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Jonathan wrote:Good grief.

Someone on Atheism+ posts a limerick that includes the word "wanker" and is accused of sexual harrassment!

What is wrong with these people?!
Wait, but after Jen McCreight's encounter with a homeless (and possibly ill) man, I thought wankers *were* harassers? I'm confused.

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Re: The Periodic Table's Younger, Sexier, Sibling Thread...

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EdgePenguin wrote:
Jonathan wrote:Good grief.

Someone on Atheism+ posts a limerick that includes the word "wanker" and is accused of sexual harrassment!

What is wrong with these people?!
Wait, but after Jen McCreight's encounter with a homeless (and possibly ill) man, I thought wankers *were* harassers? I'm confused.
The mentality of offence dominates there. The poster it was aimed at doesn't think it was harassment, the poster who wrote it doesn't. But the fact that others found it "offensive" means the guy has to bow and scrape and apologise.

Those people really need to grow up and realise that they are not the centre of the universe.

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Oh, and here's ischemgeek to explain how it's all part of "rape culture".

Is ANYTHING not part of rape culture?!

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I wrote a short satirical guide on how to write like Ophelia Benson, I hope you guys enjoy it! :)

http://richardreed84.wordpress.com/2013 ... ia-benson/

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Re: The Periodic Table's Younger, Sexier, Sibling Thread...

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Jonathan wrote:Oh, and here's ischemgeek to explain how it's all part of "rape culture".

Is ANYTHING not part of rape culture?!
The universe (as described by MEN) began with a Big Bang. We all know 'bang' is a euphemism for sex. Male physicists suggest that time originated at the Big Sex, so that any concept of 'before' it is meaningless. This makes prior consent for the Big Sex a logical impossibility, meaning it is the Big Rape.

See! I've got a radical feminist side too!

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Re: The Periodic Table's Younger, Sexier, Sibling Thread...

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surreptitious57 wrote:
Skep tickle wrote:
I started to search whether child pornography only meant photos or could also refer to creative writing but decided those were search phrases probably better left un typed
A paedophile engaging with other paedophiles could be charged with obscene publication whereas a professional author using identical language in a novel could not so it is the intention that matters here
I remembered reading something a while back by Greta Christina (in her sex positive days) where she talked about pornography and what is acceptable or not - mainly in the context of relationships where one partner discovers the other partner using porn.
She touched upon the subject of 'simulated' child porn and seemed to think that this was OK in her view.
I did wonder about her statement regarding healthy kinky people having fantasies about having sex with underage people. To me that doesn't sound 'healthy' (at least not when you are a grown adult - of course young teenagers will have fantasies about people their own age.)
Or am I just an old prude?

Here's the link:
http://gretachristina.typepad.com/greta ... k-for.html
If we're talking about actual child porn -- i.e., porn filmed with actual underaged people -- then obviously I think it's valid to ask your partner not to watch it. Porn involving actual underaged people is (a) unethical and (b) a crime.

But if we're talking about simulated underaged porn, then you're basically talking about regulating fantasies rather than actual behavior. As Matt said: We entertain ourselves all the time by watching simulations of unethical behavior: crime shows, etc. And lots of healthy kinky people have fantasies about being with -- or being -- underaged people. It's not like it's proof that they're really a child molester or something.

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Re: John Greg's Rant of the Week

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decius wrote:
John Greg wrote:Rant Mode On

Part 1

I really must agree with MKG that there has been far too much laughing at, criticising, dismissing, and condemning of some of the FfTB, Skepchick, A+ people based on things over which they have no control, in particular, their genetically determined physical appearance. Such attacks, or whatever we might call them, are really unwarranted, unfair, and out of place, especially in a community that claims to pride itself on supposedly superior use of legitimate sceptical process and critical thought. If we keep crowing about how much better we are than The Evil Hordes, we really must prove it, and maintain that supposed higher ground.

I'm sorely tempted to agree with this, but I promised not to tone-troll again.
At the end of the day, while low blows do a disservice to the image of this community, the more rational of our critics will recognise that each person is responsible for the content of his/her posts only.

As for part 2, I think some of those who shared their experience here didn't mean to put themselves of a pedestal.
I think we should treat the FfTB crowd like aspiring politicians, eager for votes. Initially, only their policies and past behaviour insofar as it reflects on their character (and maybe their personal hygene, but that's not an issue on the 'net) are up for criticism. How they look, their kids*, anything else is out of bounds. Once they start using their appearance to further their agenda, though, that's open for lulz as well.

By that criterion, Watson's tuchis is fair game and, arguably, Jen's boobs.

Whether you want make the jokes is another matter, but you can't rule them all out just on principle. And, yes, some of them were funny.

Speaking of boobs, what is it with the "enhanced pecs" on that blowfly-in-a-nappy avatar of PZ?

*I'd never hassle about someone's kids because, even if their parent asked them if it was OK to use them for the political career, they aren't really in a position to refuse. The parent might still deserve some attention though, for trying to use the kids.

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ReneeHendricks wrote:Wondering if I should follow Rebarfa's lead and do something similar for the Operation Smile fundraiser: http://twitter.com/rebeccawatson/status ... 2913347584
Could be a fun idea, and props to them for having a decent fundraiser.

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Jonathan wrote:Oh, and here's ischemgeek to explain how it's all part of "rape culture".

Is ANYTHING not part of rape culture?!
Apparently it is also offensive because the poster who received the limerick is South African and thus English may not be her first language. It's now all about the "potential" harm rather than, you know, any actual problem.

And of course, it's due to "privilege".

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rayshul wrote:Husband has asked me about this video clip. He's seen people talking about how "casually sexist" this is and does not grasp why. I don't either. This is... unrelated to pitter business (heh), but does relate to the fascinating shit feminists think.

