Nerds. Nerds EVERYWHERE...

[Opyt]

I notice Myers has wrangled himself onto a panel at the upcoming International Humanist Conference in Oxford.
http://whc2014.org.uk/parallel-sessions ... g-in-noise

But the topic?

Drowning in noise: how accommodating nonsense poisons our discourse
PZ Myers, David Silverman and Sara Passmore


A commitment to freedom of belief and freedom of expression means, to some people, that we should be accommodating of others. After all, their have their right to their beliefs, don’t they? But do they have that right to the extent of not having their views challenged. Is this right? Is there a risk that the language of freedom of belief can be used to protect some specific beliefs from criticism? This is a vast topic but our speakers will address two aspects of it.

David Silverman will talk about what he views as ‘political correctness’ and how compliance with social pressure to respect religion drives undue religious influence in society and ultimately leads to laws that reflect theocratic values in the US and elsewhere.

PZ Myers will talk about the misuse of science. Science is a well-respected enterprise and the public generally regards scientific evidence as the gold standard for good information, but now we face another problem: the appropriation of the mantle of science by charlatans and apologists for nonsense. Our appreciation of good information is being undermined by the 24/7 news cycle, by promotion of fluff and sensationalism by web-based sources, and by marginal cranks whose sense of entitlement allows them to demand greater representation in the name of ‘tolerance’. PZ Myers will discuss some of the excesses of this process and make some suggestions about how we can counter it.

PZ Myers describes himself as “a godless liberal biologist”. He is associate professor of biology at the University of Minnesota Morris, currently working with zebrafish in the field of evolutionary developmental biology. He is an outspoken critic of creationism and intelligent design (for which he has “nothing but contempt”, saying that it is “fundamentally dishonest”). He is founder and co-author of the Pharyngula science blog which in 2006 was listed by the journal Nature as the top-ranked blog by a scientist. He was the American Humanist Association’s 2009 Humanist of the Year and won IHEU’s International Humanist Award in 2011. His book The Happy Atheist was published in 2013.

David Silverman is President of American Atheists and organised the 2012 Reason Rally. He is the first atheist to appear as a regular panellist on American television to present the atheist perspective and has appeared on most major news programs on CNN, NPR, Fox and other networks.

Sara Passmore is the British Humanist Association’s Head of Education and Promotion.

Made all the more amusing by the only woman of the trio (pretty sure PZ and Silverman identify as male) lacking a "talking point". I wonder if the event organizers realize the difference between "scientist" and "educator". It does trigger curiosity in regards to what he's up to with those Zebrafish now though. There is a difference between intolerance and criticism, I'd venture that PZ's brand of "criticism" is more in line with "intolerance", while the people participating in a religion see all criticism as intolerance (whoa parallel of parallels to the FfTB cult and Victimhood Feminists).

[Opyt]

I tried to post a fun comment, but went into insta-moderation.

I think I've been shadowbanned again. *sadface*

I can probably post it for you, they don't shadowban people that haven't registered, do they?

[Hunt]

Depending on what else SpecialEd Snowden digs up, it might end up being a mud wrestle between PZ and Silverman.

[Kirbmarc]

I'm glad that the Pit is getting so much into parody poem.

[Dick Strawkins]

http://news.yahoo.com/2-arrested-20-dea ... 43582.html

Someone tell Commissioner Gordon to put up the Avi signal.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-28076572

Actually this may indeed be something that Avi can help with - the disaster has occurred in Chennai, the Indian city where Avicenna is based.

[Easy J]

It feels like common sense is winning, doesn't it? Every month that goes by the SJ brigade poison themselves a little more.

It feels like a general awareness of SJWism as a phenomenon is starting to form (although my perspective is badly skewed). Its a product that strongly appeals to a certain sort of unhealthy psychology & those types make poor faces for any idea or agenda. The more attention they get, the more people won't like what they see.

A lot of people seem to have an intuitive antennae for unhealthy personalities even if they can't follow the issues. Some subconscious intuition just screams "Wrong! Broken! Unhealthy!". I noticed how the Suey Park story seemed to sort of quietly feature her histrionics as much as the issue she was pushing. Its a bit of a non-sequitor, but these screwy types tend to discredit their ideas a bit by the association. And the stuff is too easy to parody or discredit by applying their concepts in ways they never intended.

