Jim the Pleb Made Me Do It

[AbsurdWalls]

http://i.imgur.com/UeDp3Cw.jpg

Is there any limit to how long you can be a phd student for in the US without graduating?

She will be dodging a bullet if she doesn't get this gig, I would never advise anyone give up something they enjoy, but it doesn't seem like she really gets what she wants out of blogging. Maybe she thinks moving to Wired will help with that?

If you've got time to be doing extra things then don't spend it in stuff that stresses you out and frustrates you. Your research has got that angle covered, especially when it gets to crunch-time.

[Gefan]

BTW, my wife (Spokane born and bred) has to turn on subtitles for Weegie, Geordie, Brummie, and Scouse accents.

My wife and I had been in England only a few days when we tuned in to Rab C. Nesbitt. I still have no idea what he was on about.

I recently introduced a Taiwanese friend to Rab. He refused to believe that was a form of English. Still thinks I was messing with him.

Hmm. Some DVDs might make a nice gift for my colleagues in Beijing. They said they like Scotch.

Fuck. I'm out of here before our resident porridge wog reads that.

[Bhurzum]

BTW, my wife (Spokane born and bred) has to turn on subtitles for Weegie, Geordie, Brummie, and Scouse accents.

My wife and I had been in England only a few days when we tuned in to Rab C. Nesbitt. I still have no idea what he was on about.

Ah, one of my favourite pass-times! Allow me (Glasgow born & bred) to give you a quick "weedgie 101" :lol:

Yiir (rhymes with "her") - Your

Maw (Rhymes with "saw" - Mother

Goat (as normal) - got

Baws (as in plural of "saw") - testicles (Lit: Balls)

Ok, now we put all of them together (literally, spoken as one giant word) and we have an authentic "weedgie" insult.

Repeat after me: Yiirmawsgoatbaws!

For added authenticity, grunt it in an angry tone whilst a soggy hand-rolled cigarette (a "bine") dangles from the corner of your mouth. In no time at all, you'll be singing along to this:

[youtube]scNLfr1EP08[/youtube]

Note: My soul dies a little every time I watch this. It plays to every stereotype associated with the Glasgow youth sub-culture.

[Bhurzum]

They said they like Scotch.

...must...resist...urge...to...KILL!!!1!1!one!11

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/ ... 203381.jpg

[Patrick]

They said they like Scotch.

...must...resist...urge...to...KILL!!!1!1!one!11

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/ ... 203381.jpg

While I was working there I was paired with a manager from [Big Consultancy That Doesn't Really Deserve To Remain Nameless]. She was from Glasgow. My team was made up of people from the US and France. Once they found that she had a temper and that her accent would get thicker and she'd use more slang the angrier she got, things went rapidly downhill. Having a wee female Rab about was fun off and on, but not good for delivering the project.

[masakari2012]

[img]image[/img]

Is there any limit to how long you can be a phd student for in the US without graduating?

She will be dodging a bullet if she doesn't get this gig, I would never advise anyone give up something they enjoy, but it doesn't seem like she really gets what she wants out of blogging. Maybe she thinks moving to Wired will help with that?

If you've got time to be doing extra things then don't spend it in stuff that stresses you out and frustrates you. Your research has got that angle covered, especially when it gets to crunch-time.

That sucks for WiredSciBlogs. I wonder if they are aware that she condemns people for being white heterosexual men, or defends people who wrongfully accuse others of being racist due to arguing against barbarian elephant poachers?

http://i.imgur.com/zraIsiS.png

[masakari2012]

For lulz...

http://i.imgur.com/FnUcw0e.jpg

[Lsuoma]

Mary Nesbitt?

[welch]

On Ophelia's OMG YOU MODERATED MEEEEEE!!!!111 shit:

http://dissentionisnothate.wordpress.co ... -his-line/

[Bhurzum]

While I was working there I was paired with a manager from [Big Consultancy That Doesn't Really Deserve To Remain Nameless]. She was from Glasgow. My team was made up of people from the US and France. Once they found that she had a temper and that her accent would get thicker and she'd use more slang the angrier she got, things went rapidly downhill. Having a wee female Rab about was fun off and on, but not good for delivering the project.

Ah, sounds just like my ex!

We're not all like that, honest... :D

[Bhurzum]

Mary Nesbitt?

Not sure about Mary doll but maybe RW could get a job in Scotland. I hear the police are hiring...

