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I'm glad Phil found time to have a sandwich while cooling his heels.

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That was a terrific analysis, thanks Aneris!

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Ahh Tam3

"Do me now"

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From Walking Dead Cast

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dogen wrote:So I was on the train today to go and give a seminar at a university. And some fucker stole my briefcase, containing my laptop, wallet and phone. 5 months research on stellar seismology mostly down the tubes. And so it goes.
Dang. Do you have the app on your phone to track your lost or stolen phone? Not sure if that works

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dogen wrote:
Sunder wrote:
dogen wrote:So I just read this:

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/n ... ing-report

Check out the name of the guy who did the report.

[emoji38] [emoji38] [emoji38]
I presume you're unfamiliar with his book "Inside the Olympics"?

If so, I high suggest a quick Google image search.
I *am* unfamiliar. Also, I realize that I'm pretty puerile. After the loss of my laptop et al, while riding back home on the train, I reflected on this fact and decided that I should be more mature in my postings to the pit. Looking back over what I've written in the past year-and-a-half, most of it is sophomoric drivel and wink-wink jokes. I aspired to be a more thoughtful poster, raising my game to the level of the many luminaries of the pit who have greatly broadened my horizons.

A couple of beers later, and I'm back to sniggering at 'Dick Pound'.

:cdc:

But seriously, if y'all ever want to know about stars, or anything else in the universe, let me know and I'll try to put together something with a little more meat in it.
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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Whether the poopstika (eh!) existed or not is irrelevant. The important thing is that it sparked a discussion on a very serious problem. And even if he was innocent, he still can learn from the experience.

Or whatever. Same shit, different day.
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Skep tickle wrote:
Billie from Ockham wrote:If anyone cares, Melissa Click has produced a half-way decent apology and will probably keep her zero-time appointment in journalism at Mizzou.
This site says she has apologized and resigned
Good

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lulz to be found on twitter by way of the new vox code of conduct that outlaws "mansplaining"

code-of-conduct.voxmedia.com/#Unacceptable%20behaviors
Unacceptable behaviors

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Furthermore, any behavior or language which is unwelcoming—whether or not it rises to the level of harassment—is also strongly discouraged. Much exclusionary behavior takes the form of microaggressions—subtle put-downs which may be unconsciously delivered. Regardless of intent, microaggressions can have a significant negative impact on victims and have no place on our team.

There are a host of behaviors and language common on tech teams which are worth noting as specifically unwelcome: Avoid “well, actuallys”—pedantic corrections that are often insulting and unproductive; make an effort not to interrupt your colleagues while they are speaking; never respond with surprise when someone asks for help; and take care neither to patronize your colleagues nor assume complete knowledge of a topic. This last point is especially important when talking about technical topics: Many women and people of color in the tech industry have many tales of being either mansplained about a field in which they are experts, or else excluded from learning opportunities because a colleague wouldn’t make an effort to answer questions—don’t be that person. Remember that your colleagues may have expertise you are unaware of, and listen at least as much as you speak.
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Clarence wrote:I should mention there are two 'alternative' papers around here. One online is called the Baltimore Brew. The other one with a 40 year old history and some actual historical news chops (sadly, not anymore) is the Baltimore City Paper and it has gone from leftwing-progressive (with an occasional right wing columnist as variety) to full-bore SJW over the past few years to the extent that they had to be called out when one of their 'journalists' tried to claim that a picture of a hoodlum grabbing a ladies purse during the riots was a white woman attacking a black man.
it's okay -- it's snatching up.

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Phil Plait is such a coward. I replied to his Tim Hunt tweet with a very mild tweet saying that Hunt was the target of a witch hunt, and the emasculated little pussy immediately blocked me. It's the first time I have ever tweeted him, and to my complete unsurprise brave Phil Plait bravely ran away.

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dogen wrote:
Tribble wrote:
dogen wrote:No backups since July, which is when I started my 6-month sabbatical in the UK. I've been regularly committing my software to repos throughout, so that's OK; the loss is mainly things like notes, figures, log files, etc.
Drop box. Get it. Use it. You'll be happy you did.
I do use it, but only for sharing files with others. Does Dropbox do versioning? What if it goes down? What are the security implications of putting everything in Dropbox?
Well you can use it for synching your files between laptop & online. They are not the only game in town, but they are an option if you don't know who else to use.
dropbox.com/en/help/175

They keep versions for the past 30 days:
dropbox.com/help/11

Upgrade to Pro and your versions are kept for 1 year.
dropbox.com/help/113

That last option is great in case you get infected with a stealth virus that is undiscovered for a bit of time. That way you can go back before the infection and get good versions of your data/document files.

Hell, one hit from a cryptolocker variant could have lost you your work too.

Everyone else here on the board, take dogen's case as an example and a warning to protect your data. House fires, home robberies, stolen laptop, lost laptop, unruly nieces & nephews, hard drives going bad. You should just expect that you are going to have a catastrophic data failure of some sort. Because i know it has happened to all of you in the past. Protecting your data so that all you have to do is replace your computer & programs to get back working will save you a heck of a lot of time and stress.

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Gumby wrote:Phil Plait is such a coward. I replied to his Tim Hunt tweet with a very mild tweet saying that Hunt was the target of a witch hunt, and the emasculated little pussy immediately blocked me. It's the first time I have ever tweeted him, and to my complete unsurprise brave Phil Plait bravely ran away.
Don't forget...Phil Plait is the coward who thinks that Tim Hunt and you and everyone outside of his tent should be ruined if they make a joke that offends SJWs.

