Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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ffqc wrote:
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ffqc wrote:
I'm hardly a troll, motherfucker. You just ignore all of the content of my posts and then get mad about the way I say things. This is why you're a cunt.
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Doh yourself, motherfuck. Wonderist invited me here, and now he's got buyer's remorse. He knew what he was getting. I was linking videos to triple anal in Justin's chat.
Boy, it's a good thing you're so hard to spin up.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Wonderist wrote:
Slither wrote:Having just caught up, I'll just note that I checked, and planes were flying from JFK to Dublin -- they just seemed to be slightly delayed. Not too surprising, given that everyone else managed to make it there without any problems. So, either Watson deliberately bailed, or she missed her flight and couldn't convince them to let her re-book. I'm guessing the former.
Pfah! I think you over-estimate. I'm guessing the latter.
My vote's on latter. If we could make book, I'd put my money on she hit the bar, got lit and missed her flight.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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JackSkeptic wrote:
Aneris wrote:
ffqc wrote:I'm not an it. I'm a "he" or "him" depending on if you're using the nominative or objective case, you black bastard.
Ok, racism. Inacceptable, too. I find the timing very interesting. We have just three posts in about the Slymepit from our "opponents", and suddenly the troll is here coughing up any cliché that fits their narrative.
Yep. Why people are engaging him I don't know. The troll is just laying seeds for another Nugent style 'gotcha' some time in the future.
Don't worry. Wonderist has a cunning plan.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Aneris wrote:Lsuoma, is there any chance to convince you to pick a different avatar? Here you have something that should be right up your ally, halfway between your current and your former..

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Do you have an issue with my use of Hitler's head? Is this crossing a post-WWII legal line in some countries like Germany where you may reside, or does it make you uncomfortable because of possible Jewish heritage or something? Normally I'm of the prevailing Pit attitude that just about anything goes here and people who complain can fuck off, but in this case I certainly can understand discomfort. It's something I just didn't consider when making that avatar, probably because I'm just a dumb gawd-and-guns bible thumping unsophisticated Merkin who thinks the world ends at Murka's borders. Or so some people here seem to think.

If you and Lsuoma want, I can make him another avatar no prob.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Hunt wrote:It's terrible when people babble about Texas Instruments. I hate that.
Haters gonna hate

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Aneris wrote:
Aneris wrote:*
Addendum: I don't think they apply it only to a specific setup of so-called "races" (i.e. you are are white dude in japan and they deliberately throw sticks into your spokes, or European among Kenyans). "White" against "black" is just the most common form.
Actually, not always, I suspect a lot of times it is cultural. When in France I often have issues ordering a coffee or similar even though I know I did it in perfect French but with, I assume, a British accent. My German friends do not get the same problem, it's quite fun to try it out. I just ignore it but if it happened in my daily life it would become a major irritation. However the clowns have hijacked the concept to apply to anything they want irrespective of merit. Like all concepts they do not know what it really means or when it should apply but it sounds like a great way to assert moral superiority and shut down discussion. So they welcome the idea with open arms.

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AndrewV69 wrote:
bhoytony wrote:
Wonderist wrote: What are you talking about?
It's as if he hasn't got a clue.
*sigh* I too have not a clue. So want to come right out and explain this "common board game" thingy to to the clueless?
This has GOT to be irony.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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I'm locked out of tweeting on @justinvacula - overflow tweets are going to @nepapodcast --- @justinvacula will be usable again in about an hour.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Wtf is up with an explosion of pages overnight and none really involving the FC(n)?

Oh I see, someone laying quotes down for a later mining expedition.

For the record, I don't sympathize much with "non-feminists" as the user ffqc insinuated as being a reason for joining here.

Surprised nobody else caught that.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Hunt wrote:“Anyone who knows anything of history knows that great social changes are impossible without feminine upheaval. Social progress can be measured exactly by the social position of the fair sex, the ugly ones included.”
― Karl Marx

That's very egalitarian of him, don't you think?
Well, that was arguably before he became a Marxist. Ahem.

