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John D wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: Let's address this right-wing violence. Twitter and MAGA heads everywhere are going nuts over Smollett, but a plan to assassinate left politicians and pundits gets quietly swept under the table. TDS writ large over all, but let's get distracted by a B-List factor looking for attention. Squirrel!
I don't agree that the Right-wing nut job Coast Guard guy is being swept away. It was the second lead story yesterday on Fox's Special Report. They showed the number of guns the guy had, and explained about his notes about who he would target.

People know that there are nut jobs out there and this is the latest one. While this is a story about a horrible person, people have come to expect to find a wack-job like this every once in a while. To me, the real story on this Coast Guard guy would be to find out how the caught the guy before he hurt anyone. Good policing for the win! So, while this is a terrible man, few people are really surprised by this story.

The biggest reason, IMHO, the Smollett story is getting so much attention is that it is very unusual. The ego of Smollett is almost staggering. Go back and watch his interview. Wow. The other interesting thing is how fucking stupid the Nigerian brothers are. I laughed for a good solid minute when I heard the cops were able to find the magazines in their apartment that had the letters cut out of them. So... haha... they sent a fake threatening letter... and used magazine letters to make it untraceable... and... they didn't destroy the magazines. They just left them in their apartment. Haha.... what idiots. Cosmic level stupidity.... really.

The other reason the story is interesting is how the left is not condemning Smollett. They should be just as angry as the right... actually... they "should" be more angry with him. But, all the lefty people can say is something like "Well... okay... it didn't really happen....BUT... it COULD have happened." Pathetic.
I’m still trying to understand the broader relevance. Was the idiot’s plans in alignment with MSM themes or direct political clarion calls? Does it demonstrate a growing and tolerated assassination movement?

Energised politics is like fly paper and America has plenty of blowies on the wing.

If the dude was going to do a clearing patrol along the border there may have been a more meaningful connection. Especially if he formed the tip of a discernible spear. Are vigilante Trump inspired Texan modern squads on the rise?

CFB hasn’t enacted any labour - and thus hasn’t raised let alone proved a point.

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Murder not modern. Grrr.

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The uncritical MSM / Democrat embrace of the ‘modern day lynching’ so soon after the embarrassment of Covington makes their bias appear less like ineptitude and more like agenda.

That should be an inescapable perception ...

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Brive wrote:
Assuming Trump is reptilian illustrates the inherent absurdity of assuming whatever you want without hard evidence.
My speculating that Abe may have received some relief from tariffs because of his sucking up to Trump is hardly in the realm of reptilian conspiracies. Abe has been very friendly to Trump and has been playing to Trump's ego from the beginning by going out of his way to be friendly and not to criticize him.
As for your ability to craft a sentence that makes sense; you lost it on the reptilian sentence.

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free thoughtpolice wrote: Brive wrote:
Assuming Trump is reptilian illustrates the inherent absurdity of assuming whatever you want without hard evidence.
My speculating that Abe may have received some relief from tariffs because of his sucking up to Trump is hardly in the realm of reptilian conspiracies. Abe has been very friendly to Trump and has been playing to Trump's ego from the beginning by going out of his way to be friendly and not to criticize him.
As for your ability to craft a sentence that makes sense; you lost it on the reptilian sentence.
ht...tps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_mDTLphIVY
Commas are hard work, best used when dealing with idiots. I’m sure you understood my point.

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Commas are hard work, best used when dealing with idiots. I’m sure you understood my point.
I should have used a comma instead of a semicolon. Not really hard work, more of a minor mistake that doesn't really make my point that hard to understand. At least I'm not being pretentious and thinking that making garbled and/or intentionally obscure prose makes one look clever. :lol:

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free thoughtpolice wrote:
Commas are hard work, best used when dealing with idiots. I’m sure you understood my point.
I should have used a comma instead of a semicolon. Not really hard work, more of a minor mistake that doesn't really make my point that hard to understand. At least I'm not being pretentious and thinking that making garbled and/or intentionally obscure prose makes one look clever. :lol:
Wasn’t referencing your usage, rather I was explaining what would have made my sentence work.

At least it flushed out your curious sensitivity to (and suspicion of) discussion or language that rises above inane chatter. And your predisposition to reflexive ad hominem. Neither are a good look.

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Brive1987 wrote: The uncritical MSM / Democrat embrace of the ‘modern day lynching’ so soon after the embarrassment of Covington makes their bias appear less like ineptitude and more like agenda.

