Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Anyone want to bet that Peezus will first offer a half assed "I'm sorry you're a rapist" sort of apology?

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JackRayner wrote:So, still reading the Creative Pooping rant, and I'm at this part;
In any case, I won’t be around to watch the results.

Do I have any regrets? Sure.

[...]

I didn’t ever have a sexual experience with another person that wasn’t being raped. (By the way, I’m bi. Sorry for coming out so late, but… it would have just been sort of awkward.)
Sauce Source
Is this fellow saying he's a rapist? http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x17/ ... ferent.gif
That part was WTF. The other part was WTF. The whole thing was a big fucking WTF???

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JackRayner wrote:
Cold wrote: TL;DR version:

If a woman decides she was raped, she was raped, and you raped her. Regardless of what you or anyone else thinks because it's her body and nobody gives a shit what you think.
Exactly what the world needs; a greater demand to continue infantilizing grown ass women.

I haven't in a while, but back when I used to listen to Dan Savage's podcast on the regular, this topic is something he used to bring up on a regular basis: People often drink so that they can gain the courage to do the things that they truly want to do, and that includes women wanting to let loose and jump in bed with the first attractive guy they run into...and that's okay.
That's it exactly. But the attitude that drunk women need to be protected from sex seems to be popping up more and more, even in the generally sane JREF forums:

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php? ... ost9423692
The big difference is in the size of the beer goggles, causing her to moan "Oh yes", rather than "get away from me you filthy privileged middle-aged white male!". Her actions. Influenced by the drink. Her responsibility once the "Oh yes" is out there.
But it is a function of being drunk. If she says no when she's not drunk, why should she have to be concerned about how she responds when her capacities become impaired?
:doh:

BTW, where's sacha, she's missing out!

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socialcuntism wrote:



Sex, Death And The Meaning Of Life Episode 1 Richard Dawkins (Subs)
Dawkins explains it in better detail here but the most accepted reason some need that developed along with consciousness. Our natural drive to discover, explore, examine, when something cant be explained with the tools we have at the time we associate to the invisible. earthquake god is mad, volcano, god is hungry, eclipse, god is fucking with us. we still have but now our tool is science
Another good video on the subject:

Did We Invent God?
[youtube]y0x-mNUZ2Fk[/youtube]

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another lurker wrote:VickyCaramel wrote:
I read today in the news that somebody did a study of studies and found that smart people are less likely to be religious. I don't think any of us are surprised... however I seem to remember that smart people are more likely to get sucked into cults -- probably because they can just as easily be fooled by trickery which relies on stuff like heuristics, but they *think* they are too smart to be fooled.
Somewhat tangentially related, I came across an article that was trying to answer this question: 'how can really smart people vote republican*' or somesuch:P Basically, the theory goes this way: that someone who is highly intelligent is used to being 'right' all of the time - so, when challenged on their beliefs, they will double down, instead of reconsidering their stance on certain issues :P

*no offense to the 'pit's republicans, dems can be just as stubborn over certain issues
I think there is another additional reason. A lot of intelligent people outside of academia have a knack for cutting to the core of a problem, finding quick answers, which can often be quite ruthless. I am often told to stop over-thinking things and just get on with it -- it's a poor strategy but overconfidence and conformation bias are hard to overcome. There is also the matter of focus on what is important to them. I know a few quite intelligent people who are leaning towards UKIP because illegal immigration is effecting their business. It may sort out their business problems eventually, but they are completely blinkered to all the shit I know they would disagree with if they could even keep it in their peripheral vision.

Anywhoo... I do think the Republicans speak this language. There is no grey areas, no complicated issues. It is about providing quick dramatic solutions and worrying about the details later.

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I think it's exactly the opposite...I think it's the atheists who have never been part of organized religion that I need to be more suspicious of. The ones who were born into it, but still managed to see through the bullshit and get out, are the ones who obviously have some kind of resistance to that sort of thinking.

Not that people who were raised atheist are necessarily prone to Baboonery; they just haven't really been tested.