But Marx (and Engels') general aims were fairly egalitarian, at least on this issues, and at least in theory. Their argument was that to achieve equality the social relations had to be changed by an economic revolution, not by meetings and pamphlets or even legislative change. While these were all well and good, they could not really change anything and they diverted action away from the revolutionary zeal of the fighting proletariat (as Lenin has it) and ended up supporting the middle class status quo, not subverting it, making a lot of the "feminists" of the day "running dogs".

Now I'm begining to scare myself.

If only Marx had realised that all you need to change society is a twitter account and a blue hair do. Sigh.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Tribble wrote:
Wonderist wrote:
Slither wrote:Having just caught up, I'll just note that I checked, and planes were flying from JFK to Dublin -- they just seemed to be slightly delayed. Not too surprising, given that everyone else managed to make it there without any problems. So, either Watson deliberately bailed, or she missed her flight and couldn't convince them to let her re-book. I'm guessing the former.
Pfah! I think you over-estimate. I'm guessing the latter.
My vote's on latter. If we could make book, I'd put my money on she hit the bar, got lit and missed her flight.
Got lit, or got lucky.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Aneris wrote:
whig wrote:Using the slympit as a whip to keep the strays in line sounds like a common bullying tactic. I'm sure if JT hadn't spent so much time decrying us the charge of SLYMPITTER! would have been hurled right at him. Also, maybe they need the blog hits since Count Vacula seems to be behaving himself as always and there's no Ron Lindsay to advance the threat narrative?
/cheers

They are essentially forcing a polarization. It is like walking around and demanding everyone to pick sides. We are just the forum with the bad reputation (there is some grain of truth to it) and them, who style themselves as the gatekeeper of the Good People. Then, people normally would pick whatever is agreeable ("the good people side") and it artificially inflates their standing. However, they fucked it up. Once they were in that position, they also wanted to be accepted as the leadership and go-to experts in these social/humanist matters. Whenever someone didn't come across exactly right, they went berserk. Now Lindsay and probably JT Eberhard and certainly anyone from the more "serious" camp will never touch on these topics (with any depth) again. Arguably, they themselves don't do it, either. When I was briefly active there I wondered where the actual discussions on Feminism take place, you know, using skepticism and the atheist perspective and put together a view that bridges the natural sciences — humanities gap. To date, I've seen no efforts. I hazard the guess that we'll never see it and if we would, there would be massive casualities. They are effectively like believers of a church who all think they believe in the same God, but carefully avoid comparing their views.
That last line is an excellent comparison to the rigid dogmatic trap the FtBers currently find themselves in. Many times in forums I've seen the bloodbaths that result when religious fundies (supposedly of the same denominational stripe) inadvertently start comparing notes. It inevitably devolves into finger pointing and shrieks of "Heretic, you're going to HELL!!!"

Sometimes (with a hearty inner chuckle of course) I would try to calm things down and mediate. Point out that if Jesus Christ actually existed, he wouldn't give a rat's ass about silly inter- or intra-denominational differences - that what would matter to him is accepting Christ into one's heart and living in, well, a Christlike fashion.

Nothing I said ever made the slightest difference. The fightin' fundies would invariably leave Jesus and his teachings face down in the mud while they continued to tear each other apart over ridiculously minor doctrinal differences.

The way other fundies avoided that, as you suggested, was to studiously avoid discussing the details of their own personal beliefs. They would just cluster around safe and universal expressions of Christian belief; basically they were limited to an uber-simplistic "Jesus good Satan bad" level of expression of individual belief.

What these fundies failed to realize, and the FtB/A+/Skepchick crowd fails to realize, is that individual beliefs or opinions about just about anything (gods, skepticism, atheism, feminism, the Slymepit) cannot be wholly dictated from on high. All beliefs are colored, shaped and influenced by the cultural and personal lenses everyone peers through as they make their way through life. Nothing is black and white in reality, but cults and tyrants always see things in black and white.

Carrier et. al. are trying to convince everyone that there is only one narrowly-defined One True Way, and they try to force everyone into it - with the usual religious punishments of shunning and shaming that go along with heresy. As you say, they try to force people to choose sides. FtB or Slymepit. Look what happened to EllenBeth when she deviated from the doctrine by saying she no longer thought all Pitters were scum. The results of "heresy" are never pretty, and the heretic always comes out looking far cleaner and more noble than the self-appointed Keepers of the Doctrine.

