The Refuge of the Toads

#42901

Wow. Carrier has burnt his bridges and then some. He has abused every academic could-be peer. He has jumped down the A Plus rabbit hole destroying his AS creds. He creeped out the SJettes and the Benson Myers old guard. He has now threatened FTB et al with bastard lawyers he can't afford. He has shamed a student and told bed stories about Skepticon's leader. Now he is threatening a harassed student with a law suit.

Has there ever been a more broken dolly in public view than this?

Has he tallied up his prof. and reputational assets and debts? Done a SWOT analysis. He is elyse without the vomit and shit.

#42902

some guy wrote:go the Shermer route and walk away

IMHO that's the only winning strategy. But there's a difference. Shermer have an audience that does not recruit from the echo chamber, he can afford to focus on his writing and speaking without much loss.

Dick, on the other hand, has no audience to speak of and he'd have to ditch the entire club, redouble his efforts and do some proper science and work. I have doubts if he's capable of doing that.

#42903

sp0tlight wrote:
some guy wrote:go the Shermer route and walk away
IMHO that's the only winning strategy. But there's a difference. Shermer have an audience that does not recruit from the echo chamber, he can afford to focus on his writing and speaking without much loss.

Dick, on the other hand, has no audience to speak of and he'd have to ditch the entire club, redouble his efforts and do some proper science and work. I have doubts if he's capable of doing that.

At least we've just learned that Carrier won't have to worry about having any children to get in the way of his work. :chores-chopwood:

#42904

Brive1987 wrote:Carrier ... He is elyse without the vomit and shit.

Quite true. (But he does have that semen thing; gotta grant him that.)

#42905

Gumby wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: Budget was 144 million, according to Wikipedia.

And yes, I will give it a try, just to be sure it's not just the controversy making it shit.
That was the budget for making the film, not counting the 100 million or so they spent marketing it. Barring a minor miracle the film is going to lose quite a bit of money.

I read somewhere that, as a rule of thumb, a Hollywood movie has to gross about twice it's stated budget to make a profit due to the additional cost of marketing, making the prints, the cut the cinemas take etc.

Ghostbusters 2016 is going to result in a huge loss for Sony.

#42906

Service Dog wrote: They're midgets. They have a wrestling coach. What part of money dont they understand?

Heck, they're trying to save the rainforest. What part of Disney Money dont they understand?

Cool Runnings except with midgets and about wrestling?

https://genophoria.files.wordpress.com/ ... -money.jpg

#42907

Not sure if it's doxing, but the Ashley Miller public Facebook post that was linked a few pages ago is heating up nicely. The usual suspects are trashing Carrier and Damion made an appearance, only to be called a sealion and to have his statements dismissed with a frustrated sigh.

#42908

HunnyBunny wrote: Apparently Dick Carrier is going after Amy Frank, the former President of Arizona SSA.

:popcorn:

Huh didn't see any pit names on there.

#42909

jimmyfromchicago wrote: [...] He may have bitten off more than he can chew, as Amy looks like she's ready to fight. The $3,000 amount of the GoFundMe is about what a lawyer would ask as a retainer for something like this.

[youtube]znn7UvT-9Jw[/youtube]

#42910

Apols if ninja'd
This is a real tweet from Trump, not a spoof/parody. Donald the Tank Engine.

#42911

InfraRedBucket wrote:Apols if ninja'd
This is a real tweet from Trump, not a spoof/parody. Donald the Tank Engine.

Cho-cho-motherfuckers.

Twatter sure make election cycle more stupid.

#42912

comhcinc wrote:
HunnyBunny wrote: Apparently Dick Carrier is going after Amy Frank, the former President of Arizona SSA.

Huh didn't see any pit names on there.

Were you expecting some?

BTW, here would be the perfect place for Watson to pass along the excess donations she got when Radford sent her a C+D. (Like she promised she would, unless it went to charity. Because you know how SJWs are when they promise to distribute money. {cough} Becky/Karen/Heina {cough})

#42913

comhcinc wrote:
HunnyBunny wrote: Apparently Dick Carrier is going after Amy Frank, the former President of Arizona SSA.

[emoji14]opcorn:

Huh didn't see any pit names on there.

