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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:What about discussing her documentary-making capabilities? I mean, it's not like this all looks like a weird obsession because she's cute AND open-minded about things, but it kinda is.

No?

Oh, ok then.
How we're going to fit a documentary in avatar, huh?



Anyway, here documentary credits were listed a bit higher up, but I haven't (been able to) see(n) any.

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in an avatar
here => her
stop the time.

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free thoughtpolice wrote:
Scented Nectar wrote:Here is some more Diana Boston. She publicly portrays herself as anti-racist, but she made a few videos where her true self showed itself. She memory-holed those videos long ago, but people made copies, and the internet is not forgetting.

"Racist Mancheeze aka SaelPalani aka DianaBoston Proof that a Public Radical Feminist is RACIST!"
[youtube]j7ahKLdqTHE[/youtube]
Ay Chingala! What with Caine being a rat lover and now Mancheeze being a crazy mouse lady I wonder if intersectional feminism might spread through rodent droppings. :animals-gerbil:
You may be onto something! Some sort of brain-affecting virus.

I wonder if Diana and Caine would become best friends or hate each other for being too alike in the freepissingshitting-rodent-loving dept?

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:What about discussing her documentary-making capabilities? I mean, it's not like this all looks like a weird obsession because she's cute AND open-minded about things, but it kinda is.

No?

Oh, ok then.
Of course it is. It's her shtick and I'm buying it.

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Service Dog wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: Who is this and how do I stalk her?
Documentarian Cassie Jaye.

Crucial question: does she know all the keyboard shortcuts?
Thank you. She now has her own OneNote page. :clap:

Interesting tease video.

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:What about discussing her documentary-making capabilities? I mean, it's not like this all looks like a weird obsession because she's cute AND open-minded about things, but it kinda is.
No?
Oh, ok then.
Her director credits have already been pointed out. This being the primary one most people would be aware of or might have seen.
"Daddy I do"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1323593/?ref_=nm_flmg_dr_7

Sorry, no freebee links to the flick that I could have found the last time.

She has a couple of other ones under her belt:
"Faces Overlooked"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1548236/plo ... _=tt_ov_pl

"The Right to Love" (gay marriage thing)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1571416/?ref_=nm_flmg_dr_5

Honestly, this is how you select a reasonable risk for a kickstarter.
1) Have they actually done the work before? If they haven't odds are they don't know what they are doing, and won't be able to complete the project due to either lack of knowledge & experience, lack of work ethic, or not being able to adequately determine a budget.
2) Take a look at the work they have done before. Don't expect quality to magically be better than what they have done before. They have already displayed their skill level.

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I guess as long as we are discussing it, here is the link to her kickstarter:


She is currently at $170,135.
Kick Starter wrote:STRETCH GOAL #2 -$175,000!

We did it! We reached our first stretch goal of $114,000 and we will now be able to achieve an Oscar-qualifying theatrical release that will ensure that this film can be seen by the masses!

But why stop there? What else can we do with more? The $97,000 initial goal was always the bare bones budget we needed in order to complete this film. What if we could make a professional quality film and not have to apologize for it being anything less?

If we could reach $175,000 we could raise the quality of the entire film so that it would no longer be a ‘low-budget documentary’, but a professional quality production. Reaching this goal will also open more doors for this film in that it can’t be as easily written off and ignored. Let’s go from low-quality to no apologies!

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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
Bollocks. It was all about transferring earthly thoughts, fashions, and races onto aliens. Yes, it was terribly acted and the special effects were shoddy. But the same is true for Dr Who, and in both cases the reboot was/is much better than the original in terms of storyline/arc, character progression, and of course special effects.

Original ST and DW used what they had, technologically, but that is no reason to continue spouting that they were any good. Whereas with Star Wars, Lucas was so forward-thinking that no follow up has yet come close to the originals after nearly 40 years.
Anyone who claims the new Doctor Who has better storylines than the old Doctor Who simply doesn't remember the old Doctor Who well enough. Yeah, the new series has good FX, and (trite) character arcs, but does it really have better storylines?

Does it balls.

If the new series ever shits out anything even half as powerful as a Deadly Assassin, Inferno or Kinda, let me know. Otherwise, it will continue to be a pathetic, crowd-pleasing parody of its former greatness that doesn't stand up to even cursory comparison.