But when he makes a joke about transperson? He's just learnin'. He's a good ally, you see. The circumstances are totally different because you are you and Tim Hunt is Tim Hunt and he is Phil Plait, hypocrite bigger than the Sun.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronom ... unity.html
In one part of the episode, I’m talking about how Venus is really pretty when you look at it from Earth, but up close, it’s an awful place. As I spoke about Venus being pretty, we put up a cute animation of Botticelli’s famous The Birth of Venus. But then, when I say Venus up close is awful (and say, "Yikes!"), we zoom in on the drawing and it turns out Venus has my face on it.

I thought this was pretty funny, a bit of humor poking fun at me. So we OK'd it.

Well, it turns out that wasn’t so OK and funny with a lot of viewers. We got some comments that the joke was transphobic, making fun of transgender people.

That’s why my editor had texted me. I called her, and she told me what had happened. As soon as she told me, I had a forehead-slapping moment. Of course this could be seen as transphobic. In retrospect it was obvious. The good news is that the team felt the same way and had already re-edited the video to remove that part, and had re-uploaded it before I had even called.
My favorite part is the head slapping. OF COURSE a Venus with Plait's face is rank transphobia.

DUH. Because all transwomen look more like Phil Plait than Venus? I don't know. I'm not fucking crazy.

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A Missouri professor who refused to cancel an exam resigns after backlash..
Under intense pressure, Dr. Brigham has both cancelled the exam and resigned from the university, according to screenshots posted online of an email from Dr. Brigham to his students.

“The exam is cancelled. Our students will be able to take the exam at an alternate date with no loss of points,” Dr. Brigham told students. “No one will have to come to class today. And, I am resigning my position.”
http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=6971

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tina wrote:I'm pretty sure this is correct: particularly in the younger SJW's. Most 'identify' with 'causes' because their mates do, because it's cool and edgy and rebellious. In terms of religion it's like "well of course god exists, don't be silly" Or of radicalisation " Well naturally the West is to blame for everything, that's obvious, duh." Feminism, the same, racism... ditto. Unless a young person has been exceptionally well trained in critical thinking skills, I suspect it's par for the course . How all these SJW techniques and strategies have developed is, as you said earlier, fodder for several Peehaitchdees. Like feathers I would like to see evidence of deliberate marxist radicals pulling the strings, if such exists.
Ah, group consensus and pre-established biases.

Heck, humans tend to do this as it is normally more efficient to continue with the course of the group, or what your parents did, than it is to reevaluate every norm.
What toosth paste do you use? How do you sort your laundry? What do you do for entertainment? Do you cook or eat out a lot? Standard meals for preparation? Buying habits.

These indoctrinated habits tend to stick unless there is a reason to change (such as fiscal constraints, or time constraints). We just don't have the time and energy to reevaluate every single choice in our lives, so we stick to the ones that matter.

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Being a Social Justice Warrior is always such a struggle! Now that you've got rid of the evil shitlords, people shower you with hugs & money to express support, you suddenly face a new set of problems... :laughing-rollingyellow:

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The Medium article is misleading from the get-go (the bold is mine):
[T]he tale of Tim Hunt’s lunch appearance at the World Conference of Science Journalists (WCSJ 2015) in Seoul on 8 June should have been short-lived: Yet another eminent Nobel laureate said something stupid that offended much of his audience; his words were reported accurately; he resigned from a few of his numerous honorary positions, and apologised for what he said. Surely, the world then moved on?
His words were reported mostly accurately, but they were entirely divorced from their context so that readers would think he was seriously suggesting that labs should be segregated by gender. The missing context (everything he said before and after about the importance of women in science and not letting "chauvinist monsters" like him get in their way) came out later, after the public shaming, and that made two things quite clear: A) he was joking, and B) the reporters had done their job very badly.

And how did the reporters respond to these new revelations?

Some, like Connie St. Louis, doubled down and insisted that he wasn't joking, that nobody laughed, and that the room went silent—all of which, as the Medium article confirms, was proven false by eyewitness testimony, photos, and an audio recording of the last moments of the toast.

Most others, however, like Deborah Blum, simply shifted the goalposts, declaring that "just joking" is no excuse and that the joke was nevertheless sexist and made attendees uncomfortable. And you know what? There's some truth to that. It was at the very least a poorly delivered joke, and it's clear that some attendees were uncomfortable with it. I have no problem if people want to criticize him over that, or argue that the joke itself was an example of "disparagement humour," as the authors of the Medium piece put it. By all means, discuss!

But the internet didn't shame Hunt over a fucking joke. The internet shamed him because it was reported that he earnestly denigrated women in science and suggested that labs be segregated by gender. And that's the fault of Deborah Blum, Connie St. Louis, and Ivan Oransky, who apparently all agreed that it would be a good idea to leave out the minor detail that he was FUCKING JOKING. It's also the fault of everybody else in the media who uncritically ran with the sensationalist story.

So when Deborah Blum switches gears from "He meant it seriously" to "Well, okay, it was a joke, but that's no excuse," let's remember that she's not just some random third party providing commentary from the sidelines. She's one of the very people responsible for making the internet think he was being serious in the first place, which is precisely what instigated the witch hunt. Whether the joke was inappropriate is entirely beside the point, because that's not why he was publicly shamed.

