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How many of the offence brigade deplatformed Hitchens after that? How many of them rationalized it, whilst offering him their asses at the latest circle jerk they begged for him to attend?

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I still wanna know how Steersman plans to deal with those people who voluntarily convert to islam after all the 'already muslim' lot have been deported.

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Tigzy wrote:I still wanna know how Steersman plans to deal with those people who voluntarily convert to islam after all the 'already muslim' lot have been deported.
Look, all you got to do is watermark all our currency with bacon fat. Job done.

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heddle wrote:<snip>

But--I said--Carrier is sorta correct. He is (or would be) if he simply stated that multiverse theories and God both explain fine-tuning, but the multiverse theory is more parsimonious with current cosmology. But Carrier can't make such a simple straightforward statement. He is the proverbial self-made man in love with his creation. He must be right, and he must be rate because of his horrid math, not in spite of it.
The funny thing is that, as far as I can tell (but I never read most of his stuff on this subject), Carrier is not appealing to the multiverse. At least, that is what I deduce from the following paragraph:
In short, if atheism is true, we will only ever find ourselves in universes like ours (extremely old and large, extremely hostile to life, but at least barely capable of producing it somewhere at some point eventually), so the universe we observe (including all its apparent fine tuning) has a probability of 100% if there is no god. Whereas if a god created this universe for life, it would far more likely lack these features (it would not need to be extremely old and large, or extremely hostile to life), so the probability of observing the universe we do if god created it is actually very much less than 100%. Our universe is therefore more likely if God does not exist.
To me the reasoning here is already quite muddled -- now imagine it dressed up in rags of garbled pseudo-mathematics, and you are looking at a repulsive heap of total rubbish. In other words, Carrier is not only not sort of correct, he is not even wrong. :lol:

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Merkel has proposed the perfect solution! The refugees will just go home when the war is over! Everyone is happy now, right? I mean, how long can conflicts in the Middle East last?

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Guest_0048cc29 wrote:My very limited personal experience and knowledge learned via the news is that Jewish Bet Dins are very supportive of women wanting divorces and doing the utmost to get the man to issue a "get", so, #NotAllBetDins, as exemplified by the Orthodox rabbi given 10 years for kidnapping and beating husbands who would not issue the get. I haven't heard of that occurring in Sharia courts.
Supposing it's true, it's good to hear that at least some religious courts do good, but: we have no need for such a thing, because we have the law of the land for that. That's why it was established.

Besides, if you allow sectarian courts based on religion, can I also have one for atheists? Pastafarians? Fans of Death Metal, pigeon keepers, cleptomaniacs?

No, just no, this must be killed in the bud.

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VickyCaramel wrote:
Tigzy wrote:I still wanna know how Steersman plans to deal with those people who voluntarily convert to islam after all the 'already muslim' lot have been deported.
Look, all you got to do is watermark all our currency with bacon fat. Job done.

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This tweet is a good example of the hashtag.


I am know crap about Sweden outside of their famous chief.

Is neo nazis really that big of an issue?

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comhcinc wrote: This tweet is a good example of the hashtag.


I am know crap about Sweden outside of their famous chief.

Is neo nazis really that big of an issue?
By and large, I think that neo Nazi is the new neocon, the scary sounding name the SJWs use to tar others. See also male supremacist.

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feathers wrote: Besides, if you allow sectarian courts based on religion, can I also have one for atheists? Pastafarians? Fans of Death Metal, pigeon keepers, cleptomaniacs?
Yes, yes you can. Look, the religious courts are to the real court system simply one of many versions of alternative dispute resolution. The real courts, being overworked, encourage the use of ADL. And for many issues, ADL works. Ive taken issues before arbitrators before and it often can result in a faster and fairer resolution for all. To the courts, a Bet Din or Sharia court is just another form of arbitration. If you want to create the Pastafarian Arbitration Association, go right ahead. As I mentioned before, the problem with Bet Dins, Sharia courts and their Christian counterparts (yes there are Christian Arbitration associations to decide disputes in a biblical manner) is the social pressure to accept their results even when it does not compart with the secular law, as well as the fact that sometimes the participants arent even aware that recourse to the secular law is available. At least here in the US, we cant specifically ban religiously based arbitration because of the 1st Amend. So either we allow ADL or we dont. Perhaps in Old Blighty you can specifically ban Sharia courts but leave normal arbitration, I dont know.

