Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

[Lsuoma]

Bowie was a fine actor, though too often wasted in silly cameos. My personal favorite roles of his were Pontius Pilate and Nicolai Tesla.

But would he have made a good Biggus Dickus?

[Cnutella]

Apparently this is filling up Aoife's newsfeed, but strangely when I do a search I can't find any reports of this terrible incident, where he had sex with an underage girl. But Aoife speaks of it as an absolute certainty, although I don't remember a court case proving guilt on Bowie's part.

But Aoife says we must talk about these things, and it's ok to be furious with a person dead less than 24 hours because what Bowie 'did' caused irreversible harm and we must 'condemn the human excrement who do terrible things'.

But she loved Bowie, she really did.

What a bitch.

They got right on the Bowie story with remarkable alacrity. See, they can do it, so long as the abuse happened in 197-whatever. And that the alleged abuser is now dead. And, most importantly, white.

[free thoughtpolice]

PZ is more likely to be spiteful toward the Vikings for being liked by his neighbors. He's happy they lost, or smug about not following football. He probably identifies with Seattle the same way he thinks of himself as a sophisticated European intellectual. Unless his playerhater faggotry makes him hate Seattle, too.

In junior high there were 4 football squads, so we had separate names from the main school mascot. Another team called themselves the Cornhuskers as an inside joke about masturbation. So my team called ourselves the Fudge Packers.

Football is even more homosocial than NASCAR racing. :ugeek:

[Cnutella]

Bowie was a fine actor, though too often wasted in silly cameos. My personal favorite roles of his were Pontius Pilate and Nicolai Tesla.

But would he have made a good Biggus Dickus?

Maybe you blotted Labyrinth from your memory. He could have had someone's eye out.

[comhcinc]

Bowie was a fine actor, though too often wasted in silly cameos. My personal favorite roles of his were Pontius Pilate and Nicolai Tesla.

But would he have made a good Biggus Dickus?

Maybe you blotted Labyrinth from your memory. He could have had someone's eye out.

The true power of the Goblin King is revealed.

[Billie from Ockham]

Maybe you blotted Labyrinth from your memory. He could have had someone's eye out.

Was he in that? I only recall a giant set of 16-year-old bewbs. Plus maybe some stuffed animals.

[Tigzy]

Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence was his best movie, IMO.

Aye. That said, I think he showed much better acting chops as Tesla in The Prestige. All round, though, MCML is the better film.

[Cnutella]

I guess we'll never see Labyrinth 3D now.

But yeah. Shit. I won't be able to listen to any Bowie for a while now - all the songs will sound completely different from now on. Fuck.

Then re-listen to Lou Reed's Transformer, the best Bowie album he never played on. Between him and Mick Ronson, their production skills made it into something extraordinary. Comparing the highly forgettable Velvet Underground original of Andy's Chest with the camp anthemic menace of the Bowie version reminds me what a genius he was...

[youtube]Txx0IGg9-pU[/youtube]

vs

[youtube]_VV0HCTkHtc[/youtube]

Oh shit I've gone all NME. Back to work.

[Cnutella]

But would he have made a good Biggus Dickus?

Maybe you blotted Labyrinth from your memory. He could have had someone's eye out.

The true power of the Goblin King is revealed.

Four word review: "I'm not goblin' that. "

[piginthecity]

[quote="Really?"]

What the fuck is this about?

Okay, I've listened to (most of) this drivel so you lucky people don't have to.

It is interesting from the standpoint of tactics, though. The upshot is that Kitty Winter seems to want to die on the hill of the following logic:

Social Sciences have just the same validity as hard sciences.

Ideas such as patriarchy, 'The Wage Gap' etc are thoroughly proven by the social scientists using data.

All discussion must be within the parameters of the 'evidence', in other words moderated by a social scientist who believes in 'patriarchy' etc and will disallow all dissent as being non-evidential.

Anyone who disagrees with any of the above is a denialist akin to a creationist.

It's actually a thinly disguised way of trying to set the groundwork for a later appeal to authority. All arguments will be rejected if they don't come with the correct 'stamp of approval' from a 'political scientist'.

Funnily enough, the first person who didn't get it was poor Kevin, who kept trying to derail the logic by switching to the opposite logic, i.e. claiming that we the shitlords say "Citation Required!" in a robotic voice.

[cnut the great]

Another article on Cologne. From a Christian.

