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Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:25 pm
Nb the “natural healing” line in the Silkan abortion of an article is consistent with the “organic diet” Goldy mentioned in 2013 Silman conveniently omits the vital context around the efforts to embrace conventional treatments.

Regardless of what you think of FG, jumping into the same headspace as these SJ assassins is a terrible look.
Okay. They're not all SJW, and to be honest, Faith's assessment of such things as "Canadian Genocide " and the Muslim call to prayer in Bethlehem would have eroded my trust in her in any case. It doesn't seem far-fetched to me that she'd use, and or promote naturopathy. I have no reason to doubt the account of her promoting it, but in the end, it doe ad not matter a great deal. Nor do I have a terribly high opinion of those that attribute their survival to prayer. Call it a character defect if you like. I went to her Twitter to ask her (before thinking twice about it, as it usually backfires horribly, and I'm down to my last and oldest burner account) but instead came across a gem I'll post in the Trump thread.

Look, I haven't seen a great deal of Goldy, but I really wasnt impressed with the character of the bit I saw. My opinion of her shouldn't matter much to you.

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I think she has a need for attention, is sometimes very naively inappropriate and also very impulsive. A risky mix. Plus her obsessive personality has bled into her religion.

But I don’t think she is a Nazi, or fundamentally off-track in her concerns. And she is fulfilling her self appointed mission to evangelise and cut through with her messaging.

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Brive1987 wrote: I think she has a need for attention, is sometimes very naively inappropriate and also very impulsive. A risky mix. Plus her obsessive personality has bled into her religion.

But I don’t think she is a Nazi, or fundamentally off-track in her concerns. And she is fulfilling her self appointed mission to evangelise and cut through with her messaging.
I have a very specific definition of Nazis that excludes her. I have a broader definition of people that support ideas that I believe are racist and wrong, and that includes her. Race-based shit is wrong when SocJus does it, it's wrong when the identitarian right does it. I give no shits about race.

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Is it racist to say I’m unhappy with the cultural changes impacting Australian schools - the result of an Asian orientated fast and furious demographic shift?

:think:

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Brive1987 wrote: Is it racist to say I’m unhappy with the cultural changes impacting Australian schools - the result of an Asian orientated fast and furious demographic shift?

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You'd have to show how they're negatively impacting them. Our local Asians boost the GPA, comprise a good deal of the advanced orchestra and symphony, and at least when I was a chess coach, were some of our top players. Somehow, I'm having trouble finding the negative.

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I'm always leery of "hoards" myself.

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CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: Is it racist to say I’m unhappy with the cultural changes impacting Australian schools - the result of an Asian orientated fast and furious demographic shift?

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You'd have to show how they're negatively impacting them. Our local Asians boost the GPA, comprise a good deal of the advanced orchestra and symphony, and at least when I was a chess coach, were some of our top players. Somehow, I'm having trouble finding the negative.
I’ve already provided a number of examples of how an Asian dominated and aligned education system is making for a less desirable society.
Your premise is that you can have academic benefits while maintaining community norms.

That premise fails here, though I suspect there is absolutely nothing that could be said or shown that would alter your thinking.

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Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: Is it racist to say I’m unhappy with the cultural changes impacting Australian schools - the result of an Asian orientated fast and furious demographic shift?

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You'd have to show how they're negatively impacting them. Our local Asians boost the GPA, comprise a good deal of the advanced orchestra and symphony, and at least when I was a chess coach, were some of our top players. Somehow, I'm having trouble finding the negative.
I’ve already provided a number of examples of how an Asian dominated and aligned education system is making for a less desirable society.
Your premise is that you can have academic benefits while maintaining community norms.

That premise fails here, though I suspect there is absolutely nothing that could be said or shown that would alter your thinking.
Not true. I find I change my mind on a number of things as new evidence comes in, or trends show changes I was unaware of before. You seem to be citing change itself, or a nebulous idea of norms, as undesirable, and that it stems from Asians. In earlier postings, you've alluded to unfair advantages asians get, due to Tiger Moms and Chinese culture.