:snooty:

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Søren Lilholt wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
Bollocks. It was all about transferring earthly thoughts, fashions, and races onto aliens. Yes, it was terribly acted and the special effects were shoddy. But the same is true for Dr Who, and in both cases the reboot was/is much better than the original in terms of storyline/arc, character progression, and of course special effects.

Original ST and DW used what they had, technologically, but that is no reason to continue spouting that they were any good. Whereas with Star Wars, Lucas was so forward-thinking that no follow up has yet come close to the originals after nearly 40 years.
Anyone who claims the new Doctor Who has better storylines than the old Doctor Who simply doesn't remember the old Doctor Who well enough. Yeah, the new series has good FX, and (trite) character arcs, but does it really have better storylines?

Does it balls.

If the new series ever shits out anything even half as powerful as a Deadly Assassin, Inferno or Kinda, let me know. Otherwise, it will continue to be a pathetic, crowd-pleasing parody of its former greatness that doesn't stand up to even cursory comparison.

:snooty:
The new-who episode Turn Left was good. As was the original Angels, the Library and the arc set in that pre-WWI school.

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deLurch wrote:Honestly, this is how you select a reasonable risk for a kickstarter.
1) Have they actually done the work before? If they haven't odds are they don't know what they are doing, and won't be able to complete the project due to either lack of knowledge & experience, lack of work ethic, or not being able to adequately determine a budget.
2) Take a look at the work they have done before. Don't expect quality to magically be better than what they have done before. They have already displayed their skill level.
But possibly the best advertisement is the wholesale outrage of the SJW faction about something they haven't even seen yet.

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Wasn't Watson going to write a book a while back? My notes are lacking.

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That's pretty good:


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I'm only 64 posts away from John Welsh's record.

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Suet Cardigan wrote:
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Bring on that fucking asteroid.

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Why do we still tell children not to accept lifts from strangers? Teach paedos not to molest kids!

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Brive1987 wrote:
Søren Lilholt wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
Bollocks. It was all about transferring earthly thoughts, fashions, and races onto aliens. Yes, it was terribly acted and the special effects were shoddy. But the same is true for Dr Who, and in both cases the reboot was/is much better than the original in terms of storyline/arc, character progression, and of course special effects.

Original ST and DW used what they had, technologically, but that is no reason to continue spouting that they were any good. Whereas with Star Wars, Lucas was so forward-thinking that no follow up has yet come close to the originals after nearly 40 years.
Anyone who claims the new Doctor Who has better storylines than the old Doctor Who simply doesn't remember the old Doctor Who well enough. Yeah, the new series has good FX, and (trite) character arcs, but does it really have better storylines?

Does it balls.

If the new series ever shits out anything even half as powerful as a Deadly Assassin, Inferno or Kinda, let me know. Otherwise, it will continue to be a pathetic, crowd-pleasing parody of its former greatness that doesn't stand up to even cursory comparison.

:snooty:
The new-who episode Turn Left was good. As was the original Angels, the Library and the arc set in that pre-WWI school.
There are, in general, three or four good Doctor Who stories a year, and three or four bad ones. That bollocks about the Moon last year was the worst ever. But as well as classics like Inferno, City of Death and pretty much the entire Philip Hinchcliffe era Old Who gave us dreck like Time Flight, Timelash and Arse of Inanity.

There were terrible episodes of Star Trek: TOS but mainly in the third season. ST: TNG didn't have a good episodes until Season 4, meaning there were more bad episodes in the first 3 seasons than there were episodes of any quality in TOS.

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Doctor who?

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Also, ST: TNG had writers like Harlan Ellison, Norman Spinrad, Richard Matheson, Theodore Sturgeon and Robert Bloch who had serious reputations outside the telly bubble; even the animated series had Larry Niven.

The only notable writer TNG had was David Gerrold who wrote for TOS and TAS.

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Shatterface wrote:Also, ST: TNG had writers like Harlan Ellison, Norman Spinrad, Richard Matheson, Theodore Sturgeon and Robert Bloch who had serious reputations outside the telly bubble; even the animated series had Larry Niven.

The only notable writer TNG had was David Gerrold who wrote for TOS and TAS.
Bugger:
Shatterface wrote:Also, ST: TOS had writers like Harlan Ellison, Norman Spinrad, Richard Matheson, Theodore Sturgeon and Robert Bloch who had serious reputations outside the telly bubble; even the animated series had Larry Niven.