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Parody Accountant wrote:
Gumby wrote: Grunge? Really?

Oh Peez, your transparent attempt to look hip and cool to your hipster douchebag followers is transparent. If you actually listen to grunge, I'm the fucking Space Pope.
I know what song he needs:

[youtube]3rS6mZUo3fg[/youtube]
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another lurker wrote:
Cunning Punt wrote:
Za-zen wrote:I'm officially done, i've been following this drama for too long. The skeptic atheist community is a joke for having entertained these morons for so long. Twatson is a self promoting talentless one trick pony (with a knack for getting people who should know better to giver her a pass, you know who i'm talking about, he most definitely fell for her cock sucking routine, yes Novella that's you, how many rumps in the sack did it take to trade your integrity?)

Myers, fuck, from this point forward i don't give a fuck if myers makes a good point, he's a fucking tool, the type of laughing idiot every town has. He's an embarrassment to intellect.

As for the assholes charged with running the skeptic atheist sphere, you muppets brought this crazy upon us, it was you who promoted these cunts, whilst it is very true, that we get the press we deserve, it is for those in positions of charge to attempt to stop the lunatics taking over the asylum, you cunts thought it was a good idea, because, popularism! It is for you i have the upmost scorn.

Dillafuckingcunty. I reserve special prejudice for you. You sir, have mastered the rhetoric well, but you never really did study the mechanics, did you. You're an apologist, not by trade by nature, for whatever position you assume at any given point in time. Your A+ fiasco most surely demonstrated that, you curtailed your criticism, and went so far as to defend the ideology which had beyond doubt been shown to you to be the insane corrupt aborted bastard child of the crazed halfwits, that it was claimed to be. All in the name of "the greater good". That says everything that is needed about you. You fail not only the final fence, you fail at intellectual honesty, that's why you'll never be more than a parrot of those greater than you.

The baboons. I despise you more than theists. There is too much to say, so i shall condense it into this singular point, the only action these self obsessed activists take is self pleasure, in whatever form presents itself.

The moron on the Jref forum who waxes lyrical about shermer propositioning his wife, you are a limp dick waif. You tell this story on a fucking forum! I bet my bottom dollar you did fuck all about it, you disgust me, you use this in an attempt to stain shermer, when the stain lays with you. Did you confront shermer about this insult to your honour, or did you mew sheepishly. You know what brother, it in actuality was in all probability nothing more than a fantasy of your wife, the fantasy of having a male who wasn't a fucking cuckold. I'd check your wife's pantie drawer, she probably hands them out as trophies to any male with a set to use them.
Epic rant.
Did you fap?
No but I plan to.

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BarnOwl wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Google gelding + bean for the image I got.
Same here.

Don't stallions need to be beaned as well, or do they let it all hang out frequently enough (to masturbate, probably) that it's not a problem?
Stallions too. While I've handled stallions , luckily I've never had to clean a bean on one.

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Parody Accountant wrote:
I know what song he needs:

[youtube]3rS6mZUo3fg[/youtube][/quote]

Well done, sir. :clap:

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Yeah cause Matt turned out so well...

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katamari Damassi wrote:Anyone want to bet that Peezus will first offer a half assed "I'm sorry you're a rapist" sort of apology?

Hopefully he initiates the mass suicide were all expecting.

Any one see a FTB post about cool-aid mix?

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AndrewV69 wrote:
cunt wrote:Hello retards. Just popping in to say I hope PZ gets taken to the fucking cleaners.
Be Still My Beating Heart! For the Object Of My Desire Has Appeared.

(erm ... you can ignore my email now *cough*)
If you used this site to send it. I think the email I registered with was fake.

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PM me it though.

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Gumby wrote:
BarnOwl wrote:I think the Edina MN book-signing is just the beginning of a new line of time-wasting, non-science activities planned by PeeZus:
Grunge? Really?

