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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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BarnOwl wrote:http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p60 ... 0ba3b1.png

Does it? I've never been to Japan, so I wouldn't know. I've been friends/collaborators with a number of Japanese scientists, and I follow some aspects of Japanese culture (cooking, crafts, manga), but that's just dabbling. I don't think they make women wear burqas or stone them to death for talking to men who aren't relatives or spouses. "Criminally" implies "deserving of punishment," and I would want to experience the culture for myself before making such a sweeping judgment. But that's just me. ::shrugs::

Imagine replacing "Japan" in that tweet with another country ... say a Middle Eastern, Islamic country. Oh, the outrage! Islamophobia!
Look who's talking about tentacle rape: the fat octopus imbecile. Isn't that great?

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Skep Tickle wrote:On the other hand, they're friends, and that may give him a comfort in commenting on personal characteristics and/or joshing with her that slipped out in what he said publicly about her and came across wrong. I find it hard to imagine him commenting on the looks of a woman with whom he had a purely professional relationship.
Heh - you said "tone deaf." But I agree. It was a strange thing for him to say - wonder what Michelle had to say about it.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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16bitheretic wrote:Androgynous is a vert apt descriptor of some elements of Japan's pop-culture such as J-rock (also Korean-pop boy bands for that matter). For example, this is actually a guy:
http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u58 ... 6fc635.jpg
Like Joel said once:

"Mr. B, you look hot!"

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Skep tickle wrote:
Percentage wrote:Ok, wow. I seriously need to follow McEwan more, for the lulz. Here's Obama's "misogynist" quote:
You have to be careful to, first of all, say she is brilliant and she is dedicated and she is tough, and she is exactly what you'd want in anybody who is administering the law, and making sure that everybody is getting a fair shake. She also happens to be, by far, the best looking attorney general in the country. It's true! C'mon.
Those cunts really are a step up even from the other femtheists.
Obama was apparently trying to be good, in praising Harris in ways relevant to her performance as an attorney general, but IMO he was indeed tone deaf, in commenting on her looks and also in that awkwardly self-aware opening "you have to be careful to, first of all, say she is...". Looks aren't a criterion for the job, "best looking" is in the eye of the beholder, and - most of all - looks are a basis on which men only rarely get (explicitly, publicly) judged compared with how often it happens for women.

On the other hand, they're friends, and that may give him a comfort in commenting on personal characteristics and/or joshing with her that slipped out in what he said publicly about her and came across wrong. I find it hard to imagine him commenting on the looks of a woman with whom he had a purely professional relationship.
It was politically silly.
It was bound to get picked up, and like you said, it is hard to imagine him saying the same to someone he had just a professional relationship with, although I can imagine him saying the same thing to a male friend in a jokey kind of way.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Tigzy wrote:Oh Yes. Strong the butthurt is in this one (from Diddy Dickie's facebook page):

http://i.imgur.com/Pwk00WA.png

http://i.imgur.com/mHlnlA2.png

http://i.imgur.com/lOr85sP.png

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Personally, I would suggest that any supposedly educated man who says 'walla'' instead of 'voila' should be down voted.
http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/language ... 05052.html
(He says it just as the video starts.)

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Metalogic42 wrote:Ok, now I'm just confused: http://atheismplus.com/forums/viewtopic ... 370#p76528

I don't get how this is ableist, even from a SJW point of view. Can someone explain?

They're idiots.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Skep tickle wrote:
Percentage wrote:Ok, wow. I seriously need to follow McEwan more, for the lulz. Here's Obama's "misogynist" quote:
You have to be careful to, first of all, say she is brilliant and she is dedicated and she is tough, and she is exactly what you'd want in anybody who is administering the law, and making sure that everybody is getting a fair shake. She also happens to be, by far, the best looking attorney general in the country. It's true! C'mon.
Those cunts really are a step up even from the other femtheists.
Obama was apparently trying to be good, in praising Harris in ways relevant to her performance as an attorney general, but IMO he was indeed tone deaf, in commenting on her looks and also in that awkwardly self-aware opening "you have to be careful to, first of all, say she is...". Looks aren't a criterion for the job, "best looking" is in the eye of the beholder, and - most of all - looks are a basis on which men only rarely get (explicitly, publicly) judged compared with how often it happens for women.