I'm reminded of Princess Leia's line "The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers."

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Skeeve wrote:Wtf is up with an explosion of pages overnight and none really involving the FC(n)?

Oh I see, someone laying quotes down for a later mining expedition.

For the record, I don't sympathize much with "non-feminists" as the user ffqc insinuated as being a reason for joining here.

Surprised nobody else caught that.
I caught it, but I decided from the start not to interact with that idiot.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Dick Strawkins wrote: Amd PZ Myers lies about us.
A lot.
To add in on this. PZ Myers lies about a lot of people. Sure, the Slyme Pit is one of his big targets, but it's not like we're 'special' in his sights. Truth be told, we're just convenient, low-hanging fruit used to whip up the baboons while he's waiting for something innocuous some atheist 'celebrity' or 'leader' has done that he can blow-up out of proportion. At this point in time he's burned his bridges with pretty much every 'major' atheist in atheism by, not to put a fine point on it, lying about them, their character and their motivations.

He chose the path of the demagogue and has more in common (style and conduct wise) with Bill Donohue of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights than any other public figure that touches on atheism. To the extent that any 'major players' of atheism pay any attention to him, it's because they're far bigger (in a maturity sense) than he is and they seek to move forward in atheism and secularism without playing his petty bullshit games.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Gumby wrote:
Skeeve wrote:Wtf is up with an explosion of pages overnight and none really involving the FC(n)?

Oh I see, someone laying quotes down for a later mining expedition.

For the record, I don't sympathize much with "non-feminists" as the user ffqc insinuated as being a reason for joining here.

Surprised nobody else caught that.
I caught it, but I decided from the start not to interact with that idiot.
Seconded.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Lsuoma wrote:
Wonderist wrote:
sea wrote:Hi, this is a sort of hit-and-run post because it's late here and I'm tired and have an early start tomorrow to get to the conference again. So hi, I live in Ireland and went to the conference today and when I got home I looked at the twitter feed and somehow ended up here and now I am totally confused because I had no idea there was all this drama and I am a little disappointed to have been sitting there completely clueless but I am also kind of thinking maybe I shouldn't get on the bus in the morning and go to the second day... cause, what the fuck?
If all goes according to plan, there will be *no* drama at the conference. Justin is under strict orders from the Lsuomabteilung Patriachimeister not to cause any ruckus. No, seriously, Justin is totally harmless and only wants to dispel the myths about us by just calmly and pleasantly going about his day, live-tweeting the talks, showing that we're just normal people like anyone else. He just finished a recap of the day on his podcast. Take a listen, he's totally harmless. If anyone starts drama, it will be one of the FTB crowd, and we'll be watching out for it to warn Justin if something's up so he can talk privately with the AI staff, as the conference guidelines suggest. Take a listen: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bravehero/ ... -day-one-1
Look, just fuck off with orders, and the "plan" and party lines and crap like that.

Justin is there as Justin, nobody else. Justin is under orders from nobody. Stop trying to make the Pit something that reflects your approach. Get back to the dialog with Nugent - that's a forum where you can get rules agreed, not here.
I have to agree with Lsuoma on this. You know it's sarcasm. I know it's sarcasm. Anyone who's hung out here for more than a week and is smarter than a rock or oolon knows it's sarcasm.

But you know Myers and/or someone from the FtB crowd will quote mine that shit and put words into all of our mouths. Like the Commander Tuvok quote I saw around the other day. +All Tuvok (paraphrasing) said was 'don't back down from their bullshit on the Internet and engage them in their lies.' This (his actual comment) was massively distorted to mean a full-on harassment pogrom against FtB, women and feminists.

Now imagine what your quote be twisted into by the fever-dreamed SJWs at FtB...

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Wonderist wrote:
Aneris wrote:Oh, I missed that one. He actually writes "chastise" and "angels"!? (yes he does, double-checked it). How fitting. Their whole views are practically religious (Vacula the Anti-Christ, privilege is original sin, denouncing and confessing, stark dualist world view, the patriarchy as the overarching evil and roadblock before the messianic kingdom etc. …)
Now all they need is an afterlife and it'll be a full relapse.
They do have their heaven.

