He violated the first rule of Atheism Plus forum: not lurking enough!Angry_Drunk wrote:For someone who claims to have lurked here for a year, our new chew-toy Clarence seems oddly ignorant of the goings on. E.g. the provenance of Welch's stupid avatar.
I wished she'd whipped the milkers out - not only does she likely have very nice ones, but it would have been great to see his head explode!Dick Strawkins wrote:I love the following clip that Sam Harris posted recently.
It features Egyptian TV presenter Riham Said facing a islamic cleric and refusing to shut up and listen.
She brings up the subject of sexual abuse of women by clerics and provokes from him a hissy fit worthy of Watson being told she'll have to pay her own bar tab.
[youtube]z2rL6NDoyKg[/youtube]
It is interesting to note the word used by the cleric to describe Rihads challenge of his hypocrisy.
http://i.imgur.com/nGEpbpO.jpg
Full disclosure - I am Ophelia Benson. You are so stupid.Southern wrote:It's a reference to a common FTB assertion, that the Slymepit is really a bunch of Franc Hoggle's (aka "Victor Ivanoff", as they think they doxxed him) sock puppets.Clarence wrote:I can see I'm REALLY going to have to catch up on who this Franc Hoggle guy is. You guys bring him up all the time, but I can remember nothing about him from the original EG brouhaha or as having anything to do with why this site was formed by Erv.Southern wrote:Pff. Everybody knows that the only sock puppets are franc's.Clarence wrote:Whoever that is.it's Eucli's younger brother
Then again, this IS the pit and there are some feminists and probably a few OOLON sock puppets lurking about...
And, as you are discussing with welch and all, I'm pretty sure YOU are a sock puppet of franc hoggle. Ha! Gotcha.
I'll do a googles. I'm not lazy. And I probably knew who he was but forgot. I'm getting old...just turned 42. I plead advanced age or wisdom or something.
And, as Welch (aka "The Wizard Guy", from now on) is usually seen having heated discussions with Franc about... well, everything, and they usually call each other funny names, like you and The Wizard Guy were doing... connect the dots, will ya?
It's all very meta, I know. But let me have some fun in this wretched week, dammit. (Althought I'm sure Oklahoma people are having it much worse; my condolences to you all).
Who said fuck-all about banning? Just pointing out that he's full of shit.Southern wrote:He violated the first rule of Atheism Plus forum: not lurking enough!Angry_Drunk wrote:For someone who claims to have lurked here for a year, our new chew-toy Clarence seems oddly ignorant of the goings on. E.g. the provenance of Welch's stupid avatar.
Call ceepolk to ban him AT ONCE!
... wait...
Interesting point. Why tip-toe around the tulips with this crowd when no matter what you say, they are going to find something to be upset about and misconstrue.Tony Parsehole wrote:When we've seen the baboons twist Ron Lindsay's vanilla WiS speech into a diatribe worthy of a fucking lynch mob demanding he gets sacked from his job I'm surprised anybody is really bothered about being quote-mined.
No lie, bwana! Looks like some people just found a whole bunch of pearls that desperately need clutching...Tony Parsehole wrote:Jesus fucking Christ what has happened to the Pit?
I just sat through a few pages lulzy insults directed at Clarence for having man-tits (and to his favour he took it well) but I didn't see many people denouncing that yet poor, harmless Ophelia, a person who make s a living off dancing in shit and then crying about her smelly feet, gets a daft analogy directed at her and the world is ending.
You said it better.deLurch wrote:Interesting point. Why tip-toe around the tulips with this crowd when no matter what you say, they are going to find something to be upset about and misconstrue.Tony Parsehole wrote:When we've seen the baboons twist Ron Lindsay's vanilla WiS speech into a diatribe worthy of a fucking lynch mob demanding he gets sacked from his job I'm surprised anybody is really bothered about being quote-mined.
Where is this happening? I see most people joining in with Franc. Who I've decided is a cunt.Tony Parsehole wrote:Jesus fucking Christ what has happened to the Pit?