That should be an inescapable perception ...
Here's a piece to satisfy your soul.
https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2019/0 ... y-bad-tale#
One thing (actual) liberals are much better at than conservatives is introspection. You might note as I tell you, once again, that the far left righteously(and rightfully) reject the label "liberal." That certain conservatives still lump them together speaks to either a pathological need to demonize, or insufficient an insufficient grasp to understand anything other than "left bad."

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free thoughtpolice wrote: Brive wrote:
Assuming Trump is reptilian illustrates the inherent absurdity of assuming whatever you want without hard evidence.
My speculating that Abe may have received some relief from tariffs because of his sucking up to Trump is hardly in the realm of reptilian conspiracies. Abe has been very friendly to Trump and has been playing to Trump's ego from the beginning by going out of his way to be friendly and not to criticize him.
As for your ability to craft a sentence that makes sense; you lost it on the reptilian sentence.
Everybody plays Trump. He's not exactly the world's most respected leader-
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source= ... 3895572059

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I was thinking about this today and it occurred to me that I remember almost the same situation playing out during the run up to the 2008 election.

https://cdn.nashvillescene.com/files/ba ... 20todd.jpg

I guess we'll see more and more of this shit, the more people fetishize victimhood, and the more people assign guilt by association.

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Hey everyone - why not chill out with some 'comedy'?...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNexgXJpeuM

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The great white hope.



Daniel Ortega
A Marxist–Leninist, his first period in office was characterized by a controversial program of nationalization, land reform, wealth redistribution and literacy programs.
he remained an important figure in Nicaraguan opposition politics, gradually moderating in his political position from Marxism–Leninism to democratic socialism.
Sounds like the perfect Democrat candidate. He even has the ethnic badge of authenticity.

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Prominent conservative and Republican political operative Roger Stone pulls a Jussie Smollet and the conservative alt-media breathlessly reports it.
One thing about the Smollet case, after it was determined to be a hoax the MSM has spent as much, if not more time reporting on the deception.

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Brive1987 wrote: The great white hope.



Daniel Ortega
A Marxist–Leninist, his first period in office was characterized by a controversial program of nationalization, land reform, wealth redistribution and literacy programs.
he remained an important figure in Nicaraguan opposition politics, gradually moderating in his political position from Marxism–Leninism to democratic socialism.
Sounds like the perfect Democrat candidate. He even has the ethnic badge of authenticity.
People change over time. Trump used to be a Democrat.
https://www.thoughtco.com/was-donald-tr ... at-3367571
He's always been a sleazeball.

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Brive wrote:
At least it flushed out your curious sensitivity to (and suspicion of) discussion or language that rises above inane chatter. And your predisposition to reflexive ad hominem. Neither are a good look.
The sentence I pointed out didn't rise above inane chatter, and in fact was well below the standard of inane chatter and barely made it to word salad.
You compare my speculation on whether Japan has been getting special favors from the US because of Abe stroking Trump's ego to some paranoid fantasy which I guess you think makes you look good but when I point out that your word salad and obscurantism makes you look like a phony you go into victim mode and claim ad hominem.
You can dish it out but apparently can't take it.

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Global warming, pretty cool, amirite?

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CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: The great white hope.

https..://twitter.com/realjameswoods/status/1098873680195596288?s=21

Daniel Ortega
A Marxist–Leninist, his first period in office was characterized by a controversial program of nationalization, land reform, wealth redistribution and literacy programs.
he remained an important figure in Nicaraguan opposition politics, gradually moderating in his political position from Marxism–Leninism to democratic socialism.
Sounds like the perfect Democrat candidate. He even has the ethnic badge of authenticity.
People change over time. Trump used to be a Democrat.
https://www.thoughtco.com/was-donald-tr ... at-3367571
He's always been a sleazeball.
You think Trump is GOP? :lol:

The Republicans didn’t notice the face-hugger they were wearing until it burst out their stomach in the Primaries.

Re your other point. Hanoi Jane didn’t change much. Bernie2020 sounds very similar to Bernie1985 and Noriega-redux.
The point being that the Dems are weirdly regressing to University level maturity “Socialist-lite”. With a side helping of SocJus.

What the hell is Biden playing at? Children need a daddy.



Read that as you will .... :mrgreen:

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Three weeks too late. The left are playing multiple streams of defence now, one string of which is throw their boy to the gutter.

Much as they did in Virginia until they realised it was sleeze all the way down.