I donating once I get home, but keeping it anonymous. I'd encourage everyone to do likewise if they have a few bucks to spare. Do it for spite, do it because you really think Carrier did something wrong, do it for the lulz. Money is money. Also keep in mind that more eyes means more funds (means more lulz, more sticking it to Carrier). Spread it through your social circles. The "sexual harasser sics lawyer on his victim" angle sells itself.

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#42914

Service Dog wrote:
sp0tlight wrote:
windy wrote: http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpspro ... 559092.jpg
Saw that one, hawth. :twisted:
http://i65.tinypic.com/n20h0m.png

It's almost like the writer doesn't want to see that Wonder Woman has panties (or whatever, shorts?) on, and just keep imagining her going commando. But, surely an SJW loon wouldn't do that? :think:

#42915

Fuckimg elections., Everyone crows how his is the most meaningful evar

#42916

http://imgur.com/NCcre6Y.jpg

#42917

I donating once I get home, but keeping it anonymous. I'd encourage everyone to do likewise ...

No thanks. Would prefer the SJW to blow their own money (which they will; here's another opportunity for them to virtue signal). Particularly since ultimately this is reinforcing their "epistemology".

Besides, Carrier is just bluffing: he knows it, they know it, we all know it. He can't afford to sue the lot of them. Throwing money at either side in this at this point is just throwing it away.

#42918

feathers wrote:
Easy J wrote:My ex used my aversion to large social events as one of her justifications for leaving me. Whatever. I know there's an ideal hermit woman out there waiting for me. Maybe ill bump into her as we're buying groceries at 3am to avoid the crowd.
But more likely, you'll bump into a homeless woman without teeth at that time of the night. Or a tired hooker coming home from work.

I had a weird encounter with a chic in the grocery store around 1 am a couple of months back. She wanted my number the the "crazy going to say you raped me/got me pregnant" vibe was too strong.

#42919

Tribble wrote:
sp0tlight wrote:So, Ghostbusters (2016) brought ~130 mil on ~240 mil (production & marketing) budget. Turns out being a cunt to fanbase and pandering don't sell tickets.

So, like the music business, video gaming industry, etc. there are a lot of hands in the revenue stream. So by the time revenue stream gets to the studio, they can easily be down to 25%. So when we say $130 million, Sony is not likely to be getting more than half and they could be getting less.

So, this movie is going to be a financial disaster. They're likely to lose around $100 million. Maybe a bit more. Maybe a bit less.

The studios make the most money opening weekend. Every week the balance between studio and theater shift. So if you really like a movie and you give a fuck it's best to see it opening weekend and closing weekend. That way everyone gets some cheddar.

I bet the movie will make a very small profit due to all the tie ins.

I mean even I got the kids some ghostbuster themed twinkles.

#42920

InfraRedBucket wrote:Apols if ninja'd
This is a real tweet from Trump, not a spoof/parody. Donald the Tank Engine.

Where have I seen that facial expression before?

Oh, yeah...

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j252/ ... d650af.jpg

#42921

comhcinc wrote:I bet the movie will make a very small profit due to all the tie ins.

Even if so, Deadpool or SW: FA it ain't.

#42922

Women activists, well, actually being activists, and making a difference for their gender with regards to an issue that was important to them.

Yielding to a high voltage campaign by activists, the Shani Shingnapur temple trust on Friday allowed women to enter the sanctum sanctorum, breaking the tradition followed for several decades.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/o ... 451406.ece

Not exactly earth-shattering or exciting stuff, but it seems to be an example of feminist activism done right. They more than likely didn't whine about "microaggressions" and "oppression" like the do-nothing crybaby regressives we are so used to - they did what it took to get an inequity repaired. That's way too much work for the slacker posers at Skepchick and FtB. Why do actual activism when you can write a clickbaity blog post, ya know? Real activism doesn't help the Patreon account. The list of ways the usual suspects have actually helped women could fill thimbles.

#42923

Off topic, but funny:

#42924

some guy wrote:
I donating once I get home, but keeping it anonymous. I'd encourage everyone to do likewise ...
No thanks. Would prefer the SJW to blow their own money (which they will; here's another opportunity for them to virtue signal). Particularly since ultimately this is reinforcing their "epistemology".