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Last try:

Also, ST: TOS had writers like Harlan Ellison, Norman Spinrad, Richard Matheson, Theodore Sturgeon and Robert Bloch who had serious reputations outside the telly bubble; even the animated series had Larry Niven.

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Oh yeah, sorry Phil. You might know him as Docteur Qui. Il voyage dans le Tardis:

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Brive1987 wrote:
Søren Lilholt wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
Bollocks. It was all about transferring earthly thoughts, fashions, and races onto aliens. Yes, it was terribly acted and the special effects were shoddy. But the same is true for Dr Who, and in both cases the reboot was/is much better than the original in terms of storyline/arc, character progression, and of course special effects.

Original ST and DW used what they had, technologically, but that is no reason to continue spouting that they were any good. Whereas with Star Wars, Lucas was so forward-thinking that no follow up has yet come close to the originals after nearly 40 years.
Anyone who claims the new Doctor Who has better storylines than the old Doctor Who simply doesn't remember the old Doctor Who well enough. Yeah, the new series has good FX, and (trite) character arcs, but does it really have better storylines?

Does it balls.

If the new series ever shits out anything even half as powerful as a Deadly Assassin, Inferno or Kinda, let me know. Otherwise, it will continue to be a pathetic, crowd-pleasing parody of its former greatness that doesn't stand up to even cursory comparison.

:snooty:
The new-who episode Turn Left was good. As was the original Angels, the Library and the arc set in that pre-WWI school.
Midnight (the one where the Doctor is trapped in a spaceship with a mind-controlling monster) The Girl in the Fireplace (the windows on the life of Madame Pompadour) and The Girl Who Waited were also good.

Utopia, The Fires of The Unquiet Dead, Dalek, The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances, The Impossible Planet/Satan's Pit, The Eleventh Hour, The Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone, Amy's Choice, Vincent and the Doctor, The Big Bang, The Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon (not the recent episode, the one with the Silence), The Doctor's Wife and The God Complex were, if not as good as the ones we already mentioned, at least decent, entertaining TV.

The rest of the episodes before Series 7 were pretty dire, with occasional flash of decency, and utter piles of irredeemable garbage like Aliens of London/World War Three, Love and Monsters, Fear Her and pretty much every appearance of the Cybermen or the Daleks (except maybe Dalek).

Series 7 was a load of shit (Journey at the Center of the Tardis is probably much the worst episode of the entire new run, and one of the worst pieces of shit I've ever seen). The anniversary special was decent but didn't live to the hype. Series 8 was slightly better but the "recent moon bollocks" (Kill the Moon) was yet another huge stinker. I haven't seen Series 9 yet.

Bottom line is that while the new show was watchable (not "excellent", not "a masterpiece" but watchable) until the end of Series 6. I think that quality took a nosedive in Series 7 and the show still hasn't recovered yet.

You also have to notice that the general quality of TV has improved in the last few years. Shows like Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones (for all its flaws), House of Cards and others have brought some really high quality scriptwriting to television. The new Doctor Who of course pales in comparison, but I don't think that the old Doctor Who would fare any better.

[A challenge: find a fantasy movie that's better written than Game of Thrones, Tolkien adaptations included]

TV isn't just the realm of shitty sitcoms and tedious procedural shows anymore. TV sci-fi has always suffered from lack of budget and other constraints. The best sci-fi series of the last few years was the remake of Battlestar Galactica, and it wasn't without its problems.

New Who isn't dreadful, but it's not top-notch entertaining, either. More of a mixed bag.

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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
Bollocks. It was all about transferring earthly thoughts, fashions, and races onto aliens. Yes, it was terribly acted and the special effects were shoddy. But the same is true for Dr Who, and in both cases the reboot was/is much better than the original in terms of storyline/arc, character progression, and of course special effects.

Original ST and DW used what they had, technologically, but that is no reason to continue spouting that they were any good. Whereas with Star Wars, Lucas was so forward-thinking that no follow up has yet come close to the originals after nearly 40 years.
Lucas? Forward thinking?

