The Periodic Table's Younger, Sexier, Sibling Thread...

[Gumby]

My other much dumber and much rarer phobia is large maps.

I've always been a map fanatic. It never even once occurred to me that they could be the cause of a phobia. Why do you think you have this fear?

[Tigzy]

I'm presently getting this when trying to have a gander at the A+ forum:

General Error
SQL ERROR [ mysqli ]

Too many connections [1040]

An sql error occurred while fetching this page. Please contact an administrator if this problem persists.

Possible DDOS attack?

[Mark Neil]

And in other news...

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa3 ... f321dc.png

To me, that looks like she's trying to tell herself she still loves a man who no longer does it for her.

You think that's why she's so hot for me?

Just imagine the kind of fanfic she is writing about you write now. If you need some help, talk with Eculidork

[AbsurdWalls]

I'm presently getting this when trying to have a gander at the A+ forum:

General Error
SQL ERROR [ mysqli ]

Too many connections [1040]

An sql error occurred while fetching this page. Please contact an administrator if this problem persists.

Possible DDOS attack?

I think the server is just shitty.

[UnbelieveSteve]

Atheismplus SQL ERROR. Ok.

[Tigzy]

Ah, the A+ forum is back anyways. *shrugs*

[Mykeru]

@Mykeru

Perhaps Effie has introduced her to the joys of a certain rage vibrating voice?

[youtube]sQuYKmiyHYg[/youtube]

[nippletwister]

They've scared off another: http://freethoughtblogs.com/tokenskeptic/

Or we have.

Depending on who you listen to.

She was always pretty non-confrontational and not a good fit for the baboon squad. She has already been declared a non person by many of the Horde for not conforming to the Received Wisdom.

Apologies if this came thru twice.

I hope this isn't you lot who have scared her off. Collateral damage in giving PZ Myers and Rebecca Watson the criticism they deserve is not OK.

I highly doubt it is anything directly to do with us.
She has never even been mentioned on the Slymepit, as far as I can recall or if she has, she was never considered part of the ingroup. The slymepit long ago called their opponents the FC6 (PZ, Ophelia, Greta, Watson, Svan and Laden - which dropped to the FC5 after Laden was expelled from FTB.) Our arguments with FTB have always been against specific individuals. Some FTBers like Mano Singham and Maryam Namazie, have never been criticised and only spoken of in praise. Others, like Karen, were neutrals in the fight and so were never in our sights.

The Slymepit should club together to get her a fruit basket.

2013: The year of the offensively nice Slymepit.

I'd love to give every internet SJW a nice fruit basket for all their self-aggrandizing "efforts" at cleaning up the world, but thanks to the idiot SJW's of the last generation, I would likely be thrown in prison, raped repeatedly, and put on a list for life.

[Mr Danksworth]

Attempts at google-fu and forum searches have been futile. What was the talk that Myers was giving when he made the bad sex jokes?

[Mykeru]

And in other news...

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa3 ... f321dc.png

To me, that looks like she's trying to tell herself she still loves a man who no longer does it for her.

You think that's why she's so hot for me?

Just imagine the kind of fanfic she is writing about you write now. If you need some help, talk with Eculidork

Hot:

[spoiler]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8509/8361 ... fb16_o.jpg[/spoiler]

[xinit]

I'm presently getting this when trying to have a gander at the A+ forum:

General Error
SQL ERROR [ mysqli ]

Too many connections [1040]

An sql error occurred while fetching this page. Please contact an administrator if this problem persists.

Possible DDOS attack?

I think the server is just shitty.

Why does SQL hate women and the transgendered so much?!

[ThreeFlangedJavis]

So...before even bothering with Dillacunty's argument, I feel the need to point something out: Is *anyone* making the argument that DoorMatt is attempting to refute? I think people should forget all about any stupid analogies comparing Youtube or blog comments to living rooms or whateverthefuck, and pay attention to the claims that he is supposedly refuting. If someone claimed that being banned/blocked from a forum/video channel/blog is violating their free speech, I would disagree, and not give much of a fuck at all. But from my knowledge, this isn't what's being said, and those of you following the carrot he's waving in front of you are giving the strawman he's made credence by trying to defend it. STOP IT.

Pointing out that the baboons are acting just like your typical creationist with their heavy censorship of dissenting speech in their own spaces [blogs, youtube channels, forums] is not the same as saying that they are infringing on others' speech, and DoorMatt totally fails when he conflates the critique against the censorship of dissent with the critique on the following:

- The baboons trying to blacklist individuals from speaking at conferences.
- Sulky Amy's abuse of DMCA. [And request that "fake" jewelry be banned from conferences.]
- Melodramatic Melody launching false flagging campaigns.

