The Refuge of the Toads

[Badger3k]

Okay. One of my periodic appeals for advice.

As I've mentioned before, I've had problems with disturbing my neighbours practising my guitar. (Their landlord actually approached me a while later - I think reading between the lines he was looking for an excuse to kick them out - and told me the council had been out and taken readings after their second complaint and found nothing to be concerned about.)

But those particular neighbours won't be a problem for much longer. I've had an offer accepted on another house. It's a bit bigger and in a nicer area, but it's still a terrace so I'll still need to be careful about keeping the noise down.

Anybody know anything about soundproofing? Everything I find online is either about keeping external noise out of a recording studio, or building the kind of facility an entire band could practice in, neither of which is what I'm after. just want a bit of noise dampening to spare the neighbours. Would a bookcase full of books along the party wall have any useful effect, or perhaps with a bit of acoustic foam behind it?

The only thing I know about soundproofing is to staple a bunch of old egg cartons to your wall.

Buck, buck, buggaaaaaa!

Yep, that's the cheapest and easiest solution. Acoustic foam is expensive.

The cardboard ones or the styrofoam? Does it actually work decent?

[--bill]

I need something to read. Any book recommendations?

Don Quixote. For my money, the best novel ever.

[Brive1987]

How's work going Com?

I was literally just thinking the same thing.

.........

You didn't ask but I'll share anyway.

I inherited a company where about 80 staff are working off a single RDS server loaded up with 90 Gig of RAM while accessing a custom CRM developed in 1999-2002 and which has had an overlay of additional functions applied to it rather than any redevelopment. RDS and web have port 80 directly open to the Internet.

I enjoyed telling the board that an inefficient operational spend of say $10 a month covering 2 bases equates to $10 of efficient spend hitting the 15 bases encompassing required capacity and risk mitigation. Oh and throw in a one off cost of $25 in services to build the new Rome.

Then we can start to talk CRM and website.

Ha ha ha. No cost savings in the short term for you.

[Brive1987]

I need something to read. Any book recommendations?

Don Quixote. For my money, the best novel ever.

Prospero Burns. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hor ... ls)#book15

[rayshul]

I need something to read. Any book recommendations?

Read a draft of my new novelly thing. ^_^

[rayshul]

My new job hasn't started yet. I love my current boss so hard. :( I'm going to miss him so much, he is such a wonderful person, so supportive, I love working with him. I am going to work for my mentor (the most visionary IT futurist mind I've ever encountered) for $50k more than he pays me though.

[Badger3k]

So saints, Mary, and dead babies are in heaven but no one else right?

Baptised dead babies, but yes, apart from that select group who reside / know heaven, everyone else who died waits in Purgatory until the day of judgement or until declared a saint.*

To the best of my knowledge.


* - I'm not quite sure as to whether the saint has to be found to be thus by us mortals before getting a pass out of Purgatory or whether god already knows this, has ushered them into heaven the moment they died and we're just playing catch-up on the approved list.

Never was taught that through 13-odd years of Roman Catholic school education. Probably the usual bunch of cafeteria christianity, though. Everybody has their own way of reading the bible and taking what they want. I also thought they got rid of Purgatory a while back. Too many unbaptized babies taking the real estate?

[Badger3k]

Never mind, saw that the catechism states that what I remember is technically true for them:

Each man receives his eternal retribution in his immortal soul at the very moment of his death, in a particular judgment that refers his life to Christ: either entrance into the blessedness of heaven-through a purification594 or immediately,595 -- or immediate and everlasting damnation.596

At the evening of life, we shall be judged on our love.597

[Brive1987]

My new job hasn't started yet. I love my current boss so hard. :( I'm going to miss him so much, he is such a wonderful person, so supportive, I love working with him. I am going to work for my mentor (the most visionary IT futurist mind I've ever encountered) for $50k more than he pays me though.

Professionally poly. I spotted it a while back.

[Hunt]

The cardboard ones or the styrofoam? Does it actually work decent?

More than likely it wouldn't matter. The theory is to scatter sound waves in a regular pattern and create a lot of cancelling interference. Or something. This is beyond the "outer limits" of my knowledge of acoustics. Does it work? Try it and find out. First step: find a lot of egg cartons. Recycle bin of a place serving breakfast?