[youtube]P99qJGrPNLs[/youtube]
Oh, there are 'traditional' sexist flags all over that puppy, unless you take the time to look beyond the quick flash surface details. The surface: multiple, aggressive, armored and heavily armed men attacking a lone, scantily clad female. That is all some people will (or perhaps can or want) to see.

Take a moment to really look and there is a hell of a lot more going on in there and most of it goes in the other direction - the target (by all visual indicators) is a murderous robot that happens to be constructed to resemble a human female. It reminds me of an old sci-fi story that the Terminator movies were based on. Can't remember the title or author at the moment. I would love to find. Copy and reread that old gem.

As an aside, and as a graphics person myself, the cgi work is stunning. Even better, I'm loving the soundtrack. Any idea who the music is by? Love to buy a copy of that music!

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So let me see...by taking a crack at grta's astounding lack of how things look, we've managed to push people into what, two legitimate charity drives, not including Renee's?

Oh, embarrass me. Embarrass me like the embarrassment I am. Embarrassed me until research groups have to turn away donations because they've too much money.

I wish more people would give me my comeuppance by doing actual good for folks.

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Re: The Periodic Table's Younger, Sexier, Sibling Thread...

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Zenspace wrote:
ReneeHendricks wrote:
Zenspace wrote: Renee, I don't know if you have access to this data, but do you happen to know, on average, what each of those operations cost? TIA
Each operation costs $240.
Thanks. I think I may have fucked up. I made a donation, but did it using the upper left donate button rather than the one near the 'thermometer'. Is there a way to make sure my donation is counted towards your total? It was for two full operations, if that helps.
Bloody 'ell Zenspace, props for that. I'd have to sack the third under-gardener to be able to donate that much.

You do realise that's two pairs of plug ugly shoes that'll never be bought now.

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Jonathan wrote:
Jonathan wrote:Oh, and here's ischemgeek to explain how it's all part of "rape culture".

Is ANYTHING not part of rape culture?!
Apparently it is also offensive because the poster who received the limerick is South African and thus English may not be her first language. It's now all about the "potential" harm rather than, you know, any actual problem.

And of course, it's due to "privilege".
Wow, he got banned for it.

I think that might be the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen. A+ are beyond parody.

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justinvacula wrote:
Skep tickle wrote:
Rystefn wrote:
Outwest wrote:Come on guys, you need to take this argument offline.
Since we live nearly five thousand miles apart, it would be incredibly difficult to have this argument in person.
Unless you two win Amy's 2 scholarships-for-men to WiS.
Slymepitters need not apply :p
Really? Well that's a pity because arguably slymepitters need re-education the most!

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AbsurdWalls wrote:
Jonathan wrote:
Jonathan wrote:Oh, and here's ischemgeek to explain how it's all part of "rape culture".

Is ANYTHING not part of rape culture?!
Apparently it is also offensive because the poster who received the limerick is South African and thus English may not be her first language. It's now all about the "potential" harm rather than, you know, any actual problem.

And of course, it's due to "privilege".
Wow, he got banned for it.

I think that might be the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen. A+ are beyond parody.
At least the A+ mascot made an appearance:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-iHj9S-H4LQA/U ... 00/NO3.jpg

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Re: John Greg's Rant of the Week

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John Greg wrote:Rant Mode On

Part 1

I really must agree with MKG that there has been far too much laughing at, criticising, dismissing, and condemning of some of the FfTB, Skepchick, A+ people based on things over which they have no control, in particular, their genetically determined physical appearance. Such attacks, or whatever we might call them, are really unwarranted, unfair, and out of place, especially in a community that claims to pride itself on supposedly superior use of legitimate sceptical process and critical thought. If we keep crowing about how much better we are than The Evil Hordes, we really must prove it, and maintain that supposed higher ground.

Part 2

I have no intention of defending Stefunny InzVanity; she is, indeed, one of the least rational and least honest of online interlocutors. Nonetheless, this endless stream of "I was assaulted too, and I got over it; so suck it up and grow up", is just sick.

We all, each and every fucking one of us, are predisposed, for a vast variety of reasons, many of them quite completely beyond our control, to respond to our environment and react and endure it in different ways. Some of those reponses are dictated by our genetic makeup which, to some degree, determines our psychological and emotional character, which determines, outside of our control, how we respond; how we experience; how we endure. Some people are going to respond to violent attacks in a way that they are able to successfully deal with it over time, and to overcome, to a large degree, the pyschological and emotional damage those attacks cost. Others are not. And that is not necessarily and exclusively their fault.

Would you tell a clinically depressed individual to just go outside, get some sun, and be happy? Of course not -- well, if you would, then you're a fucking ignorant dolt. Would you tell someone whose pain threshold is very, very low to just "suck it up, stop whining, and let the dentist pull your wisdom teeth without anasthetic, 'cause that what adults do"? Of course not.

So, the same courtesy, and basic understanding and acceptance of everyone's different psychological and emotional makeup and characteristics and ways of interacting with their immediate environment really must be accepted to at least some degree.

Now, all that being said, I think it is right and healthy of us to point out InzVanity's misuse of the presuppositions of our different characterstics, and her abuse of honest reportage, and her abuse and manipulation of her past in such a manipulative and dishonest way. Nonetheless, we are not her, and we do not truly know what sort of deep and very real effect such experienes had on her that were beyond her immediate control.

Rant Mode Off

You know what? I don't care. She's not using her past just to educate or help. She's using it to gain victim cred, and superiority points, so that when you disagree wither on something, she can whip it out for INSTANT SUPERIORITY. You want to use traumatic events like a club, that's your choice, but they lose any protected status once that happens. I also get rather tired of the inane "you aren't still suffering so you diminish my experience/you aren't still suffering so what happened to you wasn't that bad" shit from that side. Gosh, so sorry that rather a lot of us learned how to find coping mechanisms that were actually, you know, useful. How horrible of us. Funny how few people get annoyed over that.