The Patheos atheist channel is teh silent

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/geneveith/ ... mmigrants/

SILENT NO MORE

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... -assaults/

[katamari Damassi]

Apparently this is filling up Aoife's newsfeed, but strangely when I do a search I can't find any reports of this terrible incident, where he had sex with an underage girl. But Aoife speaks of it as an absolute certainty, although I don't remember a court case proving guilt on Bowie's part.

But Aoife says we must talk about these things, and it's ok to be furious with a person dead less than 24 hours because what Bowie 'did' caused irreversible harm and we must 'condemn the human excrement who do terrible things'.

But she loved Bowie, she really did.

What a bitch.

They got right on the Bowie story with remarkable alacrity. See, they can do it, so long as the abuse happened in 197-whatever. And that the alleged abuser is now dead. And, most importantly, white.

I'm glad. I want Bowie to be ruined for the SJW's the way Melissa McEwen hopes that Star Wars is ruined for white men.

[free thoughtpolice]

http://www.euronews.com/newswires/31231 ... a-monitor/
I must have missed it. When did Alex Gabriel join ISIS?

[Tigzy]

http://www.euronews.com/newswires/31231 ... a-monitor/
I must have missed it. When did Alex Gabriel join ISIS?

Sorry to disappoint, but it said 'mother', not 'grandmother'.

[piginthecity]

Wow, an SJW cartoon explaining sexism that's actually somewhat amusing. And in the Guardian, no less.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... xism-again

Even if you don't find it funny, you still have to admit that it's the first SJW cartoon to use the phrase "Show us your norks". The forced blokeiness of it may still grate though.

So hitting on women at work is sexism? Many couples I know have met at work, and in most cases it was the man who hit on the woman. It seems that they didn't mind the sexism.

Also, the phrase 'hitting on' is weaselly in itself. It implies that the hitter has all the agency and the hittee is just a passive recipient. In actual fact, in the case of a sincere social or sexual advance, the hitter is the one who is making him or herself vulnerable to rejection, which is the main risk of the situation, and the hittee who is in the position of power because he or she can reject.

[another lurker]

Anyone who disagrees with any of the above is a denialist akin to a creationist.

The irony being that SJWs use creationist style arguments. They always talk shit about pro-lifers too. About how pro-lifers are so intellectually dishonest. Well, in my recent dealings with them, they are taking arguments right from the pro-life playbook. They elevate the 'oppressed person', which is really fucking creepy, treating them as if they are the most precious glass, glass that will shatter at any moment. We must protect oppressed Muslim rapist men, because, well, they are oppressed cuz brown. However, a few hundred (or thousand?) sexual assaults a year from these men is acceptable, because anti-Muslim bigotry = greater harm. We must sacrifice a few, to save many more.

And when you ask them the really tough questions, the questions that require a yes or no answer, you won't get it. They respond with 'well, what we need to do is just prevent ALL rape. But I don't see any solutions from you, probably because you are a bigot!!!1111'. Or "we don't need to talk about that, as the % is so low that it doesn't count'

Every dishonest trick in the book.

I really don't think that all of them believe the bullshit that they spout. But, they are a part of a group. And there is pressure to conform. No one wants to come out and appear the least bit skeptical, for fear of being accused of bigotry. I have also noticed, that when one of their own espouses an unpopular opinion, that they will sometimes pretend that it didn't happen. The person is a friend, so instead of denouncing them, they simply won't give them a thumbs up. But out-groupers are fair game.

The fetishization of 'marginalized persons' really really creeps me out. The emotional hyperbole. Every time I see that girl screaming at Christakis i cringe. I got the same feeling when the #blacklivesmatter folks crashed a Sanders rally and screamed/cried 'BUT MY LIFE MATTERS TOO'.

It's just so fucking emo.

However, if the oppressed person has the wrong ideology, fuck em, they are not precious glass, and can be thrown out with the trash. But if they are Muslim who rapes, hey, nps, they were forced into it by white cishet capitalist patriarchy!

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Bowie was a fine actor, though too often wasted in silly cameos. My personal favorite roles of his were Pontius Pilate and Nicolai Tesla.

But would he have made a good Biggus Dickus?

Ask Mick Jagger.

[another lurker]

Another article on Cologne. From a Christian.

The Patheos atheist channel is teh silent

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/geneveith/ ... mmigrants/

SILENT NO MORE

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... -assaults/

Only took a week.

[free thoughtpolice]

What the fuck is this about?