Oh Peez, your transparent attempt to look hip and cool to your hipster douchebag followers is transparent. If you actually listen to grunge, I'm the fucking Space Pope.
He'll be referencing dubstep, next. Fucking pretentious shitstain.


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Surely it must be time for a new thread titled in honour of PZ vs Shermer

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Post by Garlic »

Gumby wrote:
BarnOwl wrote:I think the Edina MN book-signing is just the beginning of a new line of time-wasting, non-science activities planned by PeeZus:
Grunge? Really?

Oh Peez, your transparent attempt to look hip and cool to your hipster douchebag followers is transparent. If you actually listen to grunge, I'm the fucking Space Pope.

Why not? You guys realize that he was in his early 30s when Sonic Youth and Nirvana made it big, right?

(Yes, it was that long ago.)

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Post by CommanderTuvok »

BTW, the tweet from PZ displays all the classic signs of "I'm actually OK and not thinking of the crisis engulfing me, and I'm casually going about my business shopping, playing with the puppy..." potemkin-village syndrome.

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Want to see something really creepy? Look at that picture of Peezus above, now imagine him without a beard.

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20 years since the infamous Satanic Panic of the 80's.

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/ar ... grOUaLCy81

Why do I get this feeling of deja-vu?

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I always figured Peez to be a Herb Alpert kinda guy.


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socialcuntism wrote:
katamari Damassi wrote:Anyone want to bet that Peezus will first offer a half assed "I'm sorry you're a rapist" sort of apology?

Hopefully he initiates the mass suicide were all expecting.

Any one see a FTB post about cool-aid mix?
Let's call that hyperbole.

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JayTeeAitch wrote:Nice bit of A+ lulz here. Setar told off for appropriation and racism by ceepolk. :D

You need to scroll down to the end where ceepolk locks the thread.

http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5176
Oh, what a beautiful thread. Setar started it 4 days ago, title is "Well, there goes the neighborhood. (TW: rape, rape culture)" and first line is "Just in time for the anniversary of the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the skeptical community has been hit with...well, the equivalent of nukes." That first line got hidden by SubMor as mod.

Multiple posts on page 1 with text hidden either by the post author or by mod (most by mod are for "rape culture apologia").

On page 1, Setar is criticized for bringing up Hiroshima & Nagasake (says the "massively offended" part-Japanese commenter) and for using "flaming" to describe DJ Grothe (since that's obviously a homophobic word). (Someone also disagrees with "there goes the neighborhood" in the thread title, but only because "here comes the neighborhood".)

On page 2, within 11 hrs of the opening post, ceepolk locks the thread, taking exception to the atom bomb references because so many people died, but more so to "there goes the neighborhood" because it's racist. She chews Setar out.

Setar hasn't posted at A+ forum in the 4 days since xe posted the OP for this thread (though xe has been there as recently as yesterday).

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Post by ConcentratedH2O, OM »

Gumby wrote:
BarnOwl wrote:I think the Edina MN book-signing is just the beginning of a new line of time-wasting, non-science activities planned by PeeZus:
Grunge? Really?

Oh Peez, your transparent attempt to look hip and cool to your hipster douchebag followers is transparent. If you actually listen to grunge, I'm the fucking Space Pope.

http://i.imgur.com/vZ52qti.jpg

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socialcuntism wrote:
katamari Damassi wrote:Anyone want to bet that Peezus will first offer a half assed "I'm sorry you're a rapist" sort of apology?
Hopefully he initiates the mass suicide were all expecting.
Any one see a FTB post about cool-aid mix?
Nah. He could only muster up one attempt so far.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Stallions too. While I've handled stallions , luckily I've never had to clean a bean on one.
I'm pretty wary of stallions, after seeing what a young Thoroughbred at the racetrack did to a trainer who was 6'2" and >250 lbs. My friends have a warmblood stallion who's pretty good-natured, but if he got out of his paddock and went after the mares, I wouldn't try to stop him.

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Seriously though he does listen to anus surfers.

http://i.imgur.com/n723pnq.png

Proof.

