Tigzy wrote: ↑The funny thing about David Icke (okay,
one of the funny things) is that he is not an anti-semite, on the simple basis that when he talks of shadowy cabals of shapeshifting reptile aliens, he
literally means shadowy cabals of shapeshifting reptile aliens. He's not using antisemitic codewords here. However, as illustrated in Jon Ronson's book Them: Encounters With Extremists (and Ronson, himself a Jew, is also absolutely certain that Icke is being literal in his talk of reptile aliens), the problem is that Icke attracts a significant antisemitic following who
do believe that he's either using codewords, or that his only mistake is to believe that Jews and reptile aliens are mutually exclusive. In short, Icke is a very easily duped individual who has the unfortunate habit of attracting Jew-haters, rather like a certain Leader of the Opposition in the UK - though admittedly, Icke generally talks a lot more sense than Jeremy Corbyn.
He does
a good job at sounding like an anti-semite, though:
David Icke wrote:Israel is not a home for Jewish people. Let us not mince words here. The time for pussyfooting around is over. Israel is a base for the terrorists who created and control that state to operate, on behalf of the House of Rothschild and the Elite, a global terror and manipulation network. That is why it was created after the war and the influence of its intelligence ann, Mossad, is so vast for such a tiny country because Mossad is really the intelligence agency of the Rothschild-Rockefeller-
Global Elite, while genuine Jewish people who live in Israel (the vast, vast majority) are used as an innocent front, a smokescreen, for this.
B’nai B’rith means ‘Sons of the Alliance’ and was established in 1843. Many of its speakers openly supported slavery during the American Civil War and it covertly supports and controls the Ku Klux Klan.
Lansky (Israel) was trailing John Kennedy for a long time and, of course, Lansky hated the Kennedy family because of his conflict with Father Joe. It was a Lansky henchman on the West Coast called Mickey Cohen who was behind the introduction of Kennedy to the film star, Marilyn Monroe, after which they began a now much publicised relationship. The vehicle for this meeting was Cohen's close friend, the entertainer Joey Bishop, who was a member of the Frank Sinatra clique known as "The Rat Pack". The idea was to use Monroe to pump Kennedy for information about his attitude to Israel, should he become president. She was, of course, later murdered, although it was made to look like "suicide". Those who killed her also killed Kennedy.
"Israel is just a base for terrorism and manipulation, a Jewish organization secretly controls the Ku Klux Klan, and Meyer Lansky, on behalf of Israel, killed Marilyn Monroe and Kennedy. I have no evidence of this, but I'm not against Jews, I'm just asking questions about secret reptiles from outer space" Suuuure.
If someone wrote that the US are just a secret base for terrorism and manipulation, that an American society secretly controls ISIS, and that the US killed Gandhi, I'd say that they're pretty anti-American, even if they say that the real enemy are some bugs from Venus.
Now I'm not the biggest Israel supporter in the world, I think that the idea of a "Jewish state" is wrong in itself and far too close to ethno-nationalism or theocracy to produce any sort of good outcomes (and indeed the Israeli-Palestinian conflict shows exactly that) and I also think that Israel, just like Saudi Arabia or Turkey or Qatar, has a powerful political lobby in the US. Israel is more secular and democratic than any of its surrounding countries, but it's still engaging in identity politics and undue political pressure (and very recently allying itself with the KSA against Iran, indirectly supporting all the shit that the Saudis are pulling in Syria and Yemen).
But the shit that Icke writes are basically blood libel idiocy similar to the conspiracies about Jewish doctors hacking Palestinian children in half to sell their organs, or about how ISIS is secretly just a Jewish plot, both of which I've heard repeated MANY times in muslim circles, along with a lot of that drivel.
If he's not an anti-semite he's at least pandering to them to sell them his crazy idea of the reptile invasion.