Okay, I've listened to (most of) this drivel so you lucky people don't have to.

It is interesting from the standpoint of tactics, though. The upshot is that Kitty Winter seems to want to die on the hill of the following logic:

Social Sciences have just the same validity as hard sciences.

Ideas such as patriarchy, 'The Wage Gap' etc are thoroughly proven by the social scientists using data.

All discussion must be within the parameters of the 'evidence', in other words moderated by a social scientist who believes in 'patriarchy' etc and will disallow all dissent as being non-evidential.

Anyone who disagrees with any of the above is a denialist akin to a creationist.

It's actually a thinly disguised way of trying to set the groundwork for a later appeal to authority. All arguments will be rejected if they don't come with the correct 'stamp of approval' from a 'political scientist'.

Funnily enough, the first person who didn't get it was poor Kevin, who kept trying to derail the logic by switching to the opposite logic, i.e. claiming that we the shitlords say "Citation Required!" in a robotic voice.

Dr. Winters is the intellectual artillery of the Laughing Witch gang, Jenny McDermott calls her a feminist doctor. :drool:
The whole thing now is that she is qualified in the science of feminism and Thunderf00t can't speak about it because it's outside his field of expertise. And he is a pseudoscientist. :ugeek:

[piginthecity]

No more Bowie. Damn. :(

One of his lesser known works was 'Chubby Little Loser', which he sang when he appeared in Extras. The chubby little loser in question was Gervais' character - but it can certainly be applied to another fat little sellout we know of, I think.

[youtube]ge7S6-Ta3yg[/youtube]

This whole thing was a masterpiece of comedy. Because Bowie kept his privacy so well and let his music do all his talking, then people could project whatever they wanted on to him. Gervais's character thought that he would get empathy/support and some fatherly advice but found out that Bowie was a completely heartless bastard who was only interested in using him for material for a song, not caring a jot about humiliating him in public.

What makes it so good is that we don't actually know for sure that Bowie was not such a bastard (though I'm sure he wasn't really of course).

[Cunning Punt]

I guess we'll never see Labyrinth 3D now.

But yeah. Shit. I won't be able to listen to any Bowie for a while now - all the songs will sound completely different from now on. Fuck.

Then re-listen to Lou Reed's Transformer, the best Bowie album he never played on. Between him and Mick Ronson, their production skills made it into something extraordinary. Comparing the highly forgettable Velvet Underground original of Andy's Chest with the camp anthemic menace of the Bowie version reminds me what a genius he was...

[youtube]Txx0IGg9-pU[/youtube]

vs

[youtube]_VV0HCTkHtc[/youtube]

Oh shit I've gone all NME. Back to work.

Yep, agreed. He was white hot in the early to mid 70's.
Also Iggy Pop's comeback album, The Idiot. A brilliant album produced and co-written by Bowie. Sorry John D, but the version of China Girl that Bowie did was a polite, mincing little ditty compared to the brooding original. I think Bowie's Lodger album was one of his low points (and Low his highest) and I think he borrowed China Girl because he ran out of material.

[John D]

I heard on the radio that this was Bowie's favorite version of Space Oddity.

[youtube]KaOC9danxNo[/youtube]

[comhcinc]

Have fun photoshop people.

http://i.imgur.com/Pxy45DG.jpg

[Cnutella]

They got right on the Bowie story with remarkable alacrity. See, they can do it, so long as the abuse happened in 197-whatever. And that the alleged abuser is now dead. And, most importantly, white.

I'm glad. I want Bowie to be ruined for the SJW's the way Melissa McEwen hopes that Star Wars is ruined for white men.

Despite most of us getting over the intransigence of our heroes in our teens, some of the more emotionally retarded among us still struggle. Hopefully this will put a smile back on the faces of Aoife and Liss:

[youtube]XHxGyJp0_5I[/youtube]

[John D]

Yep, agreed. He was white hot in the early to mid 70's.
Also Iggy Pop's comeback album, The Idiot. A brilliant album produced and co-written by Bowie. Sorry John D, but the version of China Girl that Bowie did was a polite, mincing little ditty compared to the brooding original. I think Bowie's Lodger album was one of his low points (and Low his highest) and I think he borrowed China Girl because he ran out of material.

