccunt". No, it was you - search for Rebeccunt (comment 1463, link below), it seemed to be generally agreed in the periodic table of swearing this was the first use. Watson's use of it was in September, the following m...

I think I did coin "Rebeccunt". It was something to do with the use of people's last names, so I just jokingly offered to change her first name. a bit like the "Dear Dick" thing. Well, thanks to SN we have the ERV archives to decide on that. I will not do it right now as I have a meeting with my fo...

Ouch, oolon's reply to me on the block bot site (well, I can only guess it's oolon): HAHA, Cheers Phil, this gave me the best laugh of the day. From the fucking idiot who proudly admitted to coining part of the phrase â€œRebeccunt Twatsonâ€ in response to the avalanche of abuse she endured. You ar...

Spence wrote:Ahahahaha Colon retweeted this:
The man who writes a program to track slymepitters accuses us of being obsessed, and doesn't see any irony at all. Surely nobody could be so delusional? Oh, wait.

Grr. Use preview this time

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