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free thoughtpolice wrote: Brive wrote:
At least it flushed out your curious sensitivity to (and suspicion of) discussion or language that rises above inane chatter. And your predisposition to reflexive ad hominem. Neither are a good look.
The sentence I pointed out didn't rise above inane chatter, and in fact was well below the standard of inane chatter and barely made it to word salad.
You compare my speculation on whether Japan has been getting special favors from the US because of Abe stroking Trump's ego to some paranoid fantasy which I guess you think makes you look good but when I point out that your word salad and obscurantism makes you look like a phony you go into victim mode and claim ad hominem.
You can dish it out but apparently can't take it.
I criticised your assumption based argument. Not your literacy. Now I’m not in tears over your response. But your tendency to adhom in the midst of a normal debate is worth remarking on. Yes, a good insult is always a useful weapon. But wasn’t your game.

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Yeah. That sounds like a clever constitution based move.

And these are the Dems that bitch about Trumps use of (weakly defined) emergency powers? :lol:

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CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: The great white hope.

https..://twitter.com/realjameswoods/status/1098873680195596288?s=21

Daniel Ortega
A Marxist–Leninist, his first period in office was characterized by a controversial program of nationalization, land reform, wealth redistribution and literacy programs.
he remained an important figure in Nicaraguan opposition politics, gradually moderating in his political position from Marxism–Leninism to democratic socialism.
Sounds like the perfect Democrat candidate. He even has the ethnic badge of authenticity.
People change over time. Trump used to be a Democrat.
https://www.thoughtco.com/was-donald-tr ... at-3367571
He's always been a sleazeball.
It seems Democrat number 2 and 3 want to pay reparations for slavery. Or so says the NY Times. https://nypost.com/2019/02/22/kamala-ha ... r-slavery/

CFB is there anything you really disagree with (in sentiment) with this take:


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Brive1987 wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote: Brive wrote:
At least it flushed out your curious sensitivity to (and suspicion of) discussion or language that rises above inane chatter. And your predisposition to reflexive ad hominem. Neither are a good look.
The sentence I pointed out didn't rise above inane chatter, and in fact was well below the standard of inane chatter and barely made it to word salad.
You compare my speculation on whether Japan has been getting special favors from the US because of Abe stroking Trump's ego to some paranoid fantasy which I guess you think makes you look good but when I point out that your word salad and obscurantism makes you look like a phony you go into victim mode and claim ad hominem.
You can dish it out but apparently can't take it.
I criticised your assumption based argument. Not your literacy. Now I’m not in tears over your response. But your tendency to adhom in the midst of a normal debate is worth remarking on. Yes, a good insult is always a useful weapon. But wasn’t your game.
I assume Trump is a stealth reptilian and then deal with it. Maybe there is a group we could join?
Well you kind of clumsily tried to imply that I believed in reptilian conspiracies and should join a group with you? Of course that is so poorly worded that when someone tries to make sense of it you could always be coy and come back with the "that isn't what I mean" game. Of course recently you haven't been pulling your old passive aggressive trick of pretending that the problem isn't your muddied disconnected prose but has to do with the literacy of the reader. Good to see you aren't trying to pull that stinker anymore.
It doesn't bother me to see you compare my speculation about the Trump/Abe relationship to a crazy reptilian theory, just don't pretend that is any less of an ad hominem attack than my criticizing your obscurantism . Nice try Brive but you are no more an innocent victim of some bad old libtard's ad hominem attack than Jussie Smollet was a victim of the MAGA mob.
But wasn’t your game.
That isn't a complete sentence. It doesn't make sense, even in context with the previous sentence. This is the criticism I was giving you that you decided was ad hominem. Are you not being purposefully obscure? I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming you are capable of writing clear, complete sentences that don't need a crystal ball to make sense of.

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Brive1987 wrote:
Yeah. That sounds like a clever constitution based move.

And these are the Dems that bitch about Trumps use of (weakly defined) emergency powers? :lol:
You didn't read the actual article, did you?

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Brive1987 wrote:
Three weeks too late. The left are playing multiple streams of defence now, one string of which is throw their boy to the gutter.

Much as they did in Virginia until they realised it was sleeze all the way down.
Your generalization of the left as a united whole whereas the right to be full of nuanced positions is disengenous at best. It smacks of pure tribalism. You bitch vociferously when you're compared to elements of the far-right, but have no problem lumping the entire left as a homogenous whole. It's getting very hard to take you seriously anymore.