I find that "China Girl" is on the "Let's Dance" Album (I don't know much about the Lodger album... perhaps since it wasn't that good as you claim). Indeed... the "Let's Dance" album is more "pop" in style. I think good pop is just as satisfying as brooding stuff so I get to like what I like. So... yeah... fuck you... you fucking hipster.

[John D]

And "Let's Dance" was Bowie's biggest selling album... and "China Girl" reached #2 in the UK... so yeah. It was shit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let%27s_D ... wie_album)

[KiwiInOz]

Sexist_Profiterole would make a kickass nym.

Some of the comments are great.

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Any takers?


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I have to admit I am a bit lost on the point being made by about 50% of this cartoon. The middle bit about the accumulation of individual instances is intereresting but I could really use some clarification on why the reversed situations are dismissed with the "man tears" box. Surely someone abusing a position of power is equally wrong whatever the persons gender? Is it saying that the context of repeated instances has to be considered when ascribing value? Personally I hold myself to a standard of behaviour that isn't contingent on prior knowledge of the actions of others toward a particular person. Maybe because I went to a catholic school, but I tend to think of certain issues of morality in absolute terms, I don't know. I would argue though that all the examples given are morally indefensible whether in a vacuum or in a specific context.

Secondly, why "man tears", why not just "tears"? Is there someone qualitative difference between a man crying and a woman crying that ascribes greater or lesser value to one or the other? Am I missing something?

In the last comment, someone correctly points out that it is sexist for a female boss to hit on a male. But feminists don't buy that, hence *structural* power, and as long as they can keep claiming that white cishet males have all of the structural power, then women, and minorities, will be perpetual victims no matter what they do.(unless of course they want MTF TW who look like Danielle Muscato in women's private spaces, at which point penises are no longer scary and women rape just as much if not more than white cishet shitlords)

First Dog on the Moon is normally quite incisive and cutting when he's on about politicians and the state of things. But I think that he is a couple of profiteroles short of a croquet bush on this one.

[Cnutella]

And "Let's Dance" was Bowie's biggest selling album... and "China Girl" reached #2 in the UK... so yeah. It was shit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let%27s_D ... wie_album)

Yeah, but Paul McCartney's We All Stand Together got to number 3 in 1984, and I defy you to tell me that wasn't shit by any reasonable standard.

[youtube]A0fuVoSa3dc[/youtube]

[Shatterface]

To be fair, even if he used BCE and CE, he'd still be basing his dates on someone he doesn't believe existed, because it's the same dating system as BC and AD, based on Dionyisius Exiguus' estimate of the birth of Jesus. Calling it the "Common Era" is claiming the Christian dating system is universal, when in fact there are other dating systems in use across the world that are just as valid. I submit to you therefore that BCE and CE are far more "culturally imperialist" than BC and AD. So there.

LOL. IMO, BCE & CE are PC and, FWIW, superfluous. The actual year is still derived (albeit tenuously) from JC. AFAICT, BCE & CE were first introduced by Israeli archeologists. BTW, I'm not offended by continuing the use of BC & AD.

I'm no more bothered by dating things BC than naming days or months after Norse or Roman gods. Fuck it, you've got to call them something. It's not like we can date the Big Band precisely and number all the days from then.

[John D]

And "Let's Dance" was Bowie's biggest selling album... and "China Girl" reached #2 in the UK... so yeah. It was shit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let%27s_D ... wie_album)

Yeah, but Paul McCartney's We All Stand Together got to number 3 in 1984, and I defy you to tell me that wasn't shit by any reasonable standard.

[youtube]A0fuVoSa3dc[/youtube]

I'm 54 years old. I gave up insulting other people's taste in music right around the time I got out of middle school... so yeah. I have spent the last 40+ years trusting people when they told me they liked something. But... you can Hipster me as well if you want.... and after school we can fight about it by the bike rack. You better show up or I will call you a faggot!

[Shatterface]

I heard on the radio that this was Bowie's favorite version of Space Oddity.

[youtube]KaOC9danxNo[/youtube]

If the sun exploded tomorrow and all the only trace of humanity to survive was this clip we'd still have justified our existence as a species.

[free thoughtpolice]

https://medium.com/@NoorjahanAkbar/dear ... .gj4tr9uir
I don't think we westerners should give a shit about the oppression of women in third world countries, not when women have it so bad here.