[youtube]RY8YeLErbEg[/youtube]

[AndrewV69]

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... omens-day/

PZ has a blog post up, still thinking the Slymepit is a collective. Honestly, though, I don't really "get" the tweet at all. Actually it's pretty bad from where I'm sitting.

:confusion-shrug:

Yeah, from where I'm sitting too. I barely go on Twitter anymore and didn't know about it until I read your post. Astrokid has apparently decided to become a douche.

Did what you say above classify as "calling him out"?

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... ent-576443

NateHevens, resident SOOPER-GENIUS... apparently...
10 March 2013 at 8:16 pm (UTC -5)

Did any pitters call him out?

(I’m sure I already know the answer, but I’m going to leave it as an actual question instead of a rhetorical one, anyway…)

PeeZuss Christ does have a point but he goes overboard:

deprived by the kind of endemic bigotry that would, for instance, denigrate an entire group of people as “pop-culture hos”. And it’s not just science — it was good of our petty MRA to remind us that we’ve also lost their contributions to art and theater and games.

He may have a good point about women being kept out of science deliberately in the past, but the arts, not so much when it comes to music and literature.

Unless there was some great conspiracy for instance, to keep women out of music, and remember we had a humungous number of women in the aristocracy who had the time and resources to devote to music for more than a few centurys, we to the best of my knowledge never produced a single great female composer.

(do we have any great composers today, male or female?)

I do not need to list women in literature I hope. Anyway, despite all the supposed lack of barriers I really do not expect women to ever start doing science in great numbers.

Now, just because I do not see it does not mean it is not so, but my argument is that unless you compel women to never have children, and force them to do STEM, it is not going to happen. They may have the capability but the majority are simply not interested.

I am tempted to mention Jessica Steinhauser who won a full academic scholarship to Rutgers University and is a member of Mensa with an IQ of 156, but who decided became a porn star under the name of Asia Carrera. But I think that is a bit of an outlier.

In the end, I believe most women have no interest in working in STEM fields over having children. The good thing is as far as I can see, there are a lot less barriers preventing those who are interested from doing so.

YMMV

[Maximus]

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... omens-day/

PZ has a blog post up, still thinking the Slymepit is a collective. Honestly, though, I don't really "get" the tweet at all. Actually it's pretty bad from where I'm sitting.

:confusion-shrug:

Yeah, from where I'm sitting too. I barely go on Twitter anymore and didn't know about it until I read your post. Astrokid has apparently decided to become a douche.

Astrokid is one of the AVFM contingent. I think he was the one that wrote that stupid article over there after the Indian gang rape and murder case, saying that the big problem there was sexism against men!
He seems to barely conceal a hate for women - which is probably the reason he rarely posts here.

Desperate measures by Peezus if he's forced to trawl through AVFM writers and try to paint them as representitive of the Slymepit.
What next? Johntheother? Paul Elam?

I wonder why MRA's have an image problem?

[AndrewV69]

[img]image[/img]

Is there any limit to how long you can be a phd student for in the US without graduating?

She will be dodging a bullet if she doesn't get this gig, I would never advise anyone give up something they enjoy, but it doesn't seem like she really gets what she wants out of blogging. Maybe she thinks moving to Wired will help with that?

If you've got time to be doing extra things then don't spend it in stuff that stresses you out and frustrates you. Your research has got that angle covered, especially when it gets to crunch-time.

That sucks for WiredSciBlogs. I wonder if they are aware that she condemns people for being white heterosexual men, or defends people who wrongfully accuse others of being racist due to arguing against barbarian elephant poachers?

http://i.imgur.com/zraIsiS.png

Someone should tell her about this then:

Feminist POC Wikipedia Takeover! 3/15 11-3 EST

I am really excited to tell you about a project I am working on called Feminists Engage Wikipedia, where folks around the country sign into Wikipedia, edit certain entries and add new ones to counteract the very white straight cis able bodied western dude nature of the site. We will be working in person and virtually Friday, March 15 from 11 am to 3pm EST.

[Southern]

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... omens-day/

PZ has a blog post up, still thinking the Slymepit is a collective. Honestly, though, I don't really "get" the tweet at all. Actually it's pretty bad from where I'm sitting.

:confusion-shrug:

Yeah, from where I'm sitting too. I barely go on Twitter anymore and didn't know about it until I read your post. Astrokid has apparently decided to become a douche.