We'll leave off the completely bullshit concept she and her lot push that being a woman and a rape victim makes you the end-all expert on rape. By that logic, the United States created a few hundred thousand Japanese nuclear physicists in August of 1945.

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Re: The Periodic Table's Younger, Sexier, Sibling Thread...

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RichardReed84 wrote:I wrote a short satirical guide on how to write like Ophelia Benson, I hope you guys enjoy it! :)

http://richardreed84.wordpress.com/2013 ... ia-benson/
What is satirical about it?

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Re: The Periodic Table's Younger, Sexier, Sibling Thread...

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AbsurdWalls wrote:
masakari2012 wrote:WILL THERE BE MORE SURLY GRANTS?
http://skepchick.org/2013/01/will-there ... ly-grants/
I can't find anything there to disagree with. I do wonder whether the guys sent to the "Women in Secularism" conference will be men who are already on board with all of that or men who have different ideas. In order to be analagous to the "we need to get women represented in secularism" grants I imagine you would want to send men who disagree with the women there.

Amy quite obviously found herself in a role that she wasn't comfortable with holding: that of somebody who spoke for women in the atheist movement. It seems like she mainly wants to make her jewellery and contribute in a sort-of background way now and I don't think that should be discouraged. I will not however be embarrassed by being one of a set of people who don't get on with the official FTB/Skepchick narrative just because there are other people on this side who act in a shitty way.
I can find stuff there to disagree with. She paints herself as a poor victim of a horrible storm of online hate that is aimed at her and "women like her", while completely failing to mention that in fact, she and the other women she mentions are FAR from innocent. No mentions of her own actions, no, it's "cry cry cry, people are mean to us! (for being women, waah misogynists!)".

The fact is Amy tried to silence people who simply disagreed with her, by abusing DMCA laws, and by doing so, she did attack their free speech. Not the kind of "omg freeze peach" they joke around about, about them moderating their blogs or blocking people on twitter, but actual, real free speech.

Free speech is serious shit in my book. Abusing DMCAs or starting false-flagging campaigns in order to silence people is VERY serious stuff, you're crossing a very important line if you do, one that makes you into a proper fucking scumbag that deserve little pity when your actions come back and bites you in the ass. Not only is it to be expected that she will receive a great deal of animosity for her actions, she deserves a great deal of it.*

I don't give a rat's ass that she is naive, she's an adult woman and responsible for her actions. I don't care that she's also happening to do some charity work, to borrow the sentiments from Hitchens' in his debate against Tony Blair, so does Hamaz and Hezbollah. The fact that she's now read up a bit on copyright law and released her work under creative commons is good, but she still to my knowledge haven't even acknowledge that what she did was wrong, or apologized for it.

In the light of that, the fact that she brings up some benign tweet with someone making a bad joke that points out what a shitty idea Schrödinger's Rapist is as some sort of example of bullying and harassment is just pathetic.

*and just to clarify before someone goes bananas or quote mine the shit out of it, no, I do not think that she deserve threats of any kind, or similar extreme stuff. But being called names, being the butt end of jokes, and being written negatively about on blogs? Cry me a river, that's what you get for being a DMCA-abusing scumbag.

ps. Same applies to Melody and her false-flagging campaing, and the people who are reporting twitter and youtube accounts. Proper scumbags that I have very little sympathies for, to the "wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire" degree.

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Re: The Periodic Table's Younger, Sexier, Sibling Thread...

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Jonathan wrote:Good grief.

Someone on Atheism+ posts a limerick that includes the word "wanker" and is accused of sexual harrassment!

What is wrong with these people?!
Wanker obviously implies that the person doing it is self raping themselves, especially if they have had been drinking booze!

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Zenspace wrote:
rayshul wrote:Husband has asked me about this video clip. He's seen people talking about how "casually sexist" this is and does not grasp why. I don't either. This is... unrelated to pitter business (heh), but does relate to the fascinating shit feminists think.

P99qJGrPNLs
Oh, there are 'traditional' sexist flags all over that puppy, unless you take the time to look beyond the quick flash surface details. The surface: multiple, aggressive, armored and heavily armed men attacking a lone, scantily clad female. That is all some people will (or perhaps can or want) to see.

Take a moment to really look and there is a hell of a lot more going on in there and most of it goes in the other direction - the target (by all visual indicators) is a murderous robot that happens to be constructed to resemble a human female. It reminds me of an old sci-fi story that the Terminator movies were based on. Can't remember the title or author at the moment. I would love to find. Copy and reread that old gem.
You are thinking of "Blade Runner" http://www.gradesaver.com/do-androids-d ... /section8/

As an aside, and as a graphics person myself, the cgi work is stunning. Even better, I'm loving the soundtrack. Any idea who the music is by? Love to buy a copy of that music!

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Philip of Tealand wrote:
Jonathan wrote:Good grief.

Someone on Atheism+ posts a limerick that includes the word "wanker" and is accused of sexual harrassment!

What is wrong with these people?!
Wanker obviously implies that the person doing it is self raping themselves, especially if they have had been drinking booze!
It is ridiculous to ban 'Glob' for harassment, simply for writing a Limerick.
S/H/it should have been banned for the far worse crime of trying to rhyme "buckle" with "chill".

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Post by sacha »

new information about a previous conversation -

alternative to vasectomy and easily reversible: birth control for men

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversible ... r_guidance

Harriet Hall writes about it here: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/ind ... l-for-men/


Autonomy for men in regards to birth control, and easily reversible. I hope it passes clinical trials.

