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http://freethoughtblogs.com/zinniajones ... -napoleon/
Saying you’re a woman is not an outlandish claim to make.
It is if you've got two balls and a dick between your legs.

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Now Stefunny Zvan's playing lawyer as regards the Vacula-Amy_DMCA thing: http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... righteous/

Even goes so far as to attempt to put the shits up Justin:
I don’t have much regard for Vacula, but even I feel a tiny bit sorry for what’s likely to happen to him if Amy decides to follow through on this. Federal perjury charges are no game. Nor are Los Angeles attorneys who deal in intellectual property cheap (making now a lovely time to buy that Surly-Ramics piece you’ve been looking at). Vacula’s likely cost himself a lot with this mistake.
Course, given Zvan's previous inability to differentiate between the concepts of damage and change, I think her legal knowledge can be taken with a grain of salt. Fair Use law as regards the internet is nowhere near as clear-cut as she seems to think. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use#F ... e_Internet

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cunt wrote:http://freethoughtblogs.com/zinniajones ... -napoleon/
Saying you’re a woman is not an outlandish claim to make.
It is if you've got two balls and a dick between your legs.
Unless she's having a shag at the time.

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Tigzy wrote:
cunt wrote:http://freethoughtblogs.com/zinniajones ... -napoleon/
Saying you’re a woman is not an outlandish claim to make.
It is if you've got two balls and a dick between your legs.
Unless she's having a shag at the time.
Damn - beat me to it. I was going to say "it depends on which way they're facing - in or out!" :dance:

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cunt wrote:http://freethoughtblogs.com/zinniajones ... -napoleon/
Saying you’re a woman is not an outlandish claim to make.
It is if you've got two balls and a dick between your legs.
Certainly seemed to be the case in gran-pappy’s days, but the waters seem to have muddied since then. For instance:
Wikipedia, Gender Verification wrote:While it would seem a simple case of checking for XX vs. XY chromosomes to determine whether an athlete is a woman or a man, it is not that simple. Fetuses start out as undifferentiated, and the Y chromosome turns on a variety of hormones that differentiate the baby as a male. Sometimes this does not occur, and people with two X chromosomes can develop hormonally as a male, and people with an X and a Y can develop hormonally as a female.
I’ve always had some sympathy for Oscar Wilde’s aphorism on being asked by a woman for the primary difference between the sexes: “Of that madam – I can not conceive”. Suitably succinct and pithy, but tends to leave a whole bunch of people out in the cold. Best, I think, to realize that each sex is a spectrum with quite a bit of overlap ....

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Tigzy wrote:Now Stefunny Zvan's playing lawyer as regards the Vacula-Amy_DMCA thing: http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... righteous/

Even goes so far as to attempt to put the shits up Justin:
I don’t have much regard for Vacula, but even I feel a tiny bit sorry for what’s likely to happen to him if Amy decides to follow through on this. Federal perjury charges are no game. Nor are Los Angeles attorneys who deal in intellectual property cheap (making now a lovely time to buy that Surly-Ramics piece you’ve been looking at). Vacula’s likely cost himself a lot with this mistake.
Course, given Zvan's previous inability to differentiate between the concepts of damage and change, I think her legal knowledge can be taken with a grain of salt. Fair Use law as regards the internet is nowhere near as clear-cut as she seems to think. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use#F ... e_Internet
Ah, yes, Legal Expert (especially on "Cyber-Stalking") Stefunny. I think she works at the law firm of Dewey, Cheatum and Howe. I do see that Hannibal is there, probably trolling (assuming this is the same one who was trolling Sally at TF). Lulz must ensue.

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Dilurk wrote:
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I bet he has big ones too.
Heheh. This is JohnTheOther, a real live MRA, and arch enemy of PeaZy. The more rationally and calmly that John speaks, the more into a rage PZ gets. It's very amusing whenever PZ freaks out about him. I'd link to a couple old articles where PZ has temper tantrums about him, but I wouldn't know where to begin to look.