Astrokid is one of the AVFM contingent. I think he was the one that wrote that stupid article over there after the Indian gang rape and murder case, saying that the big problem there was sexism against men!
He seems to barely conceal a hate for women - which is probably the reason he rarely posts here.

Desperate measures by Peezus if he's forced to trawl through AVFM writers and try to paint them as representitive of the Slymepit.
What next? Johntheother? Paul Elam?

I wonder why MRA's have an image problem?

Dear PZ The Fatso:

I speak only for myself. Also, I do not give anyone authorization to represent me on any means, unless specifically noted.

Now go fuck yourself with a porcupine, then die in a fire, you fat prick.

Love,

Southern

PS: Shave that ridiculous beard of yours, your insuferable dick.

[Michael K Gray]

I submitted a post to the article mentioned by Butler Benson:

Michael Kingsford Gray ---------------------- 20
In reply to #18 by MatthewMatic:

There's a certain type of Muslim woman who would not attend an event if the seating wasn't gender segregated. And they wouldn't want to sit anywhere but the back for fear of men ogling them. This event provided for the needs of those people. Would Dawkins prefer their needs not to be provided for, preventing them from ever seeing a male atheist speaker present their case in person?

With a minuscule change this is revealed as the alarmingly inhuman nonsense that it is: "There's a certain type of white woman who would not attend an event if the seating wasn't race segregated. And they wouldn't want to sit anywhere but the back for fear of blacks ogling them. This event provided for the needs of those people. Would Dawkins prefer their needs not to be provided for, preventing them from ever seeing a black atheist speaker present their case in person?"

[AndrewV69]

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... omens-day/

PZ has a blog post up, still thinking the Slymepit is a collective. Honestly, though, I don't really "get" the tweet at all. Actually it's pretty bad from where I'm sitting.

:confusion-shrug:

Yeah, from where I'm sitting too. I barely go on Twitter anymore and didn't know about it until I read your post. Astrokid has apparently decided to become a douche.

Astrokid is one of the AVFM contingent. I think he was the one that wrote that stupid article over there after the Indian gang rape and murder case, saying that the big problem there was sexism against men!
He seems to barely conceal a hate for women - which is probably the reason he rarely posts here.

Desperate measures by Peezus if he's forced to trawl through AVFM writers and try to paint them as representitive of the Slymepit.
What next? Johntheother? Paul Elam?

I wonder why MRA's have an image problem?

Speaking for myself, and only myself. I do not care.

(Actually, I get a kick out of it. Effortless trolling for someone who sucks at it. Better than saying Boooooo! People just fall over in shock and horror)

[decius]

http://s16.postimage.org/52bmyf4w5/Pit_Quote2.jpg

[Michael K Gray]

Benson's latest post on this topic may have hit a record low for % originality:
8:917
≅0.8%!
Less than one percent original!

And... not a single link to the press release.
Alert the Pulitzer committee.

[AndrewV69]

I submitted a post to the article mentioned by Butler Benson:

Michael Kingsford Gray ---------------------- 20
In reply to #18 by MatthewMatic:

There's a certain type of Muslim woman who would not attend an event if the seating wasn't gender segregated. And they wouldn't want to sit anywhere but the back for fear of men ogling them. This event provided for the needs of those people. Would Dawkins prefer their needs not to be provided for, preventing them from ever seeing a male atheist speaker present their case in person?

With a minuscule change this is revealed as the alarmingly inhuman nonsense that it is: "There's a certain type of white woman who would not attend an event if the seating wasn't race segregated. And they wouldn't want to sit anywhere but the back for fear of blacks ogling them. This event provided for the needs of those people. Would Dawkins prefer their needs not to be provided for, preventing them from ever seeing a black atheist speaker present their case in person?"

The part I underlined is actually very credible.

Sorry MKG. But I have absolutely no reason not to believe it. Anyone who doubts this has had no exposure to that type of culture.

[cunt]

Not trying to speak for Michael K. Gray, but I think that's his fucking point.

Its also very credible that a number of white women are racists. Does this mean we should pander to them and have racially segregated events?

[decius]

Well, Astrokid speaks only for himself, like everyone else. Same old tarring.

Andrew, the culture may well exist, but it doesn't follows that we should pander to all its repulsive aspects.

[Percentage]

You know, I was sort of wondering, does anyone know how PZ became so prominent in the first place? Was it really just Crackergate? I mean, I was browsing his blog today and I sort of just realized how boring Pharyngula is. He very rarely posts anything of interest, unless you count his Social Justice Warrioring, and then only because it feeds this dumb little schism he's manufactured. Unlike other prominent bloggers like Andrew Sullivan or John Scalzi, he's not a good writer. So what's the deal here?