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sacha wrote:new information about a previous conversation -

alternative to vasectomy and easily reversible: birth control for men

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversible ... r_guidance

Harriet Hall writes about it here: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/ind ... l-for-men/


Autonomy for men in regards to birth control, and easily reversible. I hope it passes clinical trials.
Irreversible birth control for men:

[spoiler]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-CMRObL76StM/T ... 0/brik.jpg[/spoiler]

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Reap wrote:You know I was just talking to Miss O Gynist about greta. She was all pissed about the shoe thing and I kinda said let her have her greedy way if people wanna give her money specifically for shoes , so what? it's tacky from the start and to make a joke of legit criticism is really showing a childish self-centered attitude, but what can you do? Some people just don't have any empathy.
Then she tells me about her mom when she had cancer the American Cancer Society came over one day and did her up with a wig and some make-up. That was the happiest she had been since she had found out she was dying.Losing her hair had really had been a hard reality check. Her mom only lasted a few weeks after diagnosed. I guess maybe I've become used to people being materialistic, but if you had a cancer scare and it turned out to be a false alarm would that be a signal to go and buy as many nice things as you could or would it humble you a little bit and kinda remind you that there is more to life than expensive shoes?
I've got a disabled son and we get along okay cause his mom is awesome with him and you just do what you need to do when it's your kid. But a lot of people struggle and I guess I don't want to say you shouldn't buy expensive shit you don't really need but at least think about it and keep it in mind when you do buy and wear stuff you really could do without- Other people are doing without what you are too good for.
Well said.

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Regarding the vitriol directed at baboons based on physical characteristics which they have no control over.

Well, I've directed plenty. And certainly had a good old hoot at what others have directed too. Is it reprehensible? Yeah - to an extent. Do I find it in any way acceptable, Again yeah - to an extent.

First off, we're dealing with people here who cannot be argued with in good faith. Re: Welch's article about New Media Douches. I've long thought that ridicule is best way of dealing with the baboons; if you've ever seen Nick Broomfield's documentary 'The Leader, His Driver and The Driver's Wife', and seen how Broomfield gives the pompous neo-nazi nitwit Eugene Terreblanche enough rope to hang himself with by consistently failing to take the guy seriously, then you might see where I'm coming from here.

But again - should that be an excuse to have a dig at them based solely on these physical characteristics? Well no - not solely on physical characteristics, at least.

You see, I've always found it a hell of a lot funnier, biting and telling when a jibe based on a person's physical characteristic has some reflection of their nature, too. Hence, why 'Prune' works in the context of Ophelia: it not simply that she looks like a dried up hag; it's also because it speaks something of a dried up hag that gives you the shits. Prunes - the medicine favoured by 19th century puritanical harridans who always thought they knew better. At least, that's what it speaks of to me. Hence the reason why likening Ophelia to a prune amuses me greatly.

I've often referred to Watson as the Blue Haired Glob. Okay, so the Blue-Haired bit is an entirely voluntary characteristic, whereas her globbish body shape remains debatable to the extent that she is responsible for it. But what is a 'glob' anyway? Usually just a superfluous blob of matter. Speaks volumes about Becky, that does. It's the same when I go on about her disturbing upper-lip movement: it's as if her voice is saying something which isn't being matched by the movement of her mouth. Given her slyness, her perpetual sneer, her manipulativeness, again - to me, it works, because there's a reflection of her character there.

My comment to MKG about Jen's horsiness was only partly in jest: I laugh at likening Jen to a horse not so much because she looks like one, but because to me, she projects that haughty, equine disdain of the well-kept thoroughbred; basically, she's a privileged snob. She reminds me of the 'Horsey Set' we have in the UK. Snooty; temperamental; stand-offish. Daddy's favourite mare.

As for calling Greg Laden 'Tomato-face'. Well...okay, you got me there. It's entirely gratuitous. Unfortunately, there's just something about Greg that vexes me to the point of abject purility. In my defence, I guess I'm at least not alone in this.

In any case, there is one of the FC brigade who does have a particular physical feature which they are unlikely to have any control over, and which I've never mentioned. Why? Because to do so would be inappropriate, simply because do to so would say nothing of that person's character. It would be cruel, unnecessary, and just not funny. So yes, even I have my limits.

In summary, I'd venture that the reason myself and others felt 'Kabuki-Face' and 'Button-Eyes' were so funny - and indeed appropriate - was because they seemed to speak a whole lot more of the person inside rather than the outside.

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RichardReed84 wrote:I wrote a short satirical guide on how to write like Ophelia Benson, I hope you guys enjoy it! :)

http://richardreed84.wordpress.com/2013 ... ia-benson/
That is spot on!

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AnonymousCowherd wrote:
Zenspace wrote:
ReneeHendricks wrote:
Zenspace wrote: Renee, I don't know if you have access to this data, but do you happen to know, on average, what each of those operations cost? TIA
Each operation costs $240.
Thanks. I think I may have fucked up. I made a donation, but did it using the upper left donate button rather than the one near the 'thermometer'. Is there a way to make sure my donation is counted towards your total? It was for two full operations, if that helps.
Bloody 'ell Zenspace, props for that. I'd have to sack the third under-gardener to be able to donate that much.

You do realise that's two pairs of plug ugly shoes that'll never be bought now.
No biggie. As I mentioned to Renee in private email, I've had a very good year with my art work and happen to be in a position to share a bit of the happiness. Sometimes I can, sometimes I can't. When I can, I do.

Sorry about the shoe thing. I obviously had't thought that part through. :think:

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Lsuoma wrote:
sacha wrote:new information about a previous conversation -

alternative to vasectomy and easily reversible: birth control for men

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversible ... r_guidance

Harriet Hall writes about it here: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/ind ... l-for-men/


Autonomy for men in regards to birth control, and easily reversible. I hope it passes clinical trials.
Irreversible birth control for men:

[spoiler]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-CMRObL76StM/T ... 0/brik.jpg[/spoiler]
http://i.imgur.com/kuuU6.jpg

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SubMor, self-appointed God of A+theism, wrote:Let me be quite clear: I don't care whether she was accusing you of that or not. She highlighted a possible interpretation that you should care about and actively seek to avoid. You responding like this? All confrontational-like? Not an acceptable response in either case. Send that train right back to the damn station. Now.
Hehehe.