On the other hand, they're friends, and that may give him a comfort in commenting on personal characteristics and/or joshing with her that slipped out in what he said publicly about her and came across wrong. I find it hard to imagine him commenting on the looks of a woman with whom he had a purely professional relationship.
Yes, I tend to agree; would have been more than a little odd if he’d said the same about some male official. Definitely, IMO, sexist, but the comment has certainly brought out some amusing and “telling” responses, starting with McEwan’s:
You have to be careful to first say a woman is competent before you can wax lascivious* sexist about how smoking hot she is.
The strike-out, as you mentioned, being predicated by this from “Imani ABL”:
.@Shakestweetz it's overboard. And you might consider not using terms like "lascivious" when referencing a black guy.
WTF? “Black guys” can’t be lascivious? Christ in a sidecar, what a fucking racist.

Seems everybody – present company excepted, of course – views events through their own coloured (if that’s not racist in SJW-speak) glasses.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Dilurk wrote:
Tigzy wrote:Oh Yes. Strong the butthurt is in this one (from Diddy Dickie's facebook page):

http://i.imgur.com/Pwk00WA.png

http://i.imgur.com/mHlnlA2.png

http://i.imgur.com/lOr85sP.png

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Personally, I would suggest that any supposedly educated man who says 'walla'' instead of 'voila' should be down voted.
http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/language ... 05052.html
(He says it just as the video starts.)
I love you D, but it's obviously just the audio snapping in, beginning on the 'w' sound of 'voi".

Sorry, but I'm waiting for Meyers to be fucked into the ground on this tentacle porn thing, and just want to make sure our house keeps itself spick and span.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Tigzy wrote:Oh Yes. Strong the butthurt is in this one (from Diddy Dickie's facebook page):

http://i.imgur.com/Pwk00WA.png

http://i.imgur.com/mHlnlA2.png

http://i.imgur.com/lOr85sP.png

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Further Rich Carrier (Dick-Carrier? SkepDick?) ADVOCATES downvoting things as a social punishment in his very video.


Irony really doesnt come any harder than this!

'when we do it, we are socially punishing people. But when people downvote us, its haters and harassment.'

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Tigzy wrote:Oh Yes. Strong the butthurt is in this one (from Diddy Dickie's facebook page):

http://i.imgur.com/Pwk00WA.png

http://i.imgur.com/mHlnlA2.png

http://i.imgur.com/lOr85sP.png

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Asked Richard Carrier to take the A+Dillahunty challenge. He politely declined, citing the usual time constraints.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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What will Myers excuse be about the tentacle porn? :think:

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Steersman wrote:The strike-out, as you mentioned, being predicated by this from “Imani ABL”:
Ah, I'm familiar with ABL - textbook American "progressive" nutter, for whom its all about race. Notice a pattern here?

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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A panel about sex? Wait a sec...

http://i.imgur.com/lqU0mj3.jpg

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Dick Strawkins wrote:
Skep tickle wrote:
Percentage wrote:Ok, wow. I seriously need to follow McEwan more, for the lulz. Here's Obama's "misogynist" quote:
You have to be careful to, first of all, say she is brilliant and she is dedicated and she is tough, and she is exactly what you'd want in anybody who is administering the law, and making sure that everybody is getting a fair shake. She also happens to be, by far, the best looking attorney general in the country. It's true! C'mon.
Those cunts really are a step up even from the other femtheists.
Obama was apparently trying to be good, in praising Harris in ways relevant to her performance as an attorney general, but IMO he was indeed tone deaf, in commenting on her looks and also in that awkwardly self-aware opening "you have to be careful to, first of all, say she is...". Looks aren't a criterion for the job, "best looking" is in the eye of the beholder, and - most of all - looks are a basis on which men only rarely get (explicitly, publicly) judged compared with how often it happens for women.

On the other hand, they're friends, and that may give him a comfort in commenting on personal characteristics and/or joshing with her that slipped out in what he said publicly about her and came across wrong. I find it hard to imagine him commenting on the looks of a woman with whom he had a purely professional relationship.
It was politically silly.
It was bound to get picked up, and like you said, it is hard to imagine him saying the same to someone he had just a professional relationship with, although I can imagine him saying the same thing to a male friend in a jokey kind of way.
http://gawker.com/5993807/?post=58763596

According to this guy, Obama has indeed been making the same sort of comments to men too. And to his credit, he did apologize for making it seem like he's putting her in that position. However in my opinion, it was harmless friendly banter that shouldn't even have been picked up as anything APPROACHING sexism, but there you go. I mean, am I wrong in thinking that it's odd that if there's a complaint about the supposed power differential between the two, shouldn't these people be thrilled that women in disadvantaged positions get the same treatment? He didn't say she was a "nice piece of ass", he didn't say "I'd do her" like Bloomberg, he didn't even start out with her appearance as a template.