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... omens-day/

PZ has a blog post up, still thinking the Slymepit is a collective. Honestly, though, I don't really "get" the tweet at all. Actually it's pretty bad from where I'm sitting.

:confusion-shrug:

Yeah, from where I'm sitting too. I barely go on Twitter anymore and didn't know about it until I read your post. Astrokid has apparently decided to become a douche.

Astrokid is one of the AVFM contingent. I think he was the one that wrote that stupid article over there after the Indian gang rape and murder case, saying that the big problem there was sexism against men!
He seems to barely conceal a hate for women - which is probably the reason he rarely posts here.

Desperate measures by Peezus if he's forced to trawl through AVFM writers and try to paint them as representitive of the Slymepit.
What next? Johntheother? Paul Elam?

I wonder why MRA's have an image problem?

Dear PZ The Fatso:

I speak only for myself. Also, I do not give anyone authorization to represent me on any means, unless specifically noted.

Now go fuck yourself with a porcupine, then die in a fire, you fat prick.

Love,

Southern

PS: Shave that ridiculous beard of yours, your insuferable dick.

I, as an autonomous member of the 'Pit, agree with all of this except the dying in a fire part. I really do.

[decius]

You know, I was sort of wondering, does anyone know how PZ became so prominent in the first place? Was it really just Crackergate? I mean, I was browsing his blog today and I sort of just realized how boring Pharyngula is. He very rarely posts anything of interest, unless you count his Social Justice Warrioring, and then only because it feeds this dumb little schism he's manufactured. Unlike other prominent bloggers like Andrew Sullivan or John Scalzi, he's not a good writer. So what's the deal here?

The old Pharyngula at Science Blogs had some good takedowns of creationist nonsense and the occasional decent science post. There were also a lot of pointless diatribes and vitriol directed at whomever disagreed with Peezus even slightly.

Now it has become total crap.

[Michael K Gray]

I submitted a post to the article mentioned by Butler Benson:

Michael Kingsford Gray ---------------------- 20
In reply to #18 by MatthewMatic:

There's a certain type of Muslim woman who would not attend an event if the seating wasn't gender segregated. And they wouldn't want to sit anywhere but the back for fear of men ogling them. This event provided for the needs of those people. Would Dawkins prefer their needs not to be provided for, preventing them from ever seeing a male atheist speaker present their case in person?

With a minuscule change this is revealed as the alarmingly inhuman nonsense that it is: "There's a certain type of white woman who would not attend an event if the seating wasn't race segregated. And they wouldn't want to sit anywhere but the back for fear of blacks ogling them. This event provided for the needs of those people. Would Dawkins prefer their needs not to be provided for, preventing them from ever seeing a black atheist speaker present their case in person?"

The part I underlined is actually very credible.

Sorry MKG. But I have absolutely no reason not to believe it. Anyone who doubts this has had no exposure to that type of culture.

Oh, you mistake me entirely, sir.
I believe it without doubt.
Just as I believe that the white Southern women felt the the mere gaze of a nigger would contaminate them.
That you, or I, believe them, does not make this attitude any less inhuman and repellent.

[DownThunder]

I submitted a post to the article mentioned by Butler Benson:

Michael Kingsford Gray ---------------------- 20
In reply to #18 by MatthewMatic:

There's a certain type of Muslim woman who would not attend an event if the seating wasn't gender segregated. And they wouldn't want to sit anywhere but the back for fear of men ogling them. This event provided for the needs of those people. Would Dawkins prefer their needs not to be provided for, preventing them from ever seeing a male atheist speaker present their case in person?

With a minuscule change this is revealed as the alarmingly inhuman nonsense that it is: "There's a certain type of white woman who would not attend an event if the seating wasn't race segregated. And they wouldn't want to sit anywhere but the back for fear of blacks ogling them. This event provided for the needs of those people. Would Dawkins prefer their needs not to be provided for, preventing them from ever seeing a black atheist speaker present their case in person?"

Yes good post. The racial analogy is far too fitting for comfort. Must not also forgot the gendered aspect of the racism - that the allegations of sexual predation were aimed at black men, framed as preying on white women. So its a mix of racism + sexism.