These folks don't seem to realise how they come across to those outside of their in-group. They're like Scientology, assuming that if only their cult could become more visible it would win everyone over. Their woo is only suited to a small, inbred social enviornment & doesn't play well to a larger, more general audience. They win when they get involved in various unconnected issues but will lose when a whole group or scene starts to see the pattern & connects it to the ideology.

I watched feminism's attempt to impose itself on the atheist/skeptic community & was shocked at how fast the pushback went from a weak, tame generalised whine to informed, well-crafted critiques of feminism itself. A lot of people who were generally sympathetic to it before are now much more aware of it. If SJWism keeps using the same playbook elsewhere the same thing is bound to happen sooner or later.

I'm not sure how much, but I suspect that the general public's attitude toward political correctness works against it too. A lot of the general public associate certain types of things with the pattern of "political correctness". So they may already be apt to see an SJW issue as part of a pattern they don't like.

[James Caruthers]

I tried to post a fun comment, but went into insta-moderation.

I think I've been shadowbanned again. *sadface*

I can probably post it for you, they don't shadowban people that haven't registered, do they?

Post as "Holy Imam" or "True Muslima" and tell Taslima how important it is that Muslims only fuck bitches after Ramadan.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/taslima/201 ... ent-738726

Your own words, ghost dog writer. I would never try to oppress your trans-writerkin status. :snooty:

[James Caruthers]

I think the ability to change your posting name on every post has great potential for hilarity.

Sadly, anon comments are either all on auto-moderate or they have my info on instaban.

[Tribble]

[youtube]x9_MVPq1SJY[/youtube]

Anyone besides me notice the 'shirt thing?' That was a great little dig at Ms Plaid.

[James Caruthers]

I'm not even talking about trolling. If these SJWs had a sense of humor, they'd be doing it themselves, to each other. Peezus does a post about christians and then "Jesus" pops in to disagree, or Zvanity calls Dawkins a dickhead and then "Dawkins" shows up in the comments.

Come on, people! It's not that hard to get a wee chuckle out of your audience!

[Southern]

There's some fine, fine idiocy on Zvan's Dawkins thread:

cethis
June 28, 2014 at 2:44 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
Why only three? With our technology we should be able put a variety of works on a DVD that can be put on a spaceship. (Which is what his original tweet was about.) Heck, even the Voyager ships were able to put more information on their discs than what Dawkins is mussing about.

Yeah, but DVDs are capable of carrying a great deal more info than the equivalent of 140 ASCII characters, dummy.

kellym
June 28, 2014 at 2:45 pm (UTC -5) Link to this comment
It took me a while to realize that Dawkins, and his friend, James Randi, are slymepitters. In that, they fully support they goals, and every act of harassment and misogyny, of the slime. The evidence is overwhelming, though I tried to deny it for years, especially for Randi, who I genuinely used to admire. I’m grateful that I learned of his true lack of integrity while he’s still alive. That’s the only “good” the slime has ever done. That and keeping me from wasting my time and money on other atheist organizations they’ve similarly helped expose.

And a hearty fuck off to you too Randi!

OHMYGAWD!!! I'm haning with famous atheists and skeptics! Mommy will be so proud!

So, which one of you damn fuckers is Dawkins, and which one is Randy? Doxx yourself, you silly white Nazis!

[Opyt]

[youtube]x9_MVPq1SJY[/youtube]

Anyone besides me notice the 'shirt thing?' That was a great little dig at Ms Plaid.

I noticed it, but only during the 30 minutes spent "putting makeup on him".

[Opyt]

James:
It's your post not mine, I have so little experience with Muslims that I don't consider it experience. The only one that I know beyond a reasonable doubt was my 7th & 8th grade Social Studies teacher that hated my guts for sleeping through the class and still acing the tests. It made for an interesting two years in junior high. I don't even know that the Farsi speaking locals in Afghanistan were necessarily Muslim, as religion didn't come up. They taught me words like "shitter" and "toilet paper" in Farsi, which I managed to forget in the past 6-7 years.

I don't actively engage with religious types. The ones I do wind up engaging with, I choose not to engage with their choice of religion. Part of that tolerance thing that PZ and Silverman are sharing their personal values on apparently. Somehow I don't think I'm doing it right by their standards.

[Opyt]

James:
Or fuck it, post it here. They'll wind up reading it anyways, and it won't get deleted here haha.

