Naked fat black crippled dykes are hard to find...

[Matt Cavanaugh]

https://i.imgur.com/mn5ALzp.jpg

It's true what they say, then. You are what you eat. In Lindy's case, that being a big dollop of clotted cream baby hippo.

FTFY, comrade.

[KiwiInOz]

We invite you to integrate into our madness .....

In what way was the original statement wrong, though? Muhammad doesn't get a pedo pass, nor does Jesus-God. That shit is messed up.

As for Zeus, into all that bestiality.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... arroti.jpg

[free thoughtpolice]

She is truly a goddess. She is the only one.
I might add that gods and nephilim may file lawsuits about this "only one" claim. Let's be prudent here!

[jugheadnaut]

“Let me tell you about the very rich. They are different from you and me.

Sargon was earning over £150K (or perhaps $'s) a year - when totaling everything up.

Milo would have had to have been at a similar level - before his recent financial issues came to light. ($4 mill in dept according to some reports).

Both have enjoyed the fruits of their benefactors labours for sometime now. I'm not going to take delight in their misfortune - but I will say that their entire lifestyles were predicated on the kindness of strangers and corporations. I've not donated anything to them - and will not be working against them either - but I put both of them in the 'charity' category - and any disposable income I have in that department will be prioritised to more worthy causes first. (After all - It is the season).

I wish them no ill will - but with the amounts they have been earning - I think I can afford to look after my own life first before shedding any tears for their cause.

When things happen to rich people it somehow doesn't seem so bad. Actually, if things happens to any other people (no matter what their income level) it's never quite as big of a deal.

Whether he was earning $150K or $1.5 million a year, and even if you have not a whit of sympathy for Sargon or Milo, the concerning thing is this is yet another example of thinly veiled viewpoint based discrimination by social media sites against any view to the right of Hilary Clinton. I wish one of the existing respected individual rights organizations like FIRE or Heterodox Academy would broaden their mandate to cover social media. If FIRE had free speech rankings for social media like they do for universities, it would provide some shame to counter the preening virtue signalling they enjoy when doing something like this.

[Brive1987]

We invite you to integrate into our madness .....

In what way was the original statement wrong, though? Muhammad doesn't get a pedo pass, nor does Jesus-God. That shit is messed up.

Mo isn’t family.

[jugheadnaut]

Mo isn’t family.

When a Muslim celebrity is accused of sexual harassment, the hashtag should be #MoToo.

[free thoughtpolice]

:rimshot:

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

Which again raises the question as to why all major interwebs functions are solidly left-wing. Decidedly to the far-left in most cases. Why no right-wing companies? I wonder if the same reasoning for women and minorities apply to why right-wing are underrepresented in STEM...?

[Ape+lust]

Whether he was earning $150K or $1.5 million a year, and even if you have not a whit of sympathy for Sargon or Milo, the concerning thing is this is yet another example of thinly veiled viewpoint based discrimination by social media sites against any view to the right of Hilary Clinton. I wish one of the existing respected individual rights organizations like FIRE or Heterodox Academy would broaden their mandate to cover social media. If FIRE had free speech rankings for social media like they do for universities, it would provide some shame to counter the preening virtue signalling they enjoy when doing something like this.

This is starting to resemble the Mark of the Beast stuff that American fundies feared for decades.

And in a reversal that seem to be characteristic of our time, it's the Left asserting the right of private companies to do as they like, and the Right is talking about trust-busting Facebook, Google, Paypal, et al :shock:

[Kirbmarc]

Mo isn’t family.

When a Muslim celebrity is accused of sexual harassment, the hashtag should be #MoToo.

Tariq Ramadan, a slimy and sleazy Salafi cunt masquerading as a public intellectual, has been charged with the rape of two women, and is in jail awaiting trial.

[Kirbmarc]

We invite you to integrate into our madness .....

In what way was the original statement wrong, though? Muhammad doesn't get a pedo pass, nor does Jesus-God. That shit is messed up.

As for Zeus, into all that bestiality.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... arroti.jpg

Religion is deeply messed up. :bjarte:

The idea of a super-powerful sapient individual that is not accountable to human beings in any way, shape or form is troubling in itself. It's a good thing that gods are likely not real, because if they were they'd likely be the supreme tyrants.

