Steersman wrote:Looking like a whole pile of “he said; she saidâ€. I realize that, to coin a phrase, you have to break a few eggs to make an omelette, but I can’t say that all of the drama is really helping all that much, except maybe to bring things to a head.d4m10n wrote:What the actual fuck? I'm totes hiding my identity here in the 'Pit. No one will ever figure out that “D4M10N†is actually “DAMION†(elite uncrackable code!) or be clever enough to click the links in my sig, or realise that I'm using the same damned profile pic in every fucking forum. I'm a fucking master of disguise, you guys.Hunt wrote:I like this part of Swan's post:On January 22, I sent a four-and-a-half-page letter to Ron Lindsay. Four pages of that letter (plus an additional 11 pdfs) documented the parts of the policy on hostile conduct that Vacula had already declared open contempt for, both with respect to speakers at the conference, potential attendees, the conference itself, and secular conferences in general. Unlike Reinhardt, I’m perfectly comfortable putting my own name on my work.
Oh and as to *hostile* conduct, there is exactly zero evidence that JV has threatened anyone, unlike, say, Francisco B., Greg L., Josh S., or any of the other frenzied wielders of porcupines and torches. Not to mention their unsubtle threats of employer-doxxing directed at Abbie and Mykeru. The sheer chutzpah on these guys could power a wind-farm for a year.
However, it would be nice to know precisely what evidence Zvan has for that supposed “hostile conduct†and “open contempt†that Justin is supposedly guilty of. One hopes that Lindsay in effect laughed in her face on viewing that “evidenceâ€.
But I really have to wonder at her “updateâ€:
Apart from wondering how she would have known that Spokesgay and company were “non-attendees†some 4 months ago, one has to ask whether she knows how many people they retweeted, e-mailed, posted, gossiped, or otherwise communicated that message to - speaking of "stochastic terrorism". As for her last sentence – which really doesn’t scan all that well – one has to assume she means Melody who didn’t seem particularly sympathetic to Justin’s right to be at that conference. One might reasonably wonder how Lindsay would view actions that don't look all that "impartial".Update #2: Reinhardt has posted this “solicitationâ€. Apparently one solicits attendees to complain by mentioning to two non-attendees and the conference organizer in a side conversation most people will never see that if speakers and attendees had concerns that it would be better they be made before Vacula raised a bunch of money and bought his ticket. One does not broadcast said solicitation to, say, people in an actual position to make a complaint.
Although I have to wonder at this as well:
Out of curiousity and as a point of reference, did you do so and what evidence did you have if you did?Also contrary to the story Reinhardt is telling, I didn’t ask for Vacula to be banned. Here’s the last half page of my letter:
It would help steffy a lot if she wasn't so dishonest about so many things.