I bet he came a little in his pants (if he still has his balls, that is) when he wrote that last bit ("Now.").

These fuckers, I do hate them.

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Oneiros666 wrote:
SubMor, self-appointed God of A+theism, wrote:Let me be quite clear: I don't care whether she was accusing you of that or not. She highlighted a possible interpretation that you should care about and actively seek to avoid. You responding like this? All confrontational-like? Not an acceptable response in either case. Send that train right back to the damn station. Now.
Hehehe.

I bet he came a little in his pants (if he still has his balls, that is) when he wrote that last bit ("Now.").

These fuckers, I do hate them.
I don't hate them, they provide endless comedy for me. If anything, I would just rank them as stupid and immature.

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Tigzy wrote:[spoiler]Regarding the vitriol directed at baboons based on physical characteristics which they have no control over.

Well, I've directed plenty. And certainly had a good old hoot at what others have directed too. Is it reprehensible? Yeah - to an extent. Do I find it in any way acceptable, Again yeah - to an extent.

First off, we're dealing with people here who cannot be argued with in good faith. Re: Welch's article about New Media Douches. I've long thought that ridicule is best way of dealing with the baboons; if you've ever seen Nick Broomfield's documentary 'The Leader, His Driver and The Driver's Wife', and seen how Broomfield gives the pompous neo-nazi nitwit Eugene Terreblanche enough rope to hang himself with by consistently failing to take the guy seriously, then you might see where I'm coming from here.

But again - should that be an excuse to have a dig at them based solely on these physical characteristics? Well no - not solely on physical characteristics, at least.

You see, I've always found it a hell of a lot funnier, biting and telling when a jibe based on a person's physical characteristic has some reflection of their nature, too. Hence, why 'Prune' works in the context of Ophelia: it not simply that she looks like a dried up hag; it's also because it speaks something of a dried up hag that gives you the shits. Prunes - the medicine favoured by 19th century puritanical harridans who always thought they knew better. At least, that's what it speaks of to me. Hence the reason why likening Ophelia to a prune amuses me greatly.

I've often referred to Watson as the Blue Haired Glob. Okay, so the Blue-Haired bit is an entirely voluntary characteristic, whereas her globbish body shape remains debatable to the extent that she is responsible for it. But what is a 'glob' anyway? Usually just a superfluous blob of matter. Speaks volumes about Becky, that does. It's the same when I go on about her disturbing upper-lip movement: it's as if her voice is saying something which isn't being matched by the movement of her mouth. Given her slyness, her perpetual sneer, her manipulativeness, again - to me, it works, because there's a reflection of her character there.

My comment to MKG about Jen's horsiness was only partly in jest: I laugh at likening Jen to a horse not so much because she looks like one, but because to me, she projects that haughty, equine disdain of the well-kept thoroughbred; basically, she's a privileged snob. She reminds me of the 'Horsey Set' we have in the UK. Snooty; temperamental; stand-offish. Daddy's favourite mare.

As for calling Greg Laden 'Tomato-face'. Well...okay, you got me there. It's entirely gratuitous. Unfortunately, there's just something about Greg that vexes me to the point of abject purility. In my defence, I guess I'm at least not alone in this.

In any case, there is one of the FC brigade who does have a particular physical feature which they are unlikely to have any control over, and which I've never mentioned. Why? Because to do so would be inappropriate, simply because do to so would say nothing of that person's character. It would be cruel, unnecessary, and just not funny. So yes, even I have my limits.

In summary, I'd venture that the reason myself and others felt 'Kabuki-Face' and 'Button-Eyes' were so funny - and indeed appropriate - was because they seemed to speak a whole lot more of the person inside rather than the outside.[/spoiler]
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Dilurk wrote:
Zenspace wrote:
rayshul wrote:Husband has asked me about this video clip. He's seen people talking about how "casually sexist" this is and does not grasp why. I don't either. This is... unrelated to pitter business (heh), but does relate to the fascinating shit feminists think.

P99qJGrPNLs
Oh, there are 'traditional' sexist flags all over that puppy, unless you take the time to look beyond the quick flash surface details. The surface: multiple, aggressive, armored and heavily armed men attacking a lone, scantily clad female. That is all some people will (or perhaps can or want) to see.

Take a moment to really look and there is a hell of a lot more going on in there and most of it goes in the other direction - the target (by all visual indicators) is a murderous robot that happens to be constructed to resemble a human female. It reminds me of an old sci-fi story that the Terminator movies were based on. Can't remember the title or author at the moment. I would love to find. Copy and reread that old gem.
You are thinking of "Blade Runner" http://www.gradesaver.com/do-androids-d ... /section8/

As an aside, and as a graphics person myself, the cgi work is stunning. Even better, I'm loving the soundtrack. Any idea who the music is by? Love to buy a copy of that music!
No, that's not it. I'm familiar with Bladerunner history. That is a completely different plot line that Terminator. The story I'm recalling, like Terminator, is completely post apocalyptic. There are scattered human survivors being hunted by fully robotic 'hunterkillers', most of which are obviously autonomous machines of varying degrees of complexity. As in Terminator, the computers that are designing and building these machines develop increasingly complex models, finally achieving designs that have appearances and behaviors indistinguishable from humans - all to complete its assigned task of killing the enemy, which apparently is every real human.

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rayshul wrote:Husband has asked me about this video clip. He's seen people talking about how "casually sexist" this is and does not grasp why. I don't either. This is... unrelated to pitter business (heh), but does relate to the fascinating shit feminists think.

[youtube]P99qJGrPNLs[/youtube]
Taking someone like Anita Sarkeesian as the prime example of feminist criticism of game(or at least the prime profiteer off on no actual content), the robot disguised as a human woman in that video could have been dressed in a burka and people like her would call foul and claim it's sexist or misogynist.