Another quote from that thread: It was only at the end of the comment that I realised this was from presumably a muslim, not a feminist. The gendered rhetoric is so eerily similar.

ts a shame that a couple of uncivilised disrespectful men had to disrupt an otherwise amazing well organised event.

Clearly this was a pre-planned tactic to divert attention away from the actual outcome of the debate.

Men forcing themselves upon women yesterday and promoting incest between a brother and sister. Whats next Krauss? Genderless toilets? Its very clear that Islam is based upon Moral guidance and more beneficial to Human Society and Atheism is degrading our society as can clearly be seen by the moral decline of the west over the last 100 years. Clearly Islam is more sensible.

[AndrewV69]

Not trying to speak for Michael K. Gray, but I think that's his fucking point.

Its also very credible that a number of white women are racists. Does this mean we should pander to them and have racially segregated events?

Are they the majority? If so they make the rules. Look guys, did you think I was joking earlier?

What has the UK been doing for the last 20 years? From what I see you went multicult instead of absorption and that set the course for what you see unfolding today.

You lost this fight ten years ago. Demographics is destiny.

[AndrewV69]

Well, Astrokid speaks only for himself, like everyone else. Same old tarring.

Andrew, the culture may well exist, but it doesn't follows that we should pander to all its repulsive aspects.

The UK failed to do anything about it when there was a chance. I seriously doubt anything can be done now. London is toast.

[Michael K Gray]

ts a shame that a couple of uncivilised disrespectful men had to disrupt an otherwise amazing well organised event.

Clearly this was a pre-planned tactic to divert attention away from the actual outcome of the debate.

Men forcing themselves upon women yesterday and promoting incest between a brother and sister. Whats next Krauss? Genderless toilets? Its very clear that Islam is based upon Moral guidance and more beneficial to Human Society and Atheism is degrading our society as can clearly be seen by the moral decline of the west over the last 100 years. Clearly Islam is more sensible.

Yes, I just responded to that "gem" of sanity!

[Maximus]

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... omens-day/

PZ has a blog post up, still thinking the Slymepit is a collective. Honestly, though, I don't really "get" the tweet at all. Actually it's pretty bad from where I'm sitting.

:confusion-shrug:

Yeah, from where I'm sitting too. I barely go on Twitter anymore and didn't know about it until I read your post. Astrokid has apparently decided to become a douche.

Astrokid is one of the AVFM contingent. I think he was the one that wrote that stupid article over there after the Indian gang rape and murder case, saying that the big problem there was sexism against men!
He seems to barely conceal a hate for women - which is probably the reason he rarely posts here.

Desperate measures by Peezus if he's forced to trawl through AVFM writers and try to paint them as representitive of the Slymepit.
What next? Johntheother? Paul Elam?

I wonder why MRA's have an image problem?

Speaking for myself, and only myself. I do not care.

(Actually, I get a kick out of it. Effortless trolling for someone who sucks at it. Better than saying Boooooo! People just fall over in shock and horror)

Actually he really only made himself look like a complete idiot.

[Michael K Gray]

Are they the majority?

Who are "they"?

[Lsuoma]

Not trying to speak for Michael K. Gray, but I think that's his fucking point.

Its also very credible that a number of white women are racists. Does this mean we should pander to them and have racially segregated events?

Are they the majority? If so they make the rules. Look guys, did you think I was joking earlier?

What has the UK been doing for the last 20 years? From what I see you went multicult instead of absorption and that set the course for what you see unfolding today.

You lost this fight ten years ago. Demographics is destiny.

This is the reason why if I went back to the Europe it would not be back to the UK, but the chances of me going back are slight, very slight...

[comslave]

[

http://i.imgur.com/UeDp3Cw.jpg

So being a self-absorbed entitled brat is a science?

[Michael K Gray]

This surely must be picked up by the SJWorriers?
Ghost-believing "Skeptic" friend of Watson, Hayley Stevens already knows about it, so it won't be long before it is blown out of all proportion.
A proportion abortion.
http://www.merseysideskeptics.org.uk/wp ... 740208.jpg

[AndrewV69]

Actually he really only made himself look like a complete idiot.

I am not defending him on this. He can do that himself

Astrokid is one of the AVFM contingent. I think he was the one that wrote that stupid article over there after the Indian gang rape and murder case, saying that the big problem there was sexism against men!
He seems to barely conceal a hate for women - which is probably the reason he rarely posts here.

Desperate measures by Peezus if he's forced to trawl through AVFM writers and try to paint them as representitive of the Slymepit.
What next? Johntheother? Paul Elam?