[MarcusAu]

The eggman may have some

[youtube]aQ43Zws-Dso[/youtube]

[Shatterface]

I thought I would t need sound-proofing as I only have an air guitar.

Unfortunately my imaginary neighbours have started to object.

This is very hypocritical of them as they often practice their drumming in my head.

[rayshul]

My new job hasn't started yet. I love my current boss so hard. :( I'm going to miss him so much, he is such a wonderful person, so supportive, I love working with him. I am going to work for my mentor (the most visionary IT futurist mind I've ever encountered) for $50k more than he pays me though.

Professionally poly. I spotted it a while back.

I know I feel like such a slut. HEHEHE. I was down in HR today working on a process and we were talking about me leaving, and my boss was like "She loves me but she loves money more" and I'm like "It's fucken crazy money to nerd!!!"

[paddybrown]

The eggman may have some

[youtube]aQ43Zws-Dso[/youtube]

Goo goo ga joob

[deLurch]

Here is a magical website for assuaging white guilt.

http://www.reparations.me/

http://www.infowars.com/new-reparations ... eir-guilt/

[deLurch]

Science break.

For the First Time, Researchers See Structure That Allows Brain Cells to Communicate
Study Uses Cutting-Edge Technique to Image the Process of Neuronal Transmission
http://www.newswise.com/articles/for-th ... ommunicate
[youtube]PNhUqhwHDaQ[/youtube]

[Jack Wooster]

I need something to read. Any book recommendations?

I'm reading Hitch's memoir, Hitch 22, at the moment, that's pretty good,

[Shatterface]

I need something to read. Any book recommendations?

I'm reading Hitch's memoir, Hitch 22, at the moment, that's pretty good,

I haven't read the first 21. Do I have to start at the beginning like Game of Thrones?

[Shatterface]

Science break.

For the First Time, Researchers See Structure That Allows Brain Cells to Communicate
Study Uses Cutting-Edge Technique to Image the Process of Neuronal Transmission
http://www.newswise.com/articles/for-th ... ommunicate

http://s1.dmcdn.net/Ki1nE/1280x720-74H.png

[Dick Strawkins]

Okay. One of my periodic appeals for advice.

As I've mentioned before, I've had problems with disturbing my neighbours practising my guitar. (Their landlord actually approached me a while later - I think reading between the lines he was looking for an excuse to kick them out - and told me the council had been out and taken readings after their second complaint and found nothing to be concerned about.)

But those particular neighbours won't be a problem for much longer. I've had an offer accepted on another house. It's a bit bigger and in a nicer area, but it's still a terrace so I'll still need to be careful about keeping the noise down.

Anybody know anything about soundproofing? Everything I find online is either about keeping external noise out of a recording studio, or building the kind of facility an entire band could practice in, neither of which is what I'm after. just want a bit of noise dampening to spare the neighbours. Would a bookcase full of books along the party wall have any useful effect, or perhaps with a bit of acoustic foam behind it?

Not from what I found, but then I put semi-acoustic tiles (I think cork ceiling tiles, all I could afford) and built bookcases ties into the wall behind it. Didn't really work - it does channel sound. I've heard having room behind might work a bit. Plus there is some kind of fill that can be used as insulation and a sound barrier, but I have no idea what it is called anymore. But I'm also not a musician with experience, so take it all with a grain of salt.

I sound-proofed a room in my old apartment a few years ago. I was really trying to stop sound coming up from the apartment below (the woman who lived there snored with the volume of a Jurassic Park T-Rex).
I used specialized heavy floor mats that were bought from some acoustic company in England.
I remember that it was very important to seal the floor airtight as this was part of the way to prevent sound travelling.
If you are trying to stop sound moving horizontally perhaps you should consider putting a false wall so that you have some sealed dead space between your music room and your neighbours house.

[Hunt]

Science break.

For the First Time, Researchers See Structure That Allows Brain Cells to Communicate
Study Uses Cutting-Edge Technique to Image the Process of Neuronal Transmission
http://www.newswise.com/articles/for-th ... ommunicate
[youtube]PNhUqhwHDaQ[/youtube]

Way better if you watch it stoned.

[Hunt]

But then you could say that about most things.