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franc wrote: Perhaps. Perhaps a copy-n-paste party. Unless TF coughs up logs, chances of knowing truth is nil. Writing a coherent 50 word reply in 60 seconds is not an easy task even for non-baboons. And the bit about advertising to the world she finally has a job...
That is a possibility. Type out the first post and use the incognito mode on a chrome browser to make the troll post then send them both simultaneously and have a reply ready in notepad to cut and paste. I am not saying that something like this did not happen, but it seems a little to sophisticated and if she was going to go to so much trouble creating this plan to make drama I think she would have realised that she does not need to have the reply to the troll post ready to go. Maybe a friend made the troll post and she had already seen it before it was sent so she had time to mentally compose a response.
I am thinking she was feeding an obvious troll. As soon as she started posting the possibility of a troll appearing was high. As for her typing speed, some of her other responses on the board were quite snappy and I don't think she is slow witted. /speculation
Impossible to tell from this angle.

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Steersman wrote:
cunt wrote:http://freethoughtblogs.com/zinniajones ... -napoleon/
Saying you’re a woman is not an outlandish claim to make.
It is if you've got two balls and a dick between your legs.
Certainly seemed to be the case in gran-pappy’s days, but the waters seem to have muddied since then. For instance:
Wikipedia, Gender Verification wrote:While it would seem a simple case of checking for XX vs. XY chromosomes to determine whether an athlete is a woman or a man, it is not that simple. Fetuses start out as undifferentiated, and the Y chromosome turns on a variety of hormones that differentiate the baby as a male. Sometimes this does not occur, and people with two X chromosomes can develop hormonally as a male, and people with an X and a Y can develop hormonally as a female.
I’ve always had some sympathy for Oscar Wilde’s aphorism on being asked by a woman for the primary difference between the sexes: “Of that madam – I can not conceive”. Suitably succinct and pithy, but tends to leave a whole bunch of people out in the cold. Best, I think, to realize that each sex is a spectrum with quite a bit of overlap ....
Then don't use chromosomes. Why not go with the morphology? Pretty simple then.

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franc wrote:That's because they are too cowardly to say I am Keyser Söze.
I knew it! It's almost like the writing was on the wall.

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justinvacula wrote:http://i.imgur.com/uOGBu.jpg
Amet's hilarious sometimes. Those have me LOLing. :)

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franc wrote:Seeing as detox/rehab was a recent topic - it reminds me of the crap they used to make in forced craft sessions that were part of the "healing" regime.
In older times, they used basket weaving. I think they stopped due it becoming associated with mental health. In the late 80s, a hospitalized friend made me a rather rough leather wallet during her 'art therapy' time. As a distraction, just something to do while confined to a treatment place, it's all fine, but when it's claimed as therapy, I smell pseudoscientific woo without anything too solid behind it.

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rayshul wrote:I mean these are people who sat there dumbly while that Sikivu woman talked about the four horsemen's white supremacist bullshit.

It's *not* radfeminism. It's all SJW.
I agree, although I think that radfeminism is a majority part as far as which social justices they usually fight. And for the most part, they are not the most extreme type of radfems, the separatists.

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Badger3k wrote: Ah, yes, Legal Expert (especially on "Cyber-Stalking") Stefunny. I think she works at the law firm of Dewey, Cheatum and Howe. I do see that Hannibal is there, probably trolling (assuming this is the same one who was trolling Sally at TF). Lulz must ensue.
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August 17, 2012 at 12:45 pm

WOAH! He used a photo of a pendant? Shit just got real….