They're good friends. If he had said the same thing about his wife or his daughters, where again their appearance would not be a starting point, would it have garnered the same response?

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Tfoot wrote: Further Rich Carrier (Dick-Carrier? SkepDick?) ADVOCATES downvoting things as a social punishment in his very video.


Irony really doesnt come any harder than this!

'when we do it, we are socially punishing people. But when people downvote us, its haters and harassment.'
:dance: What an absolute clown.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Radio show tonight at 8PM eastern Justin?

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Critics say: "Brilliant", "LOL Loved the video"


[youtube]2K8O8BhI19o[/youtube]


Shameless repost

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Dick Strawkins - that was a fucking killer find. That breakdown was worthy of a blog post rather than a soon-to-be-buried post on the pit. Perhaps distilling it to a single image would increase the lifespan, replay value etc. Here's my attempt (probably shit).

http://i.imgur.com/nr7A8rD.png

Mask is slipping, indeed.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Parody Accountant wrote:Dick Strawkins - that was a fucking killer find. That breakdown was worthy of a blog post rather than a soon-to-be-buried post on the pit. Perhaps distilling it to a single image would increase the lifespan, replay value etc. Here's my attempt (probably shit).

http://i.imgur.com/nr7A8rD.png

Mask is slipping, indeed.
Epic image and you're right, this needs coverage.

Come on Thunderf00t! Here's a new video for you!

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Pitchguest wrote:http://gawker.com/5993807/?post=58763596

According to this guy, Obama has indeed been making the same sort of comments to men too. And to his credit, he did apologize for making it seem like he's putting her in that position. However in my opinion, it was harmless friendly banter that shouldn't even have been picked up as anything APPROACHING sexism, but there you go. I mean, am I wrong in thinking that it's odd that if there's a complaint about the supposed power differential between the two, shouldn't these people be thrilled that women in disadvantaged positions get the same treatment? He didn't say she was a "nice piece of ass", he didn't say "I'd do her" like Bloomberg, he didn't even start out with her appearance as a template.

They're good friends. If he had said the same thing about his wife or his daughters, where again their appearance would not be a starting point, would it have garnered the same response?
From the first comment:
...just to be completely fair, President Obama often introduces high ranking male officials by commenting on their looks, too. Last February, he introduced HUD secretary Shaun Donovan as "the good-looking guy in the front here." A month later he pointed out that Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar is "a good-looking guy." And earlier this year he called Ray Mabus an "outstanding Secretary of the Navy," adding, "There he is right there — the good-looking guy over at the end."
Okay. I'd missed those (or forgotten them). So Obama comments in a positive nonspecific way on people's looks as a light touch, friendly and/or mildly humorous and/or upbeat. Maybe something like Bush giving nicknames to people (though those were usually less public, I think).

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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justinvacula wrote:A panel about sex? Wait a sec...

http://i.imgur.com/lqU0mj3.jpg
That's pretty interesting. How does on have a sex panel without using sexual imagery or language?

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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justinvacula wrote:A panel about sex? Wait a sec...

http://i.imgur.com/lqU0mj3.jpg
That's pretty interesting. How does on have a sex panel without using sexual imagery or language?

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Tony Parsehole wrote:
Tfoot wrote: Further Rich Carrier (Dick-Carrier? SkepDick?) ADVOCATES downvoting things as a social punishment in his very video.


Irony really doesnt come any harder than this!

'when we do it, we are socially punishing people. But when people downvote us, its haters and harassment.'
:dance: What an absolute clown.
Downvoting: "I think we should all be doing that, more actively..."