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Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: The great white hope.

https..://twitter.com/realjameswoods/status/1098873680195596288?s=21

Daniel Ortega
A Marxist–Leninist, his first period in office was characterized by a controversial program of nationalization, land reform, wealth redistribution and literacy programs.
he remained an important figure in Nicaraguan opposition politics, gradually moderating in his political position from Marxism–Leninism to democratic socialism.
Sounds like the perfect Democrat candidate. He even has the ethnic badge of authenticity.
People change over time. Trump used to be a Democrat.
https://www.thoughtco.com/was-donald-tr ... at-3367571
He's always been a sleazeball.
It seems Democrat number 2 and 3 want to pay reparations for slavery. Or so says the NY Times. https://nypost.com/2019/02/22/kamala-ha ... r-slavery/

CFB is there anything you really disagree with (in sentiment) with this take:

I'm not giving that gent any views, thanks. I try to leave the nutters be. I do (As do many Democrats) disagree strongly on the issue of reperarations. You may note many candidates take semi-ridiculous positions as candidates that no serious person expects them to fulfil. Like having Mexico pay for a wall...

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Brive wrote:
It seems Democrat number 2 and 3 want to pay reparations for slavery. Or so says the NY Times. https://nypost.com/2019/02/22/kamala-ha ... r-slavery/
Actually that was the NY Post and not the Times. Very different papers. If you actually read the article, neither Harris or Warren call for reparations. The reparations thing is just a dishonest headline. Whether you agree with the programs designed to pull blacks out of poverty or not they are not the same thing as reparations, which I can pretty much guarantee no one in the DNC endorses. Of course that creepy sack of shit Tarl Warwick, Dark Lord of Lib Pwning just repeats the lie and his gullible fans gobble it right up.

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CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: You may note many candidates take semi-ridiculous positions as candidates that no serious person expects them to fulfil.
They do this to establish a strong position from which to negotiate / make concessions from. I believe it's called "The Art of the Deal".

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MarcusAu wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:17 pm
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: You may note many candidates take semi-ridiculous positions as candidates that no serious person expects them to fulfil.
They do this to establish a strong position from which to negotiate / make concessions from. I believe it's called "The Art of the Deal".
If only Trump had ever read it...he got played by Pelosi, lost his wall and made conservatives angry-

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 682535002/

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CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:52 pm
Brive1987 wrote:
Yeah. That sounds like a clever constitution based move.

And these are the Dems that bitch about Trumps use of (weakly defined) emergency powers? :lol:
You didn't read the actual article, did you?
Did too. Which is where I found the constitutional concerns.

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free thoughtpolice wrote: Brive wrote:
It seems Democrat number 2 and 3 want to pay reparations for slavery. Or so says the NY Times. https://nypost.com/2019/02/22/kamala-ha ... r-slavery/
Actually that was the NY Post and not the Times. Very different papers. If you actually read the article, neither Harris or Warren call for reparations. The reparations thing is just a dishonest headline. Whether you agree with the programs designed to pull blacks out of poverty or not they are not the same thing as reparations, which I can pretty much guarantee no one in the DNC endorses. Of course that creepy sack of shit Tarl Warwick, Dark Lord of Lib Pwning just repeats the lie and his gullible fans gobble it right up.
Thank you and see! That’s the benefit of providing backing for a POV.

We must confront the dark history of slavery and government-sanctioned discrimination in this country that has had many consequences including undermining the ability of Black families to build wealth in America for generations,” said Warren in a statement.

“Black families have had a much steeper hill to climb — and we need systemic, structural changes to address that.”
Interesting framing.

So society is going to divert money to blacks to equalise the impost of slavery and Jim Crow.

:think:

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CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: The great white hope.

https..://twitter.com/realjameswoods/status/1098873680195596288?s=21

Daniel Ortega
A Marxist–Leninist, his first period in office was characterized by a controversial program of nationalization, land reform, wealth redistribution and literacy programs.
he remained an important figure in Nicaraguan opposition politics, gradually moderating in his political position from Marxism–Leninism to democratic socialism.
Sounds like the perfect Democrat candidate. He even has the ethnic badge of authenticity.
People change over time. Trump used to be a Democrat.
https://www.thoughtco.com/was-donald-tr ... at-3367571
He's always been a sleazeball.
It seems Democrat number 2 and 3 want to pay reparations for slavery. Or so says the NY Times. https://nypost.com/2019/02/22/kamala-ha ... r-slavery/

CFB is there anything you really disagree with (in sentiment) with this take:

https..://youtu.be/E5npgbOD2RY
I'm not giving that gent any views, thanks. I try to leave the nutters be.
I’ll leave you to ponder the circularities and siloed thinking in that statement. Needless to say your POV will never be great again inside a bubble.

Mexico paying for the wall was a logistical aspiration set against a core promise. A core promise Trump was forced to shut the gift down in pursuit of and now is being sued over. I’d encourage you to consider the core platforms of your new mates.

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Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:52 pm
Brive1987 wrote:
Yeah. That sounds like a clever constitution based move.