[Kirbmarc]

When one religion is under attack, all religions are under attack, says Pope Francis:

Pope Francis has warned that a recent wave of jihadist attacks in Europe is proof that "the world is at war".

However, he stressed he did not mean a war of religions, but rather a conflict over "interests, money, resources".

He was speaking ahead of his visit to Poland to reporters seeking his comments on the murder of a Catholic priest by French jihadists on Tuesday.

Father Jacques Hamel was killed at a morning mass in his church in Saint-Etienne-du-Rouvray, northern France.

The killing was the latest of a spate of attacks carried out in France and Germany over the past few days and weeks, many of them attributed to Islamist militants.

"The word we hear a lot is insecurity, but the real word is war," the pontiff said.

"We must not be afraid to say the truth, the world is at war because it has lost peace.

"When I speak of war I speak of wars over interests, money, resources, not religion. All religions want peace, it's the others who want war," Pope Francis added.

The Pope has a PR job. He can't badmouth the product he's selling.

Religions are simply ways to get people to work for your goals for free, by selling the ideal of eternal retribution or eternal punishment after death, and by giving people the illusion of moral stability and of moral superiority to the non-believers (which motivates them to believe and to act in the name of their belief).

Your goals can be peaceful and cooperative, or revolutionary and innovative, or moralizing and authoritarian, or simply self-serving, or aggressive and competitive, or ultimately self-destructive, and all the degrees in between. The leader/s of a religion can be true believers, scammers, conformists, utilitarian or anything in between.

In any case they can't be expected to criticize the concept of religion itself, either because they truly believe in their religion, they realize it's their source of revenue, they're just so used to their lifestyle that they can't abandon it, they believe that their religions are lies, but useful lies with positive effects on society, or for more of these reasons (or for all of them together).

Religions are part of human nature. They evolve, change and die, but the psychological and sociological phenomena that create them live on. Ideologies are simply weaker religions which promise a reward before instead of after death (or at the end of times). Religions are stronger because the reward is left at the whims of an unknowable entity (a God or gods or "spirits") instead of tying any result entirely to human actions in the reality we can know about.

So it's pretty useless to wait for a religious leader to badmouth the concept of religion itself. A few centuries ago you could expect the Pope to call for a crusade against the infidel Muslims after the murder of a priest, but these days this is highly frowned upon for many good reasons.

Ultimately the Pope is simply saying what he has to say. He can't kickstart an open religious war, and he can't badmouth religion as a whole, so he pretty much has to blame external forces and interests. At least in public. I wouldn't be surprised if in private the Catholic Church is gathering its resources to plan a cultural fight against Islam.

[Kirbmarc]

Never mind, saw that the catechism states that what I remember is technically true for them:

Each man receives his eternal retribution in his immortal soul at the very moment of his death, in a particular judgment that refers his life to Christ: either entrance into the blessedness of heaven-through a purification594 or immediately,595 -- or immediate and everlasting damnation.596

At the evening of life, we shall be judged on our love.597

The purification process is a huge bonus for the Church, since if you pray for your loved ones' souls (and,incidentally, support the Church that allows your prayers to have strength) they're more likely to move on.

In a way it's like having a friend in the DMV who can make you jump the queue.

[Dave]

So saints, Mary, and dead babies are in heaven but no one else right?

Baptised dead babies, but yes, apart from that select group who reside / know heaven, everyone else who died waits in Purgatory until the day of judgement or until declared a saint.*

To the best of my knowledge.


* - I'm not quite sure as to whether the saint has to be found to be thus by us mortals before getting a pass out of Purgatory or whether god already knows this, has ushered them into heaven the moment they died and we're just playing catch-up on the approved list.

Didnt the church demote a bunch of saints recently? What happens then, do they have to go back to Purgatory?

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

Is it really important, what the church thinks?

[Pitchguest]

[youtube]qCj6YNIpqmA[/youtube]

Pitch: you mean this one?

That's the one, yeah. Couldn't get it to embed at the right time, though. ;)

[Pitchguest]

Is it really important, what the church thinks?

Nope.

[paddybrown]

Every time someone here mentions an odd interest they have, half the Pit chimes in saying they're interested in it too. So: anybody into tracing their family history?