[Tribble]

James:
Look at the bright side, the ones pushing for Fat Acceptance will face the cruelty of "Survival of the Fittest". When they die young from all the heart problems that go with it, they'll be proving to the world that while the mouth was shouting "NO" the brain was adding "more food please!".

The problem with many defects is they don't kill you until after you've gone through your peak reproductive years.

However, whether fat women like it or not, a man's primary judgement in the initial dating/attractiveness dance is fitness and fat women really, really pay the price there. And considering there are considerably more eligible women than men in the dating pool at one time that's a problem for fat women.

For every 100 unmarried women there are 88 unmarried men. -U.S. Census Bureau. “America’s Families and Living Arrangements: 2010″

I don't think a rocket scientist to figure it out -- being fat, and therefore self-selected into the least desirable category, just may end your reproductive future. And I think a lot of these people being the fat shaming have that issue. That is, they simply get a date beyond the very small percentage of 'chubby chaser' guys.

[bhoytony]

[youtube]x9_MVPq1SJY[/youtube]

Anyone besides me notice the 'shirt thing?' That was a great little dig at Ms Plaid.

Only everybody who reads his tweets. I can even tell you how much he spent on four plaid shirts - $60. He also mentioned he considered hoop earrings and got several comments on it, so I don't think the photoshop was quite as hilarious as a certain somebody thought it was.

[Tribble]

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 163750.htm

Debunks Sarkeesian and other video game moralizers.

That study's findings do not fit the narrative, so it cannot be allowed to stand. I'm sure you understand. It's for the best.

I put the link to that in Thunderfoot's video. I wonder if he'll see it.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Go. Do. Something. Else.

Next time, try not calling 99.7% of the world "scum" and telling them to die.

[bhoytony]

HOLY FUCKING WOW. Where do you find these?

He was recently on Doug Stanhope's podcast.

http://stanhope.libsyn.com/episode-26-jim-goad

Class.
His blog is pretty good. Reminds me a bit of Maddox.

You do realise that you will be hung from the nearest lamp post for that comment.

http://thoughtcatalog.com/parker-marie- ... -jim-goad/

[Tribble]

That is damn funny.

[Opyt]

Class.
His blog is pretty good. Reminds me a bit of Maddox.

You do realise that you will be hung from the nearest lamp post for that comment.

http://thoughtcatalog.com/parker-marie- ... -jim-goad/

Date of that article: September 2013
Date of most recent article? March 2014. :liar: :naughty:

[Opyt]

Go. Do. Something. Else.

Next time, try not calling 99.7% of the world "scum" and telling them to die.

Matt: you read it wrong, I did too the first couple of times I saw it.

"Guys, I've been dealing practically non-stop trolling, harassment, abuse, hostility and dehumanization for the past two weeks."
which could be read as "dealing out", or "dishing out"

What I read the first couple of times:
"Guys, I've been dealing (with) practically non-stop trolling, harassment, abuse, hostility and dehumanization for the past two weeks."

#YourSlipIsShowing fits in nicely, and is quite appropriate.

[bhoytony]

Class.
His blog is pretty good. Reminds me a bit of Maddox.

You do realise that you will be hung from the nearest lamp post for that comment.

http://thoughtcatalog.com/parker-marie- ... -jim-goad/

Date of that article: September 2013
Date of most recent article? March 2014. :liar: :naughty:

I'm not sure what your point is. Do you think the SJW's have changed their opinion of him since 2013 and consider him a solid citizen now? I think his prison sentence for beating a woman might still slightly bias their view of him.

[debaser71]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill ... r-science/

This seems really ethically questionable.

Of course it's "ethically questionable". But it's nothing new at the same time. It's just marketing research, which although they didn't openly state to the people they were "testing", they were conducting their own market research.
It's also a significant indicator of the confirmation bias of the Facebook research "goal". They wanted to see if negative posts would effect people negatively and positive posts effected them in a positive manner, which makes me wonder if they really will/have follow(ed) through on the idea of limiting the "negatives" to encourage generating more data for them via additional posting.

Social science is soft and barely a science at all. Toss in people's facebook status updates and other potential nonsense and what do you get? Shit. People need to stop pretending that what goes on on facebook has anything to do with people's actual lives. I think facebook should do an experiment where they shut off facebook for a month and see what happens to all those addicted ladies.