If a woman in a game is under any threat, it's misogyny. If the woman is tough and fights back, then she's just a "man with tits". If a woman is a killer such as in this vid then it's male fears of female empowerment, and all that. Nobody can win unless you make an indie game with a funny looking non-gendered cartoon character or a puzzle game with inanimate objects. I've even seen Portal called sexist. Yes, Portal. WTF.

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Zenspace wrote:
rayshul wrote:
Take a moment to really look and there is a hell of a lot more going on in there and most of it goes in the other direction - the target (by all visual indicators) is a murderous robot that happens to be constructed to resemble a human female.

Not a robot. She is a enhanced human - more cyborg than not. This causes some of them to go crazy, killing normal people. The squad is specially equipped to take on these e-humans.

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Zenspace wrote:
Outwest wrote:
Guest666 wrote:Greta accepts more donations for shoes! Also asks people to donate money to a charity of her choice. But she will spend money donated to her on shoes. At this point it must be just to try and piss off the people who criticized her for her initial shoe purchase.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/greta/2013/ ... l-justice/
Of course she thinks she's pissing off. But she's not. We're laughing at the people she's duped into donating to her shoe fund.
Yup. Gotta love the smell of hate edged, vengeance driven charity in the evening. :whistle:
My point was that Greta is asking her fans to donate more of their money to charity, while she admits to having received even more donations to herself, which she is flat out admitting will be spent on more luxurious designer shoes.

It just comes off as a bit hypocritical (if not that, at least very odd) that she in the same blog post, asks for people to donate money to charity, she spends money donated to her now on overpriced shoes.

I have nothing against the charity or her encouraging people to donate to it. I just find it a bit odd (and in bad form a bit, considering she got so much flack for her initial show purchase) that when she does receive more donations, she doesn't spend that money on the charity she is asking people to donate to.

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Philip of Tealand wrote:
Jonathan wrote:Good grief.

Someone on Atheism+ posts a limerick that includes the word "wanker" and is accused of sexual harrassment!

What is wrong with these people?!
Wanker obviously implies that the person doing it is self raping themselves, especially if they have had been drinking booze!
The best bit is that the use of the limerick form itself is considered sexual harassment:
Eowyn Entwife wrote:Cultural deconstruction for those who are not too familiar with the details of the role that certain types of limericks play in the English-speaking world (and BTW, this is the part about which the classic sexual harasser claims that it's all in my head, that I am the one with the problem...)

1) "There was a young lady..." is a classic start for a limerick with a sexual pun. DO NOT follow the links unless you want to read a pile of examples: http://www.anvari.org/shortjoke/Limeric ... -arse.html and one more at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_once ... d_versions
"For those not too familiar with the interpretation of the limerick form that I just fucking made up."

This is complete bullshit. Just stretching to find something completely innocuous offensive on behalf of somebody who wasn't bothered by it at all. Yes, you can use the limerick form as a semi-witty way to bully people. No that wasn't what was happening there. Seriously, I mean writing on the internet can apparently be used to grievously harass people so maybe they should just disappear that whole forum in case it triggers somebody.
Sexual Harassment Victim wrote:Oh goodness! Well I didn't take any offense from that limerick, since well all it said was that I was chill... and I certainly try to be!

But in light of what Eowyn has said, Glob maybe you should apologise and hide it under a trigger for members who do find it troubling. I'm assuming you meant it in good taste and weren't aware of the stigma. I certainly don't have any experience in that particular area so my opinion is only valid as the person being referred to.

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Here is the full take on that Cyberpunk 2077 clip -

The teaser shows how the Psycho Squad might acquire a new member.

The Psycho Squad specializes in combating "psychos" — individuals who overuse implants and substances that boost or otherwise alter the human body.

There comes a point when they overdose on these innovations, and their bodies start to rebel against their biological body parts as well as all things organic around them. Simply put, they start killing people, who they now derisively call "meatbags."

When a psycho goes on the rampage, strange things can happen. There's carnage, and the psycho might be taken down by regular police, but they're not always able to get the job done.

When things spin out of control, they call in MAX-TAC (Maximum Force Tactical Division), popularly called the Psycho Squad.
Of course the A+ will be all in a titter about the word "psychos" and how it is making crazy people the cause of all the killings going on... or something..

http://kotaku.com/5974963/heres-your-fi ... t=56051911

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Sigh. Oh, Oolon.
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Oolon - the fence riding asshole
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Do try to get it correct. I placed you on the "foe" list here and then blocked you on Twitter not because you and I had a conversation on Twitter but because I find you to be a distasteful, two-faced, fence-riding asshole.

Unfortunately, I still run across your dripping verbal diarrhea everywhere else on the 'net, it seems.

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16bitheretic wrote:
rayshul wrote:Husband has asked me about this video clip. He's seen people talking about how "casually sexist" this is and does not grasp why. I don't either. This is... unrelated to pitter business (heh), but does relate to the fascinating shit feminists think.

[youtube]P99qJGrPNLs[/youtube]
Taking someone like Anita Sarkeesian as the prime example of feminist criticism of game(or at least the prime profiteer off on no actual content), the robot disguised as a human woman in that video could have been dressed in a burka and people like her would call foul and claim it's sexist or misogynist.

If a woman in a game is under any threat, it's misogyny. If the woman is tough and fights back, then she's just a "man with tits". If a woman is a killer such as in this vid then it's male fears of female empowerment, and all that. Nobody can win unless you make an indie game with a funny looking non-gendered cartoon character or a puzzle game with inanimate objects. I've even seen Portal called sexist. Yes, Portal. WTF.
Anita is always complaining that portraying women as violent badasses is giving them masculine traits (which I never understood as to why it was sexist). I thought it was sexist to paint all women as damsels in distress...but, if they are violent...it is also sexist. I guess that if a female character on a videogame is attacked, then she should try "using her words" first or something. Anita, obviously, never experienced the joys of living in the 'hood. Women fights were usually the most vicious. One of my dad's female cousins got her cheek sliced open by another woman from the neighborhood. Female cousin was messing around with the other woman's man. She cut her face to mark her as a whore (yeah, slut shaming from woman to woman! gasp!).
Anywho, for those who asked, the song on the soundtrack is from Archive. The name of the song is "Bullets".