[Kirbmarc]

We invite you to integrate into our madness .....

In what way was the original statement wrong, though? Muhammad doesn't get a pedo pass, nor does Jesus-God. That shit is messed up.

Mo isn’t family.

If a member of my family abused of a teenage girl I wouldn't defend them just because they're family. The idea that family should trump moral standards is the prelude to tribalism. It's NOT OK when "we" do it.

[shoutinghorse]

In what way was the original statement wrong, though? Muhammad doesn't get a pedo pass, nor does Jesus-God. That shit is messed up.

Because God is a made up pedo and Mo was a real one.

[Brive1987]

We invite you to integrate into our madness .....

In what way was the original statement wrong, though? Muhammad doesn't get a pedo pass, nor does Jesus-God. That shit is messed up.

Mo isn’t family.

If a member of my family abused of a teenage girl I wouldn't defend them just because they're family. The idea that family should trump moral standards is the prelude to tribalism. It's NOT OK when "we" do it.

I’ve now seen two people get upset at God fucking Mary without her noticing.

The first was a liberal trying to shit on Western tradition because of nihilistic self destructiveness.
The second is a riddle.

[Kirbmarc]

I’ve now seen two people get upset at God fucking Mary without her noticing.

The first was a liberal trying to shit on Western tradition because of nihilistic self destructiveness.
The second is a riddle.

Or maybe the motivation is to point out how religious thinking gets people to accept moral lapses with ease, even if they're just hypothetical.

[shoutinghorse]

A bacon sarnie a day keeps the white coats away.

[SM1957]

4 out of 10 Africans go in for cultural appropriation on a massive scale.

Our whiteness is not your fashion accessory!

https://www.dw.com/en/is-black-not-beau ... a-46522342

[Keating]

I’ve now seen two people get upset at God fucking Mary without her noticing.

The first was a liberal trying to shit on Western tradition because of nihilistic self destructiveness.
The second is a riddle.

Or maybe the motivation is to point out how religious thinking gets people to accept moral lapses with ease, even if they're just hypothetical.

Except it isn't true in Christianity. The ArchAngel Gabriel comes to Mary and tells her God has picked her. She consents. It isn't rape. That is what the feast of the Annunciation is about.

[Keating]

Which again raises the question as to why all major interwebs functions are solidly left-wing. Decidedly to the far-left in most cases. Why no right-wing companies? I wonder if the same reasoning for women and minorities apply to why right-wing are underrepresented in STEM...?

I suppose that depends on what you mean by "right wing". The particular thing about the current iteration of left wing is that the "personal is political", which means that everything must have politics injected into it. The companies that don't get involved thus are either neutral or right wing. The right wing companies only really show themselves when governments try to force them to do things they don't believe in. Cake baking, birth control, even suggesting there is something to discuss when it comes to gay marriage.

There's also the adage that any organisation that isn't explicitly right wing, will eventually become left wing.

[ThreeFlangedJavis]

Which again raises the question as to why all major interwebs functions are solidly left-wing. Decidedly to the far-left in most cases. Why no right-wing companies? I wonder if the same reasoning for women and minorities apply to why right-wing are underrepresented in STEM...?

Possibly a proclivity of obsessive tech nerds who originate such platforms? Perhaps a susceptibility to social bullying in same?

[ThreeFlangedJavis]

You know what they say about a lie circumnavigating the globe before the truth slips into it's underjocks.
https://www.msn.com/en-za/money/technol ... spartandhp

The festival’s keynote speaker, Anita Sarkeesian, was one of the targets of an international social media campaign in 2014 that was launched to scare women off social media and away from game development studios. #Gamergate supporters attacked those who advocated for fairer representation of women in the industry, with some even receiving death threats.

Beats me why anyone thinks Gamergaters won the battle. Also beats me why anyone still believes the media giving a flying wotsit about truth.

[Fegg]

We invite you to integrate into our madness .....

In what way was the original statement wrong, though? Muhammad doesn't get a pedo pass, nor does Jesus-God. That shit is messed up.