And these are the Dems that bitch about Trumps use of (weakly defined) emergency powers? :lol:
You didn't read the actual article, did you?
Did too. Which is where I found the constitutional concerns.
Articulate those concerns.

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Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: The great white hope.

https..://twitter.com/realjameswoods/status/1098873680195596288?s=21

Daniel Ortega
A Marxist–Leninist, his first period in office was characterized by a controversial program of nationalization, land reform, wealth redistribution and literacy programs.
he remained an important figure in Nicaraguan opposition politics, gradually moderating in his political position from Marxism–Leninism to democratic socialism.
Sounds like the perfect Democrat candidate. He even has the ethnic badge of authenticity.
People change over time. Trump used to be a Democrat.
https://www.thoughtco.com/was-donald-tr ... at-3367571
He's always been a sleazeball.
It seems Democrat number 2 and 3 want to pay reparations for slavery. Or so says the NY Times. https://nypost.com/2019/02/22/kamala-ha ... r-slavery/

CFB is there anything you really disagree with (in sentiment) with this take:

https..://youtu.be/E5npgbOD2RY
I'm not giving that gent any views, thanks. I try to leave the nutters be.
I’ll leave you to ponder the circularities and siloed thinking in that statement. Needless to say your POV will never be great again inside a bubble.

Mexico paying for the wall was a logistical aspiration set against a core promise. A core promise Trump was forced to shut the gift down in pursuit of and now is being sued over. I’d encourage you to consider the core platforms of your new mates.
At least half the people I follow and over half of my followers on Twitter are conservative or pro-Trump. Many of the news sources I watch in real life are strongly Republican. But I don't like giving views to fucking nutters, and I have neither the time nor attention span to waste.

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CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Global warming, pretty cool, amirite?
Pfft. Wildfires, ecological disruption, ocean acidification, rising sea levels, more frequent extreme weather events, and desertification of arable land are all a bunch of libtard distractions. The real crisis is brown next door neighbors.

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Old_ones wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Global warming, pretty cool, amirite?
Pfft. Wildfires, ecological disruption, ocean acidification, rising sea levels, more frequent extreme weather events, and desertification of arable land are all a bunch of libtard distractions. The real crisis is brown next door neighbors.
No. Cultural Collectives™. Wherein the problem with our neighbors is that we are only members of a collective, not actual individuals that may have ideals and aspirations differing from that collective. All Mexicans are lawless, all Muslums jihadists, all Chinese part of the scary yellow menace. White people are naturally democratic, freedom-loving souls, but, alas, the vast unwashed hordes outside that pale collective will naturally undermine that democracy*. So we need to kill democracy in order to save it. Kissinger would be very proud. We can safely ignore the upcoming ecological collapse as long as we're certain we have a highly ineffective wall. Despite port-of-entry issues, we will concentrate on that wall because it's a symbol of American freedom, or just a symbol that's easy for the reality impaired to remember.

Look, nothing against brown people, it's just that they need to remember that they should remember their place. We didn't conquer them in America, Australia or New Zealand only to have to deal with other brown people now. We stole this land, fair & square. Democratic norms and the rule of law seemed like a good idea, but look what it got us; ads in Chinese! Instead of addressing rampant immigration problems, we'll just decide that all brown people are bad, rather than focusing on those that actually are. Let's face it, it's tons easier. Nuance is hard.

We've been all wrong on identity politics, boys. We need to embrace the hate, let it flow through us. Somehow we'll still survive in a global economy through a little thing I like to call magical thinking. I'm pretty sure it always works; look at prayer!

*Korea, Japan, various other nations are excluded for reasons, very good reasons. If you have to ask, you don't deserve to know. Neener.

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CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:52 pm
Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: h..ttps://mobile.twitter.com/thehill/status/1099042400033558529
Yeah. That sounds like a clever constitution based move.

And these are the Dems that bitch about Trumps use of (weakly defined) emergency powers? :lol:
You didn't read the actual article, did you?
Did too. Which is where I found the constitutional concerns.
Articulate those concerns.
Sir! Yes Sir! :lol:

You have a weird sense of entitlement for someone who won’t watch a video due to pre-judgement. :bjarte:

Read your own damn article and fluro the relevant paragraph. It’s starts with ..
However, others have argued the bill is unconstitutional and opens the door for more demands for candidates in the future.

“Today ...

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CFB, it’s never occurred to me to ask, not being top of mind, but are you a poc?

It could help me understand your .... sensitivity to, and obsession with, race.

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Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 2:52 pm
Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: h..ttps://mobile.twitter.com/thehill/status/1099042400033558529
Yeah. That sounds like a clever constitution based move.