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Southern wrote:
BarnOwl wrote:http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p60 ... 0ba3b1.png

Does it? I've never been to Japan, so I wouldn't know. I've been friends/collaborators with a number of Japanese scientists, and I follow some aspects of Japanese culture (cooking, crafts, manga), but that's just dabbling. I don't think they make women wear burqas or stone them to death for talking to men who aren't relatives or spouses. "Criminally" implies "deserving of punishment," and I would want to experience the culture for myself before making such a sweeping judgment. But that's just me. ::shrugs::

Imagine replacing "Japan" in that tweet with another country ... say a Middle Eastern, Islamic country. Oh, the outrage! Islamophobia!
Look who's talking about tentacle rape: the fat octopus imbecile. Isn't that great?
IIRC this isn't the first time around with with dodgy comments about tentacle rape. Sometime, maybe last fall didn't Myers comment on a Japanese woman who had been murdered by her husband? He stuffed a live octopus into her mouth after she was smothered to stage a supposed accident during kinky sex.
I believe he said something like what about the poor octopus.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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free thoughtpolice wrote:
IIRC this isn't the first time around with with dodgy comments about tentacle rape. Sometime, maybe last fall didn't Myers comment on a Japanese woman who had been murdered by her husband? He stuffed a live octopus into her mouth after she was smothered to stage a supposed accident during kinky sex.
I believe he said something like what about the poor octopus.
http://i.imgur.com/6ET9l.jpg?1

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Apples wrote:
katamari Damassi wrote:That explains it. A minority woman made the complaint. McEwan has to accept it as valid or show that she doesn't play by her own rules.
Jesus fucking christ. Just looked at the expanded twitter convo.

http://i.imgur.com/B4Ukr1e.jpg

And there's a bit more after that.


So calling a professional woman good-looking is "lascivious" and "misogynistic," except that it's not lascivious if a black man is doing it, and you can't say that a woman "chided" someone, because head-asplodey. Fuck all of these morons.
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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Strawkins; That was quick!

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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EdwardGemmer wrote:
justinvacula wrote:A panel about sex? Wait a sec...

http://i.imgur.com/lqU0mj3.jpg
That's pretty interesting. How does on have a sex panel without using sexual imagery or language?
http://www.skep-tech.com/schedule/#sex
Sex in cyberspace; porn, okcupid and the internet.

Moderator: Jesse Galef

Panelists: Stephanie Zvan, Miri Mogilevsky, Ben Blanchard, Jesse Menard, and Greta Christina

Description: Dating online can be confusing. Grindr, okcupid, craigslist and other apps are all different ways technology has merged with sex and dating culture. How has this changed the way we hook up, the way we present ourselves, and how we relate to other potential partners? And what about porn - how can we be ethical consumers? And is online consent any different that [sic] "real life" consent?
Silly. Reading the rules without your sex-positive feminist glasses on. "Sexual language and imagery is not appropriate for any conference venue, including talks," only applies to harassers, sexists, misogynists, and PUAs. You're supposed to know that PC sex talk is just fine. :naughty:

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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free thoughtpolice wrote:Strawkins; That was quick!
Dick Strawkins knows where everything is on the internet, by heart. :D

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Obama was apparently trying to be good, in praising Harris in ways relevant to her performance as an attorney general, but IMO he was indeed tone deaf, in commenting on her looks and also in that awkwardly self-aware opening "you have to be careful to, first of all, say she is...". Looks aren't a criterion for the job, "best looking" is in the eye of the beholder, and - most of all - looks are a basis on which men only rarely get (explicitly, publicly) judged compared with how often it happens for women.
Oh yeah, of course. I think it was a bit of a gaffe, and not totally appropriate- but misogynist? That's hard to take seriously.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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As for "chiding", I'd say it could be construed as somewhat gendered, but a different sense- it's more often used to describe a condescending man lecturing a woman. "Mansplaining", in SJW-speak.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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free thoughtpolice wrote:
Southern wrote:
BarnOwl wrote:http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p60 ... 0ba3b1.png

Does it? I've never been to Japan, so I wouldn't know. I've been friends/collaborators with a number of Japanese scientists, and I follow some aspects of Japanese culture (cooking, crafts, manga), but that's just dabbling. I don't think they make women wear burqas or stone them to death for talking to men who aren't relatives or spouses. "Criminally" implies "deserving of punishment," and I would want to experience the culture for myself before making such a sweeping judgment. But that's just me. ::shrugs::

