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Post by Driftless » Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:01 am

Is this a new way to tar people who disagree with the regressive left? (Summary: cultural marxism is an anti-semitic term coined by the nazis.)

https://fair.org/home/cultural-marxism- ... azi-trope/
What should be shocking is the cavalier way some traditional media, like the Times and the Post, are allowing it to live on their pages. Brooks rebrands cultural Marxism as mere political correctness, giving the Nazi-inspired phrase legitimacy for the American right. It is dropped in or quoted in other stories—some of them lighthearted, like the fashion cues of the alt-right—without describing how fringe this notion is. It’s akin to letting conspiracy theories about chem trails or vaccines get unearned space in mainstream press.

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Post by Service Dog » Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:53 am

InfraRedBucket wrote:
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You appear to be making the same mistake as I did with the telegraph. These are two seperate incidents. Look at the time stamp in your mirror report and my telegraph one, it's from 2013.
The story doing the rounds on 'tinternet is of that one. From what I can gather no footage of this latest attack has been released yet.
I was wrong!

Crap.

I was doing so well playing 'Spot The Differences', except I missed the different year.


Not just different years, different buses in different parts of London. The 2013 one is South London while the recent one was in Camden which is North London.
Fake footage?
Jeez, this is how conspiracy theories start , horse posts wrong link, admittedly corrects himself quickly, others don't bother to comprehend the details then the tin hats are on.
Honestly I hoped we were above this sort of knee jerk reaction , there's enough fake news out there as it is.
Oh, puh-leeeeze. I saw Horse say there where was something wrong with the Telegraph link... so I went looking on my own... & my search terms-- something-like "london bus kiss attack" brought up results from both incidents. I replicated horse's error. This is hardly charging-ahead with a debunked theory, ignoring contrary evidence. "knee-jerk", "tin hat"? Howabout just plain-old 'wrong'?

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Post by Lsuoma » Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:55 am

Lsuoma wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:09 pm
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Do you all have concealed carry in the UK?

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Not saying it is faked, but that picture does not look to me contemporaneous with the attacks as reported.
Apparently a couple more carpet munchers have been beaten up FOR kissing: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hampshire-48572800

:think: :think:

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Post by MarcusAu » Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:56 am

Driftless wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:01 am
Is this a new way to tar people who disagree with the regressive left? (Summary: cultural marxism is an anti-semitic term coined by the nazis.)

https://fair.org/home/cultural-marxism- ... azi-trope/
What should be shocking is the cavalier way some traditional media, like the Times and the Post, are allowing it to live on their pages. Brooks rebrands cultural Marxism as mere political correctness, giving the Nazi-inspired phrase legitimacy for the American right. It is dropped in or quoted in other stories—some of them lighthearted, like the fashion cues of the alt-right—without describing how fringe this notion is. It’s akin to letting conspiracy theories about chem trails or vaccines get unearned space in mainstream press.
aka Cultural Bolshevism

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Post by Bhurzum » Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:03 am

Lsuoma wrote: Apparently a couple more carpet munchers have been beaten up FOR kissing: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hampshire-48572800

:think: :think:
The prime minister, the leader of the opposition, the pope, Roger Waters and the ghost of Mahatma fucking Gandhi are expected to comment shortly... :roll:

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Post by Lsuoma » Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:08 am

Attacked on their way to a performance of their play? Wonder how the play was doing? In need of a bit of publicity, perhaps?

I now coin a new term for suffering something like this: it's called being "Jussied".

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Post by shoutinghorse » Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:50 am

Lsuoma wrote: I now coin a new term for suffering something like this: it's called being "Jussied"
'Sniffing out a Smollett'



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In other news. Looks like Tariffs (or the threat of them) work.


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Post by Fegg » Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:58 am

Peterson uses "post-modern neo-marxism" to mean something like "the theory that all differences in outcome are caused by power differences" and I think a fair bit of the modern US usage of "cultural marxism" has much the same meaning.