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Zenspace wrote:
No, that's not it. I'm familiar with Bladerunner history. That is a completely different plot line that Terminator. The story I'm recalling, like Terminator, is completely post apocalyptic. There are scattered human survivors being hunted by fully robotic 'hunterkillers', most of which are obviously autonomous machines of varying degrees of complexity. As in Terminator, the computers that are designing and building these machines develop increasingly complex models, finally achieving designs that have appearances and behaviors indistinguishable from humans - all to complete its assigned task of killing the enemy, which apparently is every real human.
You're probably thinking of "Second Variety" by Philip K. Dick. It can be found at http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/32032

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Reap wrote:
Plonk wrote:Speaking of pornographic, look what i found :popcorn:

That is 1000% awesome. Who is the owner of this fine piece of pornographic gold? I need the rights to use as needed
Indeed. Yesterday when Phil Giordana posted that video of those guys performing "The Final Countdown" I thought that was the greatest thing in the history of the internet. Until now - this is splendid. :clap: :lol:

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WTF? Spam blocked?

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Trying to post here using my notebook. Getting returns showing IP blocked for spamming. Funny. It shares the same broadband connection as my mobile device. (tether)
Weird.
Can admin drop me some advice on this or. . . . . anyone here who's seen this sort of thing before?

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16bitheretic wrote:Taking someone like Anita Sarkeesian as the prime example of feminist criticism of game(or at least the prime profiteer off on no actual content), the robot disguised as a human woman in that video could have been dressed in a burka and people like her would call foul and claim it's sexist or misogynist.

If a woman in a game is under any threat, it's misogyny. If the woman is tough and fights back, then she's just a "man with tits". If a woman is a killer such as in this vid then it's male fears of female empowerment, and all that. Nobody can win unless you make an indie game with a funny looking non-gendered cartoon character or a puzzle game with inanimate objects. I've even seen Portal called sexist. Yes, Portal. WTF.
You forgot the most common one, if it's a good looking woman then shes just there for eye-candy and masturbation fantasy, and the fact that she's beautiful is male oppression forcing perverted beuty ideals on girls and the patriarchy saying that women are only valued as long as they look good and...

But yeah, I think you put the finger on something important, with these people there is no way to win. So don't play their game.

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Jonathan wrote:Good grief.

Someone on Atheism+ posts a limerick that includes the word "wanker" and is accused of sexual harrassment!

What is wrong with these people?!
Christ, these people are demented.

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Zenspace wrote:
Dilurk wrote:
Zenspace wrote:
rayshul wrote:Husband has asked me about this video clip. He's seen people talking about how "casually sexist" this is and does not grasp why. I don't either. This is... unrelated to pitter business (heh), but does relate to the fascinating shit feminists think.

P99qJGrPNLs
Oh, there are 'traditional' sexist flags all over that puppy, unless you take the time to look beyond the quick flash surface details. The surface: multiple, aggressive, armored and heavily armed men attacking a lone, scantily clad female. That is all some people will (or perhaps can or want) to see.

Take a moment to really look and there is a hell of a lot more going on in there and most of it goes in the other direction - the target (by all visual indicators) is a murderous robot that happens to be constructed to resemble a human female. It reminds me of an old sci-fi story that the Terminator movies were based on. Can't remember the title or author at the moment. I would love to find. Copy and reread that old gem.
You are thinking of "Blade Runner" http://www.gradesaver.com/do-androids-d ... /section8/

As an aside, and as a graphics person myself, the cgi work is stunning. Even better, I'm loving the soundtrack. Any idea who the music is by? Love to buy a copy of that music!
No, that's not it. I'm familiar with Bladerunner history. That is a completely different plot line that Terminator. The story I'm recalling, like Terminator, is completely post apocalyptic. There are scattered human survivors being hunted by fully robotic 'hunterkillers', most of which are obviously autonomous machines of varying degrees of complexity. As in Terminator, the computers that are designing and building these machines develop increasingly complex models, finally achieving designs that have appearances and behaviors indistinguishable from humans - all to complete its assigned task of killing the enemy, which apparently is every real human.
You could be thinking of Second Variety by Philip K Dick, made into the movie Screamers. Terminator was inspired by 2 Outer Limits episodes: Demon with a Glass Hand, and Soldier, both written by Harlan Ellison.

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Maximus wrote:You could be thinking of Second Variety by Philip K Dick, made into the movie Screamers. Terminator was inspired by 2 Outer Limits episodes: Demon with a Glass Hand, and Soldier, both written by Harlan Ellison.
Creepy coincidence time - I'm listening to the DADOES audiobook right now!

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Tapir wrote:
Jonathan wrote:Good grief.

Someone on Atheism+ posts a limerick that includes the word "wanker" and is accused of sexual harrassment!

What is wrong with these people?!
Christ, these people are demented.
And yet I'm not surprised. If I recall correctly Eowyn was the poster who once asked for a temporary ban from the forum because she had things she needed to do but couldn't bear to leave the computer.


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Skeptic_Duh wrote:
Zenspace wrote:
rayshul wrote:
Take a moment to really look and there is a hell of a lot more going on in there and most of it goes in the other direction - the target (by all visual indicators) is a murderous robot that happens to be constructed to resemble a human female.

Not a robot. She is a enhanced human - more cyborg than not. This causes some of them to go crazy, killing normal people. The squad is specially equipped to take on these e-humans.
Yup. When I posted the Cyberpunk thing was brand new to me. I went to the site and am now up to speed on the storyline. Also found, as codelette mentions in another post, that the music is by Archive, song titled 'Bullet'. I know what band I will be checking out tonight!