God isn't playing the male role in the story. I suppose one might think atheist activism justifies the pretense, but it does look petty and stupid.

One is on firm ground disbelieving in miracles. One is rather silly to turn a miracle story into something else.

B.

[MarcusAu]

It seems that god is non-binary.

Does it really come as a surprise that a university professor is liberal and says things that identify him as such?

This seems more like identifying what tribe you are in - rather than arguing a point. However, if free speech is your concern - then people should be able to say all kinds of things.

And no - I don't think it is indicative of the death of western culture that he said what he said.

[MarcusAu]

The ArchAngel Gabriel comes to Mary and tells her God has picked her. She consents.

It seems like there was power differential in that relationship. If the creator of the universe comes to you and says that this is what he wants you to do - then there is more than a little pressure (even if only by implication). There may be reason to suspect that the decision was made under duress.

At some point the story falls apart - even as a metaphor - people can make their own decision as to where that point is.

But I am not a theologian so don't need to split hairs...

[DrokkIt]

Anyone remember when Sargon tried to get social justice courses shutdown via petition?

I'm sure if he'd been successful, there would have been people with their income cut off. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, can't really feel that much sympathy for people who themselves have attempted the same kind of tactics.

[Tigzy]

Whether he was earning $150K or $1.5 million a year, and even if you have not a whit of sympathy for Sargon or Milo, the concerning thing is this is yet another example of thinly veiled viewpoint based discrimination by social media sites against any view to the right of Hilary Clinton. I wish one of the existing respected individual rights organizations like FIRE or Heterodox Academy would broaden their mandate to cover social media. If FIRE had free speech rankings for social media like they do for universities, it would provide some shame to counter the preening virtue signalling they enjoy when doing something like this.

This is starting to resemble the Mark of the Beast stuff that American fundies feared for decades.

And in a reversal that seem to be characteristic of our time, it's the Left asserting the right of private companies to do as they like, and the Right is talking about trust-busting Facebook, Google, Paypal, et al :shock:

There's no better illustration of the vapidity of our hip young lefties than the expression they so gleefully love to deploy: 'Private entities don't owe you a platform.'

It's like - wait, so you're a socialist, and you're quite happy with having multinational capitalist corporations as the gatekeepers of free speech? Have you thought this through?

[Kirbmarc]

I’ve now seen two people get upset at God fucking Mary without her noticing.

The first was a liberal trying to shit on Western tradition because of nihilistic self destructiveness.
The second is a riddle.

Or maybe the motivation is to point out how religious thinking gets people to accept moral lapses with ease, even if they're just hypothetical.

Except it isn't true in Christianity. The ArchAngel Gabriel comes to Mary and tells her God has picked her. She consents. It isn't rape. That is what the feast of the Annunciation is about.

I was thinking more about the age of Mary, which is said to be underage. This matters because in some cases, like in the case of the defenders of Roy Moore, Mary's young age and her divine pregnancy/marriage to Joseph is used to justify statutory rape.

An Alabama state official on Thursday dismissed a Washington Post report alleging that GOP Senate candidate Roy Moore had initiated a sexual encounter with a 14-year-old girl decades ago, saying there was an age gap between the biblical Joseph and Mary. The Post also alleged that Moore had pursued three others when they were between the ages of 16 and 18 and he was in his early 30s.

“Take Joseph and Mary. Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter. They became parents of Jesus,” Alabama State Auditor Jim Zeigler told The Washington Examiner. “There’s just nothing immoral or illegal here. Maybe just a little bit unusual.”

While this was probably common in those times, it CAN be used to justify behavior we now find unacceptable. Which is the same thing that happens with Aisha's marriage to Mohammed.

I'm aware that far less Christians use those arguments than Muslims do, but the potential for the justification is still there.

[Kirbmarc]

The replies to the argument created on the basis of the Bible to defend Roy Moore are interesting:

“Bringing Joseph and Mary into a modern-day molestation accusation, where a 32-year-old prosecutor is accused of molesting a 14-year-old girl, is simultaneously ridiculous and blasphemous,” said Ed Stetzer, a pastor and church consultant who holds the Billy Graham Chair of Church, Mission and Evangelism at Wheaton College. “Even those who followed ancient marriage customs, which we would not follow today, knew the difference between molesting and marriage.”