Amy needs to get a life. This shit is blatantly fair use.
:lol:

But alas, it looks like Stefunny was quick to ban him: http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... ent-109666

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Steersman wrote:
cunt wrote:http://freethoughtblogs.com/zinniajones ... -napoleon/
Wikipedia, Gender Verification wrote:While it would seem a simple case of checking for XX vs. XY chromosomes to determine whether an athlete is a woman or a man, it is not that simple. Fetuses start out as undifferentiated, and the Y chromosome turns on a variety of hormones that differentiate the baby as a male. Sometimes this does not occur, and people with two X chromosomes can develop hormonally as a male, and people with an X and a Y can develop hormonally as a female.
I’ve always had some sympathy for Oscar Wilde’s aphorism on being asked by a woman for the primary difference between the sexes: “Of that madam – I can not conceive”. Suitably succinct and pithy, but tends to leave a whole bunch of people out in the cold. Best, I think, to realize that each sex is a spectrum with quite a bit of overlap ....
Agreed, and just to be clear I have a huge amount of empathy for people dealing with issues like that. It crosses a line for me when people insist upon how they are to be treated and what other people must think of them.

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Tigzy wrote:But alas, it looks like Stefunny was quick to ban him: http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... ent-109666
And the other commenters are still arguing against him, posing 'difficult' questions. What's the point if he can't respond?

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Well Jean is entitled to her opinion but Ophelia's actions at the time were nothing like the Ophelia we see today (apart from the obsessive freaking out about being called names by trolls) and Jeans action in supporting the Tom Johnson story, even when it's author was shown to be a liar, were not exactly the example of moral perfection.
Jean said the "Tom Johnson" story was "doubtful but not disconfirmed" suggesting that stuff like this does happen. Ophelia was a different person back then. http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com ... ment-35355

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Notung wrote:
Tigzy wrote:But alas, it looks like Stefunny was quick to ban him: http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... ent-109666
And the other commenters are still arguing against him, posing 'difficult' questions. What's the point if he can't respond?
So they can feel superior? Having the last word is part of a lot of people, and some want to respond and make a statement of their views, even though no reply will come. The comment after Stefunny's "bye" shows that at least some don't even read Justin's posts, just make assumptions.

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Guest wrote:
Well Jean is entitled to her opinion but Ophelia's actions at the time were nothing like the Ophelia we see today (apart from the obsessive freaking out about being called names by trolls) and Jeans action in supporting the Tom Johnson story, even when it's author was shown to be a liar, were not exactly the example of moral perfection.
Jean said the "Tom Johnson" story was "doubtful but not disconfirmed" suggesting that stuff like this does happen. Ophelia was a different person back then. http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com ... ment-35355
I just realized the comparisons between the two occurrences - "Tom" was talking about getting harassed by atheists, and so do the Skepchicks and their groupies. Both have the same amount of evidence (well, I think there were a few cases that have been confirmed, so their is a bit more evidence for the sexism bit, but it's blown way out of proportion). Does this make PZ the Chris Mooney of Watsongate?

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decius wrote:
Steersman is a pompous windbag and a cunt.
Amen

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Badger3k wrote:
Steersman wrote:
cunt wrote:http://freethoughtblogs.com/zinniajones ... -napoleon/
Saying you’re a woman is not an outlandish claim to make.
It is if you've got two balls and a dick between your legs.
Certainly seemed to be the case in gran-pappy’s days, but the waters seem to have muddied since then. For instance:
Wikipedia, Gender Verification wrote:While it would seem a simple case of checking for XX vs. XY chromosomes to determine whether an athlete is a woman or a man, it is not that simple. Fetuses start out as undifferentiated, and the Y chromosome turns on a variety of hormones that differentiate the baby as a male. Sometimes this does not occur, and people with two X chromosomes can develop hormonally as a male, and people with an X and a Y can develop hormonally as a female.
I’ve always had some sympathy for Oscar Wilde’s aphorism on being asked by a woman for the primary difference between the sexes: “Of that madam – I can not conceive”. Suitably succinct and pithy, but tends to leave a whole bunch of people out in the cold. Best, I think, to realize that each sex is a spectrum with quite a bit of overlap ....
Then don't use chromosomes. Why not go with the morphology? Pretty simple then.
Tempting, but probably because the morphology really is a fully populated spectrum – somewhat arbitrary then where the line is drawn. For instance, as an extreme case, maybe somewhat hypothetical, it seems a “woman” can have XX and a certain set of attributes while a “man” can have XY and virtually the same set of attributes. Not an easy thing to define as suggested by this from the same article:
Nowadays, gender verification tests typically involve evaluation by gynecologists, endocrinologists, psychologists, and internal medicine specialists.
And with psychologists involved? What the hell does it mean to talk of how men and women feel about anything? Normal within one or two standard (or not so standard) deviations? Chasing our tails in more ways than one.