[ReneeHendricks]

So, if you don't agree with Natalie Reed's "Approved List of What Poets/Musicians/Writers/etal You Can Like", you're either a liar or and uneducated and uncultured person (gotta read from bottom to top):

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[another lurker]

So, if you don't agree with Natalie Reed's "Approved List of What Poets/Musicians/Writers/etal You Can Like", you're either a liar or and uneducated and uncultured person (gotta read from bottom to top):

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" Also, like" (in the last panel)

Sounds pretty "uncultured" to me!

[bhoytony]

So, if you don't agree with Natalie Reed's "Approved List of What Poets/Musicians/Writers/etal You Can Like", you're either a liar or and uneducated and uncultured person (gotta read from bottom to top):

2014-06-29_0731.png

She's right though. When I want people to think I'm cultured and educated I always say my favourite author is Stephen King. Works every time.

[Tribble]

Mother Charged With Fatal Poisoning of 5-Year-Old Boy: Lacey Spears Is Accused of Intentionally Giving Her Son High Levels of Sodium
http://tinyurl.com/mxjtl9e

So this woman spent about five years torturing her son while sucking down all kinds of accolades, on Facebook and other social media, for being a great mom with a terrible burden. Which, of course, she wasn't.

Now as an adult, I find the in-depth story ( http://tinyurl.com/mcy7e6k ) to be horrifying and is the kind of story that, being older, wiser and sucked in by a Borderline, rings my alarm bells if I hear/read about it because in some respects it's 'too good' (ie unusal) to be true. BTW, I'm not saying she's borderline, I think the assertion of Munchausen by Proxy makes a ton more sense. So, to me, this a crazy person doing crazy person things.

Which brings it back to Rodgers in that a crazy person does crazy things. Yet we have people who can't accept someone like Rodgers is crazy and did crazy things because of being crazy. That anything he did was just whatever his crazy latched onto rather than some societal illness. And I can accept that for this woman, as well.

But I wonder what the SJWs would make of this if I put it in 'YesAllWomen." I'd hate to poison my twitter account because it's work related. But some part of me wants to point out that crazy is crazy and you really can't blame an entire gender, or society, for the crazy acts of a crazy person because to do so is irrational. Which, to me, is one of the ultimate failures of the Social Justice Warriors.

Not that they don't have some valid points. But that they, in their irrationality, take minor issues that contain valid points to absurd levels. I think you'd have to be a complete fuckwit to think that one crazy woman represents all of society and women. Yet that is the 'virtual necklacing' men face because of Rodgers.

http://media.brainz.org/uploads/2009/10/Necklacing.jpg

Commonly practiced in South Africa, Necklacing is unfortunately still quite common today. Necklacing consists of a rubber tire, filled with gasoline, being forced around the victim's chest and arms, and then being set on fire. Necklacing essentially causes the body to be turned into a melted mess, which is why it comes in at number 10 on our list.

Anyway, I doubt this cause will be taken up by the SJWs unless they're able to, somehow, blame white men for it. Inconvenient facts that women and men are more alike in 'bad behaviors' than different just doesn't play well with their "Women Are Wonderful, but Victims" world view.

[Jan Steen]

PZ Myers describes himself as “a godless liberal biologist”. He is associate professor of biology at the University of Minnesota Morris, currently working with zebrafish in the field of evolutionary developmental biology.

More like: currently working with fish bought in the local pet shop for some small-time student project. Hasn't published a peer reviewed scientific paper for over a decade. Still manages to get invited as the token scientist to a Humanist conference in Oxford because those humanists are money-squandering idiots who don't do their homework.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

http://31.media.tumblr.com/3b19b6d6f5cb ... 1_1280.png

These narcissistic fucks seem to think clothing manufacturers exist to serve them, rather than to make a profit. The market for plus-size exercise apparel is, unsurprisingly, miniscule. Not worth the investment. While we're at it, software companies should be required by law to always release a mac OS version of every title.


http://31.media.tumblr.com/84cd66f5df09 ... o1_500.png

I have a 240 lb weight limit for riders, mandated by my liability insurance. Never needed to, but I'd have no hesitation pulling out the bathroom scale I keep in the tack room.

Once had a 300 lb woman in her late 40s take lessons. We told her they'd be ground lessons only until she lost sufficient weight. She leased a horse from us to play with for a while until she found another trainer who'd let her ride.

Also had a 275 lb, 23 yo student with her own draft horse. She rode well, but her Easter ham thighs prevented her from finding the proper position in the saddle. Held her hands too high, because her gut was in the way. Could not execute a one-rein halt for the same reason. And she was in no condition to handle her 1 ton behemoth on the ground. Plus, the bigger they are, the harder they fall.