I just sat through a few pages lulzy insults directed at Clarence for having man-tits (and to his favour he took it well) but I didn't see many people denouncing that yet poor, harmless Ophelia, a person who make s a living off dancing in shit and then crying about her smelly feet, gets a daft analogy directed at her and the world is ending.
Speaking only for myself, my comment is just my cheap attempt at collecting the Randi million, so fuck off! It's all MINE! :violin:Lsuoma wrote:No lie, bwana! Looks like some people just found a whole bunch of pearls that desperately need clutching...Tony Parsehole wrote:Jesus fucking Christ what has happened to the Pit?
I just sat through a few pages lulzy insults directed at Clarence for having man-tits (and to his favour he took it well) but I didn't see many people denouncing that yet poor, harmless Ophelia, a person who make s a living off dancing in shit and then crying about her smelly feet, gets a daft analogy directed at her and the world is ending.
I'm a bigger cunt than franc is, even though he has a natural advantage being Strine.Cunning Punt wrote:Where is this happening? I see most people joining in with Franc. Who I've decided is a cunt.Tony Parsehole wrote:Jesus fucking Christ what has happened to the Pit?
I just sat through a few pages lulzy insults directed at Clarence for having man-tits (and to his favour he took it well) but I didn't see many people denouncing that yet poor, harmless Ophelia, a person who make s a living off dancing in shit and then crying about her smelly feet, gets a daft analogy directed at her and the world is ending.
My immediate reaction is you will be back eventually. I hope so anyway.AbsurdWalls wrote:I think I am done with this. Best wishes everyone, and catch you around elsewhere.
I dug up Hitch's corpse and stole his cock. That's the smell if you go down on me. I am woman. Hear me roar.Cunning Punt wrote:Where is this happening? I see most people joining in with Franc. Who I've decided is a cunt.Tony Parsehole wrote:Jesus fucking Christ what has happened to the Pit?
I just sat through a few pages lulzy insults directed at Clarence for having man-tits (and to his favour he took it well) but I didn't see many people denouncing that yet poor, harmless Ophelia, a person who make s a living off dancing in shit and then crying about her smelly feet, gets a daft analogy directed at her and the world is ending.
I could be wrong about the reasons but Absurd Walls has apparently left for good over it.Cunning Punt wrote:Where is this happening? I see most people joining in with Franc. Who I've decided is a cunt.Tony Parsehole wrote:Jesus fucking Christ what has happened to the Pit?
I just sat through a few pages lulzy insults directed at Clarence for having man-tits (and to his favour he took it well) but I didn't see many people denouncing that yet poor, harmless Ophelia, a person who make s a living off dancing in shit and then crying about her smelly feet, gets a daft analogy directed at her and the world is ending.
I think I am done with this. Best wishes everyone, and catch you around elsewhere.
ditto that. It is good to take a break from time to time. My busy season (hopefully) is about to start. May have to take some time off myself just to focus on the business. The Pyt is way to much fun to stay away for long, though. The baboon shit can wear on one, but you guys 'n gals are a blast.AndrewV69 wrote:My immediate reaction is you will be back eventually. I hope so anyway.AbsurdWalls wrote:I think I am done with this. Best wishes everyone, and catch you around elsewhere.
I hope so too. I like Absurd Walls (who seems to add a lot more to the general discussion than me) but I think people will be a lot happier with this place when they realise that everybody who posts here is an individual with their own personal tastes and reasons why they visit.AndrewV69 wrote:My immediate reaction is you will be back eventually. I hope so anyway.AbsurdWalls wrote:I think I am done with this. Best wishes everyone, and catch you around elsewhere.
Shit, stranger give me danger, as the Stooges burbled 40 years ago. If I upset, "why dontcha kiss my sister's black cat's ass" (various Peckinpah movies) - sorry. Move on.Tony Parsehole wrote:I hope so too. I like Absurd Walls (who seems to add a lot more to the general discussion than me) but I think people will be a lot happier with this place when they realise that everybody who posts here is an individual with their own personal tastes and reasons why they visit.AndrewV69 wrote:My immediate reaction is you will be back eventually. I hope so anyway.AbsurdWalls wrote:I think I am done with this. Best wishes everyone, and catch you around elsewhere.