But that’s why it seems to be tempting to simply rely, as I did, on the chromosomes – nice, neat, clearly defined line in the sand. Although I gather that even in that area there are other factors in play as, apparently, it is only a portion of the Y chromosome that manifests various male attributes.

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Mooney et. al. were attempting to allege that there is a real problem in the atheist community in regards to outspoken atheists being rude and insulting friendly religious people willy nilly... just as Watson et. al. are attempting to paint a picture of a cabal of evil misogynist atheists trying to "put women in their place". There are lots of stories, but no substance; anecdotes are elevated to evidence used to tar a group of individuals (atheists) that are already much maligned by the general public.

In both cases a group of people see themselves as crusaders against some nebulous evil that doesn't seem to exist to any significant extent. In both cases, the actions of internet trolls were confused and/or intertwined with bigger names in atheism. Just as Jerry Coyne "became" the catalyst for rude atheists in Tom Johnson Stories, DJ Grothe,ThunderfOOt etc. are to be blamed for the "thousands of rape threats" directed at Skepchicks and all other offenses and perceived "misogyny" focused on those associated with FTB.

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bhoytony wrote:
decius wrote:
Steersman is a pompous windbag and a cunt.
Amen
Ah, I’m cut to the quick. Ask of me tomorrow and you will find me a grave man ....

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Steersman wrote:
bhoytony wrote:
decius wrote:
Steersman is a pompous windbag and a cunt.
Amen
Ah, I’m cut to the quick. Ask of me tomorrow and you will find me a grave man ....
Pompous windbag is pompous

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John Greg wrote:
Kazez is extremely inconsistent. Sometimes she seems highly reasonable and rational; at other times she is almost indistinguishable from a full rank Baboolie.
Good to see that my bullshit detector is functioning; was having doubts. A few months back she wrote a comment which set the alarm bells ringing. To paraphrase, she said something along the lines of "There's a men's right's movement, the thought makes me want to vomit". Philosopher my arse!

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bhoytony wrote:
Steersman wrote:
bhoytony wrote:
decius wrote:
Steersman is a pompous windbag and a cunt.
Amen
Ah, I’m cut to the quick. Ask of me tomorrow and you will find me a grave man ....
Pompous windbag is pompous
“Pedantic” might be more appropriate, but you might want to clear that with MKG before proceeding ...

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Sorry for the lack of activity. My laptop is broken and I have now ordered a new one. I am using a really, really, really shitty computer now. My mobile phone also limits me. I hope to catch up on things soon. I see Stephanie's post and may respond. Now, though, I am working on a guest post for AVoiceForMen on this shit computer.

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TFJ wrote:To paraphrase, she said something along the lines of "There's a men's right's movement, the thought makes me want to vomit". Philosopher my arse!
Yeah, I don't understand why people object to simply having a Men's Rights Movement [Disclaimer: I'm not an MRA myself]. Perhaps they could point out that MRAs are sometimes bad, or usually bad, or even always bad, but that wouldn't mean that just having an MRM is a bad idea.

The only argument I can think for that opinion is that women have it worse. I'm prepared to agree with that (I haven't studied it but it's the respectable position). But so what? All that proves is that feminism is a more pressing issue than 'masculism' or whatever. That doesn't mean that at least some people shouldn't try to ensure that men aren't discriminated against on certain issues. Just because some people have it worse, that doesn't mean that you shouldn't try to fix something (where have you heard that before?).