And these are the Dems that bitch about Trumps use of (weakly defined) emergency powers? :lol:
You didn't read the actual article, did you?
Did too. Which is where I found the constitutional concerns.
Articulate those concerns.
Sir! Yes Sir! :lol:

You have a weird sense of entitlement for someone who won’t watch a video due to pre-judgement. :bjarte:

Read your own damn article and fluro the relevant paragraph. It’s starts with ..
However, others have argued the bill is unconstitutional and opens the door for more demands for candidates in the future.

“Today ...
Others! People are saying! Everybody tells me! No, I'm afraid my entitled opinion is that states have a good deal of leeway in deciding their delegates. Pretty familiar with the CONTUS, not seeing the problem. So a degree if specificity may be required.

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Brive1987 wrote: CFB, it’s never occurred to me to ask, not being top of mind, but are you a poc?

It could help me understand your .... sensitivity to, and obsession with, race.
What obsession with race? I give not two shits about race. I was raised to ignore race and concentrate on character. You're obsessed with race, dude. Stop projecting. Or show me one post obsessed with race. The only time I bring it up is to make fun of your obsession.

For your information, tho, I'm white as the driven snow. Iceland and, gods forgive me, islands of Scotland and Faroe islands. I've relayed this information before.

But you know what? It shouldn't matter. And it was a cunt question to ask. Says a lot about you. An awful lot.

And I will wait for you to post one post of mine that's obsessed with race.

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CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Old_ones wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Global warming, pretty cool, amirite?
Pfft. Wildfires, ecological disruption, ocean acidification, rising sea levels, more frequent extreme weather events, and desertification of arable land are all a bunch of libtard distractions. The real crisis is brown next door neighbors.
No. Cultural Collectives™. Wherein the problem with our neighbors is that we are only members of a collective, not actual individuals that may have ideals and aspirations differing from that collective. All Mexicans are lawless, all Muslums jihadists, all Chinese part of the scary yellow menace. White people are naturally democratic, freedom-loving souls, but, alas, the vast unwashed hordes outside that pale collective will naturally undermine that democracy*. So we need to kill democracy in order to save it. Kissinger would be very proud. We can safely ignore the upcoming ecological collapse as long as we're certain we have a highly ineffective wall. Despite port-of-entry issues, we will concentrate on that wall because it's a symbol of American freedom, or just a symbol that's easy for the reality impaired to remember.

Look, nothing against brown people, it's just that they need to remember that they should remember their place. We didn't conquer them in America, Australia or New Zealand only to have to deal with other brown people now. We stole this land, fair & square. Democratic norms and the rule of law seemed like a good idea, but look what it got us; ads in Chinese! Instead of addressing rampant immigration problems, we'll just decide that all brown people are bad, rather than focusing on those that actually are. Let's face it, it's tons easier. Nuance is hard.

We've been all wrong on identity politics, boys. We need to embrace the hate, let it flow through us. Somehow we'll still survive in a global economy through a little thing I like to call magical thinking. I'm pretty sure it always works; look at prayer!

*Korea, Japan, various other nations are excluded for reasons, very good reasons. If you have to ask, you don't deserve to know. Neener.

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Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Old_ones wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Global warming, pretty cool, amirite?
Pfft. Wildfires, ecological disruption, ocean acidification, rising sea levels, more frequent extreme weather events, and desertification of arable land are all a bunch of libtard distractions. The real crisis is brown next door neighbors.
No. Cultural Collectives™. Wherein the problem with our neighbors is that we are only members of a collective, not actual individuals that may have ideals and aspirations differing from that collective. All Mexicans are lawless, all Muslums jihadists, all Chinese part of the scary yellow menace. White people are naturally democratic, freedom-loving souls, but, alas, the vast unwashed hordes outside that pale collective will naturally undermine that democracy*. So we need to kill democracy in order to save it. Kissinger would be very proud. We can safely ignore the upcoming ecological collapse as long as we're certain we have a highly ineffective wall. Despite port-of-entry issues, we will concentrate on that wall because it's a symbol of American freedom, or just a symbol that's easy for the reality impaired to remember.

Look, nothing against brown people, it's just that they need to remember that they should remember their place. We didn't conquer them in America, Australia or New Zealand only to have to deal with other brown people now. We stole this land, fair & square. Democratic norms and the rule of law seemed like a good idea, but look what it got us; ads in Chinese! Instead of addressing rampant immigration problems, we'll just decide that all brown people are bad, rather than focusing on those that actually are. Let's face it, it's tons easier. Nuance is hard.

We've been all wrong on identity politics, boys. We need to embrace the hate, let it flow through us. Somehow we'll still survive in a global economy through a little thing I like to call magical thinking. I'm pretty sure it always works; look at prayer!