“Women were chattel back then, they were traded — of course they married men who were much older and had multiple wives,” said the Rev. Amy Butler, senior minister of the Riverside Church, a historical and prominent interdenominational church in New York City. “It’s completely ludicrous to equate the sex assault of a minor with an ancient culture. It’s ludicrous . . . It makes me want to rip the church back from these people.”

It seems that the main difference between most Christians, even a lot of religious leaders, and a large number of muslims, is the acceptance that society marches on, at least on certain aspects. There are SOME muslim leaders who are genuinely ready to accept this, but they're marginalized, while the strict traditionalists are the ones in charge and with economic, political and social power.

It's as if in order for some things to improve, traditions shouldn't be eternally binding and cultures should be allowed to change instead of being worshiped as sacred. Imagine that.

[ThreeFlangedJavis]

Anyone remember when Sargon tried to get social justice courses shutdown via petition?

I'm sure if he'd been successful, there would have been people with their income cut off. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, can't really feel that much sympathy for people who themselves have attempted the same kind of tactics.

The taxpayer isn't funding Sargon. Are you suggesting that people be content that the public purse is used to create political activists of one particular stripe? If that isn't an abuse of tax money, I don't know what is.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

A bacon sarnie a day keeps the white coats away.

I think it's the other way around.

[John D]

Why Ban Alex Jones?.... because.... muh Nazis.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Does it really come as a surprise that a university professor is liberal and says things that identify him as such?

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

We invite you to integrate into our madness .....

In what way was the original statement wrong, though? Muhammad doesn't get a pedo pass, nor does Jesus-God. That shit is messed up.

God isn't playing the male role in the story. I suppose one might think atheist activism justifies the pretense, but it does look petty and stupid.

One is on firm ground disbelieving in miracles. One is rather silly to turn a miracle story into something else.

B.

Why? As a lesson in morality, it thoroughly sucks. It depicts a completely unethical act, one of many that completely undermine the pretense that the bible is an ethical book.

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

Which again raises the question as to why all major interwebs functions are solidly left-wing. Decidedly to the far-left in most cases. Why no right-wing companies? I wonder if the same reasoning for women and minorities apply to why right-wing are underrepresented in STEM...?

Possibly a proclivity of obsessive tech nerds who originate such platforms? Perhaps a susceptibility to social bullying in same?

Most all of STEM leans pretty left, sometimes, as we see, dangerously left. One might wonder if it is proclivity or ability that sorts this out. While I know some conservatives in computer-related fields, the vast number tend to be fairly left. Nor do i think bullying would account for the lack of right-wing viewpoints. It's an interesting phenomenon.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Which again raises the question as to why all major interwebs functions are solidly left-wing. Decidedly to the far-left in most cases. Why no right-wing companies? I wonder if the same reasoning for women and minorities apply to why right-wing are underrepresented in STEM...?

Possibly a proclivity of obsessive tech nerds who originate such platforms? Perhaps a susceptibility to social bullying in same?

Most all of STEM leans pretty left, sometimes, as we see, dangerously left. One might wonder if it is proclivity or ability that sorts this out. While I know some conservatives in computer-related fields, the vast number tend to be fairly left. Nor do i think bullying would account for the lack of right-wing viewpoints. It's an interesting phenomenon.

Entrepreneurs score high on the Big 5 trait of Openness, which also correlates to left-leaning politics.

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

Which again raises the question as to why all major interwebs functions are solidly left-wing. Decidedly to the far-left in most cases. Why no right-wing companies? I wonder if the same reasoning for women and minorities apply to why right-wing are underrepresented in STEM...?

Possibly a proclivity of obsessive tech nerds who originate such platforms? Perhaps a susceptibility to social bullying in same?

Most all of STEM leans pretty left, sometimes, as we see, dangerously left. One might wonder if it is proclivity or ability that sorts this out. While I know some conservatives in computer-related fields, the vast number tend to be fairly left. Nor do i think bullying would account for the lack of right-wing viewpoints. It's an interesting phenomenon.