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some guy wrote:
screwtape wrote:
Cnutella wrote:Here's a handy site - it tracks Patreon earnings and subscribers.

R. Watson: https://graphtreon.com/creator/rebecca

Brianna Wu: https://graphtreon.com/creator/user?u=439829

Both are nosediving.
There's something odd about those graphs—both Watson and Wu show two dips in mid-November, a large fall in the second week of December, and a small fall with some recovery in early January. What's the explanation?
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Doh! Always read the fine print. Also, the axis starts at about $800, which makes things look worse. Could still be a useful tracking resource though.
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If you read the explanation below the graphs explaning the regions marked * and ** (where things drop), Patreon changed from reporting $s *pledged* to $s *actually received*. So there is no real change (and Watson seems to have actually gained some $ recently).

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feathers wrote:
VickyCaramel wrote:I think we should have really clarified this at the beginning, although I have said I am not questioning the masculinity of Italian men.
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feathers wrote:
Besides, if you allow sectarian courts based on religion, can I also have one for atheists? Pastafarians? Fans of Death Metal, pigeon keepers, cleptomaniacs?
Yes, yes you can. Thats what makes trying to ban religious courts seem so ridiculous to me. If a group of people agree to abide by the rulings of the court of their choice... how would the state even know let alone be able to stop it.

And frankly, a group of people making an agreement, putting it on paper... thats how things should be done. Why wouldn't a UK court recognize their contracts and agreements?

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VickyCaramel wrote:
feathers wrote:
Besides, if you allow sectarian courts based on religion, can I also have one for atheists? Pastafarians? Fans of Death Metal, pigeon keepers, cleptomaniacs?
Yes, yes you can. Thats what makes trying to ban religious courts seem so ridiculous to me. If a group of people agree to abide by the rulings of the court of their choice... how would the state even know let alone be able to stop it.
Depending on the nature of the matter, the real courts may need to rubber stamp the decision, so they would know about it then. In a contract dispute with an arbitration clause, there is no need to go before a real judge unless one party refuses to accept the arbitration finding. However in Family Court and and Surrogates Court, which is where the religious courts usually cause problems, a real court must rubber-stamp the decision for it to be binding, and so would be aware of it.

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Dave wrote:
feathers wrote: Besides, if you allow sectarian courts based on religion, can I also have one for atheists? Pastafarians? Fans of Death Metal, pigeon keepers, cleptomaniacs?
Yes, yes you can. Look, the religious courts are to the real court system simply one of many versions of alternative dispute resolution. The real courts, being overworked, encourage the use of ADL. And for many issues, ADL works. Ive taken issues before arbitrators before and it often can result in a faster and fairer resolution for all. To the courts, a Bet Din or Sharia court is just another form of arbitration. If you want to create the Pastafarian Arbitration Association, go right ahead. As I mentioned before, the problem with Bet Dins, Sharia courts and their Christian counterparts (yes there are Christian Arbitration associations to decide disputes in a biblical manner) is the social pressure to accept their results even when it does not compart with the secular law, as well as the fact that sometimes the participants arent even aware that recourse to the secular law is available. At least here in the US, we cant specifically ban religiously based arbitration because of the 1st Amend. So either we allow ADL or we dont. Perhaps in Old Blighty you can specifically ban Sharia courts but leave normal arbitration, I dont know.
Exactly, use of arbitration is encouraged, even religious courts. If you were to outlaw Bet Dins it would increase the workload of the Civil Court System by 87%. :rimshot:

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feathers wrote:
Scented Nectar wrote:Pork on a Friday is a nice fuck off to 3 religions. Islam (pork and Friday is their holy day so extra bad), judaism (pork), and some christians ( the types who don't eat meat on Fridays).
And after the bacon-saturated meal, you drink beer (muslims) until the start of the Sabbath and press the elevator button to get to your room (to piss off some orthodox jews).
And piss off some feminists! :lol:

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Dave wrote:
feathers wrote: Besides, if you allow sectarian courts based on religion, can I also have one for atheists? Pastafarians? Fans of Death Metal, pigeon keepers, cleptomaniacs?
Yes, yes you can. Look, the religious courts are to the real court system simply one of many versions of alternative dispute resolution. The real courts, being overworked, encourage the use of ADL. And for many issues, ADL works. Ive taken issues before arbitrators before and it often can result in a faster and fairer resolution for all. To the courts, a Bet Din or Sharia court is just another form of arbitration. If you want to create the Pastafarian Arbitration Association, go right ahead. As I mentioned before, the problem with Bet Dins, Sharia courts and their Christian counterparts (yes there are Christian Arbitration associations to decide disputes in a biblical manner) is the social pressure to accept their results even when it does not compart with the secular law, as well as the fact that sometimes the participants arent even aware that recourse to the secular law is available. At least here in the US, we cant specifically ban religiously based arbitration because of the 1st Amend. So either we allow ADL or we dont. Perhaps in Old Blighty you can specifically ban Sharia courts but leave normal arbitration, I dont know.
Just to emphasize (according to my understanding) this is for civil suits, not for criminal cases.

So Bet Din and Sharia Court is in some sense no different (or even less obnoxious) than when Comcast mandates you can't sue them you have to submit to binding arbitration. I don't know how real that you can't use MegaEvilCorp thing is, but it seems pretty real. At least my understanding of Bet Din is that if you don't like it, you get to go to a real court.

I honestly don't know if I ever get to sue Comcast in real court. Is that like how an ultra-orthodox woman might not know she can go to real family court?
even when it does not compart with the secular law
It must be stated that Family Court does not comport with common sense OR secular law. See Volokh, et. al., for details.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Spike13 wrote:
2cents on the subject, in Werner Von Mellonthin's book "Panzer Battles", he remarks on his impression of Italian allies.

Paraphrasing, the Italians who were put under German command did quite well and he had little complaint about them.

Take that for what it's worth.
Wasn't it von Mellenthin who recalled being shocked by an Italian colonel who forced a lieutenant to dine at a separate table, when Mellenthin always ate together with his Gefreiter driver?

Yes! That story was in the book!

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katamari Damassi wrote:I'm enjoying Damien in this thread: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/accordingtomatthew/

I'm pleased to see push back in the comments section from the ole "feminism is good for men too" trope
I was surprised to see nearly half of women state that inequality was their fault. I’d really like to ask these women what choices they are making that are creating such inequality!
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Steersman wrote:
HunnyBunny wrote: Last time they rebooted Steers he started agreeing with the National Front. I believe there is concern another reboot may result in an endless loop of Mein Kampf / Stalin quotes.
Sheesh. Link to one neo-Nazi site, and that might be debatable, and one is forever tainted - at least in the eyes of some who seem to have less commitment to the principles of skepticism than they apparently claim ....

*snip*
Islam simply isn't going to change unless the countries Muslims wish to immigrate to draw a line or two in the sand. Apropos of which:
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I wasn't suggesting you agree with the national front because you linked to a far right source. I am saying you agree with the National Front because of what you say.

"Repudiate Islam, piss on the quran, deport the fucking lot of them" is far right ideology.

And you are just wrong, your mantra has no basis in reality and repeating it will mark you out as a bigoted fanatic.

I linked you a book last night on twitter that Maryam Namazie mentioned, I urge you to read it. Secularism is the way forward, the marginalisation of ideas, not inhumane treatment of people.

Governments have much to answer for in this current groundswell of support for the far right. The Western European governments are treating the majority of their citizens as bigots, racists, islamaphobes, and deciding that they must ignore the people's complaints in favour of those claiming being anti-immigration is racist.