I've been going through my notes recently, and I know all my ancestors' names and most of their dates going back to my great great grandparents, most of my 3xgreat grandparents, and about a third of my 4xgreat grandparents, although it falls off precipitously earlier than that. I know of one set of 8xgreat grandparents, Thomas Strachan and Isobell Thomson, who lived in Montrose, about halfway between Dundee and Aberdeen, on the east coast of Scotland in the 1680s.

Haven't found anybody glamourous or notorious. Most of my ancestors seem to be tenant farmers, in either eastern Scotland or north-eastern Ireland. One of my 5xgreat grandmothers, Mary Milne, had a sister who married Rabbie Burns' cousin's son, and one 3xgreat grandfather drove a coach for the Earl of Gosford (and died in the workhouse).

[MarcusAu]

Is it really important, what the church thinks?

Nope.

If everyone thought like you - we would never find out how many angels can dance on the head of pin.

[comhcinc]

I'm into tracing your family history.

[Dave]

Saw this. Was amused. Though y'all might be too:

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/ ... e=5825C30F

[katamari Damassi]

I need something to read. Any book recommendations?

Don Quixote. For my money, the best novel ever.

I HATED Don Quixote. I actually threw the book at the wall at one point-the upteenth reveal of a disguised nobleperson. And the poetry gives Yemmi a run for her money. It was a slog finishing both volumes.

[katamari Damassi]

I need something to read. Any book recommendations?

Read a draft of my new novelly thing. ^_^

I'd love to, but I don't have a tablet, so I'd have to read it on my laptop.

[RebeccaB]

I need something to read. Any book recommendations?

You could try one of mine. :)
http://www.amazon.com/Rebecca-J.-Bradle ... dp_epwbk_0

[BoxNDox]

That Lakota guy sounds more like the kind of pedant who would argue 'fewer, not less' rather than a native speaker. Lakota isn't as gendered as he suggests:

A small number of enclitics (approximately eight) differ in form based on the gender of the speaker. Yeló (men) ye (women) mark mild assertions. Kštó (women only according to most sources) marks strong assertion. Yo (men) and ye (women) mark neutral commands, yeto (men) and nito (women) mark familiar, and ye (both men and women) and na mark requests. He is used by both genders to mark direct questions, but men also use huo in more formal situations. So (men) and se (women) mark dubitative questions (where the person being asked is not assumed to know the answer).

While many native speakers and linguists agree that certain enclitics are associated with particular genders, such usage may not be exclusive. That is, individual men sometimes use enclitics associated with women, and vice versa (Trechter 1999).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakota_language

Doesn't make Plays with Camera a better movie though. It's still total shit.

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

I need something to read. Any book recommendations?

You could try one of mine. :)
http://www.amazon.com/Rebecca-J.-Bradle ... dp_epwbk_0

Well, talk about doxxing...

[feathers]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cni-9MbUEAApPJY.jpg:large

[RebeccaB]

I need something to read. Any book recommendations?

You could try one of mine. :)
http://www.amazon.com/Rebecca-J.-Bradle ... dp_epwbk_0

Well, talk about doxxing...

Not if it's shameless self-promotion. :)

[Gumby]

Every time someone here mentions an odd interest they have, half the Pit chimes in saying they're interested in it too. So: anybody into tracing their family history?

I'm into it somewhat. Just using the free functionality of ancestry.com I've been able to trace many of my family members back to the early 1700s. Quite entertaining but not so much I feel like purchasing a subscription to take it further.

[Eskarina]

You could try one of mine. :)
http://www.amazon.com/Rebecca-J.-Bradle ... dp_epwbk_0

Well, talk about doxxing...

Not if it's shameless self-promotion. :)

We have to protect you from yourself.

Wait, what? :bjarte:

[feathers]

Peez's self-pitying moment still boggles me.

http://imgur.com/AGHpFjd.jpg

Reference, if you need it. The thread, for context.

That one on the right must be the love child of these two:

http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/mup ... 0211234800https://jaapdenouden.files.wordpress.co ... 12/uil.jpg

[feathers]

The cardboard ones or the styrofoam? Does it actually work decent?

More than likely it wouldn't matter. The theory is to scatter sound waves in a regular pattern and create a lot of cancelling interference. Or something. This is beyond the "outer limits" of my knowledge of acoustics. Does it work? Try it and find out. First step: find a lot of egg cartons. Recycle bin of a place serving breakfast?