The world is manifestly unfair on a whole bunch of different levels, but it is also true that if you try to become a reliable person and work hard there is a really good chance that things will get better for you. Teaching kids that the world is unfair and excluding the idea that fixing themselves is what going to help the most is deeply counterproductive. We do need a word for this, but it probably shouldn't contain the word "marxism."

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Post by MarcusAu » Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:40 am

Fegg wrote:
Peterson uses "post-modern neo-marxism" to mean something like "the theory that all differences in outcome are caused by power differences" and I think a fair bit of the modern US usage of "cultural marxism" has much the same meaning.

The world is manifestly unfair on a whole bunch of different levels, but it is also true that if you try to become a reliable person and work hard there is a really good chance that things will get better for you. Teaching kids that the world is unfair and excluding the idea that fixing themselves is what going to help the most is deeply counterproductive. We do need a word for this, but it probably shouldn't contain the word "marxism."

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Opinion is divided on the meaning and utility of such terms.

Posterity will have to be the judge.

(Though I always get the feeling that people who talk about 'posterity' are usually talking out of their arse).

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Post by fafnir » Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:58 am

MarcusAu wrote:
Driftless wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:01 am
Is this a new way to tar people who disagree with the regressive left? (Summary: cultural marxism is an anti-semitic term coined by the nazis.)

https://fair.org/home/cultural-marxism- ... azi-trope/
What should be shocking is the cavalier way some traditional media, like the Times and the Post, are allowing it to live on their pages. Brooks rebrands cultural Marxism as mere political correctness, giving the Nazi-inspired phrase legitimacy for the American right. It is dropped in or quoted in other stories—some of them lighthearted, like the fashion cues of the alt-right—without describing how fringe this notion is. It’s akin to letting conspiracy theories about chem trails or vaccines get unearned space in mainstream press.
aka Cultural Bolshevism
A thought I keep coming back to that I would express in few other places is - were the Nazi's entirely wrong here? Or at least, do we assume they were entirely wrong too easily simply because they were the Nazis. Personally, I really like the art and culture that was produced in the Germanic world leading up to and following the first world war. I can equally see how one might see much of it as indicative of moral degeneracy, particularly if your perspective was that your society was sliding into chaos and decay.

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Post by MarcusAu » Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:11 pm

I have a soft spot for Dada myself.

Some might classify as it 'degeneracy' - others might say it came about as a rejection of the oh so rational intellectual forces that led to the outbreak of the first world war. If that is where reason leads then a revolt against the very concept of it is required.


nb This is not my thinking - but a summary of my impressions of the movement at the time.

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Post by MarcusAu » Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:25 pm

Presented below for your interest and edification, please find Joe Rogan's recent interview with David Pakman - wherein Social Media, disconnecting from Social Media and Steven Crowder's recent problems with Social Media, amoungst other things, are discussed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIlI-Se-pk8


For those not interested or non willing to undergo edification, please ignore.

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Post by InfraRedBucket » Sun Jun 09, 2019 12:26 pm

Trans "Activist" sacked after a few days - yet again. Maybe xir will actually have to get a proper job next time.
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Transgender activist Munroe Bergdorf says she is "unbelievably sad" that the NSPCC has cut ties with her, days after she revealed she was Childline's "first LGBT+ campaigner".

She said the charity was "bowing down to pressure from a transphobic lobby".

Her appointment had been criticised by some on Twitter, with Ms Bergdorf described as a "porn model" and her appointment called "inappropriate".

The NSPCC has not explained exactly why it made the decision.

But the BBC has been told that NSPCC trustees received "transphobic letters" after the appointment was announced on Wednesday.

In a statement, the NSPCC said Ms Bergdorf "has supported the most recent phase of Childline's campaign which aims to support children with LGBTQ+ concerns" but she would have "no ongoing relationship with Childline or the NSPCC".
However, a number of negative tweets followed the announcement, with several taking offence at Ms Bergdorf having posed for Playboy in 2018.