It is far more about resources and preservation of secular way of life that exists in most EU countries than it is about xenophobia. It is a self-fulfilling prophesy though, because the far right are the only ones listening to the people, and so more gravitate to them.

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comhcinc wrote:
John D wrote:
deLurch wrote:I don't think he looks like Michael Jackson.

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Then again, I don't know anyone with the acting skill to pull it off could match Michael Jackson's facial features. Maybe they should have gone for a woman.
It's a relatively close match... but of course.... no one on earth has Jackson "end-stage" nose. So.... my challenge to you is to find ANY well respected Black actor who looks anything like Jackson. I will start a count-down... 10....9....8....7.
Done.

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HunnyBunny wrote:
Steersman wrote:
HunnyBunny wrote: Last time they rebooted Steers he started agreeing with the National Front. I believe there is concern another reboot may result in an endless loop of Mein Kampf / Stalin quotes.
Sheesh. Link to one neo-Nazi site, and that might be debatable, and one is forever tainted - at least in the eyes of some who seem to have less commitment to the principles of skepticism than they apparently claim ....

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Islam simply isn't going to change unless the countries Muslims wish to immigrate to draw a line or two in the sand. Apropos of which:
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I wasn't suggesting you agree with the national front because you linked to a far right source. I am saying you agree with the National Front because of what you say.

"Repudiate Islam, piss on the quran, deport the fucking lot of them" is far right ideology.

And you are just wrong, your mantra has no basis in reality and repeating it will mark you out as a bigoted fanatic.

I linked you a book last night on twitter that Maryam Namazie mentioned, I urge you to read it. Secularism is the way forward, the marginalisation of ideas, not inhumane treatment of people.

Governments have much to answer for in this current groundswell of support for the far right. The Western European governments are treating the majority of their citizens as bigots, racists, islamaphobes, and deciding that they must ignore the people's complaints in favour of those claiming being anti-immigration is racist.

It is far more about resources and preservation of secular way of life that exists in most EU countries than it is about xenophobia. It is a self-fulfilling prophesy though, because the far right are the only ones listening to the people, and so more gravitate to them.
Um, you tweeted the wrong Steersman. Steers goes by @steersmann.

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Gumby wrote:*snip*
Um, you tweeted the wrong Steersman. Steers goes by @steersmann.[/quote]

Doh. Wondered why I didn't get a stream of indeeds and apropos of whiches.

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John D wrote:
deLurch wrote:I don't think he looks like Michael Jackson.

https://veuwer.com/i/3lpg.jpg

Then again, I don't know anyone with the acting skill to pull it off could match Michael Jackson's facial features. Maybe they should have gone for a woman.
It's a relatively close match... but of course.... no one on earth has Jackson "end-stage" nose. So.... my challenge to you is to find ANY well respected Black actor who looks anything like Jackson. I will start a count-down... 10....9....8....7.

If a white actor is going to play the role of a notorious black celebrity child molester it's only fair that the same thing happens in reverse.

The Jimmy Saville Story?

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Ow's about that then!

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comhcinc wrote: This tweet is a good example of the hashtag.


I am know crap about Sweden outside of their famous chief.

Is neo nazis really that big of an issue?
So presumably she's against other 'protections' such as safe spaces, no-platforming, laws against online 'harassment', etc?

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Will Wheaton - another one who thought social justice was so whuuunnderful until it was applied to him.

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Steersman wrote:
screwtape wrote:
Concrete thinking at its finest, Steers, old boy. Read the cartoon speech bubble and you will see why MarcusAu posted it. I suspect your CoreEmpathySimulation process has crashed. Please reboot.
:-) If I ever get around to writing some AI software I'll be sure to consider that as an appropriate label for some modules. But saw that one robot was calling itself Hammerstein but that still seemed a non sequitur, although maybe it was too late to be firing on all cylinders.

Hammerstein is one of the ABC warriors. A comic book from the same guys who gave us Judge Dredd.

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Tigzy wrote:Will Wheaton - another one who thought social justice was so whuuunnderful until it was applied to him.