Code: Select all

for(5 years) {
  Breakfast = eggs & bacon
  lunch = hardboiled egg on rye bread or spaghetti carbonara
  dinner = hidden eggs or omelette; dessert of bavarois with Haagse Bluf
  evening drink = advocaat**
}

* http://www.thedutchtable.com/2013/05/haagse-bluf.html
** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advocaat

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Didnt the church demote a bunch of saints recently? What happens then, do they have to go back to Purgatory?

Joan of Arc was made a saint because three earlier saints talked to her. But then the RCC delisted one of those three saints. Does that bump Joan down to 2/3 saint?

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Every time someone here mentions an odd interest they have, half the Pit chimes in saying they're interested in it too. So: anybody into tracing their family history?

I've been going through my notes recently, and I know all my ancestors' names and most of their dates going back to my great great grandparents, most of my 3xgreat grandparents, and about a third of my 4xgreat grandparents, although it falls off precipitously earlier than that. I know of one set of 8xgreat grandparents, Thomas Strachan and Isobell Thomson, who lived in Montrose, about halfway between Dundee and Aberdeen, on the east coast of Scotland in the 1680s.

Haven't found anybody glamourous or notorious. Most of my ancestors seem to be tenant farmers, in either eastern Scotland or north-eastern Ireland. One of my 5xgreat grandmothers, Mary Milne, had a sister who married Rabbie Burns' cousin's son, and one 3xgreat grandfather drove a coach for the Earl of Gosford (and died in the workhouse).

I traced my ex-racehorse's lineage back 29 generations to the 1690's. Found photos or portraits of many of his ancestors.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

I need something to read. Any book recommendations?

Don Quixote. For my money, the best novel ever.

I HATED Don Quixote. I actually threw the book at the wall at one point-the upteenth reveal of a disguised nobleperson. And the poetry gives Yemmi a run for her money. It was a slog finishing both volumes.

I'm currently rewriting Don Quixote, verbatim, from scratch. Screwed up a couple of times & had to start over.

[/Borges]

[feathers]

I need something to read. Any book recommendations?

You could try one of mine. :)
http://www.amazon.com/Rebecca-J.-Bradle ... dp_epwbk_0

Holy smoke, the Pit has a real Oxbridge prof onboard!

Not this one I think:

This book contains a step-by-step guide to Redemption, as well as activities to put God's Redeeming Powers to action in your everyday lifestyle. It is filled with scriptural fact - and briefly touches on a true life story that will be an inspiration for your new beginning on the Road to Redemption.

"Scriptural fact"?

[RonSwanson]

Won't someone please think of the children! The children!!

Any of you into slitting people's throats at that age? Maybe we shouldn't be indoctrinating children into Islam then?

How old was Aisha?

It's some consolation that the priest lived over sixty years more than the piece of shit who killed him.

Apparently in Islamic jurisprudence the minimum age for a jihadi combatant is "anything after puberty." So Iyad being surprised by their youth is... interesting.

[free thoughtpolice]

I need something to read. Any book recommendations?

The Adventures of John Jewitt http://www.gutenberg.org/files/38010/38 ... 8010-h.htm

A non fiction work about a trader that was taken as a slave by Mowachaht Indians on Vancouver Island for 3 years that also gives good insight into the culture during early days of european contact.
When I worked in that area I had some beers with the ancestors of the tribe that captured him in the winter village mentioned in the book.
They didn't try to take me as a slave though. :bjarte:

[gurugeorge]

Islam wants "peace" in the sense of "unconditional surrender".

Islam is the religion of rest in pieces.

[gurugeorge]

Woops that was the wrong response, I was joining in with the joke thing.

[RebeccaB]

Not this one I think:

This book contains a step-by-step guide to Redemption, as well as activities to put God's Redeeming Powers to action in your everyday lifestyle. It is filled with scriptural fact - and briefly touches on a true life story that will be an inspiration for your new beginning on the Road to Redemption.

"Scriptural fact"?

Heh. No, definitely not that one. In fact, when that one came out, I gave it a disambiguating review: "Er - not really a review. I'm the OTHER Rebecca Bradley, the hardbitten unredeemed atheistic secular humanist apostate responsible for the Gil Trilogy, Temutma, and The Lateral Truth. I thought my namesake might appreciate the disclaimer. I hope she is as amused as I am at the coincidence."