Getting a draft horse so you can ride while morbidly obese is not a viable solution, yet it's common. It's not just rider:horse weight ratio. For the horse to carry you without excess strain, you must be a quiet, balanced rider. Most of the "big, beautiful riders" I've encountered are simply not athletic enough to be adequate riders. Even that young gal was easy to unseat, as I demonstrated to her once in a lesson (almost -- I just caused her to lose her balance & flail about.) My underwriter is understandably concerned about the rider injuries. I pity the horses.

I really think the fat acceptance movement has great potential to cause harm, reduce quality of life and literally take years off of the lives of impressionable young people.

QFT. Fucking madness.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

i don't know what so difficult with his tweets. He had this grim-romantic idea about the earth being swallowed by a swelling sun and wondered aloud what would be left of us, as a kind of tombstone engraving how humanity was. ....
<snip>
We aren't very charitable, yet it makes it rather worse: they don't show a shred of trying to see where someone is coming from; not a single attempt where they try to understand what was meant, what he tweeted or just even considered the medium. It's just “the pattern” as Michael Nugent called it, and when Richard Dawkins defends or just clarifies, they're moving the goal post with complaining about him somehow didn't addressing heir individual issues.

Indeed - seems that many of them react according to preprogrammed dogma rather than giving any critical thought to what is presented - formulaic in the extreme, the classic Orwellian "Four legs good, two legs bad".

Dawkins could tweet "Went for a lovely stroll today" and the SJWs would find a way to take offense. He's learned how to troll them, and it's great!

[bhoytony]

Dawkins could tweet "Went for a lovely stroll today" and the SJWs would find a way to take offense. He's learned how to troll them, and it's great!

Ableist!

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Necklacing in South Africa is way down, now that the Prawns have eaten most of the old tires.

[deLurch]

Go. Do. Something. Else.

Wanking off her penis pretty much boils down to almost all of the same issues for Nataile.

[Tony Parsehole]

So, if you don't agree with Natalie Reed's "Approved List of What Poets/Musicians/Writers/etal You Can Like", you're either a liar or and uneducated and uncultured person (gotta read from bottom to top):

2014-06-29_0731.png

She's right though. When I want people to think I'm cultured and educated I always say my favourite author is Stephen King. Works every time.

Just give her a break, yeah? She's had a rough time this past couple of weeks.

[Tony Parsehole]

Go. Do. Something. Else.

Wanking off her penis pretty much boils down to almost all of the same issues for Nataile.

I don't remember you being as brutal as you've been lately. I like it. More Pl0X

[jimthepleb]

Go. Do. Something. Else.

Wanking off her penis pretty much boils down to almost all of the same issues for Nataile.

I don't remember you being as brutal as you've been lately. I like it. More Pl0X

Epic missing preposition is epic.
Sadly she seems to have blocked me, can't think why....

[Guestus Aurelius]

Go. Do. Something. Else.

Next time, try not calling 99.7% of the world "scum" and telling them to die.

We are the 99%!

[Tony Parsehole]

If you think about it the whole "Die cis scum" thing is madness.
A small minority of hateful bigots demonises and wishes death upon a large section of the population solely because they don't agree with the circumstances of their birth and we're supposed to let them off because it's 'obviously' a joke? Fuck that shit.

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5495/145 ... 8106_o.png

[welch]

Peezus has a post today promoting Surly Amy's LAWAAG feminist atheist monthly meeting in CFI Los Angeles.

But then he has a brainwave -

There’s a gaping void in the middle of the country. Quick, someone set up something similar in Minneapolis! Or the South! Or in every state!

Yes, the lifelong feminist and long-time member of Minnesota Atheists suddenly realizes that his local area has no women's group.
Well they can't have can they?
If they did then surely PZ Myers, feminist extraordinaire would know about it, wouldn't he?

Wouldn't his FTB blogging colleague and vice president of Minnesota Atheists Steph Svan have informed him about it many times - and wouldn't he be a regular attendee at their meetings?

But of course he would!

And the fact that he has never heard of such a group ... means that it cannot possibly exist!

So there!

http://i.imgur.com/L7uq0hQ.jpg

:think:

They don't count. He had neither a hand in their creation or growth. Silly women thinking they can do stuff without PZ's help or approval.

[welch]

We may as well include an example of what will likely be be our true legacy as a species...