Besides, Carrier is just bluffing: he knows it, they know it, we all know it. He can't afford to sue the lot of them. Throwing money at either side in this at this point is just throwing it away.

I think I might throw a dollar or so in.

Little enough to not matter but just add another name on the list cause you know dick is watching it and it will ignore the fuck out of him.

#42925

InfraRedBucket wrote:Apols if ninja'd
This is a real tweet from Trump, not a spoof/parody. Donald the Tank Engine.

:fpig:

Why should I try to act like a mature adult when aspirants for the highest office in my country present themselves like this?

#42926

sp0tlight wrote:
comhcinc wrote:I bet the movie will make a very small profit due to all the tie ins.
Even if so, Deadpool or SW: FA it ain't.

Oh god no. Deadpool will probably be the biggest hit this year if you are just considering straight profit from ticket and home release sales. Star Wars is just like printing movie.

No like I said at the end of the day I think Ghostbusters will make what was spend on it and maybe a little more. Movie studios don't mind a couple of those movies a year but GB was suppose to be Sony's big blockbuster movie and that is just unacceptable. I will be completely shocked if they make any sequels.

#42927

Really? wrote:Not sure if it's doxing, but the Ashley Miller public Facebook post that was linked a few pages ago is heating up nicely. The usual suspects are trashing Carrier and Damion made an appearance, only to be called a sealion and to have his statements dismissed with a frustrated sigh.

Is a linky possible?

#42928

Suet Cardigan wrote:Off topic, but funny:

Just to point out the obvious, Hitler was never chancellor.

#42929

http://img.pr0gramm.com/2016/07/31/7326535ffb67653e.png

I bet they will victim blame.

#42930

Fuck, no wait, he was. Shit.

#42931

One day carrier will wake up. And it will be appropriate to take his tie and laces into protective custody.

........

How you suffered for your sanity
How you tried to set them free.
Perhaps they'll listen now.

For they could not love you
But still your love was true

And when no hope was left in sight on that starry
Starry night.
You took your life
As lovers often do;
But I could have told you
Vincent
This world was never
Meant for one
As beautiful as you.

#42932

Jimmy Olsen?

.......

In 2002, three employees of the Columbus zoo were condemned, after it was revealed that the zookeepers allowed people into the zoo after business hours for the purpose of copulating with the animals.

#42933

Brive1987 wrote:Jimmy Olsen?

.......

In 2002, three employees of the Columbus zoo were condemned, after it was revealed that the zookeepers allowed people into the zoo after business hours for the purpose of copulating with the animals.

[youtube]EgIIRO-VqUY[/youtube]

#42934

some guy wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:Carrier ... He is elyse without the vomit and shit.
Quite true. (But he does have that semen thing; gotta grant him that.)

Yep. You got to admit, the kid has spunk.

#42935

some guy wrote:I'm very curious why Carrier thinks his stragegy will work for him, when he certainly observed how well it worked for Radford and Shermer. Everything is so predictable right now: the people he threaten go ebegging to fund their defense, and ain't nobody but himself to fund his prosecution. Defendants tell him to go suck eggs, and he then has a choice: go the Shermer route and walk away, or prepare to dump a whole boat load of money he doesn't have to reach, at best, a stalemate sometime in the future.

1. Because he has few choices.
2. He saw early success from making legal threats. They all shut the hell up.

But now, as I presume the legal threat has become more significant since July 10th, they feel backed into a corner and are out asking for money.

#42936

deLurch wrote:
some guy wrote:I'm very curious why Carrier thinks his stragegy will work for him, when he certainly observed how well it worked for Radford and Shermer. Everything is so predictable right now: the people he threaten go ebegging to fund their defense, and ain't nobody but himself to fund his prosecution. Defendants tell him to go suck eggs, and he then has a choice: go the Shermer route and walk away, or prepare to dump a whole boat load of money he doesn't have to reach, at best, a stalemate sometime in the future.
1. Because he has few choices.
2. He saw early success from making legal threats. They all shut the hell up.

But now, as I presume the legal threat has become more significant since July 10th, they feel backed into a corner and are out asking for money.

And Dick has dirt on everyone involved. If Heina steps out of line, he can release whatever he has on her. He already accused Lauren Lane of rape and made her out to be a homewrecker.