Ever since they were called out on their dishonest reporting, Blum et al. have refused to apologize or even acknowledge that their fuck-up (intentional or not) led directly to horrible and unjust consequences for Tim Hunt. They and their supporters apparently think that it's perfectly fine for journalists to throw caution and integrity to the wind, as long as they feel that anyone hurt in the process deserved it anyway.

And that's what the bulk of this Medium piece is: an attempt to solidify Blum's reframing of the issue, to show that many in the audience thought the joke was sexist or inappropriate and that "it's just a joke" isn't an excuse. At least, that's what the first half of the piece is. The second half argues that he may not have been joking at all, even though lots of the witnesses quoted in the first half specifically say that it was indeed a joke gone awry. (WTF?)

I noticed some smaller things wrong with the piece (e.g., linking to this random tweet as a source). On the other hand, the authors do show that Mensch is sometimes less than reliable. Color me shocked. :bjarte:

On the whole, though, this piece is really a lot of hand-waving and straw-manning. I'm not outraged that people think his joke was inappropriate or sexist. I'm outraged because a person's reputation was ruined on a lie of omission, and instead of acknowledging the damage they've done, the fuckers responsible and their ideological allies keep tweeting and writing articles about how that's not "the real issue."

Oh, and the authors won't even acknowledge that his good name was ruined:
In the end, the parable of Tim Hunt is indeed a simple one. He said something casually sexist, stupid and inappropriate which offended many of his audience. He then confirmed he said what he was reported to have said and apologised twice. The matter should have stopped there. Instead a concerted effort to save his name — which was not disgraced, nor his reputation as a scientist jeopardized — has rewritten history. Science is about truth. As this article has shown, we have seen very little of it from Hunt’s apologists — merely evasions, half-truths, distortions, errors and outright falsehoods.
Conspicuously absent from this account is the protracted public shaming that preceded the "concerted effort to save his name."

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Gumby wrote:Phil Plait is such a coward. I replied to his Tim Hunt tweet with a very mild tweet saying that Hunt was the target of a witch hunt, and the emasculated little pussy immediately blocked me. It's the first time I have ever tweeted him, and to my complete unsurprise brave Phil Plait bravely ran away.
Buh-bye, Phil :lol: :lol:

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fuzzy wrote:A Missouri professor who refused to cancel an exam resigns after backlash..
Under intense pressure, Dr. Brigham has both cancelled the exam and resigned from the university, according to screenshots posted online of an email from Dr. Brigham to his students.

“The exam is cancelled. Our students will be able to take the exam at an alternate date with no loss of points,” Dr. Brigham told students. “No one will have to come to class today. And, I am resigning my position.”
http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=6971
American tertiary education has fucked itself to the ground. I have no sympathy.

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Ape+lust wrote:
Gumby wrote:Phil Plait is such a coward. I replied to his Tim Hunt tweet with a very mild tweet saying that Hunt was the target of a witch hunt, and the emasculated little pussy immediately blocked me. It's the first time I have ever tweeted him, and to my complete unsurprise brave Phil Plait bravely ran away.
Buh-bye, Phil :lol: :lol:

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I don't think that I've seen anyone notice that the "author" of the "essay" is Daniel Waddell, frequent Freethought Blogs commenter and sphincter licker of those bloggers.

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I don't think that I've seen anyone notice that the "author" of the "essay" is Daniel Waddell, frequent Freethought Blogs commenter and sphincter licker of those bloggers.
Does he post as Daniel Waddell?

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fuzzy wrote:A Missouri professor who refused to cancel an exam resigns after backlash..
Under intense pressure, Dr. Brigham has both cancelled the exam and resigned from the university, according to screenshots posted online of an email from Dr. Brigham to his students.

“The exam is cancelled. Our students will be able to take the exam at an alternate date with no loss of points,” Dr. Brigham told students. “No one will have to come to class today. And, I am resigning my position.”
http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=6971
You may have made the same error that I did yesterday, which is not waiting the needed 30 minutes for the story to be updated. I just read that the school is refusing to accept his resignation.

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A few years ago, I was on the campus of Columbia U. A student made a threatening remark to my face, then fled.
A university administrator witnessed it & called campus police. I said I didn't think the the student would
really commit violence & I didn't want to press charges. The admin said it wasn't up to me-- university rules
prohibited making violent threats on university property. Fair enough. I said I just wanted to collect my bicycle & leave.
The admin said they'd have to assure my safety by having a campus cop accompany me until I left campus. Fair enough.

When the campus cop arrived, the admin pointed to me and said, "Please escort this man off campus."

The cop was quite brusque with me. I can't recall if he held my arm, kept his hand on my shoulder, or his palm flat on my back...
but there was some physical contact. As soon as we were outside the building, he demanded to see my ID & said I'd be arrested if I returned to the campus.

Only then did I realize that he had interpreted "Please escort this man off campus" as a euphemism for "throw this guy outta here!",
not literally "escort" me for my protection. Then & now-- I view it as orwellian-- that police power habitually disguises itself in euphemisms. Melissa Click and PZ Meyers would gladly use police power against a political opponent, disguising it in SJW platitudes.

The other guy was arrested in class, removed in handcuffs, and quite angry at me--
unaware that the university had sought his arrest, not me.


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The virus is spreading.