Some claimed her appointment was "inappropriate" and Times journalist Janice Turner said there would be "cancelled direct debits" in response.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48572955

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Post by Matt Cavanaugh » Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:09 pm

Driftless wrote: Is this a new way to tar people who disagree with the regressive left? (Summary: cultural marxism is an anti-semitic term coined by the nazis.)

https://fair.org/home/cultural-marxism- ... azi-trope/
What should be shocking is the cavalier way some traditional media, like the Times and the Post, are allowing it to live on their pages. Brooks rebrands cultural Marxism as mere political correctness, giving the Nazi-inspired phrase legitimacy for the American right. It is dropped in or quoted in other stories—some of them lighthearted, like the fashion cues of the alt-right—without describing how fringe this notion is. It’s akin to letting conspiracy theories about chem trails or vaccines get unearned space in mainstream press.
"Cultural Marxism" is commonly used to describe Critical Theory and its spawn, which came out of the Frankfurt School, who were a bunch of bed-wetting marxists. So there.

But claiming your interlocutor's lingo is linked to an evil group, therefore they must belong to that evil group, too, is the latest regressive leftist trick. Over the past week, I've been told about 400 times that my use of "SJW" proves I'm a christian conservative. It's getting ridiculous. Next, they'll be claiming that Mussolini coined "vaffanculo'.


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Post by Matt Cavanaugh » Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:17 pm

Cultural Marxism doesn't exist, sez the marxist journalist.
Ari Paul has reported for the Nation, the Guardian, the Forward, the Brooklyn Rail, Vice News, In These Times, Jacobin and many other outlets.

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Post by Matt Cavanaugh » Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:20 pm

How to Be a Marxist
BY
SAMUEL MOYN
Blending Kierkegaard with Hegel and Marx, Martin Hägglund’s This Life offers a new generation of socialists a guide to living a life of radical political commitment.
https://jacobinmag.com/2019/04/this-lif ... -socialism

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Post by Matt Cavanaugh » Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:50 pm

Check out the Straight Pride web site ( :nin: ?) it's hilarious:

http://www.superhappyfunamerica.com

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Post by MarcusAu » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:07 pm

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Check out the Straight Pride web site ( :nin: ?) it's hilarious:

http://www.superhappyfunamerica.com
Sounds like it started as a 4chan troll campaign or a scam. I'm assuming someone will be making money off this.

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Post by InfraRedBucket » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:14 pm

Jeez. Words fail me.


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Post by KiwiInOz » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:51 pm

InfraRedBucket wrote: Jeez. Words fail me.

It has an honourable heritage.


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Post by Lsuoma » Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:28 pm

MM was so sexy in this.



Plus the Greyscale Minstrels!

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Post by KiwiInOz » Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:37 pm

Why the SJW will probably win, and you'll all be eating halal in Europe. An interesting book chapter by Taleb on the dictatorship of the small (intolerant) minority.

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Post by Service Dog » Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:47 pm

InfraRedBucket wrote: Jeez. Words fail me.


He' a Trans-JonBenet.

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Post by MarcusAu » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:09 pm

Lsuoma wrote: MM was so sexy in this.



Plus the Greyscale Minstrels!
And Roy Kinnear!

Strange to think that the B&W minstrels lasted on TV up until 1978.

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Post by MarcusAu » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:41 pm

Panic, Panic! There is no charge of 'Domestic Terrorism' in the US.

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Post by Bhurzum » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:47 pm

Service Dog wrote: He' a Trans-JonBenet.
Anyone know where I can watch a young girl strip for dollar bills?

Oh, hold on, there's somebody at my door...


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Post by Lsuoma » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:52 pm

MarcusAu wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:09 pm
Lsuoma wrote: MM was so sexy in this.



Plus the Greyscale Minstrels!
And Roy Kinnear!