Nor am I the nice retired policewoman living in England, writing police procedurals. Mine is a surprisingly common name.

[katamari Damassi]

McAfee-which came preinstalled on this machine-started bugging me about paying for it, so I uninstalled it. My god it acted like the HAL 9000 at the end of 2001. It kept begging me not to uninstall it lest I put the mission at risk.

[dogen]

Not this one I think:

This book contains a step-by-step guide to Redemption, as well as activities to put God's Redeeming Powers to action in your everyday lifestyle. It is filled with scriptural fact - and briefly touches on a true life story that will be an inspiration for your new beginning on the Road to Redemption.

"Scriptural fact"?

Heh. No, definitely not that one. In fact, when that one came out, I gave it a disambiguating review: "Er - not really a review. I'm the OTHER Rebecca Bradley, the hardbitten unredeemed atheistic secular humanist apostate responsible for the Gil Trilogy, Temutma, and The Lateral Truth. I thought my namesake might appreciate the disclaimer. I hope she is as amused as I am at the coincidence."

Nor am I the nice retired policewoman living in England, writing police procedurals. Mine is a surprisingly common name.

And there was I thinking you were on the supreme court of the State of Wisconsin. I even voted against you in the recent election! Bah.

[Lsuoma]

I need something to read. Any book recommendations?

The Adventures of John Jewitt http://www.gutenberg.org/files/38010/38 ... 8010-h.htm

A non fiction work about a trader that was taken as a slave by Mowachaht Indians on Vancouver Island for 3 years that also gives good insight into the culture during early days of european contact.
When I worked in that area I had some beers with the ancestors of the tribe that captured him in the winter village mentioned in the book.
They didn't try to take me as a slave though. :bjarte:

Ancestors? Can I borrow your time machine?

[Lsuoma]

McAfee-which came preinstalled on this machine-started bugging me about paying for it, so I uninstalled it. My god it acted like the HAL 9000 at the end of 2001. It kept begging me not to uninstall it lest I put the mission at risk.

Whenever I get a new machine, it's BAM!, format the fucking disk. No ifs, no buts. Luckily I do work for a local charity and as long as I am using the computer at least for some work related to it, I get to install a fresh (relatively) unencumbered Windows distro on it. Still sticking with 7, though it looks like my company is forcing us to 10 at work soon...

[HunnyBunny]

I need something to read. Any book recommendations?

You could try one of mine. :)
http://www.amazon.com/Rebecca-J.-Bradle ... dp_epwbk_0

Not if it's shameless self-promotion. :)

Shameless self-promotion? You don't seem at all like the peer-reviewed, university Press-published Dr Richard Carrier, PhD.

Anyway, well-timed literary intervention, I have purchased Lady in Gil. I was wondering what to read next, after I drag myself in of an evening from 10 hours gardening. Whose bright idea was it to mass-plant a hillside in lavender because France?

[Gumby]

McAfee-which came preinstalled on this machine-started bugging me about paying for it, so I uninstalled it. My god it acted like the HAL 9000 at the end of 2001. It kept begging me not to uninstall it lest I put the mission at risk.

Whenever I get a new machine, it's BAM!, format the fucking disk. No ifs, no buts. Luckily I do work for a local charity and as long as I am using the computer at least for some work related to it, I get to install a fresh (relatively) unencumbered Windows distro on it. Still sticking with 7, though it looks like my company is forcing us to 10 at work soon...

10 isn't bad, but check the internet for all the shit to turn off so it doesn't rape your privacy. There's a reason Microsoft is giving it away for free.

[Tigzy]

Whenever I get a new machine, it's BAM!, format the fucking disk. No ifs, no buts.

I would have started with lasers. Eight o'clock, day one!

[MarcusAu]

Since there seemed to be (at least some) positive reaction to the Two Ronnies 'Short and Fat Minstral Show' - I thought the following might be of interest to pit regulars - at least in the context of a contemporary reaction to the second wave feminism of the 70s.

Mens Rights wha hae (as they might of said in Scotland)

[youtube]GcMd1F1acSo[/youtube]