Ithaca College students stage walkout, call for president's removal
http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=6972
About 1,000 students at Ithaca College (IC) staged a walkout from their classes Wednesday afternoon to protest college president Tom Rochon and numerous allegations of racist incidents on campus this semester.
The walkout was organized in response to growing discontent with the perceived inadequacy of the Rochon administration’s response to students’ numerous allegations of racist incidents on campus, concerns over student and faculty diversity, and high tuition.

Campus Reform earlier reported on these disputed incidents, one of which was a “Preps and Crooks”-themed off-campus fraternity party that upset many students due to the description of the “Crooks” theme using words like “thuggish” and “bling.” Another incident occurred during an alumni panel earlier in the semester, where several panelists used the word “savage” to describe a black female panelist after she herself used the word to describe her “savage hunger” for success.
After the protesters began to dissipate and return to classes, a group of more than 50 congregated around a bench where one student was holding a sign reading “I support Tom Rochon.”
The encircling students also said students of color feel unsafe on campus. Though when pushed on what exactly makes them feel unsafe or to point to specific incidents of crimes or physical harm on campus, they yielded no answers.

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Lsuoma wrote:
fuzzy wrote:A Missouri professor who refused to cancel an exam resigns after backlash..
Under intense pressure, Dr. Brigham has both cancelled the exam and resigned from the university, according to screenshots posted online of an email from Dr. Brigham to his students.

“The exam is cancelled. Our students will be able to take the exam at an alternate date with no loss of points,” Dr. Brigham told students. “No one will have to come to class today. And, I am resigning my position.”
http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=6971
American tertiary education has fucked itself to the ground. I have no sympathy.
Yup. College fees have swollen to epic proportions, yet somehow these clowns have gotten little pushback for derailing curriculums. And come January, everyone will have to find time to attend obligatory "diversity" training.

The same shit is going on at Ithaca College, students are trying to run the president off.

http://ithacavoice.com/2015/10/turmoil- ... hon-mount/

http://www.ithacajournal.com/story/news ... /75570208/

These are the 2 supposed catalysts for the unrest.

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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
another lurker wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
I don't care, I'm gonna do it. I am doxxing Mykeru. This man/bear love should not be kept apart:

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Just look at his ballsack, quivering with rage hot jizz.
I think that's actually Russell Brand

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Damn :nin: popping out of the cupboards.

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Shatterface wrote:
Soapy Stevens wrote:
tina wrote:One learns sooo much from Caitlyn about being a woman.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/kristinharris/c ... yu3G7MVEry
"I am SO glad to be on this team and help it along!"

There's nothing like a bit of transplaining.

I can see the point that radical feminists make that the whole trans-activism thing is about men taking over the space they thought was theirs.
There's no 'right side' on this. The radfems come across as genuinely hateful while the transwomen play to the worst brainless bimbo or shrieking harpy stereotype.
Indeed. Consider: Although in another portion of her thread or timeline others have argued that those making those rather obnoxious comments don't really qualify as feminists - had intended to broach the topic of "No True Feminist" but things had moved on since then.

Sure are a lot of rather nasty people about - and just about any side of any issue you would care to name; no wonder people turn into misanthropists.

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Skep tickle wrote:Several conservative sites are reporting that there doesn't appear to be evidence that the "poop swastika" existed. (It appears that they're the only ones asking the question.)

thefederalist.com/2015/11/10/was-the-poop-swastika-incident-at-mizzou-a-giant-hoax/

thefederalist.com/2015/11/11/meet-the-mizzou-student-responsible-for-hyping-the-poop-swastika/

90% of the article at the 1st of those 2 links is quoted below; go to the site to see/follow the many links within the article there:
There’s only one problem: no evidence of the alleged incident, in which a poop swastika on the wall of a dormitory restroom was reported, has ever been made publicly available. Did this incident occur as reported, or was it an immaculate defecation that formed the foundation of an unimaginable deception?

According to Billy Donley, the president of Mizzou’s Residence Halls Association (RHA), the poop swastika was reported at approximately 2:00 a.m. on October 24, 2015.

“On Saturday, October 24th, at 2:00am an individual came into one of the restrooms in Gateway Hall and drew a swastika on the wall with their own feces,” Donley wrote in a letter several days after the alleged incident. “This event happened while many students, including myself, were already asleep.”

Later in his letter, Donley noted that he only found out about the alleged vandalism incident “via a flyer posted on the walls” of the dorm.

Although Donley did not respond to repeated requests for comment prior to publication, The Federalist spoke with two RHA staffers while trying to get in touch with Donley. Neither had personally witnessed the poop swastika. When asked if there was any photographic evidence of the alleged incident, one staffer replied, “Not to my knowledge.”

Frankie Minor, the director of residential life at Mizzou, did not respond to repeated requests for comment on whether he personally saw the poop swastika or any photographic evidence of it.

The Federalist also attempted to contact Christian Basi, the associate director of the University of Missouri News Bureau, who previously told the Columbia Missourian on Oct. 30 that the incident had been immediately reported to Mizzou police. Basi did not respond to requests for comment prior to the publication of this article.

Calls to the University of Missouri Police Department, which responded to and investigated the alleged poop swastika incident, also failed to yield any evidence of the poopstika.

Multiple activists on Twitter pointed to this photo as proof that the incident occurred as reported, but a Google search for the same image shows that it has been floating around the Internet for nearly a year. A reddit thread from November of 2014 appears to contain the earliest publication of the photo in question, meaning that it most certainly does not constitute proof of the incident alleged to have occurred at Mizzou on October 24, 2015.