:thud:

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Okay, I just got back up off the floor. Star Wars 'borrowed' (sometimes out right stole nearly word-for-word) from lots of sources. This includes:

Flash Gordon
Dersu Uzala
The Fighting Devil Dogs (Darth Vader)
The Phantom Empire (More Darth VAder)
The Hidden Fortress (much of the Star Wars main plot and some in the 'prequels' plus a lot of the cinematography)
Ben Hur (Pod racing)
The Searchers
Lawrence of Arabia (the 'prequels)
Lost Horizon (Yoda death scene, virtually shot-for-shot)
Asimov's Foundation series
Lord of the Rings (Moria, Gandalf at the Bridge, Obi-Wan against Darth Vader).
Arthurian mythos (Skywalker being Arthur)

Here is one of the most obvious, the Dam Busters:

[youtube]lNdb03Hw18M[/youtube]

So I don't see 'forward thinking.' I see a cobbled together re-make of 1930s serial Space Opera with updated to graphics and a plot/scenese cobbled togther from a lot of sources.

I liked it. I saw it once a month for years. I could even be in this line at The Corenet:

http://blog.sfgate.com/thebigevent/wp-c ... -front.jpg

I certainly stood in it enough. But I will never pretend that it was visionary. Or that Lukas was a good director, visionary story-teller or any some such. Especially when you factor in how many stupid, franchise destroying/denigrating choices he's made. Or that it was anything but what it was.

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Doctor Who is always going to fail if you compare it with the best shows on TV.

There's nothing in the original show that compares with Edge of Darkness or The Singing Detective so I don't see the point of comparing it with Game of Thrones or Breaking Bad: the only difference is that it's now compared with US shows.

I liked the Battlestar reboot but that's pretty much one story with a single tone running through it. I can dip into my Doctor Who collection and pick out a self-contained comedy, a Hammer style horror, a war story, a Buddhist parable, etc. depending on my mood.

Battlestar doesn't have that repeatability for me.

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Not to pick on Lucas, BTW.

The Matrix was heavily plagiarized from The Invisibles.
Alien was stolen from The Voyage of the Space Beagle
Terminator was ripped off from two Harlan Ellison stories.

And, amusingly, Star Wars has been ripped off with Eragon's Destiny.

And so it goes. Plots and devices are stolen all the time. And being a voracious reader, I run into it all the freakin' time. And it's cool as long as you're stealing the story itself. But it doesn't make your story visionary if it's a cobbled-up hash of 'homages' (as they like to call them).

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Shatterface wrote:Doctor Who is always going to fail if you compare it with the best shows on TV.

There's nothing in the original show that compares with Edge of Darkness or The Singing Detective so I don't see the point of comparing it with Game of Thrones or Breaking Bad: the only difference is that it's now compared with US shows.

I liked the Battlestar reboot but that's pretty much one story with a single tone running through it. I can dip into my Doctor Who collection and pick out a self-contained comedy, a Hammer style horror, a war story, a Buddhist parable, etc. depending on my mood.

Battlestar doesn't have that repeatability for me.
Best sci fi TV show = Red Dwarf.

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Better fantasy movie than GoT?

Depends on your definition of fantasy. If we restrict it to 'epic' or 'high' fantasy it wipes the floor with the rest.

But fantasy also includes Last Year in Marianbad, A Matter of Life and Death, Eraserhead, Brazil, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Groundhog Day, Being John Malkevich and Pan's Labirynth.

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Shatterface wrote:Doctor Who is always going to fail if you compare it with the best shows on TV.

There's nothing in the original show that compares with Edge of Darkness or The Singing Detective so I don't see the point of comparing it with Game of Thrones or Breaking Bad: the only difference is that it's now compared with US shows.

I liked the Battlestar reboot but that's pretty much one story with a single tone running through it. I can dip into my Doctor Who collection and pick out a self-contained comedy, a Hammer style horror, a war story, a Buddhist parable, etc. depending on my mood.

Battlestar doesn't have that repeatability for me.

Battlestar re-boot:

Mini-series -- Amazing
Season 1 -- Amazing
Season 2 -- Was getting the stretched feeling. Like they suddenly realized they had a hit and needed to keep the gravy train rolling
Season 3 -- Started falling apart badly as they got more into the God Bothering shit and woo.
Season 4 -- Was, for the most part, pretty bad.
Season 5 -- I only watched so I could complete the series knowing that it was the final series. The ending was entirely fucking lame.

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John D wrote:
Shatterface wrote:Doctor Who is always going to fail if you compare it with the best shows on TV.