Imagine replacing "Japan" in that tweet with another country ... say a Middle Eastern, Islamic country. Oh, the outrage! Islamophobia!
Look who's talking about tentacle rape: the fat octopus imbecile. Isn't that great?
IIRC this isn't the first time around with with dodgy comments about tentacle rape. Sometime, maybe last fall didn't Myers comment on a Japanese woman who had been murdered by her husband? He stuffed a live octopus into her mouth after she was smothered to stage a supposed accident during kinky sex.
I believe he said something like what about the poor octopus.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... he-victim/
Blaming the victim

Cephalopods, Crime

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Some horrible little man murdered his girlfriend by stuffing a live octopus down her throat, and then claiming it was an accidental death by choking while eating a traditional Korean meal. It’s tragic and terrible, but I notice that no one is mentioning the other victim: the poor cephalopod murdered by mastication.

Hey, Korea: your practice of eating living octopus is cruel!
Comments included:

Funny. You’re just a couple of inches away from a Slymepit worthy joke that the octopus is the real victim.

That’s no better than MRA’s whining about their weenies on a thread about FGM.


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PZ, you truly are a wanker.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Here's one downvoter, being chided by Ophelia for walking out on Carrier's speech:


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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Skep tickle wrote:
Pitchguest wrote:http://gawker.com/5993807/?post=58763596

According to this guy, Obama has indeed been making the same sort of comments to men too. And to his credit, he did apologize for making it seem like he's putting her in that position. However in my opinion, it was harmless friendly banter that shouldn't even have been picked up as anything APPROACHING sexism, but there you go. I mean, am I wrong in thinking that it's odd that if there's a complaint about the supposed power differential between the two, shouldn't these people be thrilled that women in disadvantaged positions get the same treatment? He didn't say she was a "nice piece of ass", he didn't say "I'd do her" like Bloomberg, he didn't even start out with her appearance as a template.

They're good friends. If he had said the same thing about his wife or his daughters, where again their appearance would not be a starting point, would it have garnered the same response?
From the first comment:
...just to be completely fair, President Obama often introduces high ranking male officials by commenting on their looks, too. Last February, he introduced HUD secretary Shaun Donovan as "the good-looking guy in the front here." A month later he pointed out that Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar is "a good-looking guy." And earlier this year he called Ray Mabus an "outstanding Secretary of the Navy," adding, "There he is right there — the good-looking guy over at the end."
Okay. I'd missed those (or forgotten them). So Obama comments in a positive nonspecific way on people's looks as a light touch, friendly and/or mildly humorous and/or upbeat. Maybe something like Bush giving nicknames to people (though those were usually less public, I think).
That would seem only to make him consistent – consistently wrong. Why should the degree of physical attractiveness – one’s “sex appeal” – have any bearing on how good a job they’re likely to be doing? Maybe if he was using other physical attributes – short, fat, ugly, crippled, etc. – to describe other officials then one might be able to defend against a charge of discrimination. Otherwise?

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Tony Parsehole wrote:
Tfoot wrote: Further Rich Carrier (Dick-Carrier? SkepDick?) ADVOCATES downvoting things as a social punishment in his very video.


Irony really doesnt come any harder than this!

'when we do it, we are socially punishing people. But when people downvote us, its haters and harassment.'
:dance: What an absolute clown.
Richard Carrier is Richard Carrier's greatest fan. When he contributed a chapter to a book, he called it a "tour de force"*. He makes Muhammad Ali look like a modest guy. And then his ridiculous argument that he has no time to check out the A+theism forums. The guy is unemployed an independent researcher; he has all the time he wants.

* Twice, in fact:
Two of The Christian Delusion's fifteen chapters are mine. The first is Why the Resurrection Is Unbelievable, which is the most definitive refutation of warranted belief in the resurrection I have ever composed. It's a deliberate tour de force, such that I doubt I'll ever have to write another. It even takes down recent attempts to use Bayes' Theorem to argue for the resurrection, and it contextualizes everything so there just isn't any rational basis left for claiming the resurrection is historically proven.