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Steersman wrote:
bhoytony wrote:
decius wrote:
Steersman is a pompous windbag and a cunt.
Amen
Ah, I’m cut to the quick. Ask of me tomorrow and you will find me a grave man ....
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Having just defended MRAs (sort of):
justinvacula wrote:...I am working on a guest post for AVoiceForMen...
Er... is that a good idea?

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Steersman wrote:
bhoytony wrote:
Steersman wrote:
bhoytony wrote:
decius wrote:
Steersman is a pompous windbag and a cunt.
Amen
Ah, I’m cut to the quick. Ask of me tomorrow and you will find me a grave man ....
Pompous windbag is pompous
“Pedantic” might be more appropriate, but you might want to clear that with MKG before proceeding ...
Pompous windbag is pompous.

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TFJ wrote:John Greg wrote:
Kazez is extremely inconsistent. Sometimes she seems highly reasonable and rational; at other times she is almost indistinguishable from a full rank Baboolie.
Good to see that my bullshit detector is functioning; was having doubts. A few months back she wrote a comment which set the alarm bells ringing. To paraphrase, she said something along the lines of "There's a men's right's movement, the thought makes me want to vomit". Philosopher my arse!
If this isn’t exactly what you’re getting at, it certainly seems rather close to the bulls-eye:
Jean Kazez wrote:A little note about the men's rights movement (in response to someone way up): I instinctively gag at the thought, but I'm curious about it. David Benatar has a new book coming out very soon called "The Second Sexism" and I mean to have a look. In fact, it's on my radar as a book we will want to review at The Philosophers' Magazine.

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Ok - uncharitable reading of Kazez, but you could say what I said in response to her real comment as well. Why the instinctive gag?

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bhoytony wrote:
bhoytony wrote: ...
Pompous windbag is pompous
Pompous windbag is pompous.
You have another string on that fiddle? ....

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Steersman wrote:
If this isn’t exactly what you’re getting at, it certainly seems rather close to the bulls-eye:

Jean Kazez wrote:
A little note about the men's rights movement (in response to someone way up): I instinctively gag at the thought, but I'm curious about it. David Benatar has a new book coming out very soon called "The Second Sexism" and I mean to have a look. In fact, it's on my radar as a book we will want to review at The Philosophers' Magazine.
Not sure if that is the quote I was thinking of. Searched but couldn't find it. My recollection may well be off, in which case my apologies to Kazez. I do find her knee-jerk, shallow antipathy to Justin to be a bit silly. She should stick to commenting on the generalities if she is unwilling to educate herself on the history surrounding individuals.

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Notung wrote:Ok - uncharitable reading of Kazez, but you could say what I said in response to her real comment as well. Why the instinctive gag?
Assuming that that was more or less directed at me, I might point to something in that article:
Elevator-gate made me see the atheist-crowd in a new light. I realized there wasn't just a possible tone problem in the atheosphere, but there were a lot of problems. For one, there are a lot of misogynistic loons. They say amazingly absurd and revolting things, and there are some fairly respectable people who give these people safe harbour. For another, there are people on the respectable feminist side who simplistically [use, champion] "us-them" situations, sweeping complexities under the rug. There's no way for me to position myself with respect to this mess, because I'm against the misogynistic loons, but also against the simplifications of the supposedly feminist side. So--STAY AWAY!
So presumably her “instinctive gag” was based on a conflation of “misogynistic loons” with “Men’s Rights Activists”. Maybe a case of some problematic categorical thinking which, one might think, should be the last thing a philosopher should be guilty of.

Although I note that she forthrightly identified the problem of:
... people on the respectable [quote, unquote] feminist side who simplistically [use, champion] "us-them" situations, sweeping complexities under the rug.
Which probably didn’t win her many friends on the Skepchick and FTB side of the fence ....