There's nothing in the original show that compares with Edge of Darkness or The Singing Detective so I don't see the point of comparing it with Game of Thrones or Breaking Bad: the only difference is that it's now compared with US shows.

I liked the Battlestar reboot but that's pretty much one story with a single tone running through it. I can dip into my Doctor Who collection and pick out a self-contained comedy, a Hammer style horror, a war story, a Buddhist parable, etc. depending on my mood.

Battlestar doesn't have that repeatability for me.
Best sci fi TV show = Red Dwarf.
Most over-rated. It really wasn't that good. Had some nice spots, though.

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Tribble wrote:Not to pick on Lucas, BTW.

The Matrix was heavily plagiarized from The Invisibles.
Alien was stolen from The Voyage of the Space Beagle
Terminator was ripped off from two Harlan Ellison stories./quote]

In Doctor Who, The Deadly Assassin had the Matrix, Ark in Space had aliens who lay eggs in people, Day of the Daleks had time from the future attempting to change the future by assassination someone in the present.
And, amusingly, Star Wars has been ripped off with Eragon's Destiny.
Star Wars also ripped off Dune.
And so it goes. Plots and devices are stolen all the time. And being a voracious reader, I run into it all the freakin' time. And it's cool as long as you're stealing the story itself. But it doesn't make your story visionary if it's a cobbled-up hash of 'homages' (as they like to call them).
SF is basically an expanding meta-text of tropes. Robots, androids, hyperspace, time travel, etc. are essentially a common resource for SF writers that have no real-world counterparts. We take it as a given that there are aliens but we don't know that for a fact.

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True Grit (Coen's version)

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FWIW, franc reviews Coen's version. This thing was awesome in so many ways that go WHOOSH over SJW cripple fuck heads -

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1403865/reviews-765

I so love this movie. Less than Wild Bunch by a bee's dick. I'm not showering for a month. Smell my balls sisters. You will never defeat us.

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What the fuck is a red sticker you cunts?

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My opinion on what is the best form of entertainment based off of my arbitrary list is better than your opinion of what makes the best form of entertainment based off your arbitrary list.

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franc wrote:What the fuck is a red sticker you cunts?

You have not been given consent to ask that.

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franc wrote:What the fuck is a red sticker you cunts?
Nevermind. Proud now.

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comhcinc wrote:
franc wrote:What the fuck is a red sticker you cunts?
You have not been given consent to ask that.
Chew on this leather strap. Saves broken teeth bitch.

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franc wrote:
comhcinc wrote:
franc wrote:What the fuck is a red sticker you cunts?
You have not been given consent to ask that.
Chew on this leather strap. Saves broken teeth bitch.

Unimpressed by your penis.

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:What about discussing her documentary-making capabilities? I mean, it's not like this all looks like a weird obsession because she's cute AND open-minded about things, but it kinda is.

No?

Oh, ok then.
You have much better taste in whom to defend than Capt Picard.

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comhcinc wrote:
franc wrote:
comhcinc wrote:You have not been given consent to ask that.
Chew on this leather strap. Saves broken teeth bitch.
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Shatterface wrote:Better fantasy movie than GoT?

Depends on your definition of fantasy. If we restrict it to 'epic' or 'high' fantasy it wipes the floor with the rest.

But fantasy also includes Last Year in Marianbad, A Matter of Life and Death, Eraserhead, Brazil, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Groundhog Day, Being John Malkevich and Pan's Labirynth.
Yeah, I meant in the sense of "epic" or "high" fantasy, which is a specific niche actually covered by GoT. While GoT also has a hefty dose of political and family drama, it uses some tropes typical of the specific genre of "high fantasy" started largely by Tolkien's works, like a pseudo-medieval setting, the presence of magic and of certain mythical creatures (dragons, giants, ghosts or revenants of some kind, etc.)

All those movies are pretty great to absolute masterpieces, but they're different kinds of "fantasy" fiction from the "epic fantasy" genre. Many of them straddle the line between fantasy and sci-fi, or between fantasy and horror.

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comhcinc wrote:My opinion on what is the best form of entertainment based off of my arbitrary list is better than your opinion of what makes the best form of entertainment based off your arbitrary list.
I have still to see where your opinion is anymore than mere farts as a 'pit blow-in trying to hope some glitter rubs off its originators.

Why are you here airhead? Is life really that miserable?