Maj. Brian Weimer, the public information officer for the Mizzou police department, told The Federalist that he also did not personally see the poop swastika that was reported to police. When asked if anyone in the police department personally witnessed the swastika, Maj. Weimer clammed up and referred all questions about the incident to the university’s custodian of public records.

The Federalist also repeatedly contacted @ConcernedStudent1950, the Twitter account representing Mizzou protesters who issued a series of demands of university administrators after the alleged poop swastika incident made headlines. The individuals running the @CS1950 account failed to produce any photographic or documentary evidence of the incident prior to publication of this article.

While a mere absence of evidence is not synonymous with evidence of absence, the complete lack of any verifiable photographic evidence of the alleged poop swastika and the lack of any named eye witnesses raises serious questions about the veracity of a racially charged incident of vandalism that eventually led to the resignation of the University of Missouri’s two top administrators.

Did the incident happen as reported, or did two university administrators resign over protests that were sparked by a hoax? And if the incident did happen as reported, a proposition for which no publicly available evidence currently exists, how did university administrators and law enforcement authorities confirm that the vandalism was driven by racial animosity, as opposed to being promulgated as a public relations stunt meant to tar the university for failing to provide an environment free of racist invective? It would not be the first time a public university fell victim to a high profile PR stunt that was later revealed to be a fabrication. Either way, students, their parents, university employees, and Missouri taxpayers deserve solid, verifiable answers based on clear evidence about what exactly transpired in that Gateway Wall bathroom in the early morning of October 24.

Under the provisions of Missouri’s broad public records laws, The Federalist has requested from the University of Missouri copies of any and all records relating to the alleged vandalism, including any police or incident reports describing the investigation of the poop swastika by law enforcement authorities, as well as any photographic records of the alleged swastika, and will make that information available if and when it is received from university officials.
One thing I can assure you is that no student cleaned off a poop swastika. So if it happened:
* There has to be at least one dorm cleaning crew person who cleaned it off themselves.
* There has to be at least one Resident Adviser who it was reported to and saw it themselves.

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CommanderTuvok wrote:The SJW entitlement crybaby nonsense virus continues abound. Remember Sandi Thom? Nope, neither do I. I just about recall her only single ("I Wish I Was a Punk Rocker") and that was SHITE. Anyway, RADIO 2 has not play-listed her latest single (she's still releasing stuff, aparently)....and she goes on a highly amusing salty sob-fest.
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It would probably be an easier sell on the country music scene.

That said, it sounds like a hell of a lot of other mass produced non-innovative canned crap. Which is exactly what she said she did. She designed to song to fit exactly for the station's demographic. It is canned. It sounds like all the other shit out there. At the very best, it is average... but even that is paying it too high of a complement.

Hell. I just listened to her "punck rocker" song. Does she even know what a punk rocker is? Flowers in her hair? If you are going to do a song about punk rock, you should at least try and hit the genre.

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free thoughtpolice wrote:
I don't think that I've seen anyone notice that the "author" of the "essay" is Daniel Waddell, frequent Freethought Blogs commenter and sphincter licker of those bloggers.
Does he post as Daniel Waddell?
Of course. Don't worry, I wouldn't dox. I don't know how to link a google search without a shitload of additional data; feel free to google "Daniel Waddell freethought blogs".

Of course, there may be two completely different Waddells. A Dan and a Daniel. One never knows. Perhaps they are identical twins who had sadists for parents.

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Service Dog wrote:A few years ago, I was on the campus of Columbia U. A student made a threatening remark to my face, then fled.
A university administrator witnessed it & called campus police. I said I didn't think the the student would
really commit violence & I didn't want to press charges. The admin said it wasn't up to me-- university rules
prohibited making violent threats on university property. Fair enough. I said I just wanted to collect my bicycle & leave.
The admin said they'd have to assure my safety by having a campus cop accompany me until I left campus. Fair enough.

When the campus cop arrived, the admin pointed to me and said, "Please escort this man off campus."

The cop was quite brusque with me. I can't recall if he held my arm, kept his hand on my shoulder, or his palm flat on my back...
but there was some physical contact. As soon as we were outside the building, he demanded to see my ID & said I'd be arrested if I returned to the campus.

Only then did I realize that he had interpreted "Please escort this man off campus" as a euphemism for "throw this guy outta here!",
not literally "escort" me for my protection. Then & now-- I view it as orwellian-- that police power habitually disguises itself in euphemisms. Melissa Click and PZ Meyers would gladly use police power against a political opponent, disguising it in SJW platitudes.

The other guy was arrested in class, removed in handcuffs, and quite angry at me--
unaware that the university had sought his arrest, not me.
That's bullshit...all of it.

But the real sin here is that you are using a pic of Zoe Quinn as an avatar.

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"Weaponizing safe spaces" - now I've heard everything. Although it is kind of amusing to see the lingo turned back on the originators.

But looks to be a couple of articles worth reading.

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At a large midwestern state university, I took an introductory film studies class. The main lecturer was a bulky, pasty, beardy grad student, with a Simpsons wristwatch & middlebrow geek tastes. I'm sure he drooled over 'graphic novels' and foreign animation.

He was a well-intentioned progressive liberal, in mushy nod-along kinda way. He wasn't leading any p.c. crusades, brandishing obscure post-modernist jargon or radical political rhetorics.