Entrepreneurs score high on the Big 5 trait of Openness, which also correlates to left-leaning politics.

Interestingly, most of the rank-and-file are left as well. Walk into a science lab most places (well, you'll be arrested, so get a pass first) and they tend towards the left. Most all of STEM leans fairly left, science and computer anyway. Not entirely, and this is of course anecdotal, but I think we're seeing some of that play out in politics, especially on online platforms.

[jugheadnaut]

Entrepreneurs score high on the Big 5 trait of Openness, which also correlates to left-leaning politics.

I would say it correlates to liberalism rather than left-leaning politics. If I recall correctly, the strongest political viewpoint correlate to Openness is libertarianism. I doubt very much that it correlates with the sort of regressive leftism we're seeing on display.

[Kirbmarc]

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: ↑
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:21 am
Which again raises the question as to why all major interwebs functions are solidly left-wing. Decidedly to the far-left in most cases. Why no right-wing companies? I wonder if the same reasoning for women and minorities apply to why right-wing are underrepresented in STEM...?
Possibly a proclivity of obsessive tech nerds who originate such platforms? Perhaps a susceptibility to social bullying in same?
Most all of STEM leans pretty left, sometimes, as we see, dangerously left. One might wonder if it is proclivity or ability that sorts this out. While I know some conservatives in computer-related fields, the vast number tend to be fairly left. Nor do i think bullying would account for the lack of right-wing viewpoints. It's an interesting phenomenon.
Entrepreneurs score high on the Big 5 trait of Openness, which also correlates to left-leaning politics.
Interestingly, most of the rank-and-file are left as well. Walk into a science lab most places (well, you'll be arrested, so get a pass first) and they tend towards the left. Most all of STEM leans fairly left, science and computer anyway. Not entirely, and this is of course anecdotal, but I think we're seeing some of that play out in politics, especially on online platforms.

Academia in general leans more liberal with some exceptions. I think that this happens because conservatives tend to be less interested in most academic subjects. Openness to experience seems a big factor in general to be both an academic and to be liberal or at least not a conservative. Of course this is a trend, not a black and white distinction, and there are different degrees of conservative and liberal positions, but conservative tend to value tradition and religion over experimentation and questioning assumptions.

[Kirbmarc]

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: ↑
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:21 am
Which again raises the question as to why all major interwebs functions are solidly left-wing. Decidedly to the far-left in most cases. Why no right-wing companies? I wonder if the same reasoning for women and minorities apply to why right-wing are underrepresented in STEM...?
Possibly a proclivity of obsessive tech nerds who originate such platforms? Perhaps a susceptibility to social bullying in same?
Most all of STEM leans pretty left, sometimes, as we see, dangerously left. One might wonder if it is proclivity or ability that sorts this out. While I know some conservatives in computer-related fields, the vast number tend to be fairly left. Nor do i think bullying would account for the lack of right-wing viewpoints. It's an interesting phenomenon.
Entrepreneurs score high on the Big 5 trait of Openness, which also correlates to left-leaning politics.
Interestingly, most of the rank-and-file are left as well. Walk into a science lab most places (well, you'll be arrested, so get a pass first) and they tend towards the left. Most all of STEM leans fairly left, science and computer anyway. Not entirely, and this is of course anecdotal, but I think we're seeing some of that play out in politics, especially on online platforms.

Academia in general leans more liberal with some exceptions. I think that this happens because conservatives tend to be less interested in most academic subjects. Openness to experience seems a big factor in general to be both an academic and to be liberal or at least not a conservative. Of course this is a trend, not a black and white distinction, and there are different degrees of conservative and liberal positions, but conservative tend to value tradition and religion over experimentation and questioning assumptions.

[jugheadnaut]

While I have no doubt there are some true believers among the leading executives of social media companies, I strongly suspect the main motivation for stifling free speech is fear of the SJW-Twitter mob and their signal boosters in the media. It's simply easier to go along, agree that it's hate speech and have the issue fade away than be considered fair game by this mob and be slandered for months. I think the SJW-Twitter influence is wildly disproportionate to actual numbers, much in the same way the Moral Majority was in the '80s. It will take a company with the guts to stand up to them, see their braying has little impact, and a small army of defenders emerge before this horrible situation wanes.