The fact remains that these challenges may be good, even necessary for kids growing up to compete in a global economy. Pushing academic boundaries is something to be embraced, not derided. The reality is that the Chinese dragon as awakened, and everybody else will have to be on their toes to avoid getting buried. It's always a bit sad when old customs that were socially binding in a good way fall by the wayside, but all societies, all cultures, have to evolve or they'll die sooner rather than later. Unfortunately, these changes can be hard for people that see what those things meant for them and their culture. In addition to some very bad ideas getting buried in this evolution, some culturally good things will fall by the wayside. It's unfortunate. The only thing that will really save these customs is to adapt, to sell the benefits to a larger group of people.

Blues music was dying before white people took up the idiom. Bluegrass was fading until a popular music helped its revival. There are other things that have been preserved and passed on to a new generation, different ethnic groups and even different cultures.

I don't think being reactionary and trying to preserve things simply on the basis of "that's the way it was, it meant something to us" is going to preserve these things. Trying to do it on the basis of race or cultural collectives is going to provoke a backlash and alienate broader society from the very things you're trying to protect. The world is global now, whether we want it or not. We preserve our culture by adapting, not isolating.

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Brive1987 wrote: Is it racist to say I’m unhappy with the cultural changes impacting Australian schools - the result of an Asian orientated fast and furious demographic shift?

:think:
Depends on which group you blame for these changes. And the language that you use, and the intent behind it. And who you are asking to judge you.

But I suspect the question was more than part rhetorical.

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MarcusAu wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: Is it racist to say I’m unhappy with the cultural changes impacting Australian schools - the result of an Asian orientated fast and furious demographic shift?

:think:
Depends on which group you blame for these changes. And the language that you use, and the intent behind it. And who you are asking to judge you.

But I suspect the question was more than part rhetorical.
That reminds me of an oldie: What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?

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Kirbmarc wrote: Jokes aside, Goldy hangs out with Nazis like the Daily Stormer guys, or nutters like Alex Jones, and parrots a lot of their talking points. But then she (or at least some of her fans) want you to believe she has nothing to do with them or their ideas. Curious.
Hey Kirb (and FtP),

Jump to 54:00 for a discussion on the irony of white sharia and the great intersectional war in Britain between Muslims and 🏳️‍🌈 LGBT etc etc


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Newspoll says 25% of NSW voters want to slash population. 16% want more. 55% want a freeze. And I guess 4% stood there slack jawed.

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Meanwhile in Australia:

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Brive1987 wrote: Newspoll says 25% of NSW voters want to slash population. 16% want more. 55% want a freeze. And I guess 4% stood there slack jawed.
Slashing population, eh? Machetes?

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Brive1987 wrote: Newspoll says 25% of NSW voters want to slash population. 16% want more. 55% want a freeze. And I guess 4% stood there slack jawed.
Also, linky please.

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CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: Newspoll says 25% of NSW voters want to slash population. 16% want more. 55% want a freeze. And I guess 4% stood there slack jawed.
Also, linky please.
Apologies, I was on a plane about to take off and in a rush. I’ve lost the link, but the terminology struck me, and was in the original. I’d imagine it was translated from a “major” or “significant” decrease.

Predictably, even though only 16% wanted continued growth the Australian used the numbers to support its long time pitch for an ever bigger Australia.

I have that in hard copy!

http://i.imgur.com/cwW8vDe.jpg

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John Anderson was a forgettable deputy Prime Minister, but he's doing good work these days.


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Uggg


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Since when has incest not been traditional?

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Brive1987 wrote: Uggg

I see two fucked up individuals (assuming they're actually mother and son and not just two weirdos trying to get attention), but I don't see any evidence of anyone wanting to decriminalize this. Not among mainstream politics, not even mainstream SJW politics. Not even PZ is touching this, and he's the pervert who wishes to fuck sea slugs.

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I found out more information on the people in the video. Apparently they really are mother and son (ew), but far from having anyone pushing for the decriminalization of their acts, they've been arrested, plead guilty, have been given three years probation and ordered to stay away from each other.