To American misogynists, I say: my oppression, as a woman of color from the global south, is not a weapon to hide your misogyny. The fact that the Taliban kill women for speaking up in Afghanistan, does not diminish your threats to kill American women who are talking about inequality in STEM. The fact that some 80 percent of Afghan women face violence at home does not make the sexist hateful murders by Elliot Roger dismissible. In fact, your reasoning is too familiar to me. You justifying the Reddit sex crime, euphemistically misnamed “the fappening,” is the same as Afghan misogynists fabricating pornographic photos of my family members to silence my activism.

[KiwiInOz]

To be fair, even if he used BCE and CE, he'd still be basing his dates on someone he doesn't believe existed, because it's the same dating system as BC and AD, based on Dionyisius Exiguus' estimate of the birth of Jesus. Calling it the "Common Era" is claiming the Christian dating system is universal, when in fact there are other dating systems in use across the world that are just as valid. I submit to you therefore that BCE and CE are far more "culturally imperialist" than BC and AD. So there.

LOL. IMO, BCE & CE are PC and, FWIW, superfluous. The actual year is still derived (albeit tenuously) from JC. AFAICT, BCE & CE were first introduced by Israeli archeologists. BTW, I'm not offended by continuing the use of BC & AD.

I'm no more bothered by dating things BC than naming days or months after Norse or Roman gods. Fuck it, you've got to call them something. It's not like we can date the Big Band precisely and number all the days from then.

Starting from the 20s then?

[youtube]l05F9d0UIPY[/youtube]

[another lurker]

The fappening is not a sex crime.

In fact, it would have been a crime if the fappening *had not* occurred!

/misogynates

[Matt Cavanaugh]

And "Let's Dance" was Bowie's biggest selling album... and "China Girl" reached #2 in the UK... so yeah. It was shit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let%27s_D ... wie_album)

I have a 12" EP with an edgy version of "Putting Out Fire (With Gasoline)" that kicks ass and bears little relationship to the Georgio Moroni synth version.

[Dave]

And "Let's Dance" was Bowie's biggest selling album... and "China Girl" reached #2 in the UK... so yeah. It was shit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let%27s_D ... wie_album)

Yeah, but Paul McCartney's We All Stand Together got to number 3 in 1984, and I defy you to tell me that wasn't shit by any reasonable standard.

[youtube]A0fuVoSa3dc[/youtube]

I'm 54 years old. I gave up insulting other people's taste in music right around the time I got out of middle school... so yeah. I have spent the last 40+ years trusting people when they told me they liked something. But... you can Hipster me as well if you want.... and after school we can fight about it by the bike rack. You better show up or I will call you a faggot!

I tend to make a distinction between entertainment and art. What is good art is just as subjective as what is good entertainment, perhaps more so, as sales figures dont factor in.

So, yeah, China Doll was great entertainment, and is one of Bowie's better remembered songs. If Cnutella wants to decide its not good art, well, we can debate the artistic merits of the various songs, but in the end, de gustibus non est disputatem.

Personally, The Laughing Gnome is my fave. :dance: :dance: :dance:

[Lsuoma]

Germany reportedly sending some migrant back to Austria: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35286640

[Dave]

Germany reportedly sending some migrant back to Austria: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35286640

Is he a paperhanger?

[Keating]

First Dog on the Moon is normally quite incisive and cutting when he's on about politicians and the state of things. But I think that he is a couple of profiteroles short of a croquet bush on this one.

Really? I tend to find it as annoying as listening to Sarah Hanson Young.

[Keating]

To be fair, even if he used BCE and CE, he'd still be basing his dates on someone he doesn't believe existed, because it's the same dating system as BC and AD, based on Dionyisius Exiguus' estimate of the birth of Jesus. Calling it the "Common Era" is claiming the Christian dating system is universal, when in fact there are other dating systems in use across the world that are just as valid. I submit to you therefore that BCE and CE are far more "culturally imperialist" than BC and AD. So there.

LOL. IMO, BCE & CE are PC and, FWIW, superfluous. The actual year is still derived (albeit tenuously) from JC. AFAICT, BCE & CE were first introduced by Israeli archeologists. BTW, I'm not offended by continuing the use of BC & AD.

I'm no more bothered by dating things BC than naming days or months after Norse or Roman gods. Fuck it, you've got to call them something. It's not like we can date the Big Band precisely and number all the days from then.

I vote we change it to BK and AK, for before and after Keating.