Have you actually ever had a real opinion not from here or cable wrassling?

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Kirbmarc wrote:TV isn't just the realm of shitty sitcoms and tedious procedural shows anymore. TV sci-fi has always suffered from lack of budget and other constraints. The best sci-fi series of the last few years was the remake of Battlestar Galactica, and it wasn't without its problems.
Which is why it kills me when you get shitty script writing on SciFi shows with a good budget, such as Defiance. All that money for sets, special effects, costumes and make up, yet the script writers are shitty.
Kirbmarc wrote:New Who isn't dreadful, but it's not top-notch entertaining, either. More of a mixed bag.
I think most of the major issues with Doctor Who boils down to a single fundamental issue. It is a TV show for kids. That is how it started out. And it has never really stretched that far from its roots. Everyone sees the enormous potential of the premise. But so long as it has to keep within the range of a kids SciFi program, it will never reach it. And that is why so much of the show's faults are handwaved away with Timey-Whiney-Wibbley-Wobbley. It is because it just doesn't matter that much for their target audience.

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What goes for GoT and fantasy goes for other genres.

TV used to be film's poor relation but who needs gangster flicks after The Sopranos? Who needs crime movies post-The Wire, zombie movies post-Walking Dead, etc? TV is getting top directors like Scorsese and Soderbergh, Oscar winning actors like John Voigt and Dustin Hoffman, etc. who all appreciate having 12 hours to tell a story beats the hell out of 2 1/2.

That's partly down to bigger budgets but also to a slackening of censorship on cable. It'll be interesting to see if this freedom survives a SJW backlash.

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Shatterface wrote:TV is getting top directors like Scorsese and Soderbergh, Oscar winning actors like John Voigt and Dustin Hoffman, etc. who all appreciate having 12 hours to tell a story beats the hell out of 2 1/2.
So what do we need to do in order to convince Peter Jackson to only make TV shows from now on?

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I don't know what this red sticker thing is but if it turns up on one of my posts I'm calling the cops. :law-policered: :law-police:

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Billy The Hillbilly wrote:I don't know what this red sticker thing is but if it turns up on one of my posts I'm calling the cops. :law-policered: :law-police:
OK then
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Had a very disturbing nightmare last night....

It featured a rapey, pervy-looking bearded professor at a shitty Mid West university persistently singing some shite, sugary ballad, while stalking a much younger and BLIND student. One day, after class, while the blind student has just finished her sculpture of an octopus, tentacles and all, her pervy stalker professor makes his move, gets close behind her and her octopus sculpture, and says "HELLO, is it me you're looking for"....

...at which point the student jumps up and tells the pervert professor, "FUCK OFF, you rapist".

Woke up in a cold sweat at that stage.

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CommanderTuvok wrote:Had a very disturbing nightmare last night....

It featured a rapey, pervy-looking bearded professor at a shitty Mid West university persistently singing some shite, sugary ballad, while stalking a much younger and BLIND student. One day, after class, while the blind student has just finished her sculpture of an octopus, tentacles and all, her pervy stalker professor makes his move, gets close behind her and her octopus sculpture, and says "HELLO, is it me you're looking for"....

...at which point the student jumps up and tells the pervert professor, "FUCK OFF, you rapist".

Woke up in a cold sweat at that stage.
If you listen to Lionel Richie songs before going to bed, you deserve the dreams that you get.

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Shatterface wrote:What goes for GoT and fantasy goes for other genres.

TV used to be film's poor relation but who needs gangster flicks after The Sopranos? Who needs crime movies post-The Wire, zombie movies post-Walking Dead, etc? TV is getting top directors like Scorsese and Soderbergh, Oscar winning actors like John Voigt and Dustin Hoffman, etc. who all appreciate having 12 hours to tell a story beats the hell out of 2 1/2.

That's partly down to bigger budgets but also to a slackening of censorship on cable. It'll be interesting to see if this freedom survives a SJW backlash.
Hopefully yes. Those shows attract a large audience. A large audience means more money from ads, and TV execs love money. SJW boycotts are, for now, largely ineffectual: many of them hate GoT and all of its rapes, but still watch it. Also while many on the left are SJWs, most people aren't SJWs.

Old censorship systems, like the Hays code, were caused by widespread idiotic moral panics that largely resemble the SJW campaign, but the support for those moral panics was very widespread in many sectors of society: churches, all political parties, civic associations and the "respectable people" at large.