This looks like the kind of story you'd find on trash TV shows like Jerry Springer or Jeremy Kyle. There's no evidence of anyone pushing for decriminalization of incest, though, even in the Daily Mail article. And knowing how the Daily Mail loves scandals, if there was even a whiff of someone defending those two, they'd have reported it.

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It was a prediction for the next big thing. Gay marriage is ho hum. Trans is getting sorted. The smart money is on incest or consenting boy-love.

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Brive1987 wrote: It was a prediction for the next big thing. Gay marriage is ho hum. Trans is getting sorted. The smart money is on incest or consenting boy-love.
I don't think so. Even in the craziest SocJus outlets (like tumblr) the Next Big Thing are the furries/ "otherkin". Not much saner than the incestuous people, sure, but less likely to lead to fucked up genetics.

And there's no guarantee of a slippery slope. Some trans issues, like trans women in women's sports or trans women demanding that people suck their "girlcocks" lest they're called bigots, are already getting significant pushback even in social justice circles (indeed the "TERFs" are scoring some successes, especially in the UK).

If anything I think that the next "mainstream" SocJus campaign is likely to be against "sexist video games" or "sexist porn", given how in the UK people in the Labour party are already eager to blame surges in knife crimes on the Evil Violence and Sex on the Internet.

If the SocJus thought-leaders decide to go full Sarkeesian they're likely to find some unlikely allies in the conservative ranks, and to actually get anti-porn and anti-violence in video games laws passed.

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It’s about disruption, not rights. Porn is disruption. And surprise, socjus is generally pretty quiet about it. Or it partakes.

No, the feelers are still out for the next big thing.

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Yeah. Total outrage.

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Brive1987 wrote: It was a prediction for the next big thing. Gay marriage is ho hum. Trans is getting sorted. The smart money is on incest or consenting boy-love.
I hear incest holds some appeal for the conservative types.

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Fuckin' libs and their pervy comments. Look up those bastions of Christian marriage, Paul Manafort and Roger Stone, good Trump friends. Sure, some wife swapping, bisexual hijinks, mistresses and cucking out of wives, but nothing really serious.

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Hey, are we mistaking clickbait for cultural trends now? That could be fun.

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Well, at least we have outstanding stalwart Republican and Trump lawyer, he's bound to have good old-fashioned ethics...
The split was sparked by Giuliani’s affair with Dr. Maria Rosa Ryan, who he was supporting
financially.
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny ... story.html

Oopsie.

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Brive1987 wrote: It’s about disruption, not rights. Porn is disruption. And surprise, socjus is generally pretty quiet about it. Or it partakes.

No, the feelers are still out for the next big thing.
What? A lot of feminists are hugely anti-porn. SocJus is very divided over this issue. A lot of conservatives and libertarians defend porn, and similarly partake.

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CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: Hey, are we mistaking clickbait for cultural trends now? That could be fun.
Not just clickbait. Trashy tabloid clickbait.

Bring back Bigfoot!

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Kirbmarc wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: Hey, are we mistaking clickbait for cultural trends now? That could be fun.
Not just clickbait. Trashy tabloid clickbait.

Bring back Bigfoot!
Kirb, Bigfoot's never been gone. All you have to do is believe.

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free thoughtpolice wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: It was a prediction for the next big thing. Gay marriage is ho hum. Trans is getting sorted. The smart money is on incest or consenting boy-love.
I hear incest holds some appeal for the conservative types.
https..://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EPEkk6qWkg
My money is on kiddie fiddling being the next big news.


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CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: Hey, are we mistaking clickbait for cultural trends now? That could be fun.
Not just clickbait. Trashy tabloid clickbait.

Bring back Bigfoot!
Kirb, Bigfoot's never been gone. All you have to do is believe.
The current unicorn in season is the magical trump family indictment.

Hunters claim droppings and produce blob o vision. But they never bring in a scalp.