Their afterlife is acceptance into their cult which includes invites to parties, speaking engagements and exclusive use of hotel lifts. They also get to say how amazingly nice and enlightened they are at every available opportunity without their friends laughing at them while being able to abuse anyone they want. At the same time they can demand exclusive attention and treatment and have a hissy fit if they do not get their way (as Zvan often does) They get to make up words to fit what they want to say not what the words mean and turn on the crocodile tears any time they want without being told to grow up. For Narcissists that is heaven.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Post by DW Adams »

Correction: I attributed that remark to ffqc, but upon searching for the quote, I found it was actually Typical_Name who authored it.

In my defense, there wasn't much difference between the two.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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ffqc wrote:
ianfc wrote:And fuck off from me ffqc
Idk what your goal is, exactly. Do you want me to stay because I have to stand my ground in order to not let on any sort of weakness? If not, then I suggest you cease and desist telling me what to do, ya prick.

It's a welcome and a test.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Gumby wrote:
Skeeve wrote:Wtf is up with an explosion of pages overnight and none really involving the FC(n)?

Oh I see, someone laying quotes down for a later mining expedition.

For the record, I don't sympathize much with "non-feminists" as the user ffqc insinuated as being a reason for joining here.

Surprised nobody else caught that.
I caught it, but I decided from the start not to interact with that idiot.
Hi, I'm ffqc's new account. Stop being a cunt and talking shit.

I don't know what a 'non-feminist' is, but I'm all for equal rights and equal opportunities and all that. I just don't believe that the failure of equal opportunity can be logically inferred from unequal outcomes. That is, the share of women in pure mathematics being so low (I'm not sure about the specifics, but easily under 20%) being so low does not mean that there is discrimination against women (which is something that feminists like to push). I refuse to accept the imposition of quotas in my field based on such an unscientific hypothesis.

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Skeeve wrote:Correction: I attributed that remark to ffqc, but upon searching for the quote, I found it was actually Typical_Name who authored it.

In my defense, there wasn't much difference between the two.
Fuck off; don't compare me to that fucker.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Gumby wrote: Do you have an issue with my use of Hitler's head? Is this crossing a post-WWII legal line in some countries like Germany where you may reside, or does it make you uncomfortable because of possible Jewish heritage or something? Normally I'm of the prevailing Pit attitude that just about anything goes here and people who complain can fuck off, but in this case I certainly can understand discomfort. It's something I just didn't consider when making that avatar, probably because I'm just a dumb gawd-and-guns bible thumping unsophisticated Merkin who thinks the world ends at Murka's borders. Or so some people here seem to think.

If you and Lsuoma want, I can make him another avatar no prob.
Somebody has to post this. Might as well be the Anglophile Texan:

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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dcomplex wrote:
Gumby wrote:
Skeeve wrote:Wtf is up with an explosion of pages overnight and none really involving the FC(n)?

Oh I see, someone laying quotes down for a later mining expedition.

For the record, I don't sympathize much with "non-feminists" as the user ffqc insinuated as being a reason for joining here.

Surprised nobody else caught that.
I caught it, but I decided from the start not to interact with that idiot.
Hi, I'm ffqc's new account. Stop being a cunt and talking shit.

I don't know what a 'non-feminist' is, but I'm all for equal rights and equal opportunities and all that. I just don't believe that the failure of equal opportunity can be logically inferred from unequal outcomes. That is, the share of women in pure mathematics being so low (I'm not sure about the specifics, but easily under 20%) being so low does not mean that there is discrimination against women (which is something that feminists like to push). I refuse to accept the imposition of quotas in my field based on such an unscientific hypothesis.
This account is locked. Any more accounts you use other than ffqc will also be locked and/or deleted. Your IP will also be banned. Yes, I do ban people.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Y'all remember pogsurf? I just saw a picture of him and Justin together.

Fuck, Justin is having a good time. Glad I helped send him there. (Even if getting pissed off at Canuck prodded me into donating)

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Lsuoma wrote: [youtube]S7tyhpWiZyM[/youtube]
What's that clip from? The animation is fantastic!
Song of the South. Disney.

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LOL @ Fawlty Towers vid.Good job BarnOwl.