Disallowing dissent in your own turf? Whatever. It's your right, but it makes you look like a cowardly, dishonest cunt and not much of a "freethinker". Trying to silence others from speaking everywhere else? An infringement of rights.

So instead of bothering with DoorMatt's arguments, y'all need to stop and question the whole premise. Ask him instead why he is conflating similar but different criticisms, creating a strawman out of his own conflation, and then having a furious slap fight with that strawman...

Any thoughts on that?

Absolutely. This is why the baboons came up with the Freeze Peach thing. It's an old tactic of PZ's and ties into the ludicrous concept of the dungeon. He likes to present dissenters as ranty lunatics demanding a voice in his 'home' and the dungeon is a symbolic way of saying that you are barred from rational company, i.e. his blog.

[16bitheretic]

I don't moderate my social networks, or my YouTube channel. Or my blog. For the very reason that by virtue of my venues being in the public domain, I am inviting people to comment on what I said or wrote.

Thank you for what you do. I'm amazed at how badly some of your peers want to just live in a perpetual echo-chamber where every poster will just kiss their asses so as not to get banned and then even jump to defend the echo chamber with that "FREEZE PEACH!" bullshit. That mindset is disgusting.

[Dick Strawkins]

Attempts at google-fu and forum searches have been futile. What was the talk that Myers was giving when he made the bad sex jokes?

Skepticon3

[Tigzy]

Attempts at google-fu and forum searches have been futile. What was the talk that Myers was giving when he made the bad sex jokes?

http://www.tubechop.com/watch/745147

It's fairly long, and unfortunately it doesn't give a time-stamp for when Peezee starts getting a bit letchy - but it begins roughly 1/3 of the way through.

[nippletwister]

Good news!

It looks like the Tina Fey thing isn't being dropped.
A petition has been started to get her to apologize!

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/peti ... logize-to/

[spoiler]

Ms Fey,
You may not be aware, but there is an undercurrent of feminism in the secular, atheist, gaming, geek and science communities. It is gaining in strength and voice, and recently, you have gotten our attention. You are a welcome voice among a cacophony of belligerence and sexism.
We would love to throw our full support behind you…. but…
You do things like make slut shaming jokes about people’s mothers. If you aren’t familiar with the term “slut shaming”, please google it, there is plenty of information about it and how it contributes to the patriarchy. “We” (you and us) should not be in the business of perpetuating stereotypes that denigrate women. Making jokes about mothers who are sluts does exactly that.
More than that, you described your use of the insult “cunt”, as “an accurate assessment of my doctor's personality”. You do not seem to realize that to use a word that biologist PZ Myers has described as “the most odious of anatomical features” is tantamount to throwing in your lot with the gender traitors and PIV apologists. As Free Thought Blogger, Ophelia Benson, has said: “I can say that without using sexist epithets. I don't know why you pricks can't manage that.”
Tina, you are a brilliant and vibrant voice who gets it, just please think about it a little bit more?
We ask you to formally make a sincere and contrite apology to the feminist community, and to make amends for your mistake by showing a willingness to learn from your errors by signing on to the atheismplus education forum where you will learn which subjects must never be the subject of humor or mockery and which insults are appropriate for which circumstance (quick tip: if in doubt just use douchebag!)
In addition we ask that, in future, you refrain from making jokes about controversial topics, such as those involving gender or sexuality, without the prior consultation of those with an expertise in correct feminism. We suggest an ideal assisting committee consisting of PZ Myers, Ophelia Benson, Rebecca Watson, Stephanie Zvan and Greg Laden.
We ask, Tina, that you respond to our petition in the knowledge that your promise to improve your humor will encourage up-and-coming female comedians to likewise “get it”.
Remember, we won’t hate her, if she’s not a gender traitor!

How do you sign these things?[/spoiler]

Now this I can get behind! http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x17/ ... hand10.gif

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x17/ ... 98177e.png

[spoiler]Disclaimer: I did not start this petition... :whistle:[/spoiler]

I think it's a great idea, but someone here wrote it, right? That can't be real....

[soldierwhy]

http://www.dressforsuccess.org/locations.aspx

Uhm, dressforsuccess only seems to be available to people living in very *specific* locations.

So, uhm, I totally feel discriminated against and less privileged than those who have access.