His idea of diversity was to awkwardly reference Spike Lee, whenever the overwhelmingly straight white male film viewing schedule was questioned. He once fumbled & said 'Do The Right Thing' was too expensive to project in class. So, I guess that solves that-- he couldn't afford the only non- straight white male film ever made.

There was one main black girl-- maybe she had an occasional black male cohort, or one other black girl-- who would bug out/ much like students in the Yale & Missou videos. She'd bring class to a halt telling the guy off, then storm out. The instructor would stammer & apologize & count himself lucky that her noisemaking never turned-into formal complaints or organized protest.

At least once, I declared "She's absolutely right!" and followed her out of the lecture hall, "in solidarity". Then I ate tacos in the student union, and listened to Public Enemy. Fight The Power. Slacktivism Uber Alles.

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Really? wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
I don't think that I've seen anyone notice that the "author" of the "essay" is Daniel Waddell, frequent Freethought Blogs commenter and sphincter licker of those bloggers.
Does he post as Daniel Waddell?
Of course. Don't worry, I wouldn't dox. I don't know how to link a google search without a shitload of additional data; feel free to google "Daniel Waddell freethought blogs".

Of course, there may be two completely different Waddells. A Dan and a Daniel. One never knows. Perhaps they are identical twins who had sadists for parents.
Swell, a hordelet. I didn't know, thanks for pointing it out. They should come with their own carnival barkers. Come see reality invention in progress! If you liked The Secret, you'll love these guys.

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tina wrote:One learns sooo much from Caitlyn about being a woman.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/kristinharris/c ... yu3G7MVEry
Q "What’s the hardest part for you about being a woman?"

A "The hardest part about being a woman is figuring out what to wear."
Seriously????

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HoneyWagon wrote:
tina wrote:One learns sooo much from Caitlyn about being a woman.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/kristinharris/c ... yu3G7MVEry
Q "What’s the hardest part for you about being a woman?"

A "The hardest part about being a woman is figuring out what to wear."
Seriously????
I saw that and I think Caitlyn really puts everything into perspective. Sure, some women die in honor killings. Their fathers bash in their brains as they use their last energy to reach out to him, begging for love and mercy.

But goddammit, society forced Caitlyn from learning about fashion at gunpoint until she was in her sixties.

Some women wonder how to get to school without some Muslim putting a hole in their head. Some women wonder if those Jimmy Choos go with that Stella McCartney.

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another lurker wrote:
""It’s time that white science discovered a way for trans women to bear children and lactate breast milk instead of wasting time colliding Hadrons in a big tube in Switzerland."" G.E.
Which is trans-misogynist. The implication being that biological sex actually has something to do with reproduction. It essentially states that femaleness = the ability to get pregnant. It erases trans women, who are biological females simply because they believe they are, as that is all that counts. Biological sex is a social construct.
Really hard to fathom what actually goes through the minds of those who think like that. We can, of course, define a word any way we want, but does need to be some consistency. And I have yet to see a coherent definition for either "female" or "woman" from any of the usual suspects - Melby in particular who won't even concede that "male" and "female" covers about 98% of the human population: "I refuse to answer on the grounds that it might incriminate me".

But, somewhat apropos, you might be interested in this recent post from Nature: Science and sexism: In the eye of the Twitterstorm
Social media is shaking up how scientists talk about gender issues.

another lurker wrote:And some nice pwnage by Steers here:
Steersman danah gaz • 5 days ago

'' … subjective “identity” must always trump objective reality.'

Which for all practical purposes, it does.''
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Which looks rather like the classic definition for “delusional”:
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Ta. :-) Interesting if frustrating conversation - too bad she bugged out of here without actually trying to defend her position.

In any case, welcome back. I think the last we heard of you was that a spring flood had washed out your drive-way, and that you were knee-deep in water in your basement. Hope everything resolved more or less to your satisfaction. :-)

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:I seem to have been blocked on FB by Mallorie Nasrallha because I disagreed with her stance on veterans. I didn't expect that from her. Not dramatic, just a bit disappointing.
That happens with Mallorie every veterans day or for any news cycle where people post pro-veteran or military things on FB.

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The best and brightest inter-sectional feminists happily accept trans-gendered women as 'women'. I don't believe sex reassignment is a necessary component.

If you had to determine the gender of a non reassigned trans-woman (Turing style - via a terminal) - what 5 SJ approved personal questions could you ask?

Obviously "do you identify as a man/woman, are you oppressed by men? Are you a lesbian" begging the question probes are out.

Would they really resort to socially constructed badges of oppression (pink/perfume/dress) as positive indicators? Or is there a secret I'm not in on?

This is seriously doing my head in. :doh: :doh: :think: :think:

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Really? wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
I don't think that I've seen anyone notice that the "author" of the "essay" is Daniel Waddell, frequent Freethought Blogs commenter and sphincter licker of those bloggers.
Does he post as Daniel Waddell?
Of course. Don't worry, I wouldn't dox. I don't know how to link a google search without a shitload of additional data; feel free to google "Daniel Waddell freethought blogs".

Of course, there may be two completely different Waddells. A Dan and a Daniel. One never knows. Perhaps they are identical twins who had sadists for parents.
I did a google on him. He has posts from years back, just not very prolific, and (probably) fortunately for him not as memorable as a Caine or an Anthony K. :drool:

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Some women wonder how to get to school without some Muslim putting a hole in their head. [...]
But imagine the relief they feel from the terrible burden of fashion choice as they slip on that hijab.