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Post by VickyCaramel »

bovarchist wrote:I think it's exactly the opposite...I think it's the atheists who have never been part of organized religion that I need to be more suspicious of. The ones who were born into it, but still managed to see through the bullshit and get out, are the ones who obviously have some kind of resistance to that sort of thinking.

Not that people who were raised atheist are necessarily prone to Baboonery; they just haven't really been tested.
It is true that religion does inoculate you against every other kind of religion. But thats only religions they inoculate you against, they still teach you faith is a virtue.

There is plenty of other bullshit out there to test all of us, every day!

I think being skeptical is definitely a skill, and it need to be applied for it to actually work, regardless of your background. The hardest part for many is actually stopping and listening before jumping in with an opinion. Definitely social media tempts people to be at the forefront.

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Atheism+ ‏@atheismplus 35m

"Innocent until proven guilty" seems like something a harasser would say. If someone isn't guilty, then why would they be accused? Checkmate
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Atheism+ ‏@atheismplus 13h

Let's not let these allegations cause us to lose sight of the true evil behind all this. Yes, I'm talking about the Slymepit. #atheismplus
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Post by SkepticalCat »

Cunning Punt wrote:20 years since the infamous Satanic Panic of the 80's.

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/ar ... grOUaLCy81

Why do I get this feeling of deja-vu?
Funny, I made pretty much the exact same comment two days ago:

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=334&p=116329&hilit=satanic#p116329

1983: "Satanic child abusers! Evidence not needed - believe the children!!"

2013: "Rapists! Evidence not needed - believe the women!!"

Strange how it was conservative christians in 1983, and liberal atheists in 2013. I guess there's a lesson in there somewhere...

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JackRayner wrote:
Parody Accountant wrote:
Gumby wrote: Grunge? Really?

Oh Peez, your transparent attempt to look hip and cool to your hipster douchebag followers is transparent. If you actually listen to grunge, I'm the fucking Space Pope.
I know what song he needs:

[youtube]3rS6mZUo3fg[/youtube]
:clap:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Tony Parsehole wrote:Can "Wannabe Hipster Myers" become a meme?
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd24 ... 179aa2.jpg

The guy in the original pic was even uglier.

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Post by SkepticalCat »

Skep tickle wrote: She chews Setar out.
Setar hasn't posted at A+ forum in the 4 days since xe posted the OP for this thread (though xe has been there as recently as yesterday).

:D
Maybe Setar will show up here at the slymepit, talking about how Atheism Plus are a bunch of crazy jerks....LOL :D


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Post by Lsuoma »

BarnOwl wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Google gelding + bean for the image I got.
Same here.

Don't stallions need to be beaned as well, or do they let it all hang out frequently enough (to masturbate, probably) that it's not a problem?
Lots of stallions will masturbate by rubbing themselves off on a log or fence or similar, so they are not as prone to the bean as geldings. A very rare few even have spontaneous ejaculations - it can be impressive.

I was, when I lived in the UK, a licensed horse semen collector for AI purposes (or as my friends called me, the Horse Wanker). I almost never encountered beans in well looked after stallions (and, of course, I didn't collect semen from geldings).

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Post by Gumby »

SkepticalCat wrote:
Skep tickle wrote: She chews Setar out.
Setar hasn't posted at A+ forum in the 4 days since xe posted the OP for this thread (though xe has been there as recently as yesterday).

:D
Maybe Setar will show up here at the slymepit, talking about how Atheism Plus are a bunch of crazy jerks....LOL :D
that would be about as likely as Nerd of Redhead showing up here in disgust, complaining how irrational the Horde is.