I noticed the slimy turd retweeted that. We all knew Hensley was incompetent already, but then again it's clear the blind man has some bias and had he not been blind, he most likely would have been a member of the fainting couch brigade. It seems CFI may have screwed the pooch when it came to disabled at the conference, though, which he used to his advantage when he criticised Lindsay for criticising Watson. He also seems to use the "disability" card to get some sympathy, because I'm pretty sure there were little short of 300 people attending the conference and the "invisibility" cannot possibly be blamed on just one person.Dick Strawkins wrote:I spotted it on Ally Fogg's twitter feed.Gumby wrote:OMG I just read that blind persons summary of his experience at WiS2. If it really went down that way, Melody comes off as the most insensitive vacuous bitch on the planet. "Yeah I know exactly what it's like to be blind because I once hurt my ankle and couldn't walk up the stairs."
:violin:
Fuck me sideways. You'd think that would teach Hensley to think before she speaks, and that baselessly throwing around accusations of "privilege" is liable to eventually lead to your being nailed to the hypocrisy wall... but something tells me she Just. Won't. Get. It..... and the next time she meets a quadriplegic she'll say "Hey, I know just what you're going through - I had a hangnail once and it was a real oww-eee!
Great find, Dick!
WTF? Did I miss something?AbsurdWalls wrote:I think I am done with this. Best wishes everyone, and catch you around elsewhere.
Seems like AbsurdWalls is pissed about people ragging on FeeFee.Gefan wrote:WTF? Did I miss something?AbsurdWalls wrote:I think I am done with this. Best wishes everyone, and catch you around elsewhere.
And apparently the only person smelling of cigarette smoke.Lsuoma wrote:I'm a bigger cunt than franc is, even though he has a natural advantage being Strine.Cunning Punt wrote:Where is this happening? I see most people joining in with Franc. Who I've decided is a cunt.Tony Parsehole wrote:Jesus fucking Christ what has happened to the Pit?
I just sat through a few pages lulzy insults directed at Clarence for having man-tits (and to his favour he took it well) but I didn't see many people denouncing that yet poor, harmless Ophelia, a person who make s a living off dancing in shit and then crying about her smelly feet, gets a daft analogy directed at her and the world is ending.
1. “I am going to personally see to it that an especially rotten and dribbly dead porcupine is rammed so far up their rectum that they are picking bits of it out of their teeth for the foreseeable future.â€
2. “Fuck ‘em with decayed porcupines and red hot pokers! I’m drunk and I’m priviledged and I’m human thus fallible all hell but fuck those douchcanoes and make it hurt!â€
3. “the porcupines are still located to the left of the door as you leave. Grab on. Shove it where it will do the most good (to the entire world), and then go die in a fire. Slowly.â€
4. “stick a decaying porcupine dipped in hot tar and glass shards up his pustule-covered arse sideways, slowly.â€
5. “Take your fucking sympathies for predators and shove them up your ass and chase them with a dead, rotting porcupine that’s been marinating in capsaicin.â€
6. “You are fucking tiresome and I wish you would shove a rotting porcupine up your ass.â€
7. “May a necrotic porcupine fester, unremovable in your bowels.â€
8. †He should be pounding so many decaying porcupines up his asshole that quills start coming out of his ears.â€
9. “surlyramics made me a custom necklace with a totally cute porcupine and the word “insert†underneath it. I get compliments on it every time I wear it (without even any questions about why the word “insert†is under the porcupine).â€
10. “Surly Amy makes a lovely porcupine necklace now. It’s adorable, and has a one word label: “insertâ€.
That last quote was from PZ Myers himself, promoting the business of one of his friends who was actually selling necklaces featuring the rape threat imagery.
Not that the imagery is confined to brutal bodily violation using porcupines. According to one popular commenter the violation is merely a means to an end.
“You go fuck yourself. Get something heavy and sharp. Die whilst doing it, if possible.†– AnthonyK
The first 10 + 1 porcupine jokes are just that--jokes. If you don't find them funny, then I hope you never watch a Bette Midler movie because it'll only make you angry. (And I don't even know what the fuck he is talking about with that Anthony one. He could have pulled it out of his butt for all I know.