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Really? wrote:
HoneyWagon wrote:
tina wrote:One learns sooo much from Caitlyn about being a woman.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/kristinharris/c ... yu3G7MVEry
Q "What’s the hardest part for you about being a woman?"

A "The hardest part about being a woman is figuring out what to wear."
Seriously????
I saw that and I think Caitlyn really puts everything into perspective. Sure, some women die in honor killings. Their fathers bash in their brains as they use their last energy to reach out to him, begging for love and mercy.

But goddammit, society forced Caitlyn from learning about fashion at gunpoint until she was in her sixties.

Some women wonder how to get to school without some Muslim putting a hole in their head. Some women wonder if those Jimmy Choos go with that Stella McCartney.
:lol: I think that is why so many feminists, particularly of Benson's stripe or time, object to Jenner: he is, as Greer succintly put it, just a "ghastly parody" of a "woman", and not even of "woman" (whatever that is apart from the biological bedrock) but of a rather silly and restrictive stereotype of one.

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Ape+lust wrote:
Lsuoma wrote: American tertiary education has fucked itself to the ground. I have no sympathy.
Yup. College fees have swollen to epic proportions, yet somehow these clowns have gotten little pushback for derailing curriculums. And come January, everyone will have to find time to attend obligatory "diversity" training.

The same shit is going on at Ithaca College, students are trying to run the president off.

http://ithacavoice.com/2015/10/turmoil- ... hon-mount/

http://www.ithacajournal.com/story/news ... /75570208/

These are the 2 supposed catalysts for the unrest.

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Fucking A! Let the stupid cunts crash and burn - this is going to hurt the ivory tower badly, and I have - as I said - no sympathy.

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Same big midwestern university: there were 2 student newspapers. I wrote music reviews in the more-liberal paper, so I could get free cds. And because I read Motorbooty magazine & 'Psychotic Reactions and Carburetor Dung', so I thought I was Lester Bangs. I wrote under a punkish pseudonym: Carmen Monoxide. I thought I was clever.

This was during the 90's beef between East Coast & West Coast rappers. I reviewed a CD by a group from Compton.
I was a member of a rap group, back in NY. I questioned the mythos of Compton, pointing out that the most famous person born there was Kevin Costner. I thought it was lazy and unfunny that a long intro began with the sound of piss splashing and a dude groaning with relief.

Around that time, there was a kerfuffle about a lukewarm review of a musical performance. Maybe it was a white classical music major panning an afrocentric acapella act, like Zap Mama. Something like that. The newspaper announced a SJW policy-- that first refusal would be given to writers of the same identity-politics group as the musicians being reviewed. SJW Segregation! (And Zap Mama is from fucking Belgium.)

The newspaper came out. My Compton rap review wasn't in it. I had a feeling I had been politically-corrected. I put on rumpled torn clothes and messed up my hair, wanting to look a bit crazy & dangerous. I poured some beer on myself. I went down to the newspaper office. The little white girl music editor with fetal posture, like a question mark, said she had shown my review to a basketball sportswriter, to make sure it was racially approved by a genuine black person. She said he nixed it. I asked her to point out what was objectionable, but she said somehow it had gotten lost from the newspaper's computer network.

I went looking for the guy, to make him defend censoring me. He had brought his new pitbull puppy to the office & it fled afraid, when I came stomping their way. I demanded he explain himself. He said, "Hey, I was shocked when she highlighted your entire piece & hit delete." I was 100% sure he was telling the truth. She had cowardly blamed a black guy for her censorship, and could have easily started a fistfight between us. I told the guy she had set us up against each other. I quit the paper, never saw him again. I probably walked-out with all the free cds on her desk.

A few years later I saw her on a ny subway. She was looking for editing jobs. I worked at a big publishing house, but fuck her.

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Humour is anathema to SJWs. I thought that fact was understood from the get-go.
Indeed. And to many journalists too:

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Steersman wrote:
"Weaponizing safe spaces" - now I've heard everything. Although it is kind of amusing to see the lingo turned back on the originators.

But looks to be a couple of articles worth reading.
Part II from Popehat: https://popehat.com/2015/11/10/safe-spa ... d-part-ii/

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tina wrote:One learns sooo much from Caitlyn about being a woman.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/kristinharris/c ... yu3G7MVEry
That's what they get for appointing a doofus Hero of the Decade. Everyone, the press in particular, seems to have forgotten (s)he was regarded as an out-of-it, earnestly wholesome dipshit for decades. Bruce was sort of mediocrity made for guest starring in Love Boat episodes.

Now that she's brave Caitlyn, she's not the chump whose one Hollywood credit is a Village People movie? Hah!

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Brive1987 wrote:The best and brightest inter-sectional feminists happily accept trans-gendered women as 'women'. I don't believe sex reassignment is a necessary component.

If you had to determine the gender of a non reassigned trans-woman (Turing style - via a terminal) - what 5 SJ approved personal questions could you ask?

Obviously "do you identify as a man/woman, are you oppressed by men? Are you a lesbian" begging the question probes are out.

Would they really resort to socially constructed badges of oppression (pink/perfume/dress) as positive indicators? Or is there a secret I'm not in on?

This is seriously doing my head in. :doh: :doh: :think: :think:

1. Are you now, or have you ever been, a card-carrying member of The Patriarchy?

2. If a cis woman identical to yourself were to punch you, would she be punching Up, Down, Or Sideways?

3. If two trains on the same track, approaching each other at 35mph and 35kph, departing at 11:35pm, from Baltimore and Cleveland respectively, crashed, killing everyone onboard including you, would you die cis scum?