Strange to think that the B&W minstrels lasted on TV up until 1978.
One of the most popular shows ever. Stage show seen by more people than any other ever.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black ... strel_Show

Roy Kinnear was great in "Escape from Stalag Luft 112B".


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Post by Service Dog » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:16 pm

fafnir wrote:
MarcusAu wrote:
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Is this a new way to tar people who disagree with the regressive left? (Summary: cultural marxism is an anti-semitic term coined by the nazis.)
I took a University course on Marxism in 1989 or 90. We sampled all the flavors: Bakunin, Trotsky, Mao, Perestroika.

Regarding the Frankfurt School, we were taught that Marx had a very mechanical, literal, economic view of worker's 'alienation' from the fruits of their labor, under capitalism. Which seemed to be disproven by workers thriving in freedom & prosperity under capitalism-- vs. life in communist companies. And so the Frankfurt School emphasized a more abstract, touchy-feely 'alienation' under capitalism--- the dissatisfaction of a bland suburban life, despite ammenities such as modern appliances or frivolous consumer luxury goods.

Clearly, this could be described as Marx's original 'Economic Marxism', vs. the Frankfurt School's 'Cultural Marxism'. Maybe Economic Alienation and Cultural Alienation would be more-precise terms. But-- Nazi's got nothing to do with it.

Many other academic disciplines such as archeology, comparative literature, film studies, art, women's studies-- and whatever Slavoj Zizek is-- have similarly transposed Marx's original take on Marxism-- into whatever pet-theories each niche of academia felt-like buttressing with quasi-marxist critiques.

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Post by MarcusAu » Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:09 pm

None of which precludes some from using the criticism of 'Cultural Marxism' for their own ends. Or even noting the high number of people of a particular ethnic origin in the Frankfurt school - and attributing nefarious intent to it.

After all, there are plenty of people that are called 'Canadian' that were not born there and didn't pass the citizenship test.

At the very least, the Post-Modernists and the Marxists (cultural or otherwise) are usually understood to be in separate groups.


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Post by Bhurzum » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:40 am

Remember: only white people can be racist.

(read the comments)


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Post by InfraRedBucket » Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:15 am

MarcusAu wrote: I have a soft spot for Dada myself.

Some might classify as it 'degeneracy' - others might say it came about as a rejection of the oh so rational intellectual forces that led to the outbreak of the first world war. If that is where reason leads then a revolt against the very concept of it is required.


nb This is not my thinking - but a summary of my impressions of the movement at the time.
Your were around in Germany in the 1920s? You dont look that old.
In my day job I gave a talk on Dada & Surrealism a few weeks ago,
I described Dada as being like the 1970s punk movement - Nihilistic. anarchistic but with a number of very talented creative individuals who transcended it as it burned itself out.

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Post by MarcusAu » Mon Jun 10, 2019 3:18 am

InfraRedBucket wrote: Your were around in Germany in the 1920s? You dont look that old.
And you look like a ginger pussy!

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Post by Service Dog » Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:26 am

Marxists accusing Anti-Marxists
of anti-Semitism
is a very black kettle...

"What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money.…. Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist. Money degrades all the gods of man – and turns them into commodities…. The bill of exchange is the real god of the Jew. His god is only an illusory bill of exchange…. The chimerical nationality of the Jew is the nationality of the merchant, of the man of money in general."

-- Karl Marx, "On the Jewish Question"



When on holiday in Ramsgate in 1879, Marx reported to Engels that the resort contained “many Jews and fleas.” In an earlier letter to Engels, Marx referred to Ferdinand Lassalle as a “Jewish nigger.”

--Karl Marx and Frederick Engels: Selected Correspondence, 1846-1895



"Thus we find every tyrant backed by a Jew, as is every pope by a Jesuit. In truth, the cravings of oppressors would be hopeless, and the practicability of war out of the question, if there were not an army of Jesuits to smother thought and a handful of Jews to ransack pockets.