They are like, totally 'travelist' , or something :P

I clicked on that link and discovered that there is actually one near me in the UK. Sounds like a good idea and I figured I could donate some suits, shirts and shoes etc. Until I read this:

The mission of Dress for Success is to promote the economic independence of disadvantaged women by providing professional attire, a network of support and the career development tools to help women thrive in work and in life.

Would it really be so hard, if you have the ability and resources to run a facility like this, to cater for both sexes?

[acathode]

It's like a fucking Monthy Python sketch, only these loony cunts are actually serious.

That's what makes it sooo good.

The A+ forums really takes one of the top spots of 2012 most funniest things, it's like a wonderful mix of "Woody and tinny words", "the fish dance", "I'm a lumberjack" (including the murderous barber part), "Ministry of Silly walks", "the Spanish Inquisition", a few of those gory bloodbath sketches, and the oppression Olympics of the Four Yorkshire-men... but with REAL people!

I'd give it a 4.5 out of 5 humor stars , and the -0.5 only because since one or two of them might actually have any sort of power over other humans in real life, which is a scary thought.

[AbsurdWalls]

http://www.dressforsuccess.org/locations.aspx

Uhm, dressforsuccess only seems to be available to people living in very *specific* locations.

So, uhm, I totally feel discriminated against and less privileged than those who have access.

They are like, totally 'travelist' , or something :P

I clicked on that link and discovered that there is actually one near me in the UK. Sounds like a good idea and I figured I could donate some suits, shirts and shoes etc. Until I read this:

The mission of Dress for Success is to promote the economic independence of disadvantaged women by providing professional attire, a network of support and the career development tools to help women thrive in work and in life.

Would it really be so hard, if you have the ability and resources to run a facility like this, to cater for both sexes?

I'd love to get a part-time job but I'm too broke to afford a suit. Not sure whether "scruffy academic" would really work for an interview.

[JackRayner]

And in other news...

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa3 ... f321dc.png

Awww... There's a good husband! Give him a treat Melody.

[spoiler]http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa3 ... 61951.jpeg[/spoiler]

Where does this unconditionally shit come from? I understand maybe you might love your children unconditionally, but your partner? If they hit you? If they cheated on you? If they left you with 2.4 kids to bring up?

Dunno, but it seems like a view consistent with feminist ideas. Anyone that complains about the gender earnings gap, for example, is a poster child for this, in my view;

"WAH! WOMEN SHOULD GET PAID EXACTLY THE SAME AS MEN!!!!! even if they're not working jobs which require as much education/experience/skill/physical exertion, and even if they're not working as many hours..."

[LMU]

And is it just more, or do people feel the thread has more snap? I'll probably be restarting at 10K each time - I had hear no complaints at that point.

It is indeed snappier.

I don't notice any difference, but that might just be my privilege talking (I didn't notice it behaving poorly before).

[Gumby]

I'm presently getting this when trying to have a gander at the A+ forum:

General Error
SQL ERROR [ mysqli ]

Too many connections [1040]

An sql error occurred while fetching this page. Please contact an administrator if this problem persists.

Possible DDOS attack?

This happens to them quite often. I think it's something screwy in their database, rather than an attack. Either that, or they're being hosted on a Commodore 64.

[Dick Strawkins]

Attempts at google-fu and forum searches have been futile. What was the talk that Myers was giving when he made the bad sex jokes?

http://www.tubechop.com/watch/745147

It's fairly long, and unfortunately it doesn't give a time-stamp for when Peezee starts getting a bit letchy - but it begins roughly 1/3 of the way through.

I think the talk was called:
"Life genetics and evolution are like a poker game"

Myers comes across as creepy when he is doing the sex jokes. I think that's why Watson got the big laughs at the beginning of her talk just after PZ, when she jokes about him trying to impregnate her. PZ's behavior in this talk makes Watsons joke sound kind of plausible.

[soldierwhy]

I was also wondering if the real intent of the A+ forums was to quarantine a section of the commentators away from FTB in order to distance some of the nuttier ones away under the guise of "safe space".

A+Theism is the B Ark?

[spoiler][youtube]CSid-p0Xlk0[/youtube][/spoiler]

[welch]

Those morons are throwing their money at Greta to do what? Teach us a lesson? What a childish, and utterly idiotic way to prove some twisted point they have. Not only that, but Gretta is actually accepting all these 'donations'? WTF? If she had any sense of decency she'd be refunding everyone and telling people not to give her any cash. She is such a greedy bitch. I am seriously disgusted with her. In fact, she tops my cunt list at the moment. Something I never thought Gretta could accomplish, but she has.