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Lsuoma wrote: This account is locked. Any more accounts you use other than ffqc will also be locked and/or deleted. Your IP will also be banned. Yes, I do ban people.
Fascist tit.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Lsuoma wrote: This account is locked. Any more accounts you use other than ffqc will also be locked and/or deleted. Your IP will also be banned. Yes, I do ban people.
If that's the way you want to play, next time the information about the second account wont' be forthcoming and I'll just sockpuppet. I have 15 days until I fly back to NJ. I have very very little to do over that period of time. You will regret your decision,

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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welch wrote:My guess is her parents, teachers, and other adults filled her head with that "you're a special flower and your self-esteem is all that matters" twaddle.

I hate that crap. All it does is create delusional, weak-willed, self-absorbed kids who end up having adult-life kick them in the teeth.

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Oh, and a woman told a rape joke during her talk.

I'm ready with my :beer: and :popcorn: for the FC(n)/A+ reaction.

Yeah....probably not going to happen.

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ffqc wrote:
Lsuoma wrote: This account is locked. Any more accounts you use other than ffqc will also be locked and/or deleted. Your IP will also be banned. Yes, I do ban people.
If that's the way you want to play, next time the information about the second account wont' be forthcoming and I'll just sockpuppet. I have 15 days until I fly back to NJ. I have very very little to do over that period of time. You will regret your decision,
Banned.

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lol


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Saw that coming a mile away.

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Yeah, I know. From post two or three it was obvious.

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*patiently waiting for next account from a fresh IP*

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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FrankGrimes wrote:
Hunt wrote:It's terrible when people babble about Texas Instruments. I hate that.
Well, he does seem to have a chip on his shoulder :rimshot:
Don't Ruffles my feathers man!

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Gumby wrote:
Aneris wrote:Lsuoma, is there any chance to convince you to pick a different avatar? Here you have something that should be right up your ally, halfway between your current and your former..

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Do you have an issue with my use of Hitler's head? Is this crossing a post-WWII legal line in some countries like Germany where you may reside, or does it make you uncomfortable because of possible Jewish heritage or something? Normally I'm of the prevailing Pit attitude that just about anything goes here and people who complain can fuck off, but in this case I certainly can understand discomfort. It's something I just didn't consider when making that avatar, probably because I'm just a dumb gawd-and-guns bible thumping unsophisticated Merkin who thinks the world ends at Murka's borders. Or so some people here seem to think.

If you and Lsuoma want, I can make him another avatar no prob.
While I have no dog in this fight it may well be the Swastika which is considered verboten in Germany. Using it in any way can get people into deep trouble an that may extend to a person viewing a forum which allows it. There are limited exceptions but they would not apply here. Anyway I may be wrong.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Skeeve wrote:Correction: I attributed that remark to ffqc, but upon searching for the quote, I found it was actually Typical_Name who authored it.

In my defense, there wasn't much difference between the two.
I assumed that TN was who you meant. I'm not interacting with TN and not even naming the other idiot.

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Gumby wrote:
Aneris wrote:
whig wrote:Using the slympit as a whip to keep the strays in line sounds like a common bullying tactic. I'm sure if JT hadn't spent so much time decrying us the charge of SLYMPITTER! would have been hurled right at him. Also, maybe they need the blog hits since Count Vacula seems to be behaving himself as always and there's no Ron Lindsay to advance the threat narrative?
/cheers

They are essentially forcing a polarization. It is like walking around and demanding everyone to pick sides. We are just the forum with the bad reputation (there is some grain of truth to it) and them, who style themselves as the gatekeeper of the Good People. Then, people normally would pick whatever is agreeable ("the good people side") and it artificially inflates their standing. However, they fucked it up. Once they were in that position, they also wanted to be accepted as the leadership and go-to experts in these social/humanist matters. Whenever someone didn't come across exactly right, they went berserk. Now Lindsay and probably JT Eberhard and certainly anyone from the more "serious" camp will never touch on these topics (with any depth) again. Arguably, they themselves don't do it, either. When I was briefly active there I wondered where the actual discussions on Feminism take place, you know, using skepticism and the atheist perspective and put together a view that bridges the natural sciences — humanities gap. To date, I've seen no efforts. I hazard the guess that we'll never see it and if we would, there would be massive casualities. They are effectively like believers of a church who all think they believe in the same God, but carefully avoid comparing their views.
That last line is an excellent comparison to the rigid dogmatic trap the FtBers currently find themselves in. Many times in forums I've seen the bloodbaths that result when religious fundies (supposedly of the same denominational stripe) inadvertently start comparing notes. It inevitably devolves into finger pointing and shrieks of "Heretic, you're going to HELL!!!"