4. Do your pronouns match the drapes?

5. Organizing your headkin according to the Progressive Stack, who's on first?

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Do your pronouns match the drapes?
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Melody, perhaps starved of attention post-CFI, chums the waters of Twitter once again...

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tina wrote:
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: Not Marxist infiltration as in East German agitators. Marxist infiltration as in infiltration by people with an ideology inspired by Marxism. No direct evidence, but the experiences related by Pizzey certainly point to a deliberate and directed strategy carried out by people with a Marxist bent. The first feminist meeting Pizzey went to way back when even featured posters of chairman Mao. Besides, the Marxist flavour of collectivist radfem flapdoodle is fairly obvious.
Are you referring to any particular interview or writing from Erin Pizzey where she talks about this aspect?
She usually goes into this stuff in longer interviews where she relates her experiences in starting what became the womens' shelter industry, the usurpation by feminists and the denial of the truth about domestic violence. Although she was not very specific, I have heard her mention an influential feminist meeting in New York where it was agreed that feminism was going to push a Marxist ideology with the patriarchy concept replacing capitalism. I believe she has written a book or two about this stuff and the intimidation she's been subjected to.

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Waitaminute... I'm not really paying attention to this Caitlyn Jenner thing.... is the new hubbub that she said the hardest part of being a woman is deciding what to wear? And bats like Ophelia Benson are flapping-mad... because Jenner didn't say the hardest-part is something like 'not being able to get an abortion in Iraq', or whatevs?

I'm probably greatly ninja'd-- if I point-out that Jenner is being honest about what's the hardest part for a rich, famous, tv star. And, also, he's sorta saying it's the part the comes least-naturally. Which... don't tons of respected feminists say 'performing femininity' is a huge, unnatural burden for women?

Also-- there's an essay in The Cultural Studies Reader. I've probably posted from-it previously... about how Feminism requires women-- as part of "identifying as" a woman-- to "identify with" women who are less and less like themselves. So an able-bodied, college-educated white suburban US soccer mom-- is supposed to 'identify with' a legless illiterate pygmy HIV+ hermaphrodite sex slave in the Congo.

So Jenner's sjw thoughtcrime is identifying-with her own actual experience too-much, and not pretending to relate to more oppressed women.

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Malky wrote:Scott Alexander on his latest view on SJWs and the media responses,


http://slatestarcodex.com/2015/11/09/lo ... the-mouth/
It's a bit disappointing that he doesn't draw the pretty obvious conclusion as to why media aren't focusing on the truly bad aspects of the SJW culture...

Big parts of the media has been the SJW's accomplishes in many of the most toxic and vile witch hunts, has defended the SJWs from attacks, and has been helping the SJWs in their push for totalitarian legislation and policies. Oftentimes just for pure profit - SJW controversies drive clicks - but also, many journalists can themselves be called SJWs or at least be accused of fully having bought the identity politics kool-aid.

It's going to be a cold day in hell before media start criticizing the shit they themselves have pushed. Instead, they're going to focus on the easy shit, the stuff that already fits into their pre-existing narrative ("Students be crazy again!").

Also, call me cynical, but it strikes me as highly likely that a big reason as to why this story has blown up in mainstream media is because this time, the SJWs were stupid enough to attack media - and the media retaliated. It seems to me that there have been plenty of other occasions where stupid SJW college kids have been cough on camera shouting inane SJW bullshit and behaving like SJWs - but against "wrongthink" perons, not journalists - and those videos then went viral, without "serious" media bothering to write even a line about it.

I dunno, maybe one could argue that there are exonerating differences in this case, but... yeah I dunno.

Personally I don't mind so much though - ridicule is the most effective way of dealing with these people (as the Pit quite amply has demonstrated). They don't respond well to rational arguments, but social stigma and society starting to see these people are the totalitarian fuckwits that they are? That's going to put a damper on them, after all they are only as powerfull as society lets them be - and if society stop taking these people seriously, if they get showed into the same corner that creationists and Christian moralists already occupy, then their influence goes bye-bye.

I'd love to see media start really laying into the SJWs, for real, just not the trigger warnings and safe space parts, but the whole totalitarian feminism/identity politics bullshit ideology - but I'll take this... for now.

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Almost time for Christina Rad's annual December blog posting.

If FtB cut that deadwood they could also spare the time to remove Reasonable Doubts which has ended its podcast life as well as that terfist embarrassment of B&W. Actually ....

Sex Politics and Religion dropped its tent in March after the CPAC monstering. Meanwhile Zingularity coughed and died in May.

Margin of Error is a pointer for Patheos.

Since July Indelible Stamp pops something every other month.

Godlessness in Theory has gone monthly. Zinnia had 1x post in Aug, 1x in September and since then has been on holiday.

So the 31 blogs could easily be cut by 9 to 22. That would be a good start.

At least Ed had the good sense to have his blog struck from the roll call of shame.

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Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

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Post by Brive1987 »

I really must applaud PZ and the central committee on taking the bull by the horns and providing new direction and leadership for the network after the losses of the August Offensive.

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Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

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Post by Hunt »

Should have been called "Bare Shit in the Woods". Nobody ever thinks of these things (except me).

"Odd Nerdrum"? Nominative determinism anyone?

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