Chicks dig moobs: FACTd4m10n wrote:I hereby denounce the hate directed at Clarence's man boobs. Flaunt what God gave you, Clarence.
1, 2, THWACK! /ENDjjbinx007 wrote:
Now, now..... We're all cunts and we're all EQUAL.Lsuoma wrote: I'm a bigger cunt than franc is
Tony Parsehole wrote:You said it better.deLurch wrote:Interesting point. Why tip-toe around the tulips with this crowd when no matter what you say, they are going to find something to be upset about and misconstrue.Tony Parsehole wrote:When we've seen the baboons twist Ron Lindsay's vanilla WiS speech into a diatribe worthy of a fucking lynch mob demanding he gets sacked from his job I'm surprised anybody is really bothered about being quote-mined.
*We* cannot fucking win the baboons over. Give them flowers and you will be accused of triggering their hay-fever. Send them chocolates and you're being lactose-intolerant-ableist.
I don't know what worrying about the baboon reaction over somebody's choice of insult or preferred vulgarity is supposed to achieve.
#VaculaMustDenounce - Welch being an asshole.nippletwister wrote:Submariner wrote:Hey, I like welch.nippletwister wrote:
Fair enough, and sorry about the "tits" crack. And I don't want to over-interpret, but you do read a bit angry IMO. That could just be from the interaction with Welch, it can do that to people.
Peace.
Oh, I like Welch just fine, I find him entertaining and often right about things he rants on(though I have a few areas of disagreement as well). But not everyone has a good reaction.
I thought Ophelia would've rescinded her membership or affiliation to CFI in light of recent events, but I guess not.Skep tickle wrote:http://www.cfisummit.org/ October 24-27, 2013 in Tacoma WA (USA)
I like the idea of discussion about the overlap & distinct areas of humanism & skepticism. Notice that feminism does not get specific mention (nor should it, IMO) except that it's undoubtedly on their minds (esp in "can (and cannot) work together").Should examination of religious beliefs remain largely off limits for skeptics? Should secular humanists be as critical of fringe science claims, including alternative medicine, as they are of religious beliefs? To what extent do skeptics and humanists have a common mission? Both skeptics and humanists support science and critical thinking—but what else unites them? Are there public policy issues on which skeptics and humanists can productively collaborate?
The best way to answer these questions is to bring skeptics and humanists together to talk about them—and that’s exactly what we’re doing.
On October 24-27, 2013, we’re holding The CFI Summit: a joint conference of the Center for Inquiry and its affiliate organizations, the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry and the Council for Secular Humanism.
...
The Great Debates
The heated battles over church-state separation, the health crisis caused by vaccine misinformation, the threats to our schools from pseudoscience and pseudo-history, the oppression of women and religious dissidents around the world, the countless victims of fraudulent psychics and alt-med practitioners, the growth of the “Nones†and the sociology of belief, and where humanists and skeptics can (and cannot) work together – all of it will be part of the grand discussion at the CFI Summit.
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Special Members Meeting
The CFI Summit will also have a first for CFI. President & CEO Ronald A. Lindsay will host an exclusive Members Meeting, a chance for CFI Friends of the Center and Associate Members of CSH or CSI to join in conversation with organization leadership. Members will be able to weigh in on what they see as the best way forward for our movement, and how our organizations can best work together to achieve those goals.
I'm going to try to go. Especially since I've now joined CFI & can be in on the Members Meeting part of it, can add a voice.
Quite a few speakers are listed, including several from the Pacific NW, including (currently) Harriet Hall and Ophelia Benson.
#VaculaMustDenounce - Vacula's shitty sense of humor.Dick Strawkins wrote:The #vaculamustdenounce twitter hashtag was funny for a while, but it's getting ruined by Vacula spamming it to death.
Vacula, it's meant to be for jokes.
You are just not funny enough! :shifty:
Involved in stochastic terrorism again, Franc?franc wrote:When I was about 13, a neighbour had a dog that was half dead, a ~15yo boxer. It used to pace in circles in the yard, yelping and growling. It would stop occasionally to bark at the same space of non-descript wall as though there was a burglar. Then it would resume pacing.