*Korea, Japan, various other nations are excluded for reasons, very good reasons. If you have to ask, you don't deserve to know. Neener.
Is that the post wherein I'm obsessed with race? Because, first, that was mocking you, and second, I explicitly asked for one that wasn't mocking you. Also, obsession usually involves more than one post. That's how words work. Look up obsession real quick-like. Might be illuminating.

Now, assuming you actually know what the word "obsession" means, show me the posts wherein I'm obsessed with race.

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Regularly scheduled programming-

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Probably coincidence.

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Three weeks too late. The left are playing multiple streams of defence now, one string of which is throw their boy to the gutter.

Much as they did in Virginia until they realised it was sleeze all the way down.
So, if someone does something moronic and/or counterproductive, people shouldn't criticize them or make fun of them? Would you prefer people to defend their "boys" no matter what they do?

Smollett probably isn't the sharpest tool in the shed: his hate crime hoax plan was, admittedly, pretty stupid. It IS funny that he paid his two partners in crime with a check. You could write a pretty good black comedy about the whole shenanigans. The Cohen brothers could turn it into a masterpiece.

The bigger problem with the Smollett story is the "listen and believe" attitude of many in the media. It's the same thing that happened with the "A Rape on Campus" fiasco. Yes, there should be more more soul-searching on the part of those who promoted the Smollett story a-critically and without caveats. Brooker and Harris should apologize for being a little too eager to jump the gun, because a little bit more skepticism wouldn't hurt (it rarely does).

But it's an issue that has become contentious in the matter of politics, so it won't happen. Just like people who voted for Donnie Trump will never admit that it's weird that so many of his staff are crooked or incompetent assholes, and that maybe, just maybe, it's because he's also a crooked, incompetent asshole, even if they might sometimes shit on them to distance them from their favorite 2016 candidate. Or how Trump supporters who AREN'T fanatically obsessed with Deep State conspiracy or white identity will never admit that Trump did a lot to flirt and court those people, even if they might sometimes say "oh, we're not one of THOSE Trump supporters".

Or how you will never admit that Goldy or Southern are at least heavily pandering to the far-right, and will always find a way to shield them from any criticism for their flirting with white identitarian ideas, even though you're happy to shit on explicit white identitarians like Dick Spencer or Red Ice.

People are pretty defensive of their favorite concerns and ideas. When someone on their "side" does something stupid or immoral or counterproductive , they might sometimes distance themselves from them, but it's rare that they might say "Oh my god, my values are useless, I should completely change my mind!" It takes something bigger to change attitudes like that, and some people never change their minds.

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But you know what? It shouldn't matter. And it was a cunt question to ask. Says a lot about you. An awful lot.
“Matter” is the wrong word. “Relevant” is better.

There’s no shame in either the question or any conceivable answer.

Is there?

But the answer could provide the same valuable context that (say) Kirb’s reveal delivered. And that’s not then an excuse to leverage the info.

But you are right about something. The question (and response) certainly shed valuable insight into character and sensitivity.

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Goldy or Southern are at least heavily pandering to the far-right
Both know the far right loath them. They may be happy to poach their base, but pander is a stupid word to use. Unlike you, the “far right” appears to know when a social conservative / patriot is not on team-race and/or team-antisemite.

Maybe the alt-right do lessons at the local community college?

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Old_ones wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Global warming, pretty cool, amirite?
Pfft. Wildfires, ecological disruption, ocean acidification, rising sea levels, more frequent extreme weather events, and desertification of arable land are all a bunch of libtard distractions. The real crisis is brown next door neighbors.
If people who are actually concerned with immigration were mostly motivated by practical concerns instead of identitarian memes, they should be the first to be worried about global warming, because desertification will happen more and more frequently, and will be harder to deal with, in poor areas, possibly triggering instability and mass migrations.

I happen to think that migration is hardly a panacea for deep, structural issues, unlike what some libertarian-woke people seem to think. Failed states, instability, resource depletion, civil and religious wars are no joke, and we can't solve those simply by opening the borders and allowing people in. Also integration is a hard process that needs focus, resources, creativity, and attention, in order to avoid simply creating isolated ghettos and magnifying cultural clash, and with looming humanitarian crises, migration might reach levels where it triggers further problems.

There's no shame in admitting that mass migration is not pain-free, that migration in general requires rules and restrictions. The problem is that the alt-"lite" or the alt-"right" or the alt-whatever aren't expressing real concerns about practical problems, or even when they are they are cloaking them in their identitarian language, and are rejecting all forms of normal political and social interaction to instead pander to apocalyptic scaremongering about "great replacements" or even "white genocide". That's dumb. Very, very dumb. And even the more "lite" parts are happily engaging in it, only to turn around and claim that no, they're not, and you're horrible for even suggesting that they are.