The second is Christianity Was Not Responsible for Modern Science, which is another tour de force, conclusively taking down once and for all the claim that Christianity gave us modern science.
http://richardcarrier.blogspot.co.uk/20 ... usion.html

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codelette wrote:That girl with the amputation fetish posted this at Eberhard's blog...
When I look down at my leg, I won’t see a piss-poor excuse for an organic part, a reminder of how damaged and broken I am – I’ll see the beauty of carbon fiber and titanium, and a reminder that this community came together when I really needed help.
If you the videos on her Youtube channel, you'll notice that's she's enjoying that shit way too much.
I find it interesting that she decided to go with the prosthetic leg over the wheelchair. IIRC she spent most (if not all) of Skepticon in a wheelchair to promote awareness. It was a bit 'coincidental' that she got all that practice in right before an injury and surgery that could result in her needing one.


Since this is my first post I suppose I should add a small introduction. I'm yet another Chill Girl/Sister Punisher, the only conference I've been to is Skepticon. I've always been a bit nervous to say anything, even though I've been following since the beginning, due to the crazed lashback that could bite my ass once a year when Skepticon rolls through town.

Side note: Fuck off.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Jan Steen wrote:Richard Carrier is Richard Carrier's greatest fan. When he contributed a chapter to a book, he called it a "tour de force"*. He makes Muhammad Ali look like a modest guy. And then his ridiculous argument that he has no time to check out the A+theism forums. The guy is unemployed an independent researcher; he has all the time he wants.

* Twice, in fact:
Two of The Christian Delusion's fifteen chapters are mine. The first is Why the Resurrection Is Unbelievable, which is the most definitive refutation of warranted belief in the resurrection I have ever composed. It's a deliberate tour de force, such that I doubt I'll ever have to write another. It even takes down recent attempts to use Bayes' Theorem to argue for the resurrection, and it contextualizes everything so there just isn't any rational basis left for claiming the resurrection is historically proven.

The second is Christianity Was Not Responsible for Modern Science, which is another tour de force, conclusively taking down once and for all the claim that Christianity gave us modern science.
http://richardcarrier.blogspot.co.uk/20 ... usion.html
I actually just looked up "tour de force" to see if there was some alternative definition that could acquit Carrier of truly shameless and absurd self-praise, but there isn't one.

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Richard Carrier would have a wank, then afterwards praise himself for being such an accomplished lover.

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Apples wrote:Here's one downvoter, being chided by Ophelia for walking out on Carrier's speech:

Ophelia: "In other words you dramatized yourself just a tiny bit."

Look who's talking :D

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Voryn wrote:
Side note: Fuck off.
Welcome. Here's your obligatory basket of links:

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Voryn wrote:
codelette wrote:That girl with the amputation fetish posted this at Eberhard's blog...
When I look down at my leg, I won’t see a piss-poor excuse for an organic part, a reminder of how damaged and broken I am – I’ll see the beauty of carbon fiber and titanium, and a reminder that this community came together when I really needed help.
If you the videos on her Youtube channel, you'll notice that's she's enjoying that shit way too much.
I find it interesting that she decided to go with the prosthetic leg over the wheelchair. IIRC she spent most (if not all) of Skepticon in a wheelchair to promote awareness. It was a bit 'coincidental' that she got all that practice in right before an injury and surgery that could result in her needing one.


Since this is my first post I suppose I should add a small introduction. I'm yet another Chill Girl/Sister Punisher, the only conference I've been to is Skepticon. I've always been a bit nervous to say anything, even though I've been following since the beginning, due to the crazed lashback that could bite my ass once a year when Skepticon rolls through town.

Side note: Fuck off.

I wouldn't worry. None of them will say shot to anyone in person. They'd just yell at you on the Internet.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Tony Parsehole wrote:
Parody Accountant wrote:Dick Strawkins - that was a fucking killer find. That breakdown was worthy of a blog post rather than a soon-to-be-buried post on the pit. Perhaps distilling it to a single image would increase the lifespan, replay value etc. Here's my attempt (probably shit).

http://i.imgur.com/nr7A8rD.png

Mask is slipping, indeed.
Epic image and you're right, this needs coverage.

Come on Thunderf00t! Here's a new video for you!
Screw Thunderf00t give it to McEwan - she is the only one on their "side" that dares criticize PZ and PZ feels the need to apologise to.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Jan Steen wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:
Tfoot wrote: Further Rich Carrier (Dick-Carrier? SkepDick?) ADVOCATES downvoting things as a social punishment in his very video.


Irony really doesnt come any harder than this!