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Post by real horrorshow »

bovarchist wrote:
bhoytony wrote:

No, the Evil Twin always has the tache, but also a goatee. It's the law.
Not always...

http://matthewcolvin.files.wordpress.co ... man-we.jpg
Also

http://i.imgur.com/YTums34.jpg

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katamari Damassi wrote: So, so happy to be a homo.
[youtube]4lR3ffBsMTc[/youtube]

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Skep tickle wrote:
JayTeeAitch wrote:Nice bit of A+ lulz here. Setar told off for appropriation and racism by ceepolk. :D

You need to scroll down to the end where ceepolk locks the thread.

http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5176
Oh, what a beautiful thread. Setar started it 4 days ago, title is "Well, there goes the neighborhood. (TW: rape, rape culture)" and first line is "Just in time for the anniversary of the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the skeptical community has been hit with...well, the equivalent of nukes." That first line got hidden by SubMor as mod.

Multiple posts on page 1 with text hidden either by the post author or by mod (most by mod are for "rape culture apologia").

On page 1, Setar is criticized for bringing up Hiroshima & Nagasake (says the "massively offended" part-Japanese commenter) and for using "flaming" to describe DJ Grothe (since that's obviously a homophobic word). (Someone also disagrees with "there goes the neighborhood" in the thread title, but only because "here comes the neighborhood".)

On page 2, within 11 hrs of the opening post, ceepolk locks the thread, taking exception to the atom bomb references because so many people died, but more so to "there goes the neighborhood" because it's racist. She chews Setar out.

Setar hasn't posted at A+ forum in the 4 days since xe posted the OP for this thread (though xe has been there as recently as yesterday).

:D

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Garlic wrote: Why not? You guys realize that he was in his early 30s when Sonic Youth and Nirvana made it big, right?

(Yes, it was that long ago.)
Yeah, I'm not going to be ageist about music preferences. I like listening to all kinds of stuff, and most of the day I'm surrounded by people who are half my age.

I did have to restrict my lab technician to one play per day of his fucking Zwan CD, though. I brought in some old Bauhaus, Gang of Four, and Joy Division tapes to distract him and mix it up a bit - he actually liked them. Robert Sapolsky wrote this essay about how younger people are much more eclectic and experimental in their musical listening tastes, but in my experience it's been the exact opposite.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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FWIW, PZ Myers' wikipedia page seems to be out of date. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZ_Myers

It says (emphasis added) "Myers' first book, The Happy Atheist, will be published by Random House in August, 2013.[30]"

It, um, also seems to lack any mention of other recent notable events in his public life.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Lsuoma wrote:I was, when I lived in the UK, a licensed horse semen collector for AI purposes (or as my friends called me, the Horse Wanker). I almost never encountered beans in well looked after stallions (and, of course, I didn't collect semen from geldings).
I am not sure horses would be considered capable of consenting.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Post by ConcentratedH2O, OM »

Skep tickle wrote:FWIW, PZ Myers' wikipedia page seems to be out of date. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZ_Myers

It says (emphasis added) "Myers' first book, The Happy Atheist, will be published by Random House in August, 2013.[30]"

It, um, also seems to lack any mention of other recent notable events in his public life.

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I don't do Wikipedia. But if I did, that would be the most interesting page in the world.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Skep tickle wrote:FWIW, PZ Myers' wikipedia page seems to be out of date. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZ_Myers
It says (emphasis added) "Myers' first book, The Happy Atheist, will be published by Random House in August, 2013.[30]"
It, um, also seems to lack any mention of other recent notable events in his public life.
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Oddly enough I was just looking at that entry. It looks pretty crappy for a wikipedia entry. A bunch of bullshit stuffed in there that would have never made the news or be considered significant.

As far as the other "recent notable events," go if it hasn't made it into a mainstream media article, it doesn't belong in there either.

PLUS wikipedia is not the place for people to grind their axes. Just let it go.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Perhaps the most egregious of our cultural memes is an increasing tendency to seek shelter behind claims based on lived experience. I have two ideas why this may be so but they seem to be contradictory. From this distance those variants of "This is my truth and don't you dare try to tell me what happened!" sound much the same as the language I hear from my fellow travellers on the political left. Marx was emphatically not an empiricist. He did not believe facts were neutral chunks of reality that we can independently verify. For Marx facts were tainted with the ideological and interpretative bias of those who used them as data points. I think this is why one will often hear "I'm an atheist but..." from card-carrying atheists on the left, who will then proceed to toss out lazy statements about "different truths" and "other ways of knowing," not least when they are asked to comment on the egregious stupidity of some religious believers.