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Spike13 wrote:
Steersman wrote:
screwtape wrote:
Concrete thinking at its finest, Steers, old boy. Read the cartoon speech bubble and you will see why MarcusAu posted it. I suspect your CoreEmpathySimulation process has crashed. Please reboot.
:-) If I ever get around to writing some AI software I'll be sure to consider that as an appropriate label for some modules. But saw that one robot was calling itself Hammerstein but that still seemed a non sequitur, although maybe it was too late to be firing on all cylinders.

Hammerstein is one of the ABC warriors. A comic book from the same guys who gave us Judge Dredd.
Hammerstein first appeared in RoBusters in the comic Starlord. He was an ex-military robot with a hammer in place of one hand (hence Hammerstein) who constantly banged on about his war days to his partner Ro-Jaws (Ro-Jaws & Hammerstein, geddit?). ABC Warriors stood for Atomic, Bacterial & Chemical.

Starlord was absorbed into 2000ad when the British comic market contractedand they retconned his backstory (as told in ABC Warriors) into the same timeline as the earlier 2000ad story Invasion!

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Really? wrote:Merkel has proposed the perfect solution! The refugees will just go home when the war is over! Everyone is happy now, right? I mean, how long can conflicts in the Middle East last?
That evoked a giggle from me. :clap:

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Cnutella wrote:
Tigzy wrote:Will Wheaton - another one who thought social justice was so whuuunnderful until it was applied to him.

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Kneel before Zod!

The whole Kneel before Zod thing is fucking stupid. Attack her methods and beliefs but for fuck sake a picture of Zod doesn't mean shit.

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"Harpies" carries sexist baggage, but "bros" does not?!*

She's totally bat-shit, isn't she?

* nb. in D&D, there are male harpies

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windy wrote:
katamari Damassi wrote:I'm enjoying Damien in this thread: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/accordingtomatthew/

I'm pleased to see push back in the comments section from the ole "feminism is good for men too" trope
I was surprised to see nearly half of women state that inequality was their fault. I’d really like to ask these women what choices they are making that are creating such inequality!
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Here's what strikes me about that article: A public that is growing increasingly pro-gay and irreligious should in theory be down with what feminism claims to be about.

And actually, the public increasingly is in favor of what feminism claims to be about.

The problem is that feminism is increasingly not about what it claims to be about, and people see that.

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VickyCaramel wrote:
Tigzy wrote:I still wanna know how Steersman plans to deal with those people who voluntarily convert to islam after all the 'already muslim' lot have been deported.
Look, all you got to do is watermark all our currency with bacon fat. Job done.
Put menstrual blood in the water supply. Kinda like fluoride .

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
VickyCaramel wrote:
Tigzy wrote:I still wanna know how Steersman plans to deal with those people who voluntarily convert to islam after all the 'already muslim' lot have been deported.
Look, all you got to do is watermark all our currency with bacon fat. Job done.
Put menstrual blood in the water supply. Kinda like fluoride .
I go to the local reservoir once a week and make a deposit of my precious bodily fluids. I like to give back to my community.

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Dave wrote: There is a lot of social pressure to not to rock the boat that way. Doing so often means alienation from family and all existing social support. There is also the problem in divorce proceedings, without a divorce decree from the religious court, the participants cannot remarry in their community -- although they may be divorced in the eyes of the state and therefore free to remarry, they are not in the eyes of their community and therefore will have difficulty remarrying or even dating within their community.

Disclaimer, I am not familiar with operations of Family Law courts across the pond, the above is based on my experience here in Murrica!
I know of a real life case. She was told to her face that her state granted divorce was not recognized and as long as her former spouse was alive she could not marry again.

She then remarried anyway. Subsequently she was told to her face that she was an adulteress and would remain so even when her former spouse died.

*shrug*

Now she did not care in the least what they said or thought. But someone else who does care is going to be governed by it.

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comhcinc wrote:
Cnutella wrote:
Tigzy wrote:Will Wheaton - another one who thought social justice was so whuuunnderful until it was applied to him.
Kneel before Zod!