"Your DVD player is not authorised to play disks from this region. Continued attempts to play this disk will be regarded as an illegal attempt to break or circumvent the encryption on this disk, and will regarded as an act of war. Press 1 to indicate that you have read and understood these instructions. Full details of your legal obligations are available on our website. Failure to press 1 will result in this disk self-destructing in 5 seconds. Have a nice day"

LMAO

See, now tweeting THAT back at him as an early reply would have been fucking HILARIOUS and he'd have probably had some fun with it.

[welch]

http://news.yahoo.com/2-arrested-20-dea ... 43582.html

Someone tell Commissioner Gordon to put up the Avi signal.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-28076572

Actually this may indeed be something that Avi can help with - the disaster has occurred in Chennai, the Indian city where Avicenna is based.

bet he's "on vacation" or out of the country for some other reason, and can't help, even though he's "moving heaven and earth" to get back and lead the way.

[welch]

Class.
His blog is pretty good. Reminds me a bit of Maddox.

You do realise that you will be hung from the nearest lamp post for that comment.

http://thoughtcatalog.com/parker-marie- ... -jim-goad/

Date of that article: September 2013
Date of most recent article? March 2014. :liar: :naughty:

Dude, she didn't even slow down her posting rate. Not even SLIGHTLY.

[welch]

So, if you don't agree with Natalie Reed's "Approved List of What Poets/Musicians/Writers/etal You Can Like", you're either a liar or and uneducated and uncultured person (gotta read from bottom to top):

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Silly bint. You brag on Cristal, not Dom.

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

Indeed, you and your halfwitted league of Antisocial Justice Wankers have been non-stop trolling, harassing, abusing and dehumanizing Richard Dawkins and have emptied bucket loads of hostility over his head. In doing so you've undoubtedly made the world a better place. And now make it even better by jumping off a cliff.

Presumably this is missing the word "with" after "dealing". The way it's written sounds like shehas been the one dealing out all the trolling, abusing, etc. Hang on a mnute... :think:

[Guestus Aurelius]

Also, like, you ask someone their favorite poet, novelist, artwork, band, composer and wine, and they say "Shakespeare, Stephen King, The Mona Lisa, The Beatles, Beethoven and Dom Perignon". [Y]ou don't think "Oh, this person must be educated and cultured!" You think ... This person is just saying what they think will make them sound cultured[.] ... If someone answers "Eileen Myles, Kathy Acker, The Bachelor St[r]ipped Bare, X-Ray Spex, Michael Nyman and Carlo Rossi!" then even if you don't like them, you AT LEAST assume they're being honest, and have a genuine passion for what they named.

[Sulman]

Jay is about as queer as vanilla ice cream. She's a garden-variety attention seeking moron.

[Sunder]

Dawkins could tweet "Went for a lovely stroll today" and the SJWs would find a way to take offense. He's learned how to troll them, and it's great!

"Open potluck dinner tomorrow. I'll be bringing bean casserole. What dish do you plan to bring?"

"OMG do you think bean casserole is the best food in the world or something? Why do you have so little regard for quiches or lemon meringue?"

"Everyone can bring whatever they like. If you like lemon meringue bring some and I'd love to try it."

"Um, why don't YOU bring it instead of your stupid bean casserole. Nobody likes bean casserole anyway anymore."

[Matt Cavanaugh]

I'm all for prohibiting housing & employment discrimination against trans*, and for allowing trans*, who have transitioned under the care of a physician, to be legally registered as their new gender. But neither I nor society have any obligation to bend over backwards* to facilitate Natalie or Zinnia's assorted mental issues.



* (Or, for Zinnia's benefit, to just bend over.)

[screwtape]

Indeed - seems that many of them react according to preprogrammed dogma rather than giving any critical thought to what is presented - formulaic in the extreme, the classic Orwellian "Four legs good, two legs bad".

Even more formulaic still when you remember it was originally reversed as the HGWellian "Two legs good, four legs bad" (The Island of Dr Moreau, 1896). But everything comes around again, as Squealer modified it again into "Four legs good, two legs better". I think the point is that you have to believe whatever it is fashionable to believe and memory-hole (G.O. again) the past.

[screwtape]

@Phil,

Ramadan started today. If you want revenge try grilling some food where they can smell it an hour before sunset.

(nearly sunset here and if my neighbour stared grilling shrimp on his barbie right now I would probably go cray cray)

Cray cray crayfish?