Sometimes (with a hearty inner chuckle of course) I would try to calm things down and mediate. Point out that if Jesus Christ actually existed, he wouldn't give a rat's ass about silly inter- or intra-denominational differences - that what would matter to him is accepting Christ into one's heart and living in, well, a Christlike fashion.

Nothing I said ever made the slightest difference. The fightin' fundies would invariably leave Jesus and his teachings face down in the mud while they continued to tear each other apart over ridiculously minor doctrinal differences.

The way other fundies avoided that, as you suggested, was to studiously avoid discussing the details of their own personal beliefs. They would just cluster around safe and universal expressions of Christian belief; basically they were limited to an uber-simplistic "Jesus good Satan bad" level of expression of individual belief.

What these fundies failed to realize, and the FtB/A+/Skepchick crowd fails to realize, is that individual beliefs or opinions about just about anything (gods, skepticism, atheism, feminism, the Slymepit) cannot be wholly dictated from on high. All beliefs are colored, shaped and influenced by the cultural and personal lenses everyone peers through as they make their way through life. Nothing is black and white in reality, but cults and tyrants always see things in black and white.

Carrier et. al. are trying to convince everyone that there is only one narrowly-defined One True Way, and they try to force everyone into it - with the usual religious punishments of shunning and shaming that go along with heresy. As you say, they try to force people to choose sides. FtB or Slymepit. Look what happened to EllenBeth when she deviated from the doctrine by saying she no longer thought all Pitters were scum. The results of "heresy" are never pretty, and the heretic always comes out looking far cleaner and more noble than the self-appointed Keepers of the Doctrine.

I'm reminded of Princess Leia's line "The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers."
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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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And Good Morning!, to the 48 guests.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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Skeeve wrote:Wtf is up with an explosion of pages overnight and none really involving the FC(n)?

Oh I see, someone laying quotes down for a later mining expedition.

For the record, I don't sympathize much with "non-feminists" as the user ffqc insinuated as being a reason for joining here.

Surprised nobody else caught that.
There's a difference between catching and wanting to engage.

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Steersman wrote:
ffqc wrote: Better answer: Have your interlocutors grow thicker skins, then there's no need to call them faggots.
Curious that Renee Hendricks has that first part included in her signature. Which she seems to have forgotten at “the moment of truth”. So to speak.
Excuse me? What does my (old) signature have to do with this convo? I'm thinking I haven't had enough caffeine and am reading this wrong.

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dcomplex wrote:
Skeeve wrote:Correction: I attributed that remark to ffqc, but upon searching for the quote, I found it was actually Typical_Name who authored it.

In my defense, there wasn't much difference between the two.
Fuck off; don't compare me to that fucker.
Wow, another account to get by moderation. You're the most entertaining person ever.

Who's almost impossible to spin up of course. Not that you care. In fact, your apathy almost explodes from every cell in your body.

That's you, unflappable and apathetic to the core.

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ffqc wrote:
Lsuoma wrote: This account is locked. Any more accounts you use other than ffqc will also be locked and/or deleted. Your IP will also be banned. Yes, I do ban people.
If that's the way you want to play, next time the information about the second account wont' be forthcoming and I'll just sockpuppet. I have 15 days until I fly back to NJ. I have very very little to do over that period of time. You will regret your decision,
Totes not spun up.

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Re: Shall Mr Vacula Make a Misstep in the Capital of Eire?

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JackSkeptic wrote: While I have no dog in this fight it may well be the Swastika which is considered verboten in Germany. Using it in any way can get people into deep trouble an that may extend to a person viewing a forum which allows it. There are limited exceptions but they would not apply here. Anyway I may be wrong.
Yeah, I think you're spot on here.