[comhcinc]

Germany reportedly sending some migrant back to Austria: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35286640

Honestly its a little late for that.


http://i39.tinypic.com/34ezv54.jpg

[Keating]

Actually, to bring it back to Carrier, I wouldn't be surprised if the conclusion of his book was "The son of God couldn't possibly have existed in the past; I was only born 50 years ago."

[some guy]

I have a 12" EP with an edgy version of "Putting Out Fire (With Gasoline)" that kicks ass and bears little relationship to the Georgio Moroni synth version.

That song be named "Cat People"
[youtube]n4xpdaIZyzs[/youtube]

[KiwiInOz]

First Dog on the Moon is normally quite incisive and cutting when he's on about politicians and the state of things. But I think that he is a couple of profiteroles short of a croquet bush on this one.

Really? I tend to find it as annoying as listening to Sarah Hanson Young.

Even when he is on about Blob Slooten?

[Aneris]

They have banners in English.

http://www.globalpost.com/sites/default ... k=BTYZhnKP

Pegida seems to be a pretty shady organization, and I completely understand why people would do not want them to get any kind of power, but they really have a point about the police not doing anything on New Year's Eve.

The worst part of the Cologne event was the lack of any meaningful reaction from the police. Surely someone alerted them. And they have water cannons, which they used against some Pegida demonstrations. They could have dispersed the crowd of harassers rather easily.

Why didn't they act like they did to dmeonstrators who get too close to them? Were they afraid of being accused of racism?

If Merkel doesn't want to give power to the far-right she should put some pressure on the German police not to be afraid to act against refugees or immigrants who violate the German laws.

Pegida reaches partially into the centre, but it's centre of mass is far right (by German standards) with substantive participation of Neo Nazi groups. Their success is in large part due to faux multiculturalism (there's nothing "multi" about huge groups of mostly Muslims), and the common problem that everyone wants to be welcoming and nice as long it is other people's problems. Too many politicians didn't take the fears of inhabitants seriously, especially in East Germany.

This effect is intensified as East Germans have little experience with immigration and their reactions are indeed mostly driven by prejudices, but there are also a couple of relatable reasons. Armies of unemployed people make labour cheaper or at least create a fear, which concerns people who are themselves unskilled (which also disproportionally affects people in East Germany). The asylum-seekers are also not parked in areas where rich people have their house. It's again to the detriment of idyllic-yet-remote areas. This affects elderly people who aren't particularily rich, but who have made themselves a nice home somewhere. All of this creates the setting for the Pegida and why it's attractive also to "normal" people. SJWs understand this in context of colonialism. But when it happens to people in the West, a foreign culture next door is suddenly reframed as "enrichment". Pegida was founded in Dresden and is still mostly an East German thing. But Cologne is on the other side:

http://www.lonelyplanet.com/maps/europe ... ermany.jpg

The elephant in the room are attitudes of people from Islamic cultures, where the contrast couldn't be more extreme to the locals. People tend to forget that both the extreme-conservative as well as the super-pious are almost extinct in Germany, or they are outside of the political spectrum. But this is mostly the profile of Muslims.

[dogen]

Germany reportedly sending some migrant back to Austria: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35286640

Honestly its a little late for that.


http://i39.tinypic.com/34ezv54.jpg

[feathers]

Apparently this is filling up Aoife's newsfeed, but strangely when I do a search I can't find any reports of this terrible incident, where he had sex with an underage girl. But Aoife speaks of it as an absolute certainty, although I don't remember a court case proving guilt on Bowie's part.

I thought the Oaf had left, but FTB's got another Aoife in store.

[another lurker]

Just caught a really good interview on CBC radio with a Pakistani critic of Islam:

http://www.cbc.ca/radio/the180/unheard- ... -1.3394359

She made some great points, most of which were critical of regressive leftists:

When you criticize misogyny and homophobia in Islam, how to people on the Canadian and American left typically respond to that?

They're defensive, they deny, and then they lash out and accuse me of being a bigot. I'm a woman of Pakistani origin, and I've been called a white supremacist, an imperialist, a race betrayer, a textbook racist more times than I can tell you.

Why do you think that is? Where does that reaction come from?

I hope it comes from a good place, where people are trying to protect a minority that they feel is persecuted — and it is, in a lot of ways — but in doing so they trample on the rights of minorities within that minority, like women, like the LGBT, like apostates and ex-Muslims, atheists who are called terrorists and killed for disbelieving.

She explained that she grew up in Saudi Arabia, and that she watched her mother get caned by religious police for showing a little too much ankle. And that after she has explained that this is one reason why she considers the hijab etc to be oppressive, regressive leftists will *still* accuse her of being a bigot.