'when we do it, we are socially punishing people. But when people downvote us, its haters and harassment.'
:dance: What an absolute clown.
Richard Carrier is Richard Carrier's greatest fan. When he contributed a chapter to a book, he called it a "tour de force"*. He makes Muhammad Ali look like a modest guy. And then his ridiculous argument that he has no time to check out the A+theism forums. The guy is unemployed an independent researcher; he has all the time he wants.

* Twice, in fact:
Two of The Christian Delusion's fifteen chapters are mine. The first is Why the Resurrection Is Unbelievable, which is the most definitive refutation of warranted belief in the resurrection I have ever composed. It's a deliberate tour de force, such that I doubt I'll ever have to write another. It even takes down recent attempts to use Bayes' Theorem to argue for the resurrection, and it contextualizes everything so there just isn't any rational basis left for claiming the resurrection is historically proven.

The second is Christianity Was Not Responsible for Modern Science, which is another tour de force, conclusively taking down once and for all the claim that Christianity gave us modern science.
http://richardcarrier.blogspot.co.uk/20 ... usion.html
I particularly like this bit:
It's a fantastic book...And if you like it, give it a customer review on Amazon, critical or laudatory. We'll need honest Amazon reviews to counter the inevitable Christian tactic of low-starring it and lying about it to dissuade fellow Christians from reading it. I'd rather have valid criticisms in there if any.
Once again, a pre-emptive assertion that one couldn't genuiely have issues with anything that's been graced, Midas-like, with Carrier's intellectual pecker; any negativity would of course be the result of some ulterior motive.

Hath a high opinion of himself, does Dr Carrier.

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Jan Steen wrote: <snip>
Richard Carrier is Richard Carrier's greatest fan. When he contributed a chapter to a book, he called it a "tour de force"*. He makes Muhammad Ali look like a modest guy. And then his ridiculous argument that he has no time to check out the A+theism forums. The guy is unemployed an independent researcher; he has all the time he wants.

* Twice, in fact:
Two of The Christian Delusion's fifteen chapters are mine. The first is Why the Resurrection Is Unbelievable, which is the most definitive refutation of warranted belief in the resurrection I have ever composed. It's a deliberate tour de force, such that I doubt I'll ever have to write another. It even takes down recent attempts to use Bayes' Theorem to argue for the resurrection, and it contextualizes everything so there just isn't any rational basis left for claiming the resurrection is historically proven.

The second is Christianity Was Not Responsible for Modern Science, which is another tour de force, conclusively taking down once and for all the claim that Christianity gave us modern science.
http://richardcarrier.blogspot.co.uk/20 ... usion.html
I wonder whether there’s an epiphany in that boy’s future or not, but it sure seems he could use one.

“Pride goeth before a fall”, and all that, although he probably threw his Bible out before he got to the good stuff ….

But I very much doubt that many are claiming the “Christianity gave us modern science”, although more than a few credible books – e.g., Richard Tarnas’ The Passion of the Western Mind: Understanding the Ideas That Have Shaped Our World View – have argued quite persuasively that Christianity, as with Islam, have made significant contributions to at least the dissemination of those ideas or their precursors.

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windy wrote:
Apples wrote:Here's one downvoter, being chided by Ophelia for walking out on Carrier's speech:

Ophelia: "In other words you dramatized yourself just a tiny bit."

Look who's talking :D
No shit! Then when she says, "actually, no," Ophelia gives her a hard time for not making a scene, because it's not a meaningful protest. Wheedle wheedle wheedle. Pathetic Ophie.

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Tigzy wrote:Richard Carrier would have a wank, then afterwards praise himself for being such an accomplished lover.
enthusiastic consent every time.

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Voryn wrote:Since this is my first post I suppose I should add a small introduction. I'm yet another Chill Girl/Sister Punisher, the only conference I've been to is Skepticon. I've always been a bit nervous to say anything, even though I've been following since the beginning, due to the crazed lashback that could bite my ass once a year when Skepticon rolls through town.
Welcome!

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My refutation of Why the Resurrection Is Unbelievable: Dead people don't walk out of a cave two days later.

Now I feel a sudden urge to go over to the mirror to have a look at the person who composed this tour de force.

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Im sure by now we all have been accused of rape and celebrating the inquisition. I was just wondering since we have copies of PZ's post with him giving targets such as Joe Rogan who also has documented online activity showing innocence. Is it enough proof of malicious harassment or at least defamation of character? Not to sue but im sure even a filed complaint would be enough to remove his white, middle class, gender denying "privilege". At least cause some concern for his representation at events.