If memory serves, and I deciphered this rats nest of clustered quotes (I could have gone back to check ... but that would have been too easy) I think you mean this article by Anil Shama who lives in India. I believe Astrokid lives in the USA.

A passage from India
http://www.avoiceformen.com/misandry/a- ... rom-india/

In New Delhi, which is infamously called the Rape Capital, men are treated like beasts. Since the preconceived notion is that men are the perpetrators and a woman cannot lie about being troubled by a man, even the slightest hint of discomfort shown by a woman could mean doomsday for a man. The rapes that actually do happen are mostly at night when girls roam around unguarded in isolated places, but the media portrays it as a crime that happens around the clock in every possible area.

BTW... I am pretty sure that while Anil is not rich his family is relatively well off. Much better off than Artina Cage at any rate if I remember correctly.

Anyway, latest update on the Delhi rape case: Main accused Ram Singh commits suicide in Tihar Jail
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city ... 902304.cms

Finally, watch this and see if you can spot what does not happen:
[youtube]Z5CHi3lcLUs[/youtube]

[AndrewV69]

Are they the majority?

Who are "they"?

Whoever the majority happens to be.

(as one aspie to another ... sorry but it was conditional on whoever happens to be the majority )

[Michael K Gray]

Are they the majority?

Who are "they"?

Whoever the majority happens to be.

(as one aspie to another ... sorry but it was conditional on whoever happens to be the majority )

I was expecting a more targeted response.
Are "they":
* Muslims?
* UK Muslims?
* Muslims as a % of the attendees of the lecture?

I now recognise that I originally asked the incorrect question.

Let me try again:
To which "majority" do you refer?

Be specific. Give examples. You may use a calculator.

[Steersman]

<snip>
I think I need to put that book on my reading list as well. It really is a rather surprising state of affairs, if not a worrisome one. You have, no doubt, read his earlier book with Bricmont – I haven’t – but the following quote from a review of it by Dawkins was certainly a jaw-dropping moment for me:

<snip>

Methinks the barbarians are inside the gates already and well ensconced in academia.

The inarticulateness of feminist science stems from its propensity to privilege spin and strangeness over charm.

Three quarks for Muster Mark!

I don’t know whether they know up from down, but many of them don’t seem to know whether they’re Carmen or Cohen ….

But those types of screeds seem to bear some resemblance to talking in tongues – they might think there’s some meaning in the phrases, but the connections to reality seem tenuous at best ….

[Steersman]

Prune news.

http://atheiststoday.com/blogs/elevator ... um=twitter

Holy fuck. You'd think Ophie B lived in a frigging wilderness cave shunning all social interaction with the way she goes on about people attacking and destroying her. The reality is she slings shit all over her blog and Twitter then and cries like baby whenever people respond in kind.
the woman is an insane cunt.

Ophie babes, you don't get to be free from mockery or criticism especially when you call people rape enablers and other equally retarded shit.

This tweet I got a boot out of:

Felix
@Felix3333@micknugent @SallyStrange You've opened a outpost of the slymepit, now with your imprimatur. Your "dialogue" IS the attacks. #nothelping

An outpost! The French Foreign Legion, Fort Zinderneuf, and Beau Geste!

[Steersman]

I think I need to put that book on my reading list as well. It really is a rather surprising state of affairs, if not a worrisome one. You have, no doubt, read his earlier book with Bricmont – I haven’t – but the following quote from a review of it by Dawkins was certainly a jaw-dropping moment for me:
<snip>
The problem of turbulent flow cannot be solved because the conceptions of fluids (and of women) have been formulated so as necessarily to leave unarticulated remainders :shock:

Methinks the barbarians are inside the gates already and well ensconced in academia.

Actually, they are now old-school in most places. The decimation of arts schools in a lot of university cut backs meant only the loudest and meanest still have a gig. Not to say they don't have a say, sometimes a big one, but their time is passing.

Well that is good news and probably consistent with the fact that that book is some 15 years old. Although it also seems plausible that a great many people got brainwashed with such clap-trap so that the effects might still be being felt – notably in the “intersection of feminism with atheism”. And that it might still take some time for the that “poison” to work itself out of the system ….

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... omens-day/

PZ has a blog post up, still thinking the Slymepit is a collective. Honestly, though, I don't really "get" the tweet at all. Actually it's pretty bad from where I'm sitting.