Her final point was that when the left refuses to criticize Islam, that it leaves a void, a void that is filled by right wingers, who exploit anti-Muslim bigotry for their own ends.

[Cnutella]

And "Let's Dance" was Bowie's biggest selling album... and "China Girl" reached #2 in the UK... so yeah. It was shit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let%27s_D ... wie_album)

Yeah, but Paul McCartney's We All Stand Together got to number 3 in 1984, and I defy you to tell me that wasn't shit by any reasonable standard.

[youtube]A0fuVoSa3dc[/youtube]

I'm 54 years old. I gave up insulting other people's taste in music right around the time I got out of middle school... so yeah. I have spent the last 40+ years trusting people when they told me they liked something. But... you can Hipster me as well if you want.... and after school we can fight about it by the bike rack. You better show up or I will call you a faggot!

I'm not insulting other people's musical taste. I'm just saying that song was shit. Fight me irl, you big sexy.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

LOL. IMO, BCE & CE are PC and, FWIW, superfluous. The actual year is still derived (albeit tenuously) from JC. AFAICT, BCE & CE were first introduced by Israeli archeologists. BTW, I'm not offended by continuing the use of BC & AD.

I'm no more bothered by dating things BC than naming days or months after Norse or Roman gods. Fuck it, you've got to call them something. It's not like we can date the Big Band precisely and number all the days from then.

I vote we change it to BK and AK, for before and after Keating.

WFM.

[Cnutella]

So, yeah, China Doll was great entertainment, and is one of Bowie's better remembered songs. If Cnutella wants to decide its not good art, well, we can debate the artistic merits of the various songs, but in the end, de gustibus non est disputatem.

Personally, The Laughing Gnome is my fave. :dance: :dance: :dance:

You can call me a snobbish hipster if you will. I'm just saying that I preferred the B-Side track Sideways Vagina. It's quite difficult to find these days.

[Cnutella]

So, yeah, China Doll was great entertainment, and is one of Bowie's better remembered songs. If Cnutella wants to decide its not good art, well, we can debate the artistic merits of the various songs, but in the end, de gustibus non est disputatem.

Personally, The Laughing Gnome is my fave. :dance: :dance: :dance:

You can call me a snobbish hipster if you will. I'm just saying that I preferred the B-Side track Sideways Vagina. It's quite difficult to find these days.

[feathers]

Germany reportedly sending some migrant back to Austria: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35286640

Should have done that with Adolf.

[John D]

I'm not insulting other people's musical taste. I'm just saying that song was shit. Fight me irl, you big sexy.

I'll knock the fucking fedora right off your pasty knoggin Atticus! Bike racks at 3:30. Don't pussy out.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

I have a 12" EP with an edgy version of "Putting Out Fire (With Gasoline)" that kicks ass and bears little relationship to the Georgio Moroni synth version.

That song be named "Cat People"
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Not on my rare 12", it ain't, shitlord.
How dare you erase my lived experience?

:cdc:


I must've fapped to watched CAT PEOPLE about 37 times, because of Natasha Kinski that awesome soundtrack.

[Dolores Fuller]

Bowie's best song was one he gave away to Ian Hunter and Mott the Hoople, All the Young Dudes
Play it loud
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[Cnutella]

Breitbart is doing a sterling job in displaying the hypocrisy of Twitter regarding the removal of Nero's verified status for unspecified reasons while leaving other highly questionable accounts (at least in SJW terms) verified, including Mike Tyson, Bill Cosby and Oscar Pistorius.

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/01/1 ... d-twitter/

[Cnutella]

I'm not insulting other people's musical taste. I'm just saying that song was shit. Fight me irl, you big sexy.

I'll knock the fucking fedora right off your pasty knoggin Atticus! Bike racks at 3:30. Don't pussy out.

So be it. Let us struggle manfully together until satisfaction is reached.

[comhcinc]

I'm not insulting other people's musical taste. I'm just saying that song was shit. Fight me irl, you big sexy.

I'll knock the fucking fedora right off your pasty knoggin Atticus! Bike racks at 3:30. Don't pussy out.

So be it. Let us struggle manfully together until satisfaction is reached.

What that may look like

http://www.bannedinhollywood.com/wp-con ... stling.gif

[Cnutella]

OK, this demands some sort of backstory.