… the real work is done by the Jews, and can only be done by them, as they monopolize the machinery of the loanmongering mysteries by concentrating their energies upon the barter trade in securities… Here and there and everywhere that a little capital courts investment, there is ever one of these little Jews ready to make a little suggestion or place a little bit of a loan. The smartest highwayman in the Abruzzi is not better posted up about the locale of the hard cash in a traveler’s valise or pocket than those Jews about any loose capital in the hands of a trader… The language spoken smells strongly of Babel, and the perfume which otherwise pervades the place is by no means of a choice kind.

… Thus do these loans, which are a curse to the people, a ruin to the holders, and a danger to the governments, become a blessing to the houses of the children of Judah. This Jew organization of loan-mongers is as dangerous to the people as the aristocratic organization of landowners… The fortunes amassed by these loan-mongers are immense, but the wrongs and sufferings thus entailed on the people and the encouragement thus afforded to their oppressors still remain to be told.

… The fact that 1855 years ago Christ drove the Jewish moneychangers out of the temple, and that the moneychangers of our age enlisted on the side of tyranny happen again chiefly to be Jews, is perhaps no more than a historical coincidence. The loan-mongering Jews of Europe do only on a larger and more obnoxious scale what many others do on one smaller and less significant. But it is only because the Jews are so strong that it is timely and expedient to expose and stigmatize their organization."

--Karl Marx, "The Russian Loan", New-York Daily Tribune, January 4, 1856



https://www.philosophersmag.com/opinion ... tisemitism

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Post by Service Dog » Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:48 am

MarcusAu wrote: At the very least, the Post-Modernists and the Marxists (cultural or otherwise) are usually understood to be in separate groups.
I am femindef of the anti-Ordan Peterson conference held at a college in Boise Idaho a few months ago... in-which the bigname guest marxist Richard Wolff claimed Peterson was wrong to conflate marxism with post-modernism & feminism.

Except Richard Wolff had published this:
Re/Presenting Class: Essays in Postmodern Marxism https://www.dukeupress.edu/re-presenting-class

And the event emcee was this SJW lolcow gendermess, from a post-modernist club...


And Richard Wolff also published...

Bringing it All Back Home: Class, Gender and Power in the Household Today (New Directions/Rethinking Marxism) "An analysis of relationships between men and women that benefits from the rich traditions of feminism and Marxism, and yet is free from the economic, political and other determinisms that have been so ubiquitous in those traditions."




Class and Its Others, "new and compelling ways to look at class through examinations of such topics as sex work, the experiences of African American women as domestic laborers, and blue- and white-collar workers. Their work acknowledges that individuals may participate in various class relations at one moment or over time and that class identities are multiple and changing." https://www.upress.umn.edu/book-divisio ... its-others







Class, Patriarchy, and Power, "Marxism and Feminism" https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10. ... ode=rrmx20

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Post by MarcusAu » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:08 am

Yah. I had seen a brief interview of Professor Wolf with Abbey Martin (I think) and was not particularly impressed by his thinking.

I'm no fan of Jordan Peterson - but I think that he can be criticised for his lack of precision for some terms (or his lack of knowledge in some areas) - without the whole house of cards coming tumbling down. (Unless one is to assume his theories only make sense as a cohesive whole).

At this stage, I think I would rather gouge my eyes out with a blunt fork than sit through his entire discussion with Zizek.

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Service Dog wrote: Marxists accusing Anti-Marxists
of anti-Semitism
is a very black kettle...

"What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money.…. Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist. Money degrades all the gods of man – and turns them into commodities…. The bill of exchange is the real god of the Jew. His god is only an illusory bill of exchange…. The chimerical nationality of the Jew is the nationality of the merchant, of the man of money in general."

-- Karl Marx, "On the Jewish Question"



When on holiday in Ramsgate in 1879, Marx reported to Engels that the resort contained “many Jews and fleas.” In an earlier letter to Engels, Marx referred to Ferdinand Lassalle as a “Jewish nigger.”