:confusion-shrug:

That tweet is...well... I can' find words to describe how stupid it is. Be ready to screencap because I'm going to say something I rarely do these days: I agree with Myers.

I think I'm starting to understand why this bunch have such bad views of some MRAs.

[Lurkion]

You need something like

Code: Select all

[url]http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/mansplain[/url]

I don't know, chicks wanting to know how to do computer stuff, ridiculous. They'll be wanting us to explain the offside rule next.

Or the value of a good forward defensive stroke.

That's what I do when the missus isn't interested.

Am I thinking of the right thing?

[AndrewV69]

Are they the majority?

Who are "they"?

Whoever the majority happens to be.

(as one aspie to another ... sorry but it was conditional on whoever happens to be the majority )

I was expecting a more targeted response.
Are "they":
* Muslims?
* UK Muslims?
* Muslims as a % of the attendees of the lecture?

I now recognise that I originally asked the incorrect question.

Let me try again:
To which "majority" do you refer?

Be specific. Give examples. You may use a calculator.

Now my aspie alarum bells are ringing. Specific to this event:

What think I know :
- Organized by Muslims of some sort (probably Sunni).
- Security provided by the Uni and directed by the organizers.

Unknown:
- Total Audience attendees
- Sex and religion of attendees

unknown - unknown = unknown
unknown / unknown = unknown
unknown * unknown = unknown
unknown + unknown = unknown

So no matter what I try I just can not get any numbers.

However,

It is reasonable to assume that the majority of the audience followed the seating plan except for three fellows who were ejected and then let back in, and I am not sure where they did eventually sit.

So the majority ruled, whoever they are.


(Do I get a prize?)

[Steersman]

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... omens-day/

PZ has a blog post up, still thinking the Slymepit is a collective. Honestly, though, I don't really "get" the tweet at all. Actually it's pretty bad from where I'm sitting.

:confusion-shrug:

That tweet is...well... I can' find words to describe how stupid it is. Be ready to screencap because I'm going to say something I rarely do these days: I agree with Myers.

I think I'm starting to understand why this bunch have such bad views of some MRAs.

Yes, definitely a dickhead statement on the part of Astrokid, although I’m not sure that some of Myers’ are all that much better. But further evidence that, not surprisingly, a great many people have a very limited understanding of basic statistical distributions, or some difficulty with understanding what the implications are. For instance, Pinker has a very neat description and illustration of that in the context of heights:

With some other traits the differences are small on average but can be large at the extremes [of population distributions]. That happens for two reasons. When two bell curves partly overlap, the farther out along the tail you go, the larger the discrepancies between the groups. For example, men on average are taller than women, and the discrepancy is greater for more extreme values. At a height of five foot ten, men outnumber women by a ratio of thirty to one; at a height of six feet, men outnumber women by a ratio of two thousand to one.

While the average height for the population of men is slightly larger than that for women, there can be significant discrepancies at the tails – and probably for just about any attribute you care to name.

[rayshul]

Now, just because I do not see it does not mean it is not so, but my argument is that unless you compel women to never have children, and force them to do STEM, it is not going to happen. They may have the capability but the majority are simply not interested...

...In the end, I believe most women have no interest in working in STEM fields over having children. The good thing is as far as I can see, there are a lot less barriers preventing those who are interested from doing so.

I definitely don't think that's true, but obviously I can't predict the future!

[Michael K Gray]

- Security provided by the Uni and directed by the organizers.

Not true.
Invalidates your data.

[DownThunder]

Why dont women join a STEM field and build an external uterus?

Problem solved.

[AndrewV69]

Now, just because I do not see it does not mean it is not so, but my argument is that unless you compel women to never have children, and force them to do STEM, it is not going to happen. They may have the capability but the majority are simply not interested...

...In the end, I believe most women have no interest in working in STEM fields over having children. The good thing is as far as I can see, there are a lot less barriers preventing those who are interested from doing so.

I definitely don't think that's true, but obviously I can't predict the future!

I can not predict either. That is why I threw in a weasley words like "believe" and "over having children".

(and BTW ... most men do not do STEM either. Notice that?)

[AndrewV69]

- Security provided by the Uni and directed by the organizers.

Not true.
Invalidates your data.

Looks like I misread this comment then:

Christopher Roche In fact we were still segregated. The women were moved to free up a row and we were sat there. Ucl security helped to enforce the segregation. Shameful!