On the other hand, I wonder if the increasing social atomisation of the past 30 years must shoulder some of the blame. As the neoliberal agenda has sought to turn us all into solitary little units of consumption ("Finally! An egg for my generation!" as the old David Cross routine goes) our politics has headed much the same way. If there's no longer any such thing as the public sphere then there's no need to adduce arguments in the marketplace of ideas. Indeed, the marketplace is closed and everybody is pushing a trolley around the supermarket, helping themselves to whatever it is they want to believe. I cannot help but regard those claims of lived experience which are then used to justify a reluctance to involve the relevant authorities with contempt. The only rational response to "X did Y to me but I didn't involve the police" is not "PATRIARCHY!" but "So you allowed X to do Y to some other fucker?"

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Lsuoma wrote:
BarnOwl wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Google gelding + bean for the image I got.
Same here.

Don't stallions need to be beaned as well, or do they let it all hang out frequently enough (to masturbate, probably) that it's not a problem?
Lots of stallions will masturbate by rubbing themselves off on a log or fence or similar, so they are not as prone to the bean as geldings. A very rare few even have spontaneous ejaculations - it can be impressive.

I was, when I lived in the UK, a licensed horse semen collector for AI purposes (or as my friends called me, the Horse Wanker). I almost never encountered beans in well looked after stallions (and, of course, I didn't collect semen from geldings).
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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Gumby, could you critique mine?
Well, I hardly think I'm qualified, being a noob and especially seeing as how I spent all of 1.5 minutes on mine :lol: But off the top of my head, really good job getting PZ's head between the background wall and the hand holding the lighter. Head cutout is pretty rough in a couple of places, and the neck color doesn't look natural to me. Face brightness could have been toned down a bit. Gotta say though, matching skin tone is very tough, and it's always a very hit or miss thing for me.

Doesn't look like you used anti-aliasing on the head cutout, but I don't know if you even know about that so that is probably not a fair criticism. In case you don't know, anti-aliasing helps remove the "jaggies" from the edges of cutouts and blends those edges into the background to give a less cut and pasted look to a cutout. Are you using Paint.NET? If so there's an anti-aliasing addon I use that works great, I'll see if I can find the link.

Overall, a hell of a lot better job than I did when I first started doing this stuff a few months back, absolutely. You have a better command of the basics than I did when I started. :clap: If you keep doing these I predict you'll become addicted quite quickly. There's a constant urge to tweak and improve, and every shop you do will show the benefits of that obsessing. Like anything else worth doing, it takes practice.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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SkepticalCat wrote:
Cunning Punt wrote:20 years since the infamous Satanic Panic of the 80's.

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/ar ... grOUaLCy81

Why do I get this feeling of deja-vu?
Funny, I made pretty much the exact same comment two days ago:

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=334&p=116329&hilit=satanic#p116329

1983: "Satanic child abusers! Evidence not needed - believe the children!!"

2013: "Rapists! Evidence not needed - believe the women!!"

Strange how it was conservative christians in 1983, and liberal atheists in 2013. I guess there's a lesson in there somewhere...
I missed your comment. Pretty damn hard to keep track these days!

THat 1983 one was Kelly Michaels I believe.
Kelly Michaels was charged with sexually abusing twenty children. Parents wearing “Believe the Children” buttons packed the courtroom for the trial. Journalists played the new daycare horror story for all it was worth. A jury convicted Michaels. She spent the next seven years of her life in prison.

The trouble was Kelly Michaels was 100% innocent.
http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/f ... sevil.html

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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BarnOwl wrote:
Garlic wrote: Why not? You guys realize that he was in his early 30s when Sonic Youth and Nirvana made it big, right?