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Yes, I think she's mainly on 'our side' but disagrees with a lot of the stuff that is also on 'our side'. That could apply to other people too - for instance Russell Blackford doesn't like a certain 'c' word and D4M10N agrees with RW on elevatorgate...

I think I'm a similar case. Sometimes I see things on Twitter from 'our side' that make me shake my head.

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

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Notung wrote:Having just defended MRAs (sort of):
justinvacula wrote:...I am working on a guest post for AVoiceForMen...
Er... is that a good idea?
I don't identify as an MRA or necessarily agree with all of their views. A Guest post give my views, not theirs. Their audience is interested and I would like to make more people aware of this issue (especially if it actually does go to court as Zvan alludes to, but I doubt it will and hope it does not because that's just flat out ridiculous.)

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

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Tigzy wrote:
Badger3k wrote: Ah, yes, Legal Expert (especially on "Cyber-Stalking") Stefunny. I think she works at the law firm of Dewey, Cheatum and Howe. I do see that Hannibal is there, probably trolling (assuming this is the same one who was trolling Sally at TF). Lulz must ensue.
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August 17, 2012 at 12:45 pm

WOAH! He used a photo of a pendant? Shit just got real….

Amy needs to get a life. This shit is blatantly fair use.
:lol:

But alas, it looks like Stefunny was quick to ban him: http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... ent-109666
Well, I can't say I am surprised. Stephanie Zvan fails to rebuke those who use DMCA claims which lead to censorship. At least she provided links to my posts and used my name unlike 'Canuck.' Will one Freethought Blogs blogger defend me and rebuke persons for filing DMCA claims at their critics? Whether you love me, hate me, or are indifferent, DMCA filing is repugnant. ...and is 'Surly Amy' really going to take me to court because I used a photo? Honestly?

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

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justinvacula wrote:I don't identify as an MRA or necessarily agree with all of their views. A Guest post give my views, not theirs. Their audience is interested and I would like to make more people aware of this issue (especially if it actually does go to court as Zvan alludes to, but I doubt it will and hope it does not because that's just flat out ridiculous.)
I know all of those things, but I wonder if it might look like a blemish on your record. Of course, posting on an MRA site (and I do think there's some misogyny there, even if Astrokid disagrees) doesn't make you an MRA, but if I didn't know better and saw that you'd written an article on there, it would look as if you are an MRA and a participant in the sort of misogyny that goes on there. You aren't, of course.

I'm not saying don't do it - I'm saying be careful that it isn't used against you. Perhaps say at the beginning (without being nasty to the MRAs) that you're not an MRA yourself, or something like that.

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Michael K Gray wrote:
Tigzy wrote:
justinvacula wrote: I'd say it was a pretty questionable thing to do, considering that a good number of us here would probably be up in arms if a baboon posted the address of a Slymepitter on FfTB or Skepchick.
I, for one, would not be 'up in arms' nor 'down in legs'.

If it is public, it is FUCKING PUBLIC!!!

An 8 year old could find this info on their mobile during a gymnastic vaulting-session without breaking a sweat!
(Only taking a break to distribute ze dirt around ze compound, ja?)

Oh, puulleze, as they say.
Well, I'd argue it's public but making it available so easily on an open forum might be bad form. Lousy Jason did the same thing, basically, and we kind of nailed him for it.
PZ did the same thing when in his last couple of Thunderf00t posts, he made a point to use TF's real name. Even though TF's real name is fairly common knowledge by now, there was no good reason for PZ to start using it, other than as a way to be a dick and to attempt to make TF uncomfortable. I'm with you on this issue. What Justin Vacula did was completely unnecessary and somewhat petty imo.

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

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Notung wrote:I think Justin posting that address is a bit like Myers using 'Phil Mason'. The info is out there, but even so it's probably best not to post it.
As usual someone beats me to it.

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

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Justin you must be in lala land if you think fftb would blog about this rationally. Canuck and steffunny are hilarious, what they are doing is so transparent, who is up next in the relay they organised, ophelia is my guess, with a moral outrage post.