SJWs are strong in some places, like university campuses, but not as strong in others, like the free market or advertising. They're not strong enough to set up an institution for official censorship (at least not for now).

The biggest damage they can create is self-censorship. Some people in the movie industry are either SJW-friendly (Joss Whedon) or afraid to upset the shrieking hordes of the Tumblrinas and may deliberately make their products tamer to appease to them.

But the way I see it there's already a lot of backlash against SJWs. The excesses of some rabid trans activists have upset even most other SJ-friendly nerds. Anita Sarkeesian is worshiped by more than a few of them but her Victorian squeamishness for violence and sex is alienating some of her audience (especially among the LGBT community). Most people who like video games think that Sarky and Mac are overreacting to some extent. And video game sales haven't suffered because of Anita's anathemas.

In a free market buyers decide what works and what doesn't. Anita-friendly video games would be incredibly boring and would gather dust on the shelves. That's why she understood that explicit censorship, or even a clear set of guidelines, would be counter-productive. Her goals isn't to censor video games, but to rant about them for money.

Unlike Hays and his cronies, who were genuine fun-hating fundies with actual jobs, Anita needs those sexist games to make a livelihood as a shitty e-begging "pop culture critic".

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Shatterface wrote:

Why do we still tell children not to accept lifts from strangers?
They're also telling women not to accept strangers from lifts.

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x_?_x wrote:
HoneyWagon wrote:I can't remember if I saw this here or elsewhere.
But it fascinates me.
I am sure it is their version of a joke...but I know some think it would be reasonable.

Holy shit.

I have no words, but feel obliged to remark on this tweet.

Holy shit.
It's become painfully clear that SJWs are all mentally unstable people, whose real goal is to start a revolution to force the World to conform to their peculiar mental instability. You might wonder how they can form into groups and movements, seeing as their peculiarities would inevitably clash as they try to force the World into incompatible directions. That they can and do form groups and movements is due to the fact that SJWs actually achieve little or nothing, and are most often content with whining and crying and #footstomping and holdmybreathtilimblueintheface.tumblr.com

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franc wrote:I have still to see where your opinion is anymore than mere farts as a 'pit blow-in trying to hope some glitter rubs off its originators.
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franc wrote:Why are you here airhead?
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franc wrote:Is life really that miserable?
franc wrote:Have you actually ever had a real opinion not from here or cable wrassling?


Like me OR not. I don't care.

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comhcinc wrote:"haters gonna hate"
And morons launch multimedia bombs.

The 'tardbook generation. This is how the west gurgles and dies.

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franc wrote:
comhcinc wrote:"haters gonna hate"
And morons launch multimedia bombs.

The 'tardbook generation. This is how the west gurgles and dies.
And I'd bet a testicle you did all that from a Mac.

Civilisation is over.

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franc wrote:
franc wrote:
comhcinc wrote:"haters gonna hate"
And morons launch multimedia bombs.

The 'tardbook generation. This is how the west gurgles and dies.
And I'd bet a testicle you did all that from a Mac.

Civilisation is over.


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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:What about discussing her documentary-making capabilities? I mean, it's not like this all looks like a weird obsession because she's cute AND open-minded about things, but it kinda is.

No?

Oh, ok then.
Could someone please pitsplain' this to Phil by posting a pic of Jenneke?

But seriously: I watched Jaye's DADDY, I DO and found it excellent -- even-handed & non-preachy as a true documentary should be; good editing; great story arc. And she has won awards at a level commensurate with films of this nature. Reviews by professional critics have been uniformly glowing.

The fact that she is INSANELY cute is most def a bonus (and surely makes her especially reviled by the Amanda Marcottes and Lindy Wests of the world).

What's most amusing is how the SJWs react to this 'traitor' to the Revolution. When she was anti-religion and pro-gay parenting, Jaye was so smart and so right in their eyes. Now that she's rejecting radical feminism, they need to paint her as some air-headed naif (note the disparaging female stereotype employed), susceptible to the dulcet lies of that Svengali, Paul Elam.

Note also how the SJW's main reaction isn't: 'she's wrong', rather: 'how dare she? Someone stop her!'

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Brive1987 wrote:Wasn't Watson going to write a book a while back? My notes are lacking.
She was ninja'd by Hunter S. Thompson.