--Karl Marx and Frederick Engels: Selected Correspondence, 1846-1895



"Thus we find every tyrant backed by a Jew, as is every pope by a Jesuit. In truth, the cravings of oppressors would be hopeless, and the practicability of war out of the question, if there were not an army of Jesuits to smother thought and a handful of Jews to ransack pockets.

… the real work is done by the Jews, and can only be done by them, as they monopolize the machinery of the loanmongering mysteries by concentrating their energies upon the barter trade in securities… Here and there and everywhere that a little capital courts investment, there is ever one of these little Jews ready to make a little suggestion or place a little bit of a loan. The smartest highwayman in the Abruzzi is not better posted up about the locale of the hard cash in a traveler’s valise or pocket than those Jews about any loose capital in the hands of a trader… The language spoken smells strongly of Babel, and the perfume which otherwise pervades the place is by no means of a choice kind.

… Thus do these loans, which are a curse to the people, a ruin to the holders, and a danger to the governments, become a blessing to the houses of the children of Judah. This Jew organization of loan-mongers is as dangerous to the people as the aristocratic organization of landowners… The fortunes amassed by these loan-mongers are immense, but the wrongs and sufferings thus entailed on the people and the encouragement thus afforded to their oppressors still remain to be told.

… The fact that 1855 years ago Christ drove the Jewish moneychangers out of the temple, and that the moneychangers of our age enlisted on the side of tyranny happen again chiefly to be Jews, is perhaps no more than a historical coincidence. The loan-mongering Jews of Europe do only on a larger and more obnoxious scale what many others do on one smaller and less significant. But it is only because the Jews are so strong that it is timely and expedient to expose and stigmatize their organization."

--Karl Marx, "The Russian Loan", New-York Daily Tribune, January 4, 1856



https://www.philosophersmag.com/opinion ... tisemitism
Marx war kein Engel.

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Service Dog wrote: Marxists accusing Anti-Marxists
of anti-Semitism
is a very black kettle...

"What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money.…. Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist. Money degrades all the gods of man – and turns them into commodities…. The bill of exchange is the real god of the Jew. His god is only an illusory bill of exchange…. The chimerical nationality of the Jew is the nationality of the merchant, of the man of money in general."

-- Karl Marx, "On the Jewish Question"



When on holiday in Ramsgate in 1879, Marx reported to Engels that the resort contained “many Jews and fleas.” In an earlier letter to Engels, Marx referred to Ferdinand Lassalle as a “Jewish nigger.”

--Karl Marx and Frederick Engels: Selected Correspondence, 1846-1895



"Thus we find every tyrant backed by a Jew, as is every pope by a Jesuit. In truth, the cravings of oppressors would be hopeless, and the practicability of war out of the question, if there were not an army of Jesuits to smother thought and a handful of Jews to ransack pockets.

… the real work is done by the Jews, and can only be done by them, as they monopolize the machinery of the loanmongering mysteries by concentrating their energies upon the barter trade in securities… Here and there and everywhere that a little capital courts investment, there is ever one of these little Jews ready to make a little suggestion or place a little bit of a loan. The smartest highwayman in the Abruzzi is not better posted up about the locale of the hard cash in a traveler’s valise or pocket than those Jews about any loose capital in the hands of a trader… The language spoken smells strongly of Babel, and the perfume which otherwise pervades the place is by no means of a choice kind.

… Thus do these loans, which are a curse to the people, a ruin to the holders, and a danger to the governments, become a blessing to the houses of the children of Judah. This Jew organization of loan-mongers is as dangerous to the people as the aristocratic organization of landowners… The fortunes amassed by these loan-mongers are immense, but the wrongs and sufferings thus entailed on the people and the encouragement thus afforded to their oppressors still remain to be told.