That dog is Ophelia Benson. If you had mercy, you would shoot it.
Previously, I've criticized Peezus' lack of productive research.jjbinx007 wrote:
So now Lindsay is a "thug in a cheap suit?" :think: Charming.jjbinx007 wrote:PZ rushes to write a blog post to make fun of Ron Lindsay's twitter exchange with him:
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... an-rights/
I notice he didn't tackle the "witless wanker" comment.
I agree, although we know where this is going to go.........Aneris wrote:I feel there are some here, that would like us to level up a little. In that regard, I also reject picking on Ophelia Benson or other people just for the sake of it or based on some superficial reason (appearance, gender, or whatever). I also think that this would be consistent what we have been saying all the time.
franc wrote:I mine myself. If you know different, cough it up.dogen wrote:Wow, quotemine target much?franc wrote:When I was about 13, a neighbour had a dog that was half dead, a ~15yo boxer. It used to pace in circles in the yard, yelping and growling. It would stop occasionally to bark at the same space of non-descript wall as though there was a burglar. Then it would resume pacing.
That dog is Ophelia Benson. If you had mercy, you would shoot it.
There, I did the work for her. You may thank me later, Ophelia (preferably sending me some % of all those victim dollas you got, I really need a tablet, you see...)Franc Hoggle (aka Victor Ivanoff), proeminent Slymepitter wrote: When I (...) shoot (...) Ophelia Benson (...) dead (...) 15yo (...) growling (...)
Clarence's tits? :DCunning Punt wrote:I agree, although we know where this is going to go.........Aneris wrote:I feel there are some here, that would like us to level up a little. In that regard, I also reject picking on Ophelia Benson or other people just for the sake of it or based on some superficial reason (appearance, gender, or whatever). I also think that this would be consistent what we have been saying all the time.
Clearly, Lindsay must be a thug since Peezus was apparently too terrified to even squeak at him in person.Apples wrote:So now Lindsay is a "thug in a cheap suit?" :think: Charming.jjbinx007 wrote:PZ rushes to write a blog post to make fun of Ron Lindsay's twitter exchange with him:
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... an-rights/
I notice he didn't tackle the "witless wanker" comment.
I don't know about you, but seeing as it's translated by MEMRI I'd like a second opinion. Then again, I DO love the spu- er, spi- er, CONVICTION of this woman and if the translation is accurate, stood up for herself. Right on!Trophy wrote:Also, note that as soon as she removed the scarf, the cleric looked the other way and continued to talk to the "wall". Typical Muslim male asshole/fundi behavior.zenbabe wrote:Oooh that was fun. I like how she said that she wore her scarf for god, not for HIM (the cleric) and his demands, demands which he wanted to enforce only when they were on the air, a hypocrisy she instantly confronted him on. Love that she called him out for having to be paid to be interviewed, love that she wouldn't back down, love that -she- ended the interview.Dick Strawkins wrote:I love the following clip that Sam Harris posted recently.
It features Egyptian TV presenter Riham Said facing a islamic cleric and refusing to shut up and listen.
She brings up the subject of sexual abuse of women by clerics and provokes from him a hissy fit worthy of Watson being told she'll have to pay her own bar tab.
[youtube]z2rL6NDoyKg[/youtube]
It is interesting to note the word used by the cleric to describe Rihads challenge of his hypocrisy.
His reactions were very interesting. Not only that he kept claiming harassment but also that he repeatedly threatened to sue the station and shut them down. "If you don't behave the way I demand and act the way I demand I am going to delete you". The parallels with the way PZ et al react when their hypocrisy is exposed and their behaviors are criticized are striking.
But by all means, CSI etc, keep giving them the microphone and paying their expenses for conferences. Just don't wear the scarf if they demand it.
Fap, fap, fap...Tony Parsehole wrote:Clarence's tits? :DCunning Punt wrote:I agree, although we know where this is going to go.........Aneris wrote:I feel there are some here, that would like us to level up a little. In that regard, I also reject picking on Ophelia Benson or other people just for the sake of it or based on some superficial reason (appearance, gender, or whatever). I also think that this would be consistent what we have been saying all the time.