(Yes, it was that long ago.)
Yeah, I'm not going to be ageist about music preferences. I like listening to all kinds of stuff, and most of the day I'm surrounded by people who are half my age.
I wasn't intending to be ageist; rock out pretty hard for my age (I'm not that much younger than Peezus). I was thinking more along the lines of PZ being an stuffed shirt fuddy duddy and there's little chance he actually listens to anything like grunge on a regular basis. He was playing to his Starbucks-swilling fans there.

It's not about age it's about attitude. PZ doesn't have the attitude.

Who knows though, maybe I am indeed totally off base and he really does spend his days thrashing to the velvety tones of Anal Cunt.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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another lurker wrote:
Skep tickle wrote:
JayTeeAitch wrote:Nice bit of A+ lulz here. Setar told off for appropriation and racism by ceepolk. :D

You need to scroll down to the end where ceepolk locks the thread.

http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5176
Oh, what a beautiful thread. Setar started it 4 days ago, title is "Well, there goes the neighborhood. (TW: rape, rape culture)" and first line is "Just in time for the anniversary of the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the skeptical community has been hit with...well, the equivalent of nukes." That first line got hidden by SubMor as mod.

Multiple posts on page 1 with text hidden either by the post author or by mod (most by mod are for "rape culture apologia").

On page 1, Setar is criticized for bringing up Hiroshima & Nagasake (says the "massively offended" part-Japanese commenter) and for using "flaming" to describe DJ Grothe (since that's obviously a homophobic word). (Someone also disagrees with "there goes the neighborhood" in the thread title, but only because "here comes the neighborhood".)

On page 2, within 11 hrs of the opening post, ceepolk locks the thread, taking exception to the atom bomb references because so many people died, but more so to "there goes the neighborhood" because it's racist. She chews Setar out.

Setar hasn't posted at A+ forum in the 4 days since xe posted the OP for this thread (though xe has been there as recently as yesterday).

:D

mmm cannibalism
ceepolk the magnificent wrote:And Setar? the next time you decide that you're going to draw an allusion quite as offensive and appropriative as comparing the revaling of an anonymous source's story about being raped by prominent, well known, professional sceptic to the death of tens of thousands of people, 95% of them innocent women, children, elderly, and just flat out non-combatants? I don't care what you have to do to Not Do that But DON'T EVER DO THAT. EVER. That was way the fuck out of line.

Also i want to talk to you about "there goes the neighborhood." It's a vilely racist thing to say, because it's about black people having the right to move into white neghborhoods because that part of Jim Crow was struck down. "There goes the neighborhood" was a "joke" that was part of the massive system of racism that fueled "white flight" and is in many ways responsible for the still segregated neighborhoods we see to this day, and the environmental racism that fuels the school to prison pipeline. I don't care what you have to do to keep racist jokes out of your mouth, but KEEP THEM OUT OF YOUR MOUTH. That was way the fuck out of line.
Jesus H Christ, what smug self righteous asshole. God can you imagine having him over for the neighborhood barbecue?

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Also makes you wonder whether RationalWiki will actually be rational and document the irrationality of the Baboons on this one. In the past, they have sided with them.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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bovarchist wrote:Want to see something really creepy? Look at that picture of Peezus above, now imagine him without a beard.
"DAMN, I'M SMOOTH."

http://i.imgur.com/UJgfBRz.jpg

Tony Parshole's avatar?... Forever Alone?... Chipmunk?... Fat Greta Van Sustren?... Spongebob Squareface?...

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Post by ConcentratedH2O, OM »

Gumby wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:Gumby, could you critique mine?
Well, I hardly think I'm qualified, being a noob and especially seeing as how I spent all of 1.5 minutes on mine :lol: But off the top of my head, really good job getting PZ's head between the background wall and the hand holding the lighter. Head cutout is pretty rough in a couple of places, and the neck color doesn't look natural to me. Face brightness could have been toned down a bit. Gotta say though, matching skin tone is very tough, and it's always a very hit or miss thing for me.