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Brive wrote:
My money is on kiddie fiddling being the next big news.


You wouldn't want Trump walking in to a dressing room where your daughter was changing would you?

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So 2016.

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So deflection. Timeless and axiomatic.

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Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: Hey, are we mistaking clickbait for cultural trends now? That could be fun.
Not just clickbait. Trashy tabloid clickbait.

Bring back Bigfoot!
Kirb, Bigfoot's never been gone. All you have to do is believe.
The current unicorn in season is the magical trump family indictment.

Hunters claim droppings and produce blob o vision. But they never bring in a scalp.
But you admit that the evidence points to Trump's guilt, regardless of any pending indictments?

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https://news.gallup.com/poll/1660/immigration.aspx

How Americans feel about immigration.

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We are talking Trump right? Mr gold letters, the Taj, Apprentice, big boobed model wives (upgraded as necessary), barbie-cold Nazi daughter, bombastic, men’s club Trump? The dude who bought Mar-a-Lago to stick it up the neighbouring estabs as he blasted music into the night?

This package came pre-prepared for bullshit and graft. That was the disruptive force unleashed. “Come in Emperor Trump with your pussy grabbing ways, your family appointees and your disregard for legal niceties and deliver us a paradigm breaking MAGA - garnished with salty teared progressive wails”.

Trump’s problems centre on his constrained ability to be the CEO given his Board are interfering with operations. And the competitors are firebombing his office and continually swatting him.

None of his voters care if he shafted Hillary or employed illegals back in the day. Just like they didn’t care about the conga line of “victims” or his tape. In fact It would be disappointing, from a brand perspective, if he didn’t operate true to form.

What actually matters is how close he can come to delivering his election promises and, when he comes up short, how effectively he can blame the ‘tards. Oh and staying out of jail - away from these elusive indictments.

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It seems that Trump has metastasized from his containment facility.

I can only assume because the office of the president can be viewed as a kind of fetish or totem for the national identity of America (and perhaps the western world) itself.


"As above, so below" - and all that.


Alternatively, in America (cf. Gaul) government was divided into three parts - to balance the powers and avoid an imperial type rule. Which Americans at the time decided they had had enough off. Currently the limits of this system are being tested (eg the executive order to appropriate funds to 'build the wall').

In the long term we'll have to see what the effect is on the caliber of candidates to elected office. And how the Trumpian legacy should be viewed.

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Heh, I remember when we used to have some sense of morality in politics, that we expected our elected leaders to at least pay lip service to our political ideals. That no person was above the law.

Of course, these disrupted norms, these blatant transgressions, they will be remembered. They've shifted to window of acceptability, and there's no reset switch. So when a Democrat gets voted in, and things get crazy...remember, you asked for it.

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Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: Hey, are we mistaking clickbait for cultural trends now? That could be fun.
Not just clickbait. Trashy tabloid clickbait.

Bring back Bigfoot!
Kirb, Bigfoot's never been gone. All you have to do is believe.
The current unicorn in season is the magical trump family indictment.

Hunters claim droppings and produce blob o vision. But they never bring in a scalp.
You do understand why that is, no? The moment Trump or his family gets indicted, he'll shut down the investigation, regardless of the fallout. He will either produce the "smocking " gun, and let Congress do its job, or drop the indictments and report closely together. Anything else just gets a premature end to the investigation. Mueller is a pro, with lots of experience.

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"Mueller will either produce..."
Coffee, please!

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I just watched the "hard hitting, fast paced" documentary made by some pals of Faith Goldy; Laura Loomer and Jacob Wohl. Jacob Wahl as you may recall is the alt-right's answer to Jussie Smollet. At 12:30 in this incisive documentary you can see Wohl committing a crime which will hopefully get his stupid ass thrown in jail. :lol:
I recommend watching the whole thing. It is an eye opener at how the alt-journalist/ citizen journalist types come up with the stuff that "informs" the goofy alt-right morons that follow them. It is also so pathetic it is kind of funny.
https://vimeo.com/323349755

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CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: Heh, I remember when we used to have some sense of morality in politics, that we expected our elected leaders to at least pay lip service to our political ideals. That no person was above the law.