#42937

RebeccaB wrote:
some guy wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:Carrier ... He is elyse without the vomit and shit.
Quite true. (But he does have that semen thing; gotta grant him that.)
Yep. You got to admit, the kid has spunk.

Obligatory:
[youtube]etyO7T6WGwU[/youtube]

#42938

Really? wrote: Lauren Lane of rape and made her out to be a homewrecker.

Superman's girlfriend's cousin may be a rapist but she isn't a homewrecker. She wasn't married and make a lifelong vow not to fuck around. Dude's an asshole just for even attempting to pass the blame from himself.

#42939

Oh, and it looks like Zvan got a C&D too.

No word about it on her shit blog.

#42940

JayTeeAitch wrote:Who needs a drum machine when you've got a few dog bowls, a symbol, some buckets and bongos:

I'd venture a guess that Brian Slawson might register somewhere on the spectrum:

[youtube]W79ea-p_uFk[/youtube]

I actually saw him play in front of Lincoln Center back when he was a street musician, and refused to perform anything that wasn't written by Bach or Vivaldi. Unforgettable.

Personally, I'm 10 out of 50.

#42941

comhcinc wrote:
Really? wrote: Lauren Lane of rape and made her out to be a homewrecker.
Superman's girlfriend's cousin may be a rapist but she isn't a homewrecker. She wasn't married and make a lifelong vow not to fuck around. Dude's an asshole just for even attempting to pass the blame from himself.

I agree that Carrier is an asshole and shoulders most of the blame, but, as Dick made clear, Lane knew that Dick was married and engaged in a long-term, disgusting sexual affair with him.

Here's some video from the next Skepticon:

[youtube]icWzEVOiX1k[/youtube]

[youtube]pXG1aJmeELA[/youtube]

#42942

Thanks for the link Really, but as I am some how permanently locked out of facebook, (don't know how it happened), I guess I'll have to live without the juicy details. :roll: :cry:

#42943

comhcinc wrote:
Really? wrote: Lauren Lane of rape and made her out to be a homewrecker.
Superman's girlfriend's cousin may be a rapist but she isn't a homewrecker. She wasn't married and make a lifelong vow not to fuck around. Dude's an asshole just for even attempting to pass the blame from himself.

Didn't you read Dick's side of it? She pretty much raped him. :hand:

#42944

How long before the SJW beast turns on this smug, censorial, strawmanning, assclown?

[youtube]P1L2eztXOU8[/youtube]

Whenever it is is can't be too soon.

#42945

Biohazard wrote:Whenever it is is can't be too soon.

"Whenever it is, IT can't be too soon."

[damn edit button...]

#42946

Really? wrote:
comhcinc wrote:
Really? wrote: Lauren Lane of rape and made her out to be a homewrecker.
Superman's girlfriend's cousin may be a rapist but she isn't a homewrecker. She wasn't married and make a lifelong vow not to fuck around. Dude's an asshole just for even attempting to pass the blame from himself.
I agree that Carrier is an asshole and shoulders most of the blame, but, as Dick made clear, Lane knew that Dick was married and engaged in a long-term, disgusting sexual affair with him.

I would totally be gay for pay, but I am sure I have priced myself out of the market.

Anyway I see what you are saying but I don't agree with it. Lana Lang's chief rival's relative, much like Hitler, did nothing wrong. I feel that way for everyone too. You want to sleep with married people sure go for it. It's on them to honor their commitment and say no.

#42947

Biohazard wrote: [damn edit button...]

Don't worry, you were :nin: ed pages and pages ago. :dance:

#42948

Zvan's response is Delphic and weird:

Stephanie Zvan wrote: Stephanie Zvan – ‏@szvan

I also received a C&D. It's transparently baseless, but no one should have to be as bored with legal threats as I am to talk harassment.
9:04 AM - 31 Jul 2016

She's bored with legal threats so she either is or isn't going to talk about harassment. Which one is it? Is she talking about sexual harassment, or is she saying Carrier's lawsuit would be a SLAPP?

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#42949

feathers wrote:
Really? wrote:That's another interesting facet. It seems like everyone in the community except for PZ and Ophelia have had sex with each other.
What makes you so sure Paul and Ophie haven't been into the hanky-panky together?

