Brive1987 wrote:Søren Lilholt wrote:ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
Bollocks. It was all about transferring earthly thoughts, fashions, and races onto aliens. Yes, it was terribly acted and the special effects were shoddy. But the same is true for Dr Who, and in both cases the reboot was/is much better than the original in terms of storyline/arc, character progression, and of course special effects.
Original ST and DW used what they had, technologically, but that is no reason to continue spouting that they were any good. Whereas with Star Wars, Lucas was so forward-thinking that no follow up has yet come close to the originals after nearly 40 years.
Anyone who claims the new Doctor Who has better storylines than the old Doctor Who simply doesn't remember the old Doctor Who well enough. Yeah, the new series has good FX, and (trite) character arcs, but does it really have better storylines?
Does it balls.
If the new series ever shits out anything even half as powerful as a Deadly Assassin, Inferno or Kinda, let me know. Otherwise, it will continue to be a pathetic, crowd-pleasing parody of its former greatness that doesn't stand up to even cursory comparison.
:snooty:
The new-who episode Turn Left was good. As was the original Angels, the Library and the arc set in that pre-WWI school.
Midnight (the one where the Doctor is trapped in a spaceship with a mind-controlling monster) The Girl in the Fireplace (the windows on the life of Madame Pompadour) and The Girl Who Waited were also good.
Utopia, The Fires of The Unquiet Dead, Dalek, The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances, The Impossible Planet/Satan's Pit, The Eleventh Hour, The Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone, Amy's Choice, Vincent and the Doctor, The Big Bang, The Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon (not the recent episode, the one with the Silence), The Doctor's Wife and The God Complex were, if not as good as the ones we already mentioned, at least decent, entertaining TV.
The rest of the episodes before Series 7 were pretty dire, with occasional flash of decency, and utter piles of irredeemable garbage like Aliens of London/World War Three, Love and Monsters, Fear Her and pretty much every appearance of the Cybermen or the Daleks (except maybe Dalek).
Series 7 was a load of shit (Journey at the Center of the Tardis is probably much the worst episode of the entire new run, and one of the worst pieces of shit I've ever seen). The anniversary special was decent but didn't live to the hype. Series 8 was slightly better but the "recent moon bollocks" (Kill the Moon) was yet another huge stinker. I haven't seen Series 9 yet.
Bottom line is that while the new show was watchable (not "excellent", not "a masterpiece" but watchable) until the end of Series 6. I think that quality took a nosedive in Series 7 and the show still hasn't recovered yet.
You also have to notice that the general quality of TV has improved in the last few years. Shows like Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones (for all its flaws), House of Cards and others have brought some really high quality scriptwriting to television. The new Doctor Who of course pales in comparison, but I don't think that the old Doctor Who would fare any better.
[A challenge: find a fantasy movie that's better written than Game of Thrones, Tolkien adaptations included]
TV isn't
just the realm of shitty sitcoms and tedious procedural shows anymore. TV sci-fi has always suffered from lack of budget and other constraints. The best sci-fi series of the last few years was the remake of Battlestar Galactica, and it wasn't without its problems.
New Who isn't dreadful, but it's not top-notch entertaining, either. More of a mixed bag.