This is my first post also. So how does it go again?...

Oh yeah.
Hello. My name is socialcuntism. (pause for response) ...

and im a white middle class misogynistic rapist who forgets to check his privilege.

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Why does nobody tell Voryn to fuck off? Because she is a chill girl? Typical. Just typical.

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Jan Steen wrote:Why does nobody tell Voryn to fuck off? Because she is a chill girl? Typical. Just typical.
Now they've started ninjaing us with a pre-emptive fuck off. It's quite a dilemma.

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d4m10n wrote:
Tigzy wrote:Oh Yes. Strong the butthurt is in this one (from Diddy Dickie's facebook page):

http://i.imgur.com/Pwk00WA.png

http://i.imgur.com/mHlnlA2.png

http://i.imgur.com/lOr85sP.png

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Asked Richard Carrier to take the A+Dillahunty challenge. He politely declined, citing the usual time constraints.

Wow, more of the A+ forums have little to do with A+. This is a shitty canard.

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Parody Accountant wrote:Dick Strawkins - that was a fucking killer find. That breakdown was worthy of a blog post rather than a soon-to-be-buried post on the pit. Perhaps distilling it to a single image would increase the lifespan, replay value etc. Here's my attempt (probably shit).

http://i.imgur.com/nr7A8rD.png

Mask is slipping, indeed.
Needs moar students dressed as mermaids!

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Re: Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

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Jan Steen wrote:Why does nobody tell Voryn to fuck off? Because she is a chill girl? Typical. Just typical.
I am – according to some, anyway – a contrarian. But not that much of one - or maybe there also, depending on your point (or pint) of view …. ;-)

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Jan Steen wrote:For a change, Ophelia Benson comes across as a perfectly reasonable individual.
Still arguing about Amina and the protests and white-imperialist-Orientalist feminism. On Twitter for one.
this is where an intersectional approach is so vital. Attempting to impose white western “feminism” w/o listening to the very ppl they’re trying to “liberate” = doomed & counterproductive enterprise.
Sigh. “White western feminism” as opposed to the brown eastern kind which is just fine with arresting and whipping or stoning a woman who takes a picture of herself with her shirt off.

Don’t do that. Don’t pretend there’s “white western” feminism or human rights or liberalism as opposed to brown eastern ones. Human rights are universal; that is the whole point. The whole point is to make them exceptionless, because if we don’t we’re right back where we started – with “we have to kill all the Jews/Tutsis/Bosnian Muslims/gays/apostates/Hindus/whatever it is this weeks.”
Indeed, human rights are universal. Isn’t it paradoxical that the SJ warriors are often among the first to forget this? They often get so hopelessly lost in the intricacies of their privilege calculus that they end up defending oppressors rather than the oppressed.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... -feminism/
It's refreshing to hear someone say that. This imperialist nonsense is simply an excuse for narcissists to keep the focus on themselves. A+ use that excuse all the time. They also seem to forget they can't 'listen' to people who have no access to a computer and more often than not little to no education. What are they supposed to do, ask a woman if she wants to be stoned or not by flying over and asking?

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This made me giggle so much that I tooted. I've known JT for a few years and even pre-"internet fame" this is how people did impressions of him.

Jan Steen wrote:Why does nobody tell Voryn to fuck off? Because she is a chill girl? Typical. Just typical.
Well.. chill girls do say things just to be in favored repute with the boys! However, I had thought fuck off was an endearing term here, maybe my chillness has backfired :doh:

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Voryn and socialcuntism:

Welcome and fuck off.

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Percentage wrote:Ok, wow. I seriously need to follow McEwan more, for the lulz. Here's Obama's "misogynist" quote:
You have to be careful to, first of all, say she is brilliant and she is dedicated and she is tough, and she is exactly what you'd want in anybody who is administering the law, and making sure that everybody is getting a fair shake. She also happens to be, by far, the best looking attorney general in the country. It's true! C'mon.
Those cunts really are a step up even from the other femtheists.
Her blog is pure comedy gold as well. I was transfixed for a few hours reading all the comments from her sycophants. The best bits were guest appearances by Oolon (he wrote such a grovelling post he was completely ignored as too sickly even for them) and Adam Lee (who was told to get lost and not come back until he had read Feminism 101)

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