I certainly don't want to put Aneris or anyone else (Decius?) in a precarious situation, and can always create another avatar for Lsuoma. Already pondering it now, as a precaution.

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Hey dudes because of you guys I slept in today but never fear there is a plan which Justin is aware of. Bit bummed I didn't go cause I was looking forward to the first session. And it would have been fun to come back here and dish. Instead I will just follow on twitter and dish.

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Hoe about a nice Mogun David?

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sea wrote:Hey dudes because of you guys I slept in today but never fear there is a plan which Justin is aware of. Bit bummed I didn't go cause I was looking forward to the first session. And it would have been fun to come back here and dish. Instead I will just follow on twitter and dish.
The Slyme Pit always gets the blame. :(

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BTW, I've (reluctantly) set all new registrations to require approval by me.

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Of course it was not my fault at all no way

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Post by Phil_Giordana_FCD »

Steersman wrote: While I think he is being an A-class dickhead himself
Totally unrelated question, yet honest one:

Isn't the indefinite article supposed to accord with the noun, and not its qualificatif article? Would make it "a A-class dickhead". Again, honest inquiery.

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Lsuoma wrote:BTW, I've (reluctantly) set all new registrations to require approval by me.
meh. He was prepping for the flounce anyway. "You will regret your action". Had all the popcorn ready, and bang, ruined.

facist tit.

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Steersman wrote: While I think he is being an A-class dickhead himself
Totally unrelated question, yet honest one:

Isn't the indefinite article supposed to accord with the noun, and not its qualificatif article? Would make it "a A-class dickhead". Again, honest inquiery.

Vowels.

A clew.

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Gefan wrote:
Metalogic42 wrote:Wow, I missed a lot.

Fucking trolls.
Yeah. I think we were on page 8 when I fell asleep (something to do with an Italian liqueur that resembles Pernod - I don't even remember the name of the stuff, a shame because I need to avoid it in future).
Wake up to six pages of new stuff. Must be something good in there, right?

Wrong.
Was it Amaretto? Nothing beats a headache like Amaretto and orange juice.

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JackSkeptic wrote:
Gumby wrote:
Aneris wrote:Lsuoma, is there any chance to convince you to pick a different avatar? Here you have something that should be right up your ally, halfway between your current and your former..

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Do you have an issue with my use of Hitler's head? Is this crossing a post-WWII legal line in some countries like Germany where you may reside, or does it make you uncomfortable because of possible Jewish heritage or something? Normally I'm of the prevailing Pit attitude that just about anything goes here and people who complain can fuck off, but in this case I certainly can understand discomfort. It's something I just didn't consider when making that avatar, probably because I'm just a dumb gawd-and-guns bible thumping unsophisticated Merkin who thinks the world ends at Murka's borders. Or so some people here seem to think.

If you and Lsuoma want, I can make him another avatar no prob.
While I have no dog in this fight it may well be the Swastika which is considered verboten in Germany. Using it in any way can get people into deep trouble an that may extend to a person viewing a forum which allows it. There are limited exceptions but they would not apply here. Anyway I may be wrong.
There's just something wrong associating that face you just want to slap with something attractive.

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This try-hard trolling always reminds me of this:


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bhoytony wrote: There is one holocaust denier on the board, a poster going by the name of Git

And is the only person I've blocked.

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Steersman wrote: While I think he is being an A-class dickhead himself
Totally unrelated question, yet honest one:

Isn't the indefinite article supposed to accord with the noun, and not its qualificatif article? Would make it "a A-class dickhead". Again, honest inquiery.
I think in this usage "a-class" is considered a single word, not a word with a separate leading article.

Also, "a" instead of "an" reads and sounds awkward as hell, at least in this case.

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Skeeve wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Steersman wrote: While I think he is being an A-class dickhead himself
Totally unrelated question, yet honest one:

Isn't the indefinite article supposed to accord with the noun, and not its qualificatif article? Would make it "a A-class dickhead". Again, honest inquiery.

Vowels.

A clew.
I knew the "rules" about vowels and consonants. I just thought there was a "rule" about the subject targetted. It's one of those things that bug me at times, like people using "of" instead of "have". Still readable, just a bit grating.

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