The whole Kneel before Zod thing is fucking stupid. Attack her methods and beliefs but for fuck sake a picture of Zod doesn't mean shit.
Oh shit I knew I'd forgotten something.

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AndrewV69 wrote:
Dave wrote: There is a lot of social pressure to not to rock the boat that way. Doing so often means alienation from family and all existing social support. There is also the problem in divorce proceedings, without a divorce decree from the religious court, the participants cannot remarry in their community -- although they may be divorced in the eyes of the state and therefore free to remarry, they are not in the eyes of their community and therefore will have difficulty remarrying or even dating within their community.

Disclaimer, I am not familiar with operations of Family Law courts across the pond, the above is based on my experience here in Murrica!
I know of a real life case. She was told to her face that her state granted divorce was not recognized and as long as her former spouse was alive she could not marry again.

She then remarried anyway. Subsequently she was told to her face that she was an adulteress and would remain so even when her former spouse died.

*shrug*

Now she did not care in the least what they said or thought. But someone else who does care is going to be governed by it.
Catholic, was she?

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KiwiInOz wrote:Catholic, was she?
Jews have the same rule, only they call a divorce a Get, which always amused me.

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Billie from Ockham wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote:Catholic, was she?
Jews have the same rule, only they call a divorce a Get, which always amused me.
Ahh. That explains the etymology of Get Fucked.

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Tigzy wrote:Will Wheaton - another one who thought social justice was so whuuunnderful until it was applied to him.

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Thought? He is still groveling to it.

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Spike13 wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Spike13 wrote:
2cents on the subject, in Werner Von Mellonthin's book "Panzer Battles", he remarks on his impression of Italian allies.

Paraphrasing, the Italians who were put under German command did quite well and he had little complaint about them.

Take that for what it's worth.
Wasn't it von Mellenthin who recalled being shocked by an Italian colonel who forced a lieutenant to dine at a separate table, when Mellenthin always ate together with his Gefreiter driver?

Yes! That story was in the book!
Fucking A! Read that in 1979 or thereabouts.

(Now, if I could remember where I put my glasses ....)

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Tigzy wrote:Will Wheaton - another one who thought social justice was so whuuunnderful until it was applied to him.

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KiwiInOz wrote:
AndrewV69 wrote:
Dave wrote: There is a lot of social pressure to not to rock the boat that way. Doing so often means alienation from family and all existing social support. There is also the problem in divorce proceedings, without a divorce decree from the religious court, the participants cannot remarry in their community -- although they may be divorced in the eyes of the state and therefore free to remarry, they are not in the eyes of their community and therefore will have difficulty remarrying or even dating within their community.

Disclaimer, I am not familiar with operations of Family Law courts across the pond, the above is based on my experience here in Murrica!
I know of a real life case. She was told to her face that her state granted divorce was not recognized and as long as her former spouse was alive she could not marry again.

She then remarried anyway. Subsequently she was told to her face that she was an adulteress and would remain so even when her former spouse died.

*shrug*

Now she did not care in the least what they said or thought. But someone else who does care is going to be governed by it.
Catholic, was she?
Yep. Easy to figure that one out.

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Damion's saving all the fun for himself -- the amazingly retarded Matthew Facciani lists Two Big Reasons atheists should be feminists. I compare that to ReGreta's black outreach program:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/accordingt ... 2494993321

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:Damion's saving all the fun for himself -- the amazingly retarded Matthew Facciani lists Two Big Reasons atheists should be feminists. I compare that to ReGreta's black outreach program:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/accordingt ... 2494993321
"Please be a poe!"

Who me?

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Bourne Skeptic wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:Damion's saving all the fun for himself -- the amazingly retarded Matthew Facciani lists Two Big Reasons atheists should be feminists. I compare that to ReGreta's black outreach program:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/accordingt ... 2494993321
"Please be a poe!"

Who me?
Fucker.

:lol:

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Haha, Wheaton wrote an essay to explain himself:

There's no reason to read past the second paragraph.

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just to confirm?? racismisbaddude is a poe...