Of course, these disrupted norms, these blatant transgressions, they will be remembered. They've shifted to window of acceptability, and there's no reset switch. So when a Democrat gets voted in, and things get crazy...remember, you asked for it.
I’d have thought you would have seen this using the same lens as that applied to Australian immigration policy.

“You made your bed, now lie in it”

I’m glad you feel different.

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Hey Brive! Aren't you going to defend Faith's goofy friends Jacob Wohl and Laura Loomer? :P

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free thoughtpolice wrote: Hey Brive! Aren't you going to defend Faith's goofy friends Jacob Wohl and Laura Loomer? :P
I’d have to invest time working out who they are, beyond Loomer being hated by the alt-right as a Jew-dog.
I assume the crime to be investigated is “guilt by association” - or is there a material Goldy angle?

You will note that I spend less time on holistic defence than on redressing poorly constructed criticisms.

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I hope this incredibly informed group of survey respondents don’t happen upon black crime statistics!

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Brive wrote:
I’d have to invest time working out who they are, beyond Loomer being hated by the alt-right as a Jew-dog.
I assume the crime to be investigated is “guilt by association” - or is there a material Goldy angle?
Pretty much guilt by association. they both worked at Rebel media.

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Brive1987 wrote:
I hope this incredibly informed group of survey respondents don’t happen upon black crime statistics!
You do know that most blacks are already citizens, and enjoy the protections of CONTUS? Not the same thing at all.

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free thoughtpolice wrote: Brive wrote:
I’d have to invest time working out who they are, beyond Loomer being hated by the alt-right as a Jew-dog.
I assume the crime to be investigated is “guilt by association” - or is there a material Goldy angle?
Pretty much guilt by association. they both worked at Rebel media.
Their sex tape was only so-so. Goldy was surprisingly good, very limber, but Loomer?...should have been Gloomer. Conservative girls can be very startlingly diverse, sexually.

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free thoughtpolice wrote: I just watched the "hard hitting, fast paced" documentary made by some pals of Faith Goldy; Laura Loomer and Jacob Wohl. Jacob Wahl as you may recall is the alt-right's answer to Jussie Smollet. At 12:30 in this incisive documentary you can see Wohl committing a crime which will hopefully get his stupid ass thrown in jail. :lol:
I recommend watching the whole thing. It is an eye opener at how the alt-journalist/ citizen journalist types come up with the stuff that "informs" the goofy alt-right morons that follow them. It is also so pathetic it is kind of funny.
https://vimeo.com/323349755
That was painful. I've seen better amateur bigfoot videos.

On VHS.

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CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
I hope this incredibly informed group of survey respondents don’t happen upon black crime statistics!
You do know that most blacks are already citizens, and enjoy the protections of CONTUS? Not the same thing at all.
That’s so post Dred Scott, you crazy diamond.

For homicide, blacks offend 8 times more than whites. If we assume most legal immigrants aren’t black, then I’d agree it’s likely they murder less on average than this group. It’s a stupid headline.

The normal point is that even one homicide by an illegal is a wholly preventable crime and an unacceptable statistic.

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Well, Brive, you are now in the same position the moderate Muslim is in after an Islamic attack. A hateful ideology is borne to its natural conclusion. I have to wonder if the horseshoe theory seems to make more sense to you now.

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“Free T Police is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Australians entering Canada until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on.”

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free thoughtpolice wrote: “Free T Police is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Australians entering Canada until our country's representatives can figure out what the hell is going on.”
Have you considered keeping a close watch on those already there? While deportations look bad, we must consider the Greeks and the Muslims....

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I'd say that's definitely true of ethnic nationalism. Brive's bête noire, civic nationalism, is instead about acknowledging one's duties and obligations as an individual to a civic collective, defined by laws, principles and rights. So you can save the baby of collective, goal-oriented actions by throwing out the ethnic bathwater.

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