There's no interest in confronting real issues of assimilation and integration, in having dialogues within communities, in understanding how to ensure the functioning of a liberal democratic societies in the face of cultural issues and new challenges. Instead there's only the determined, single-minded dedication to the protecting of "collective identities" by trying to shut down immigration, and the false belief that immigration is somehow created or directed by shady elitist cabals instead of simply being the result of sociological, political, economical and even environmental factors.

The identitarians on the "right" believe that simply building walls and closing off the world will work. Well, it might, for a while. But if you don't fix the origins of mass movements of people, if you believe that you can disregard the outside world, or the issues of how to have a dialogue and deals with the minorities in your country by recognizing their real concerns while you express yours, as "not my problem", you're in for a lot of pain and disappointment.

The world exists and it will continue existing even if you think you can barricade yourself in a safe space. Sorry, behind a wall.

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Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
But you know what? It shouldn't matter. And it was a cunt question to ask. Says a lot about you. An awful lot.
“Matter” is the wrong word. “Relevant” is better.

There’s no shame in either the question or any conceivable answer.

Is there?

But the answer could provide the same valuable context that (say) Kirb’s reveal delivered. And that’s not then an excuse to leverage the info.

But you are right about something. The question (and response) certainly shed valuable insight into character and sensitivity.
Yeah. Yours.

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Brive1987 wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 11:01 pm
Goldy or Southern are at least heavily pandering to the far-right
Both know the far right loath them. They may be happy to poach their base, but pander is a stupid word to use. Unlike you, the “far right” appears to know when a social conservative / patriot is not on team-race and/or team-antisemite.

Maybe the alt-right do lessons at the local community college?
The far-right loathes them so much that they're happy to tour Australia with them (Stephen Molyneux) or to appear in interviews where they explain how fascist philosophers are the future of conservatism (Alexandr Dugin) or to have them on their podcasts, wondering about how you "unite the right" (the Daily Stormer). And Goldy and Southern are more than happy to exploit ideas and memes created in far-right circles, like the "Great Replacement", to stir shit for attention. Pettibone, a close Southern associate, has repeatedly worked with Tara McCarthy, she of "black people are a different species". Sellner, Pettibone's boyfriend and another close associate of Southern, has a past in explicitly Nazi circles.

Real hatred there.

A few 4chan/RooshV incel fans who bitch and moan about when Southern dated a non-white man, or about how Goldy looks too swarthy for their tastes, are not indicative of any real "loathing" between the trad-thots and the far-right. And neither is Goldy shooting back and calling Richard Spencer "satanic", since she's dunked on everyone who hasn't praised her, from Jordan Peterson to Gad Saad.

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Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
But you know what? It shouldn't matter. And it was a cunt question to ask. Says a lot about you. An awful lot.
“Matter” is the wrong word. “Relevant” is better.

There’s no shame in either the question or any conceivable answer.

Is there?

But the answer could provide the same valuable context that (say) Kirb’s reveal delivered. And that’s not then an excuse to leverage the info.

But you are right about something. The question (and response) certainly shed valuable insight into character and sensitivity.
There is shame in that question, Brive. A lot of shame. "Are you a poc?" I'd given you the benefit of the doubt. But there's really no question anymore, is there? You don't deal with ideas, you deal with race.

But again, the posts where I'm obsessed with race. Or accept the label of liar. One of those things is inextricably true.

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Brive1987 wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
But you know what? It shouldn't matter. And it was a cunt question to ask. Says a lot about you. An awful lot.
“Matter” is the wrong word. “Relevant” is better.

There’s no shame in either the question or any conceivable answer.

Is there?

But the answer could provide the same valuable context that (say) Kirb’s reveal delivered. And that’s not then an excuse to leverage the info.

But you are right about something. The question (and response) certainly shed valuable insight into character and sensitivity.
Let's try this hypothetical:

"Brive, do you have a close relative that emigrated to Australia from Germany in the late 1940s/early 1950s? There's no shame in either the question or any conceivable answer. Is there? But the answer could provide some valuable conext. And that's not then an excuse to leverage the info. "

Do you think hypothetical question would be fair, or relevant? Or would you be somewhat angered by the insinuation that your positions are motivated by your ancestry?

Incidentally, since that's just a hypothetical question, you don't need to answer, or whine about how unfair I am for even asking. Although if you do the latter, you'll be just a tad hypocritical.

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The posts, Brive.

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