… The fact that 1855 years ago Christ drove the Jewish moneychangers out of the temple, and that the moneychangers of our age enlisted on the side of tyranny happen again chiefly to be Jews, is perhaps no more than a historical coincidence. The loan-mongering Jews of Europe do only on a larger and more obnoxious scale what many others do on one smaller and less significant. But it is only because the Jews are so strong that it is timely and expedient to expose and stigmatize their organization."

--Karl Marx, "The Russian Loan", New-York Daily Tribune, January 4, 1856



https://www.philosophersmag.com/opinion ... tisemitism
Marx war kein Engel.

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Post by BoxNDox » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:58 am

Lsuoma wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:41 pm
Also just noticed that this is statutory - let's hope punitive triples it to $33MM.
Damn right. The only thing that would make it better is if the decimal point slips to the right on appeal. (Yeah, I know it won't happen.)

Because this shit isn't going to stop until one of these colleges is forced into outright bankruptcy, with all their assets, including their property, being sold off to pay the debt.

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Post by Bhurzum » Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:36 am

BoxNDox wrote:
Lsuoma wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:41 pm
Also just noticed that this is statutory - let's hope punitive triples it to $33MM.
Damn right. The only thing that would make it better is if the decimal point slips to the right on appeal. (Yeah, I know it won't happen.)

Because this shit isn't going to stop until one of these colleges is forced into outright bankruptcy, with all their assets, including their property, being sold off to pay the debt.
Is that your hound in the avatar picture?

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Post by Phil_Giordana_FCD » Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:41 am

Going to have diner next week with some friend who used to post here and make funny Hitler videos.

Should I say hi from you people?

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Post by MarcusAu » Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:04 am

Bhurzum wrote:
BoxNDox wrote:
Lsuoma wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:41 pm
Also just noticed that this is statutory - let's hope punitive triples it to $33MM.
Damn right. The only thing that would make it better is if the decimal point slips to the right on appeal. (Yeah, I know it won't happen.)

Because this shit isn't going to stop until one of these colleges is forced into outright bankruptcy, with all their assets, including their property, being sold off to pay the debt.
Is that your hound in the avatar picture?
No, it's his wife. You insensitive bastard.

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Post by Bhurzum » Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:25 am

MarcusAu wrote: Is that your hound in the avatar picture?
No, it's his wife. You insensitive bastard.
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Subtle!

I like it!

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Post by MarcusAu » Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:37 am

I recall Stephen Fry telling a story - in which someone asked a politician why he had a painting of Ken Dodd.

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Post by shoutinghorse » Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:45 am

Milo has dropped a hit piece on our favourite blonde bombshell Lauren Southern and her odd ball gay/trans documentary production team.

https://www.dangerous.com/50638/say-far ... far-right/

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Post by ConcentratedH2O, OM » Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:46 am

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: Going to have diner next week with some friend who used to post here and make funny Hitler videos.

Should I say hi from you people?
Gerfin!! Yes, say hi to whatever the guy's name is. Groffo or Ganfer or something? His masterpieces are missed.

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Post by BoxNDox » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:30 am

Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
How to Be a Marxist
BY
SAMUEL MOYN
Blending Kierkegaard with Hegel and Marx, Martin Hägglund’s This Life offers a new generation of socialists a guide to living a life of radical political commitment.
https://jacobinmag.com/2019/04/this-lif ... -socialism
The reviewer lost me when he referred to Kierkegaard as a "canonical Christian". Even if you ignore his outright attacks on the Lutheran church, Kierkegaard's individualistic view of Christianity is hardly canonical.

As for the book, reviewers have said that he swallows Marxist economic doctrine hook, line, and sinker. I have no time to waste on such drivel.

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Post by Bhurzum » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:39 am

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: Going to have diner next week with some friend who used to post here and make funny Hitler videos.

Should I say hi from you people?
Gerfin!! Yes, say hi to whatever the guy's name is. Groffo or Ganfer or something? His masterpieces are missed.
Glorfindel?