Amy is shitting herself, because her bluff has been called, and imagine the situation where she was required to post a video retraction to stop prosecution for malicous dmca claims. That is what they are terrified of, having to admit being in the wrong, how can they ever be they've got god on their side, their whole world might fall apart.

That's why funnyban is playing lawyer, lol." Ohhhh you better stop now or you'll be in big trouble!" comical fucking comical.

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

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justinvacula wrote:
Tigzy wrote:
Badger3k wrote: Ah, yes, Legal Expert (especially on "Cyber-Stalking") Stefunny. I think she works at the law firm of Dewey, Cheatum and Howe. I do see that Hannibal is there, probably trolling (assuming this is the same one who was trolling Sally at TF). Lulz must ensue.
hannanibal says:
August 17, 2012 at 12:45 pm

WOAH! He used a photo of a pendant? Shit just got real….

Amy needs to get a life. This shit is blatantly fair use.
:lol:

But alas, it looks like Stefunny was quick to ban him: http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... ent-109666
Well, I can't say I am surprised. Stephanie Zvan fails to rebuke those who use DMCA claims which lead to censorship. At least she provided links to my posts and used my name unlike 'Canuck.' Will one Freethought Blogs blogger defend me and rebuke persons for filing DMCA claims at their critics? Whether you love me, hate me, or are indifferent, DMCA filing is repugnant. ...and is 'Surly Amy' really going to take me to court because I used a photo? Honestly?
Seems to me that Stephanie Zvan made a credible case based on the “Copyright Crash Course” she linked to against your use of that photo. Whatever merits there may be in the post in which that photo was used, it would seem to be rather dicey to argue that it was “fair use”.

I’ll agree that DMCA use can be repugnant, but not necessarily so. But it might help matters, at least in the Girl Writes What case, if people using that method have to identify themselves rather than doing it anonymously ....

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

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Have any of you guys seens this insanity on Twitter. It ends with Opheliar saying linking the term "virulent" with "feminism" (even a certain type of feminism as specified) is "misogynist.
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Marcotte is a fuckwit.

What has the pussy riot case got to do with feminism? What because they have tits? The pussy riot case is all about the right to protest, offend! and free speech, something benson marcotte and the rest of the fftb fuckwits oppose.

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

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hyperdeath says:
August 17, 2012 at 3:14 pm
hannanibal doesn’t seem to have grasped the fact that a burning sense of indignation is not a sufficient basis for a case.
Oh the fucking irony.

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

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cunt wrote:
hyperdeath says:
August 17, 2012 at 3:14 pm
hannanibal doesn’t seem to have grasped the fact that a burning sense of indignation is not a sufficient basis for a case.
Oh the fucking irony.
FTBers are so self-unaware it's funny. Mirrors do not exist in their hermetically-sealed little world.

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Here's a bit of intellectualism courtesy of Stephanie Zwan
there’s a reason people almost never file counter-notices unless advised to by an attorney. You don’t have to just be sincere in thinking you have the right to use the image. You have to be right.
She actually thinks that you will be done for perjury if it the court decides against you.

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

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Post by John Greg »

LOL: Ophelia says "Virulent is name calling".

HAHAHAHAHA Stupid idiot.

"It's an exceptionally nasty and tendentious word"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

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Gumby wrote:
cunt wrote:
hyperdeath says:
August 17, 2012 at 3:14 pm
hannanibal doesn’t seem to have grasped the fact that a burning sense of indignation is not a sufficient basis for a case.
Oh the fucking irony.
FTBers are so self-unaware it's funny. Mirrors do not exist in their hermetically-sealed little world.
Never ceases to amaze.