Another comment which showed up after I last checked:
http://www.richarddawkins.net/foundatio ... ege-london#

I was taken to a small room with IERA security staff and an organiser named Mohammad who told me that the policy was actually given to IERA by UCL.

Hmmmmm?? Really??

(I ignored anything said by OB as I do not consider her a reliable source)

Consider me confused. So what was it then?

[Dick Strawkins]

Another gem from Ophie's thread where she winges about her freeze peaches being compromised:

Could just be the moderator sees it as something it isn’t…and by pointing out the moderator’s flaw, they are just doubling down.

So a moderator enforcing the stated rules of the blog is now the one doubling down.

Do these people have any idea what they sound like? :lol:

Ophelia, I can't see why you should have deleted my post like that...there was nothing objectionable in it...yes, I know it's your blog and your rules...but...look, stop DOUBLING DOWN and being so unreasonable, and put my post back up! It had important information in it, you know. Nothing more that a war on information, so it is! Humph!

Sorry Ophelia,

I guess you can't do linky-linky.

[Lurkion]

dickheads photoshopped onto images of dildos

Sigh.

[windy]

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... omens-day/

PZ has a blog post up, still thinking the Slymepit is a collective. Honestly, though, I don't really "get" the tweet at all. Actually it's pretty bad from where I'm sitting.

:confusion-shrug:

That tweet is...well... I can' find words to describe how stupid it is. Be ready to screencap because I'm going to say something I rarely do these days: I agree with Myers.

I think I'm starting to understand why this bunch have such bad views of some MRAs.

Phil is a MRA (according to PZ), and agrees with PZ! Stop the internet presses!

Yes, that tweet was stupid. But I'm not going to get bent out of shape if some few MRAs have posted here, since PZ has been throwing the "MRA" label at all and sundry it's hard to blame the actual MRAs for getting involved.

deprived by the kind of endemic bigotry that would, for instance, denigrate an entire group of people as “pop-culture hos”

Is it better to denigrate an entire group of people as "entitled little shits" instead?

[Dick Strawkins]

Wowbagger, Designated Snarker

11 March 2013 at 1:58 am (UTC -5)

Those few ‘pitters who are condemning it are only doing so because they know others are watching. That they still choose to associate themselves with a place that’s attractive to people like that is a better indication of their characters.

Well, Wowbagger, if people are looking, perhaps we should give them something to look at...

http://i.imgur.com/ekFUWxP.jpg

[Tony Parsehole]

http://s16.postimage.org/52bmyf4w5/Pit_Quote2.jpg

Fap, fap, fap.

[mordacious1]

It appears that one of the suspects in the Indian rape trial was either murdered or hanged himself after being tortured and raped in jail. I've been reading the comments on Yahoo (I know, mostly morons) and find it disgusting how many people, including women, are glad he was raped and murdered. Rape is bad, prison rape is good. It's mob justice. I posted a few comments (Rob, with a wolf spider avatar there) and got mostly shit for saying that prison rape is bad too. Killing the accused before trial is not so good either.
http://news.yahoo.com/police-delhi-gang ... 45604.html

[DGS]

One of the most impenetrable toon accents ever was Stick in "Spender".

Ahh, Sammy Johnson. RIP

[AndrewV69]

Phil is a MRA (according to PZ), and agrees with PZ! Stop the internet presses!

FFS Phil is not a MRA. This is a joke right?

[Tony Parsehole]

It appears that one of the suspects in the Indian rape trial was either murdered or hanged himself after being tortured and raped in jail. I've been reading the comments on Yahoo (I know, mostly morons) and find it disgusting how many people, including women, are glad he was raped and murdered. Rape is bad, prison rape is good. It's mob justice. I posted a few comments (Rob, with a wolf spider avatar there) and got mostly shit for saying that prison rape is bad too. Killing the accused before trial is not so good either.
http://news.yahoo.com/police-delhi-gang ... 45604.html

Fuck this planet. The most popular comments are the ones that go something like "Grrr... I hate rape and murder so much that those accused of the crime deserve to be raped and murdered!" Dumb twats. Don't they know that those who raped and murdered him are also rapists and murderers?
Let's not forget that he wasn't convicted of the crime either, only accused.
Yay justice!

[Steersman]

Phil is a MRA (according to PZ), and agrees with PZ! Stop the internet presses!

FFS Phil is not a MRA. This is a joke right?

I think Windy is referring to the [suppositional] fact that Myers probably called Phil an MRA some time ago at the time he banned Phil ...

Hence the incogruity ....