I'm all in favor of taking money from the stupid. If they want to send her money to "teach us a lesson", they should. In fact, I haven't learned a fucking thing yet, so they should send Greta MORE money. IN fact, they should relentlessly send her every fucking dime they have or make UNTIL I LEARN MY LESSON! BE IT WEEKS, YEARS, NAY DECADES, IT SHALL NOT STOP. THEY SHALL SEND GRETA ALL THEIR MONEY UNTIL BASTARDS LIKE US LEARN OUR FUCKING PLACE.

I think that they should teach you a lesson by sending me money.

SEND ALL THE MONEY TO EVERYONE! SHOW ME WHAT FOR!

[welch]

I do believe the brilliant Barbara Drescher has just called PZ Myers an asshole.
I'll probably go all Eucliwood and dream about her tonight. But I'll keep it to myself.

Sincere? Ironic? What has she done that is brilliant?

Sincere, yes. "Brilliant" is a little OTT but I think she's a very smart person and a credit to the skeptic movement. I recommend her blog:

http://icbseverywhere.com/

I spotted that she's chummy with Greg Laden and thought you were joking. I will have a look.

She might be, and I would disapprove if she was, not that my disapproval means anything, but I like that she is relentlessly skeptical about all claims and jumps on nobody's bandwagon.

She's really smart, and yes, thinks and tests all the time.

[Outwest]

*snip*

The mission of Dress for Success is to promote the economic independence of disadvantaged women by providing professional attire, a network of support and the career development tools to help women thrive in work and in life.

So maybe Atheism+ should be more properly renamed, since it's apparent that their focus is not Social Justice for all, but just women. And would this include minority women, or just the less privileged white women?

Looking for some ideas here, while I make some coffee and wake the hell up.

[JackRayner]

And in other news...

[spoiler]http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa3 ... f321dc.png[/spoiler]

To me, that looks like she's trying to tell herself she still loves a man who no longer does it for her.

Possible. It's not unusual for me to see such public proclamations from friends on bookface hours/days before seeing their relationship status changed from "in a relationship" to "single". When I see such bullshit sounding statements I usually leave a comment that simply says "Appeasement." Only a few of my friends get it and tell me to fuck off though. :lol:

:lol:

Caine, Fleur du mal +
8 January 2013 at 2:52 pm (UTC -6)

Rob, if you’re not familiar with Paul Elam or JohnTheOther or the rest of AVFM, do some reading at manboobz.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ent-531451

Caine, why not, er, link to AVFM, Paul Elam or JtO directly, if you think Rob ought to be more familiar with them?

Stop it with all of your man-logic! Why force someone to think for themselves when they can just adopt someone else's opinion on the matter???!?!?!?!?!

[Mr Danksworth]

Dick and Tigzy, thanks.

[UnbelieveSteve]

Atheismplus delivers again.
Are you sure it's not a poe forum?

http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3472

[AndrewV69]

If so, it would be pretty easy to find, not that I'm bothered to try. Really, the reason it's so quiet over there anymore is because the whackjobs drove all the reasonably sane people out. People thought A+ was going to be a warm and fuzzy version of atheism that used skepticism to tackle social issues, what they got was Simpleflower and Setar.

Hmmmmm. The more I think about it, the more convinced I am that they would get along like a house of fire with this one:

http://www.slymepit.com/phpbb/viewtopic ... 926#p46926

http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/ ... -combo.jpg[/quote]

[justinvacula]

And in other news...

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa3 ... f321dc.png

Awww... There's a good husband! Give him a treat Melody.

Unconditional love disgusts me. Surely someone would leave their partner if horrendous crimes were committed without concern or care...right?

[Outwest]

Those morons are throwing their money at Greta to do what? Teach us a lesson? What a childish, and utterly idiotic way to prove some twisted point they have. Not only that, but Gretta is actually accepting all these 'donations'? WTF? If she had any sense of decency she'd be refunding everyone and telling people not to give her any cash. She is such a greedy bitch. I am seriously disgusted with her. In fact, she tops my cunt list at the moment. Something I never thought Gretta could accomplish, but she has.

I'm all in favor of taking money from the stupid. If they want to send her money to "teach us a lesson", they should. In fact, I haven't learned a fucking thing yet, so they should send Greta MORE money. IN fact, they should relentlessly send her every fucking dime they have or make UNTIL I LEARN MY LESSON! BE IT WEEKS, YEARS, NAY DECADES, IT SHALL NOT STOP. THEY SHALL SEND GRETA ALL THEIR MONEY UNTIL BASTARDS LIKE US LEARN OUR FUCKING PLACE.