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Guestus Aurelius wrote:Haha, Wheaton wrote an essay to explain himself:

There's no reason to read past the second paragraph.
Shut up , Wesley
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Or if you just feel the need to flap you lips grow a pair of balls.

People were(are) attacking a group you are a part of with petty name calling and you are going to apologize to them? What a fucking piss baby.

Reading that you can tell he just really wants to tell these people to get fucked but he is just too chicken shit to do so.




I feel sorry for him. I really do.


Lol
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And he did. Like a bitch.

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Guestus Aurelius wrote:Haha, Wheaton wrote an essay to explain himself:

There's no reason to read past the second paragraph.
Woah. Nearly 2000 words. Hits all the standard talking education 101 points, more than once. Feels he has to stress, repeatedly, that his choice for Sanders has nothing to do with Clinton's gender. Identifies in this line the 2 types of people (it is supposed) who support Sanders: "Bernie Bros ... a shitty group of shitty people (who I honestly can’t believe are genuine progressives like the rest of us who want Bernie to get the nomination)."

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Guest_0048cc29 wrote:just to confirm?? racismisbaddude is a poe...
Rod E Kelly was being a poe.

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Bourne Skeptic wrote:
Guest_0048cc29 wrote:just to confirm?? racismisbaddude is a poe...
Rod E Kelly was being a poe.
Apologies for not being clear.

I just want to confirm, racismisbaddude is ALSO a poe.

but searching the pit, I see that's old news, it's likely everyone here has at one point said that racismisbaddude is a poe.

That's one of the problems with the net these days, poes everywhere.

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Skep tickle wrote:
Guestus Aurelius wrote:Haha, Wheaton wrote an essay to explain himself:

There's no reason to read past the second paragraph.
Woah. Nearly 2000 words. Hits all the standard talking education 101 points, more than once. Feels he has to stress, repeatedly, that his choice for Sanders has nothing to do with Clinton's gender. Identifies in this line the 2 types of people (it is supposed) who support Sanders: "Bernie Bros ... a shitty group of shitty people (who I honestly can’t believe are genuine progressives like the rest of us who want Bernie to get the nomination)."
The SJ hyenas have caught the scent of a heretic in their midst. And he knows it!

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Guest_0048cc29 wrote:
Bourne Skeptic wrote:
Guest_0048cc29 wrote:just to confirm?? racismisbaddude is a poe...
Rod E Kelly was being a poe.
Apologies for not being clear.

I just want to confirm, racismisbaddude is ALSO a poe.

but searching the pit, I see that's old news, it's likely everyone here has at one point said that racismisbaddude is a poe.

That's one of the problems with the net these days, poes everywhere.
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Bourne Skeptic wrote:
Guest_0048cc29 wrote:just to confirm?? racismisbaddude is a poe...
Rod E Kelly was being a poe.

Stan Brooks isn't. That dude is legit.

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Skep tickle wrote:
Guestus Aurelius wrote:Haha, Wheaton wrote an essay to explain himself:

There's no reason to read past the second paragraph.
Woah. Nearly 2000 words. Hits all the standard talking education 101 points, more than once. Feels he has to stress, repeatedly, that his choice for Sanders has nothing to do with Clinton's gender. Identifies in this line the 2 types of people (it is supposed) who support Sanders: "Bernie Bros ... a shitty group of shitty people (who I honestly can’t believe are genuine progressives like the rest of us who want Bernie to get the nomination)."
Now that you've consensually engaged me in conversation, Skep tickle, I just want to take a quick moment to acknowledge my privilege. I know that as a well-endowed cis-orange-yellowish dictionary, I'm playing life on a much lower difficulty setting than a zebra. I hope this convinces you that I'm not one of those shitty equinophobic dictionaries. Those fuckers. They're totally the out-group for both of us. See? We're part of the same in-group, after all.

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comhcinc wrote:
Bourne Skeptic wrote:
Guest_0048cc29 wrote:just to confirm?? racismisbaddude is a poe...
Rod E Kelly was being a poe.

Stan Brooks isn't. That dude is legit.
He's a righteous dude.

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