Don't you mean flap, flap, flap.Lsuoma wrote:Fap, fap, fap...Tony Parsehole wrote:Clarence's tits? :DCunning Punt wrote:I agree, although we know where this is going to go.........Aneris wrote:I feel there are some here, that would like us to level up a little. In that regard, I also reject picking on Ophelia Benson or other people just for the sake of it or based on some superficial reason (appearance, gender, or whatever). I also think that this would be consistent what we have been saying all the time.
I don't do Twitter so I don't understand this exchange. Is Peezus just posting the same inane question over and over or is Lindsay just posting multiple responses to the one time posting by Peezus?jjbinx007 wrote:
I'd have loved it if PZ had replied that 'witless wanker' is fine, as there's no splash damage.katamari Damassi wrote: I don't do Twitter so I don't understand this exchange. Is Peezus just posting the same inane question over and over or is Lindsay just posting multiple responses to the one time posting by Peezus?
PZ posted the question once, Ron replied several times.katamari Damassi wrote: I don't do Twitter so I don't understand this exchange. Is Peezus just posting the same inane question over and over or is Lindsay just posting multiple responses to the one time posting by Peezus?
And /1 , /2 etc. indicate more is coming (until you end with /end). Due to the 140 character limit on Twitter (which is both a bane and virtue of the medium).jjbinx007 wrote:PZ posted the question once, Ron replied several times.katamari Damassi wrote: I don't do Twitter so I don't understand this exchange. Is Peezus just posting the same inane question over and over or is Lindsay just posting multiple responses to the one time posting by Peezus?
Due to the way this forum embeds tweets it showed PZ's question each time.
Get a room, you two!Cunning Punt wrote:I don't get it either. On twitter.com it looks like the same question being repeated but that might be the way the software displays replies.
On a related matter, it looks like Lindsay and Benson are getting together for a convo. You know, the kind that Vacula wants to have.
I definitely get what you're saying, and agree to a point. But it presupposes that the Pit is an organization with actual goals, and not just a place to hang out for people who are sick to death of oversensitive cunts, and just want to throw out the occasional dead-baby joke without being labelled a Suppressive Person.Aneris wrote:I feel there are some here, that would like us to level up a little. In that regard, I also reject picking on Ophelia Benson or other people just for the sake of it or based on some superficial reason (appearance, gender, or whatever). I also think that this would be consistent what we have been saying all the time.
Quite right.Tigzy wrote:I'd have loved it if PZ had replied that 'witless wanker' is fine, as there's no splash damage.katamari Damassi wrote: I don't do Twitter so I don't understand this exchange. Is Peezus just posting the same inane question over and over or is Lindsay just posting multiple responses to the one time posting by Peezus?
[youtube]TMnR1PUoa14[/youtube]Cunning Punt wrote:I agree, although we know where this is going to go.........Aneris wrote:I feel there are some here, that would like us to level up a little. In that regard, I also reject picking on Ophelia Benson or other people just for the sake of it or based on some superficial reason (appearance, gender, or whatever). I also think that this would be consistent what we have been saying all the time.
butEdwardGemmer wrote:PZ can't stand free speech because human beings he doesn't like may get to say something. Since that is essentially %97 of human beings alive on the planet, it seems like a limiting philosophy.
Q:What's the difference between a wagon-load of sand and a wagon-load of babies?bovarchist wrote:I definitely get what you're saying, and agree to a point. But it presupposes that the Pit is an organization with actual goals, and not just a place to hang out for people who are sick to death of oversensitive cunts, and just want to throw out the occasional dead-baby joke without being labelled a Suppressive Person.Aneris wrote:I feel there are some here, that would like us to level up a little. In that regard, I also reject picking on Ophelia Benson or other people just for the sake of it or based on some superficial reason (appearance, gender, or whatever). I also think that this would be consistent what we have been saying all the time.
That said, we really need our dead-baby jokes to be better, people.