I think that they should teach you a lesson by sending me money.

I wonder what their mommy and daddy will think when they get their precious little snowflakes credit card bill and see all these charges to PayPal?

[another lurker]

Atheismplus delivers again.
Are you sure it's not a poe forum?

http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3472

Reading it now.

Wow.

They need TRIGGER WARNINGS for Rick Astley's 'never gonna give you up ' video?
hahaha
hahahaahaha
hahahahahaahhaahah

comedy gold
I now regale my bf daily with tales of A+ retardation

[Scented Nectar]

The free speech part of me doesn't want to ban her, but I sure would like her to take responsibility for the shit she wrote and stop doing it, although she seems to have taken it to his email instead now. It's not often that I consider threats/harassment to be credible, but she's doing that insane sort of psychotic believing that she's got something going with someone, only it's all in her head. I hope Jason publishes what she wrote him, but maybe he'd be scared to show a female doing all those bad things since we all know that it's only men who do those things, and only to women.

Well, he might get a tad worried if it gets to this stage:
http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3q7l2l/qm.gif

Yeah, that's the type she seems like to me. I know both sexes can be fucked up and do shit like that, but in my experience, I've seen more women do it than men. It's not a matter of sexism even. More of a psychotic love obsession, a built up fantasy they think is reality, but only exists in their heads. Then they try to make reality fit, which it never does properly. Then, of course, chaos and hilarity ensue.

[Rystefn]

Atheismplus delivers again.
Are you sure it's not a poe forum?

http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3472

In my experience, people who can't hear don't need transcripts because they have speech-to-text. The ones that don't usually aren't whining about it, they just ignore that shit, because if you can't take the time to put it in writing, then clearly it's not important enough for them to worry about. Limited sample size, blah blah, but that's what I've seen.

[AbsurdWalls]

*snip*

The mission of Dress for Success is to promote the economic independence of disadvantaged women by providing professional attire, a network of support and the career development tools to help women thrive in work and in life.

So maybe Atheism+ should be more properly renamed, since it's apparent that their focus is not Social Justice for all, but just women. And would this include minority women, or just the less privileged white women?

Looking for some ideas here, while I make some coffee and wake the hell up.

The fact that two people posting in the thread (so that's what, a quarter of the respondents so far?) have either directly benefited or had a friend benefit from that charity makes me think it is a bit of a boondoggle. Probably well-intentioned, but I imagine their pool of possible clients is mostly the sort of people involved in this kind of activism because:
a) they are the ones who will have heard about the charity
and
b) they will have the confidence and connections to sign up for it.

That is my cynical perspective.

[sacha]

Me and Frank (aka 'Sir Snort), chillin' out in the kitchen. Yes, everything I own is fucking covered in dog hair.

http://www.alstefanelli.com/Meandfrank.jpg

none of you have any idea what "covered in dog hair" means.

I have four big dogs here with me right now. Three are having a wrestling match. Sometimes I have up to eight over to play, and have a few before and after that.

those sticky tape rollers would not last a minute.

Over a year's time, I'm sure I inadvertently eat my weight in fur.

[jjbinx007]

http://i.imgur.com/92emH.png

[decius]

[img]http://i.imgur.com/92emH.png

WTF?

[windy]

http://blogs.nature.com/naturejobs/2012 ... ut-should/

Many in the audience said they were put-off by the reaction to blogger Rebecca Watson and feared the negative responses from trolls.

For crying out loud, why are professional scientists bothering with that tit's scare propaganda?

A good article, but saying that women scientists themselves could do more to change the situation is probably considered misogynist these days.

[codelette]

Today on "Blast from the Past"!

Setting the Record Straight on Ophelia Benson
By The Intersection | July 12, 2010 1:53 pm
We haven’t said anything about Ophelia Benson on this blog in a long time. We stopped allowing Benson to comment here back in mid 2009, for very good reasons–among other things, she was sending us emails demanding to have other posters’ comments deleted. We had a better solution.

Lately, Benson has been clamoring to have her commenting status restored, based on the “Tom Johnson” flap. This doesn’t make any sense, as the thread that led to her banning happened long before that affair.

