Gumby wrote:FrankGrimes wrote:The narrative was set up years ago of course. Maybe I'm being a little cynical but to me it's classic product placement. Create a problem that doesn't exist then sell the solution.
That's the way I've always thought of it, except I tend to think of it in religion-building terms rather than product placement.
1. Start spreading propaganda that men are evil patriarchal beasts who hate women and would rape them if given the tiniest chance. Men become Satan, misogyny becomes Original Sin, because all men are necessarily afflicted with it.
2. Announce the cure - a specific gender feminism that will fight the devil and sin. Tell everyone that salvation from misogyny can only be attained by following this doctrine.
3. Brand all those who follow different philosophies, or disagree with even minor aspects of the doctrine, as evil patriarchal misogynists who are unclean. Shun them, shame them, vilify and pillory them, and try to exclude them from the community.
4. Control your flock as tightly as you possibly can. Monitor their every word and action, and hold those words and actions up against the doctrine for regular purity checks. Incorrect thinking or misspoken words are to be punished. Lockstep uniformity is key.
5. CASH!!! (At least, for the people at the top.)
It's that old-timey religion all right.
Well yeah, I'd agree in general but to me, religion is kinda blind in a lot of ways. Of course there are people who's goals are to make money but they're in the minority. Mostly, religious people actually believe the shit their selling. Their belief is genuine if obviously delusional. With these other crazies the end goal is to make money by doing fuck all. The delusional believers in religion are usually more interested in spreading the word. With this lot, without the freebies and lack of effort (1) they get from inserting themselves into a culture where they were never actually needed they wouldn't have anything so they need to keep the "bad problem - we have the solution" thing (narrative if you will), going because it's all they have.
Religion does actually have a product to sell - it's the history and romance of the Bible (and yes I know all about the bullshit in that book, I read some of it last night in a hotel room - fuck it's boring). These people are trying to divert money from an established "movement" for their own ends, based on nothing but the drama they create. They do. not. have. a. product. They wish they did but they don't so they have to do the most cynical thing.
Actually they seem to be doing ok at the moment. People seem to be falling over themselves to buy.
* They don't seem to put in many solid hours IRL. In fact, their whole M.O. seems to be to put in as few hours as possible. Not to mention that very few of them, if any, have any quals whatsoever that would normally be a prerequisite for any proper speaking job.