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Kirbmarc wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
Søren Lilholt wrote: Anyone who claims the new Doctor Who has better storylines than the old Doctor Who simply doesn't remember the old Doctor Who well enough. Yeah, the new series has good FX, and (trite) character arcs, but does it really have better storylines?

Does it balls.

If the new series ever shits out anything even half as powerful as a Deadly Assassin, Inferno or Kinda, let me know. Otherwise, it will continue to be a pathetic, crowd-pleasing parody of its former greatness that doesn't stand up to even cursory comparison.

:snooty:
The new-who episode Turn Left was good. As was the original Angels, the Library and the arc set in that pre-WWI school.
Midnight (the one where the Doctor is trapped in a spaceship with a mind-controlling monster) The Girl in the Fireplace (the windows on the life of Madame Pompadour) and The Girl Who Waited were also good.

Utopia, The Fires of The Unquiet Dead, Dalek, The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances, The Impossible Planet/Satan's Pit, The Eleventh Hour, The Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone, Amy's Choice, Vincent and the Doctor, The Big Bang, The Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon (not the recent episode, the one with the Silence), The Doctor's Wife and The God Complex were, if not as good as the ones we already mentioned, at least decent, entertaining TV.

The rest of the episodes before Series 7 were pretty dire, with occasional flash of decency, and utter piles of irredeemable garbage like Aliens of London/World War Three, Love and Monsters, Fear Her and pretty much every appearance of the Cybermen or the Daleks (except maybe Dalek).

Series 7 was a load of shit (Journey at the Center of the Tardis is probably much the worst episode of the entire new run, and one of the worst pieces of shit I've ever seen). The anniversary special was decent but didn't live to the hype. Series 8 was slightly better but the "recent moon bollocks" (Kill the Moon) was yet another huge stinker. I haven't seen Series 9 yet.

Bottom line is that while the new show was watchable (not "excellent", not "a masterpiece" but watchable) until the end of Series 6. I think that quality took a nosedive in Series 7 and the show still hasn't recovered yet.

You also have to notice that the general quality of TV has improved in the last few years. Shows like Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones (for all its flaws), House of Cards and others have brought some really high quality scriptwriting to television. The new Doctor Who of course pales in comparison, but I don't think that the old Doctor Who would fare any better.

[A challenge: find a fantasy movie that's better written than Game of Thrones, Tolkien adaptations included]

TV isn't just the realm of shitty sitcoms and tedious procedural shows anymore. TV sci-fi has always suffered from lack of budget and other constraints. The best sci-fi series of the last few years was the remake of Battlestar Galactica, and it wasn't without its problems.

New Who isn't dreadful, but it's not top-notch entertaining, either. More of a mixed bag.
Roughly sums up my position as well.

So much potential. then they have mermaids or snowmen or something retarded, coasting off banter and cgi.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
What's most amusing is how the SJWs react to this 'traitor' to the Revolution. When she was anti-religion and pro-gay parenting, Jaye was so smart and so right in their eyes. Now that she's rejecting radical feminism, they need to paint her as some air-headed naif (note the disparaging female stereotype employed), susceptible to the dulcet lies of that Svengali, Paul Elam.

Note also how the SJW's main reaction isn't: 'she's wrong', rather: 'how dare she? Someone stop her!'
SJWs are the worst kind of racist, sexist, homophobe bigots against the people who belong the minorities they claim to protect but who don't agree to all of their dogmas.

This isn't surprising. A successful, effective feminist/atheist/LGBT rights activist who proposes genuinely interesting ideas, interacts with the public at large and accepts criticism is their worst nightmare, because this person shows the SJWs what they could achieve if they stopped wallowing in self pity and trying to shame and guilt others into worshipping them.

People like Melissa McEwan or Amanda Marcotte don't want to change society, rationally and gradually, towards a better end. They want to keep society exactly as it is, but have the right to rant and behave horribly because they're "oppressed".

Someone who overcomes some struggles without demanding to be praised to no end and handles criticism with grace destroys their narrative of perpetual victimhood. It shows the general public that maybe, just maybe, some women who complain about "oppression" don't have it hard because they're women but because they're lazy, untalented whiners.

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comhcinc wrote:"haters gonna hate"
And morons launch multimedia bombs.

The 'tardbook generation. This is how the west gurgles and dies.
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