Still, we decided to look at what Benson was saying in favor of her restoration:

He or he and Sheril Kirshenbaum banned me from commenting at The Intersection soon after I began trying to get them to do a better job of justifying their claims and to criticize their energetic and often inaccurate bashing of new atheists. Commenters who agreed with them were not banned or even moderated, no matter how abusive their comments were. One “bilbo” repeatedly called me a liar after I posted a list of questions for M and K.

Benson’s banning had nothing to do with her positions. Moreover, how does she know who was or wasn’t banned or moderated? We can’t tell you how heavily we have had to moderate John Kwok, for instance, and he often agrees with us–albeit usually unhelpfully. (Kwok was recently banned.)

In any case, the core of her claim for restoration seems to be something about “bilbo” attacking her here. Here are two unpublished comments that Benson left on the blog recently:

How about an apology for allowing “bilbo” (same guy as “Tom Johnson”) to call me a liar here but banning me? How about unbanning me?

And:

So “bilbo” who repeatedly said here that I was lying in my questions to you two was not moderated, but I who repeatedly asked you two to do a better job of justifying your claims – I was banned. Do you think you should have second thoughts about that now, Sheril? Now that you know “bilbo” was William? A sock puppet? Who has made something of a career of saying I’m lying when I say something he dislikes?

I think you should lift the ban on me, and I think you should apologize.

There will be no lifting of the ban. These claims are meritless.

Benson was banned in July of 2009. There was no “bilbo” on the thread that led to her banning. Look for yourself.

Indeed, we have checked our logs, and the first appearance of the “bilbo” who also turned out to be “Tom Johnson,” “Milton C,” etc, was in September of 2009. Long after Benson had been banned.

Neither did “bilbo” ever attack Benson on our blog, that we can see. We only found this one “bilbo” comment that even mentions her, when listing several people, and it is pretty harmless.

The actions of “bilbo” and Benson’s banning have nothing to do with one another, then. Except in the sense that both are now banned–and will remain so.

More generally, we may as well reiterate that nobody has a “right” to comment on our blog. If you come by and don’t behave–aren’t civil, aren’t substantive, aren’t accurate, engage in attacks, become a nuisance, etcetera–then you’re gone. It is our intention to foster a forum for reasonable, thoughtful, civil discussion of the topics that interest us. And we will take strong and immediate steps to preserve this forum.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/inter ... OyxTInjlCc

[Wild Zontargs]

People thought A+ was going to be a warm and fuzzy version of atheism that used skepticism to tackle social issues

The worst thing is, I understand the appeal of that. So is this is yet another case of "the problem with [ideology] is it sounds great in principle, but can't work in practice", "the problem with [ideology] is it was hijacked by fanatics and morons", People on the Internet (TM), or just standard human dumb-fuckery? I'm inclined towards the latter, but then again I have a pessimistic streak.

[another lurker]

[spoiler]http://i.imgur.com/92emH.png[/spoiler]

That reminds me of when they all went apeshit over some guys posting pix of themselves holding signs that said, for example:

"you are beautiful even without makeup"

Amanda Marcotte and other feminists got really angry, accusing men of 'telling women how to act' and 'mansplaining' amongst other things. The best was 'they think we need *their* approval, just more sexism.'

When really, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. These guys were just sayin 'hey, we love you women even if you dont have 6 inches of makeup on'

For the feminazis, everything has to be turned into an insult.

[Michael K Gray]

Atheismplus delivers again.
Are you sure it's not a poe forum?

http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3472

Reading it now.

Wow.

They need TRIGGER WARNINGS for Rick Astley's 'never gonna give you up ' video?
hahaha
hahahaahaha
hahahahahaahhaahah

comedy gold
I now regale my bf daily with tales of A+ retardation

It gets better!
One poster on that thread has as a sig, a banner reading:
http://www.michaelgray.com.au/Resources ... ynists.png
On a site devoted to Atheism & Feminism!!!!
A plea to support the most vile religion ever devised, and support the worst bunch of true misogynists on the fucking planet!!
You couldn't make up this shit.
No-one would believe you.

[codelette]

[spoiler]http://i.imgur.com/92emH.png[/spoiler]

That reminds me of when they all went apeshit over some guys posting pix of themselves holding signs that said, for example:

"you are beautiful even without makeup"

Amanda Marcotte and other feminists got really angry, accusing men of 'telling women how to act' and 'mansplaining' amongst other things. The best was 'they think we need *their* approval, just more sexism.'

When really, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. These guys were just sayin 'hey, we love you women even if you dont have 6 inches of makeup on'

For the feminazis, everything has to be turned into an insult.