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Post by Matt Cavanaugh » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:08 am

BoxNDox wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
How to Be a Marxist
BY
SAMUEL MOYN
Blending Kierkegaard with Hegel and Marx, Martin Hägglund’s This Life offers a new generation of socialists a guide to living a life of radical political commitment.
https://jacobinmag.com/2019/04/this-lif ... -socialism
The reviewer lost me when he referred to Kierkegaard as a "canonical Christian". Even if you ignore his outright attacks on the Lutheran church, Kierkegaard's individualistic view of Christianity is hardly canonical.

As for the book, reviewers have said that he swallows Marxist economic doctrine hook, line, and sinker. I have no time to waste on such drivel.
Moral of the story: never believe a Marxist, especially when they swear they aren't a Marxist.

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Post by Matt Cavanaugh » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:10 am

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote: Gerfin!! Yes, say hi to whatever the guy's name is. Groffo or Ganfer or something? His masterpieces are missed.
Groffo was one of the Cultural Marx Brothers.

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Post by Fegg » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:11 am

BoxNDox wrote:
The reviewer lost me when he referred to Kierkegaard as a "canonical Christian".
He called him, and Augustine "canonical religious thinkers," I think "canonical" here means that they are central enough to the history of thought that all educated people are supposed to know something about them. He contrasts them with MLK who, despite being a preacher, was a secular rather than a religious thinker.

B.

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Post by Matt Cavanaugh » Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:57 am

Fegg wrote: He called him, and Augustine "canonical religious thinkers," I think "canonical" here means that they are central enough to the history of thought that all educated people are supposed to know something about them.
All I know about St. Augustine is he founded Florida, and I vaguely recall reading Kierkegaard's Out of Africa in college.

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Post by BoxNDox » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:45 pm

Fegg wrote:
BoxNDox wrote:
The reviewer lost me when he referred to Kierkegaard as a "canonical Christian".
He called him, and Augustine "canonical religious thinkers," I think "canonical" here means that they are central enough to the history of thought that all educated people are supposed to know something about them. He contrasts them with MLK who, despite being a preacher, was a secular rather than a religious thinker.

B.
Then he doesn't know that "canonical" has a pretty specific meaning in Christian writings.

Not impressed either way.

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Post by KiwiInOz » Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:30 pm

Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: Going to have diner next week with some friend who used to post here and make funny Hitler videos.

Should I say hi from you people?
Fuck yes. It's been Gluten free here for too long.

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Post by Phil_Giordana_FCD » Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:59 pm

KiwiInOz wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:30 pm
Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote: Going to have diner next week with some friend who used to post here and make funny Hitler videos.

Should I say hi from you people?
Fuck yes. It's been Gluten free here for too long.
Probably doing okay...

"This account has been terminated for multiple or severe violations of Youtube's policy prohibiting hate speech."

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Post by Bhurzum » Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:01 pm

Oh dear, from bad to worse...


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Post by Driftless » Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:04 pm

shoutinghorse wrote: Milo has dropped a hit piece on our favourite blonde bombshell Lauren Southern and her odd ball gay/trans documentary production team.

https://www.dangerous.com/50638/say-far ... far-right/
Ouch! Some former frequent posters here may be upset or feel like they missed out:
Southern, famously, writes very little of her own material, and has often embarked on sexual liaisons with men who have helped her with video scripts or notes for her content. While giving speeches about the “trad life,” which typically refers to fidelity in same-race nuclear families, Southern was, in the indelicate words of one major YouTuber, “throwing herself around what seemed like the entire conservative movement in exchange for help with her writing.” We approached four of the men she has been linked to romantically, each of them a prominent Right-wing media figure in a position to help Southern succeed professionally. All four begged not to be named in this story.
Actually I do remember a book review of her book that was not at all flattering by someone here. I think he called it high-school level prose at best.

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Post by some guy » Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:29 pm

Interesting point being made here.


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