[Tony Parsehole]

Jay is about as queer as vanilla ice cream. She's a garden-variety attention seeking moron.

She's one of the absolute most pathetic of the SJW.
This storify is all you need to know about the daft cow.
https://storify.com/LazySavant/jaythenerdkid-boobs

[Gumby]

Also, like, you ask someone their favorite poet, novelist, artwork, band, composer and wine, and they say "Shakespeare, Stephen King, The Mona Lisa, The Beatles, Beethoven and Dom Perignon". [Y]ou don't think "Oh, this person must be educated and cultured!" You think ... This person is just saying what they think will make them sound cultured[.] ... If someone answers "Eileen Myles, Kathy Acker, The Bachelor St[r]ipped Bare, X-Ray Spex, Michael Nyman and Carlo Rossi!" then even if you don't like them, you AT LEAST assume they're being honest, and have a genuine passion for what they named.

I get so tired of these people. If something/someone is world-famous and liked by millions, liking them yourself makes you a poser who lies in order to make yourself look... educated and cultured?

However, if you like lesser-known things/people, everyone will think you're all cool and shit.

Natalie Reed has just described hipster douchebaggery in a nut shell.

[Tony Parsehole]

Now then, Gumbers.
*doffs hat*

[Tony Parsehole]

I get so tired of these people. If something/someone is world-famous and liked by millions, liking them yourself makes you a poser who lies in order to make yourself look... educated and cultured?

However, if you like lesser-known things/people, everyone will think you're all cool and shit.

Natalie Reed has just described hipster douchebaggery in a nut shell.

I don't ride it coz it's cool, I ride it coz it's.....Like...More efficient and shit.
http://bikehugger.com/images/blog/44677 ... de61_o.jpg

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Double, double toil and trouble; 
Fire burn and cauldron bubble.
Cool it with a baboon's blood, 
Then the charm is firm and good.

How now, you secret, black, and midnight hags! 
What is't you do?

Ophie, Taslima, and Scatwoman as FTBs three Weird Sisters?

[bhoytony]

Also, like, you ask someone their favorite poet, novelist, artwork, band, composer and wine, and they say "Shakespeare, Stephen King, The Mona Lisa, The Beatles, Beethoven and Dom Perignon". [Y]ou don't think "Oh, this person must be educated and cultured!" You think ... This person is just saying what they think will make them sound cultured[.] ... If someone answers "Eileen Myles, Kathy Acker, The Bachelor St[r]ipped Bare, X-Ray Spex, Michael Nyman and Carlo Rossi!" then even if you don't like them, you AT LEAST assume they're being honest, and have a genuine passion for what they named.

I get so tired of these people. If something/someone is world-famous and liked by millions, liking them yourself makes you a poser who lies in order to make yourself look... educated and cultured?

However, if you like lesser-known things/people, everyone will think you're all cool and shit.

Natalie Reed has just described hipster douchebaggery in a nut shell.

That whole list of alternate choices she gave was just an excuse for her to show she knows cool or obscure stuff. FFS, X Ray Spex, complete shite, but probably very far from mainstream in whatever part of US she lives.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Michael Nyman? Talentless hack. When he's not banging out atonal fecal matter, he simply rips off Purcell.

[welch]

I get so tired of these people. If something/someone is world-famous and liked by millions, liking them yourself makes you a poser who lies in order to make yourself look... educated and cultured?

However, if you like lesser-known things/people, everyone will think you're all cool and shit.

Natalie Reed has just described hipster douchebaggery in a nut shell.

That whole list of alternate choices she gave was just an excuse for her to show she knows cool or obscure stuff. FFS, X Ray Spex, complete shite, but probably very far from mainstream in whatever part of US she lives.

I guaran-fucking-tee she says "I liked them BEFORE they were popular" at least once a month.

[Gumby]

I get so tired of these people. If something/someone is world-famous and liked by millions, liking them yourself makes you a poser who lies in order to make yourself look... educated and cultured?

However, if you like lesser-known things/people, everyone will think you're all cool and shit.

Natalie Reed has just described hipster douchebaggery in a nut shell.

I don't ride it coz it's cool, I ride it coz it's.....Like...More efficient and shit.
[.img]http://bikehugger.com/images/blog/44677 ... de61_o.jpg[/img]

Just for smug hipster douchebag Natalie Reed:

http://i.imgur.com/R2Ru6dk.png