Amanda Marcotte got really angry cause there is no amount of makeup -and/or hard liquor- that will do something for that hideous face.

[Richard Dworkins]

Regarding this post

viewtopic.php?p=46909#p46909

Did Myers actually refer to something as "the most odious of anatomical features" and to what was he referring if true. I could infer, but such an inference alludes to some deeply questionable considerations about Myers relationship with femininity.

[Tigzy]

Amanda Marcotte got really angry cause there is no amount of makeup -and/or hard liquor- that will do something for that hideous face.

I went out with a woman who looked just like Amanda Marcotte (probably explains that weird dream I had about her). She turned out to be completely nuts. My own fault for presuming that the best way to get a date was to have no standards at all. I've, er, since had cause to revise that opinion.

[Lsuoma]

Somebody asked if I could put a link to the last post in a thread at the bottom of every page.

I COULD do this, but it would involve me breaking the scoping of variables between forum and topic (thread) views, which I'm reluctant to do without digging more deeply into the code and looking at the structure.

In short, the answer is no, at least for the present. A quick way to get there is to go to the topic page, and click on the "Last Post" link in the topic header. This will always be present unless you've already read the last post, in which case, seek help.

Thanks!

[justinvacula]

The Thinking Atheist's show is on now - Shermer to soon join:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/thethinkin ... l-atheists

[Lurkion]

[spoiler]

I was wondering why we keep talking about FTB and A+. I think I've figured it out.

It's ingrained in us to rubber-neck when we see a disaster. We've all been staring at the 5 car pile up as we drive slowly by.

Then for most of us, one of the people involved has run up to our car and punched us in the face. So we're sticking around a while longer. (Waiting for the police? This is where my metaphor falls apart.)

[/spoiler]

We need to care about these people because:

1) Some of the things they do are actively harmful.

2) They are attempting to become the single voice that speaks for the atheism movement.

Point 2) is why the banning, blocking, blacklisting etc. matters. These people are trying to control the debate and exclude dissenting voices. Look at that conference line-up from the other thread, every speaker is a true believer. That paradigm must not win.

This is a bit late because I'm in a different timezone but I agree with AbsurdWalls entirely.

[jjbinx007]

I've no idea if this expression exists, so hopefully I'm going to coin it right now.

Drama bait.

They do it for the ad revenue. The more controversial a post is the more page views it gets and consequently the more $$$ they get when Ed divives up the money. That's why PZ prevents people leaving Youtube comments and instead directs them to his blog. That's why Benson, Svan and Christina write obvious flamebait. They want drama because it makes them money. When they write about normal non-drama things they get very few comments, so I imagine they also get far fewer page views and ads served.

Some examples from Ophelia's blog:

We the peeps - 4 comments

Fluttering - 10 comments

Her mistake - 13 comments

Once upon a time in Kenya - 7 comments

This is why we can't have nice shoes - 117 comments.


Great Christina's blog:

Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters - 10 comments

“Had the girl simply surrendered…” - 117 comments

Happy Birthday To Me - 45 comments

Atheists of Color: Updating the List - 23 comments

Fashion Friday: Dressy Comfortable Shoes, and Thinking Outside the Box - 36 comments

Greta Speaking in San Francisco Sun. 1/13 - 1 comment

The Absurd Manufactured Shoe Controversy: A Brief Response - 179 comments

6 Outrageous Incidents of Discrimination Against Nonbelievers - 6 comments


And so it goes on. Meanwhile, someone utterly uncontroversial, like AronRa, typically only gets around 5-25 comments on average. I doubt very much he's in it for the money.

[John Greg]

codelette at http://www.slymepit.com/phpbb/viewtopic ... 074#p47074 , that is fascinating. Benson complaining about exactly and precisely the kind of behaviour she regularly enacts on her blog, and she being guilty of exactly and precisely the kind of bad behaviour that got her banned, the exact behaviour she uses as an excuse to ban folks from her blog.

The hypocrisy on this one is beyond blatant.

Thanks for that.

Richard Dworkins (love the name - woe, shades of HMMS Andrea) asked:

Did Myers actually refer to something as "the most odious of anatomical features" and to what was he referring if true.

Yes, he did. He was referring to teh Bad Guys use of teh Bad Werd "cunt". But he was trying to be reflectively ironic, or something like that, in that his statement was an attempt at expressing that it was the intent of the users of the bad word cunt that in using the word cunt the Bad Guys intended to imply that all cunts were odious, simply through the use of the word. It was not his intention to imply that he thought cunts were odious. It was simply yet another example of his really poor writing skills.