Doesn't look like you used anti-aliasing on the head cutout, but I don't know if you even know about that so that is probably not a fair criticism. In case you don't know, anti-aliasing helps remove the "jaggies" from the edges of cutouts and blends those edges into the background to give a less cut and pasted look to a cutout. Are you using Paint.NET? If so there's an anti-aliasing addon I use that works great, I'll see if I can find the link.

Overall, a hell of a lot better job than I did when I first started doing this stuff a few months back, absolutely. You have a better command of the basics than I did when I started. :clap: If you keep doing these I predict you'll become addicted quite quickly. There's a constant urge to tweak and improve, and every shop you do will show the benefits of that obsessing. Like anything else worth doing, it takes practice.
Thanks Gumby. It's probably best for a total beginner to have his skills critiqued by someone better, but not the best (no offense, obviously, yours are pretty fantastic, but I'm thinking Ape+Lust and Jan, who seem to operate on a distinct level).

I had spotted the jagged lines where I tried to blend his head with the original shoulders, but could not work out how to smooth them, so thanks for the anti-aliasing tip. This could be a big one for me.

The orignal neck color was totally different to Meyers's, so I used a copy paste from his cheek. Should have altered the lighting on it I guess.

How the hell do you get an accurate head cutout, when there is all that background space between people's hair strands? That's a big issue for me.

I use Photoshop elements, which they say has all the features of PS Pro, just not as tweaked. I don't think this is true, and I'm going to try this online Paint software that people here recommend.

Thanks,
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VickyCaramel wrote:
bovarchist wrote:I think it's exactly the opposite...I think it's the atheists who have never been part of organized religion that I need to be more suspicious of. The ones who were born into it, but still managed to see through the bullshit and get out, are the ones who obviously have some kind of resistance to that sort of thinking.

Not that people who were raised atheist are necessarily prone to Baboonery; they just haven't really been tested.
It is true that religion does inoculate you against every other kind of religion. But thats only religions they inoculate you against, they still teach you faith is a virtue.
In long-running European field trials, some promising results have been achieved using a dead or weakened form of religion, one that's dull enough to introduce immunity without developing into actual faith in most patients. That still leaves the other forms of bullshit, but it's a start!

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Cunning Punt wrote: Jesus H Christ, what smug self righteous asshole. God can you imagine having him over for the neighborhood barbecue?
ceepolk is a middle-aged female. No, really.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Cunning Punt wrote:
ceepolk the magnificent wrote:And Setar? the next time you decide that you're going to draw an allusion quite as offensive and appropriative as comparing the revaling of an anonymous source's story about being raped by prominent, well known, professional sceptic to the death of tens of thousands of people, 95% of them innocent women, children, elderly, and just flat out non-combatants? I don't care what you have to do to Not Do that But DON'T EVER DO THAT. EVER. That was way the fuck out of line.

Also i want to talk to you about "there goes the neighborhood." It's a vilely racist thing to say, because it's about black people having the right to move into white neghborhoods because that part of Jim Crow was struck down. "There goes the neighborhood" was a "joke" that was part of the massive system of racism that fueled "white flight" and is in many ways responsible for the still segregated neighborhoods we see to this day, and the environmental racism that fuels the school to prison pipeline. I don't care what you have to do to keep racist jokes out of your mouth, but KEEP THEM OUT OF YOUR MOUTH. That was way the fuck out of line.
Jesus H Christ, what smug self righteous asshole. God can you imagine having him over for the neighborhood barbecue?
FYI, ceepolk is female. And she is a thundering self-righteous cunt. Setar's bad, but imo ceepolk is much much worse.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Well bugger me sideways, I finally settle my arse down to do some actual paid proper work, after seeing that drooling gobshite on the telly, and then *this* happens.

Fecking shame I can't stand popcorn, really. I'm going to go with Twiglets instead. Maybe Frazzles.

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