Ophelia doesn't have tentacles.

#42950

comhcinc wrote:
Suet Cardigan wrote:Off topic, but funny:

Just to point out the obvious, Hitler was never chancellor.

Wait, what?!?

Adolf Hitler (German: [ˈadɔlf ˈhɪtlɐ] ( listen); 20 April 1889 – 30 April 1945) was a German politician who was the leader of the Nazi Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei; NSDAP), Chancellor of Germany from 1933 to 1945, and Führer ("leader") of Nazi Germany from 1934 to 1945. As dictator of Nazi Germany, he initiated World War II in Europe with the invasion of Poland in September 1939 and was a central figure of the Holocaust.

#42951

comhcinc wrote:Fuck, no wait, he was. Shit.

Ok, my bad. Should have kept reading. I was distracted by the alligator stuff...

#42952

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
comhcinc wrote:Fuck, no wait, he was. Shit.
Ok, my bad. Should have kept reading. I was distracted by the alligator stuff...

Yeah I was thinking president for some reason.

Maybe it was the Clinton campaign that was playing while I was typing that :twatson:

#42953

comhcinc wrote: Yeah I was thinking president for some reason.

Maybe it was the Clinton campaign that was playing while I was typing that :twatson:

In many European countries Prime Minister > President.

#42954

sp0tlight wrote:
comhcinc wrote: Yeah I was thinking president for some reason.

Maybe it was the Clinton campaign that was playing while I was typing that :twatson:
In many European countries Prime Minister > President.

Not in Germany during that point. They had a chancellor (Hitler, he who did nothing wrong) and a president (Paul Von Hindenburg).

Why I thought of Hindenburg when exposed to Clinton is beyond me :twatson:

#42955

I am salivating at the prospect of Zvan getting dragged in to this latest SJW mess.

Just imagine if Carrier and Zvan ever got in on? Ugly, I know. Picture Carrier jizzing on......oh, never mind.

:o :o :o

#42956

comhcinc wrote:Why I thought of Hindenburg when exposed to Clinton is beyond me :twatson:

I have a hunch!

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... ,_1937.jpg

#42957

jimmyfromchicago wrote:Zvan's response is Delphic and weird:

Stephanie Zvan wrote: Stephanie Zvan – ‏@szvan

I also received a C&D. It's transparently baseless, but no one should have to be as bored with legal threats as I am to talk harassment.
9:04 AM - 31 Jul 2016
She's bored with legal threats so she either is or isn't going to talk about harassment. Which one is it? Is she talking about sexual harassment, or is she saying Carrier's lawsuit would be a SLAPP?

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More to consider:

Carrier addresses Zvan in his post:

Stephanie Zvan of The Orbit and PZ Myers of Freethought Blogs both claim they have spoken to “two other women” who have made claims against me. They released no details about those claims, just conclusory statements whose truth cannot be assessed. They conducted no professional investigation of any of those claims before publishing them, not even of the sort a competent journalist would perform. Such behavior is reckless, irresponsible, and unprofessional.

She's always grouped with PZ in that post. If Zvan got a C&D, did he also send one to PZ? What happened when Shermer sent PZ a C&D? I am happy to have lived long enough to see this day.

Oh, geez. I should have looked already. Looks like PZ also got a C&D, but he is using the word "sue" instead.

Remember the whole anticipation when Shermer's lawyer's deadline was coming up and PZ did nothing and Shermer did nothing and we were all disappointed? Maybe Dick won't disappointed. Nine more days.

#42958

sp0tlight wrote:
comhcinc wrote:Why I thought of Hindenburg when exposed to Clinton is beyond me :twatson:
I have a hunch!

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... ,_1937.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/U7Ghu2sh.jpg

#42959

And if you are still in a giving mood after giving to Amy Frank, please know that Heina has a new crowdfunding effort. She wants money for cats.

https://www.crowdrise.com/stray-cat-all ... nadadabhoy

#42960

Really? wrote:And if you are still in a giving mood after giving to Amy Frank, please know that Heina has a new crowdfunding effort. She wants money for cats.

https://www.crowdrise.com/stray-cat-all ... nadadabhoy

Why does it cost so much to drown stray cats?