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

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Steersman wrote:
Notung wrote:Ok - uncharitable reading of Kazez, but you could say what I said in response to her real comment as well. Why the instinctive gag?
Assuming that that was more or less directed at me, I might point to something in that article:
Elevator-gate made me see the atheist-crowd in a new light. I realized there wasn't just a possible tone problem in the atheosphere, but there were a lot of problems. For one, there are a lot of misogynistic loons. They say amazingly absurd and revolting things, and there are some fairly respectable people who give these people safe harbour. For another, there are people on the respectable feminist side who simplistically [use, champion] "us-them" situations, sweeping complexities under the rug. There's no way for me to position myself with respect to this mess, because I'm against the misogynistic loons, but also against the simplifications of the supposedly feminist side. So--STAY AWAY!
So presumably her “instinctive gag” was based on a conflation of “misogynistic loons” with “Men’s Rights Activists”. Maybe a case of some problematic categorical thinking which, one might think, should be the last thing a philosopher should be guilty of.
It's called framing the discussion/debate/issue. Some Feminists are attempting to shut down MRAs by framing them all as 'misogynistic loons' as she puts it. Or they are all PUAs. Or they are all slimey and they all meet in the slimepit. It's a political tool of propaganda.

Although I note that she forthrightly identified the problem of:
... people on the respectable [quote, unquote] feminist side who simplistically [use, champion] "us-them" situations, sweeping complexities under the rug.
Which probably didn’t win her many friends on the Skepchick and FTB side of the fence ....
Personally I am not a fan of either Feminism or MRAism extremes. )I'm still that crazy Quixotic idealist) I've seen abuses of both misandry and misogyny, and as I have said before, extremes suck. Simplistic us-them situations suck. I read both feminist and mens rights blogs to try to get a more balanced view.

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

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http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/24709594

Joe Rogan vs. Jamie Kilstein (I think he's mates with RW) on Daniel Tosh and rape jokes. Start from 1:44:21 for the best bit (so I'm told).

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Steersman wrote:
bhoytony wrote:
decius wrote:
Steersman is a pompous windbag and a cunt.
Amen
Ah, I’m cut to the quick. Ask of me tomorrow and you will find me a grave man ....
No, ’tis not so deep as a well nor so wide as a church-door, but ’tis enough, ’twill serve?

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

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AndrewV69 wrote:
Steersman wrote:
bhoytony wrote:
decius wrote:
Steersman is a pompous windbag and a cunt.
Amen
Ah, I’m cut to the quick. Ask of me tomorrow and you will find me a grave man ....
No, ’tis not so deep as a well nor so wide as a church-door, but ’tis enough, ’twill serve?
As I said act 3 scene 1. For the rest who want to follow along from Romeo and Juliet. There is a local Shakespearean group that does great send ups of his plays. Y'all know I am in Ottawa anyway. A company of fools

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

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AndrewV69 wrote:
Steersman wrote:
bhoytony wrote:
decius wrote:
Steersman is a pompous windbag and a cunt.
Amen
Ah, I’m cut to the quick. Ask of me tomorrow and you will find me a grave man ....
No, ’tis not so deep as a well nor so wide as a church-door, but ’tis enough, ’twill serve?
That’s the one. :-) Act 3, Scene 1, Dilurk has informed me ....

Though maybe I shouldn’t use smilies .... but then again, as franc has followed MKG who has followed the Three Monkeys who have all put their heads in the sand – figuratively speaking, what they don’t know won’t hurt them, right? ;-)

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

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Dilurk wrote: ....
Steersman wrote: Although I note that she forthrightly identified the problem of:
... people on the respectable [quote, unquote] feminist side who simplistically [use, champion] "us-them" situations, sweeping complexities under the rug.
Which probably didn’t win her many friends on the Skepchick and FTB side of the fence ....
Personally I am not a fan of either Feminism or MRAism extremes. )I'm still that crazy Quixotic idealist) I've seen abuses of both misandry and misogyny, and as I have said before, extremes suck. Simplistic us-them situations suck. I read both feminist and mens rights blogs to try to get a more balanced view.
A very sensible philosophy ....

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