[Tkmlac]

"male dominated enslavement," "desecrated corpse," "struck by a slow moving steam roller..." The fuck? There are really people out there like this???

[katamari Damassi]

Those morons are throwing their money at Greta to do what? Teach us a lesson? What a childish, and utterly idiotic way to prove some twisted point they have. Not only that, but Gretta is actually accepting all these 'donations'? WTF? If she had any sense of decency she'd be refunding everyone and telling people not to give her any cash. She is such a greedy bitch. I am seriously disgusted with her. In fact, she tops my cunt list at the moment. Something I never thought Gretta could accomplish, but she has.

Greta feels entitled to that money. Why? Because she does so much to help people by sharing her wisdom on her blog.

[Tigzy]

Today on "Blast from the Past"!

We stopped allowing Benson to comment here back in mid 2009, for very good reasons–among other things, she was sending us emails demanding to have other posters’ comments deleted.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/inter ... OyxTInjlCc

:lol: -Ah, that's Pruney all over, isn't it? God forbid that woman ever got into a position of any real authority. I'd probably have to become a terrorist.

[BarnOwl]

My other much dumber and much rarer phobia is large maps.

I've always been a map fanatic. It never even once occurred to me that they could be the cause of a phobia. Why do you think you have this fear?

Of course you read the Strange Maps blog then. Maps are awesome, especially as collage and art journal fodder.

<------ Sez the person who just ripped pages out of an old discarded mouse genetics book and modified them as part of an art journal. Surely there is a special circle of nonexistent hell, reserved for book defacers like me.

[codelette]

Amanda Marcotte got really angry cause there is no amount of makeup -and/or hard liquor- that will do something for that hideous face.

I went out with a woman who looked just like Amanda Marcotte (probably explains that weird dream I had about her). She turned out to be completely nuts. My own fault for presuming that the best way to get a date was to have no standards at all. I've, er, since had cause to revise that opinion.

I've been thinking about those wackaloonies and their lack of attractiveness and thinking that most of the issues they have are either:
1) awareness about their lack of good looks
2) resentfulness towards other people with better looks that ignore them as possible partners/hookups
I think that the so-called "sexism" problem in those skeptic conferences will be fixed if they go to a "beautiful people" club in Vegas.
Of course, then they will be ignored and then complain about "invisibility" and/or "being erased" or some other bullshit.

[JackRayner]

"male dominated enslavement," "desecrated corpse," "struck by a slow moving steam roller..." The fuck? There are really people out there like this???

I'm forced* to ask myself this question every time I read some of the crazier SJW nonsense. I can't begin to imagine what it's like living with such a headspace. It's gotta be scary.

*It's pretty much a defense mechanism. I don't want to believe people like this really exist...

[Outwest]

I've no idea if this expression exists, so hopefully I'm going to coin it right now.

Drama bait.

They do it for the ad revenue. The more controversial a post is the more page views it gets and consequently the more $$$ they get when Ed divives up the money. That's why PZ prevents people leaving Youtube comments and instead directs them to his blog. That's why Benson, Svan and Christina write obvious flamebait. They want drama because it makes them money. When they write about normal non-drama things they get very few comments, so I imagine they also get far fewer page views and ads served.

Some examples from Ophelia's blog:

We the peeps - 4 comments

Fluttering - 10 comments

Her mistake - 13 comments

Once upon a time in Kenya - 7 comments

This is why we can't have nice shoes - 117 comments.


Great Christina's blog:

Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters - 10 comments

“Had the girl simply surrendered…” - 117 comments

Happy Birthday To Me - 45 comments

Atheists of Color: Updating the List - 23 comments

Fashion Friday: Dressy Comfortable Shoes, and Thinking Outside the Box - 36 comments

Greta Speaking in San Francisco Sun. 1/13 - 1 comment

The Absurd Manufactured Shoe Controversy: A Brief Response - 179 comments

6 Outrageous Incidents of Discrimination Against Nonbelievers - 6 comments


And so it goes on. Meanwhile, someone utterly uncontroversial, like AronRa, typically only gets around 5-25 comments on average. I doubt very much he's in it for the money.

I guess I'll have to go look, but out of the 179 comments on the shoe controversy, how many different people? One of the things I noticed on PZ's comment section was there were on average, 20-30 regular commenters and one reason the comment thread became so huge was if there was a "troll" commenting as well who eventually was banned.