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Jonathan wrote:
Tapir wrote:
Jonathan wrote:Good grief.

Someone on Atheism+ posts a limerick that includes the word "wanker" and is accused of sexual harrassment!

What is wrong with these people?!
Christ, these people are demented.
And yet I'm not surprised. If I recall correctly Eowyn was the poster who once asked for a temporary ban from the forum because she had things she needed to do but couldn't bear to leave the computer.
It must be a terrible life for that lot.

Seeing sexual harassment in everything, rape is always just around the corner, the endless use of the BAN HIM! Hammer must be incredibly draining!

Poor bastards having to check every single post in every single thread so that all the words don't contain anything that would offend people if they were actually around to be offended. Every word also carries the heavy burden of having the very worst of implications rather than the actual intent of the person who typed it.

The stress of it all must be incredible

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zou3gou3 wrote:
Zenspace wrote:
No, that's not it. I'm familiar with Bladerunner history. That is a completely different plot line that Terminator. The story I'm recalling, like Terminator, is completely post apocalyptic. There are scattered human survivors being hunted by fully robotic 'hunterkillers', most of which are obviously autonomous machines of varying degrees of complexity. As in Terminator, the computers that are designing and building these machines develop increasingly complex models, finally achieving designs that have appearances and behaviors indistinguishable from humans - all to complete its assigned task of killing the enemy, which apparently is every real human.
You're probably thinking of "Second Variety" by Philip K. Dick. It can be found at http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/32032
Awesome! I think that's it! I didn't recall that Philip K. Dick was also the author of that story. It has been many, many years since I read it, but I never forgot the storyline. I downloaded the story to my Kindle to reread. Thanks so much for the link!

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Jonathan wrote:
Tapir wrote:
Jonathan wrote:Good grief.

Someone on Atheism+ posts a limerick that includes the word "wanker" and is accused of sexual harrassment!

What is wrong with these people?!
Christ, these people are demented.
And yet I'm not surprised. If I recall correctly Eowyn was the poster who once asked for a temporary ban from the forum because she had things she needed to do but couldn't bear to leave the computer.
Yeah, imagine somebody doing that...


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UnbelieveSteve wrote:Trying to post here using my notebook. Getting returns showing IP blocked for spamming. Funny. It shares the same broadband connection as my mobile device. (tether)
Weird.
Can admin drop me some advice on this or. . . . . anyone here who's seen this sort of thing before?
Are you using any anti-virus software with an active guard?

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An interesting article pointed to by Stephen Fry on twitter http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/com ... 46788.html

I couldn't but help to think of Greg Laden here. I also find it ironic that the reason some of us are anonymous is because of the possibility of real life harassment by bullies. Perhaps it seems more real when a non anonymous bully makes a threat?

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ReneeHendricks wrote:Sigh. Oh, Oolon.
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Do try to get it correct. I placed you on the "foe" list here and then blocked you on Twitter not because you and I had a conversation on Twitter but because I find you to be a distasteful, two-faced, fence-riding asshole.

Unfortunately, I still run across your dripping verbal diarrhea everywhere else on the 'net, it seems.
Oolon's post is wrong or dishonest because there's a huge difference between being ignored/foed and being banned. It's the difference between one person in a room refusing to listen to you, and being thrown out of the room altogether. For example I have yet to foe anyone, though I do skim long posts if they don't seem interesting to me. Similarly I expect that some of my posts are uninteresting to other people, and some may even have set me to ignore. However if I set someone to ignore, I wouldn't be removing their posts for everyone else who reads here, and that's important. That's why Eucliwood has been complimented on some of their posts even though they got a lot of grief when they first started. At FTB or A+, they would have been banned (or are banned) and that would have been the end of it with one more person excluded from those clubs. As far as I'm aware there's nothing stopping oolon from posting here except their own fear that no one will care.

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Re: The Periodic Table's Younger, Sexier, Sibling Thread...

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Tapir wrote:
Maximus wrote:You could be thinking of Second Variety by Philip K Dick, made into the movie Screamers. Terminator was inspired by 2 Outer Limits episodes: Demon with a Glass Hand, and Soldier, both written by Harlan Ellison.
Creepy coincidence time - I'm listening to the DADOES audiobook right now!
"Demon with a Glass Hand" is on youtube, it is worth a watch.

Philip K Dick did some good stuff.

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Mr Danksworth wrote:Here we go again...

http://bigthink.com/daylight-atheism/pe ... -community
Ah, Adam Lee. The thinking woman's oolon.
It's like he's trapped in a time warp from six months ago and doesn't realize that sticking a big Aplus sign on his petition now is simply going to cause people to snigger.
The focus, of course, is clear: Holding onto their precious invited speaker positions at all costs.

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Yeah, I went over and put a couple of comments. Here's my main comment.



Unfortunately Adam Lee is part of the team that is fighting tooth and nail AGAINST intersectionality.

This isn't about feminism. This is about what some people are calling "neofeminism". The problem is that neofeminism actually works against the concepts of intersectionality. The belief that privilege and power dynamics only work in one direction, and that issues can be based down to a singular axis of power differential, quite frankly, flies in the face of everything that intersectionality means.

If one sees equality on the left side of the spectrum, and overt hierarchy on the right side of the spectrum, the common belief is that the critics of neofeminism MUST be to the right of them...right?

No. I do not believe that is true for a second. Some are, of course. But most? I don't believe that to be true. I think most of the critics think that neofeminism has less of an equality stance than they personally have. I know I think that. I think that neofeminism is inherently a sexist, pro-hierarchical ideology. Full stop.

So this argument is about two groups that think each other is sexist, because the two ways of looking at gender and power differential are entirely different.

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Protip: That A+ is trying to do social justice without taking class into full account should tell you everything you need to know.

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