[shoutinghorse]

Even Hitler respected Switzerland's neutrality better than the EU.

The deal is highly sensitive since it would mean Swiss rules change automatically in line with EU law and give the European Court of Justice a role in resolving conflicts

[MarcusAu]

Anyone remember when Sargon tried to get social justice courses shutdown via petition?

I'm sure if he'd been successful, there would have been people with their income cut off. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, can't really feel that much sympathy for people who themselves have attempted the same kind of tactics.

If it's any consolation - you've probably done as much as anyone here to support his cause.

[screwtape]

Even Hitler respected Switzerland's neutrality better than the EU.

The deal is highly sensitive since it would mean Swiss rules change automatically in line with EU law and give the European Court of Justice a role in resolving conflicts

In the past, Switzerland understood that it could benefit from exploiting the differences between it and other nations. I rather hope the Swiss respond to this with a large raspberry and tell the EU to keep its nose out of Swiss business. Time for numbered accounts to be reinstated!

In other news, and for the knife owners, I have been experimenting with some natural stones on my razors. It's not excessively expensive to obtain a Belgian Blue (~4k), a Coticule (~8K) and a Thuringian (~12k) stone. I've several of them, including one Thuringian branded as an Escher, which is now unobtainable as the quarry is now part of a protected national park and no further stone can be quarried.
For the uninitiated, I'll point out that hones and stones can sharpen three ways:
1. The included grit size is uniform and deliberately placed there in a substrate that acts as a matrix that will gradually abrade. These are man-made ceramic hones, usually waterstones.
2. The grit size is irrelevant, as the substrate is so hard that only the scratch pattern on the surface matters, and placing that there is up to you and some diamond lapping plates. This applies to some Spyderco man-made ceramic hones, and also to Arkansas natural stones. These are not waterstones as they are impermeable.
3. The substrate is soft, the abrasive particles are easily released, and if a slurry is raised on the surface of the stone, the effective grit size will depend on the density of abrasive particles in the slurry. Such a stone will behave as a coarse, medium, fine or ultrafine hone as the slurry is diluted.

So I've been exploiting the third method with the Belgian Blue, Coticule and Escher, followed by the first kind of honing with even finer waterstones from Suehiro Gokumyo (20K) and Shapton (30k) on a variety of straight razors. O1 tool steel, handmade high-carbon damascus, industrial Swedish stainless damascus, old Sheffield silver steel, 'cast' steel and some Swedish Eskilstuna carbon. I have red, green and black pastes on paddle strops for making those edges even finer, and the shaves with my homemade soap are delightful. I wish my beard grew faster so I could hone and shave more. All of this is applicable to Opinels and Laguioles, although I don't see a need for anything beyond 4k for a knife.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

FYI, discussion at WEIT on a National Geocatholic documentary short titled "Christianity 101":

https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.co ... nt-1682340

[AndrewV69]

In other news, and for the knife owners, I have been experimenting with some natural stones on my razors. It's not excessively expensive to obtain a Belgian Blue (~4k), a Coticule (~8K) and a Thuringian (~12k) stone. I've several of them, including one Thuringian branded as an Escher, which is now unobtainable as the quarry is now part of a protected national park and no further stone can be quarried.
For the uninitiated, I'll point out that hones and stones can sharpen three ways:
1. The included grit size is uniform and deliberately placed there in a substrate that acts as a matrix that will gradually abrade. These are man-made ceramic hones, usually waterstones.
2. The grit size is irrelevant, as the substrate is so hard that only the scratch pattern on the surface matters, and placing that there is up to you and some diamond lapping plates. This applies to some Spyderco man-made ceramic hones, and also to Arkansas natural stones. These are not waterstones as they are impermeable.
3. The substrate is soft, the abrasive particles are easily released, and if a slurry is raised on the surface of the stone, the effective grit size will depend on the density of abrasive particles in the slurry. Such a stone will behave as a coarse, medium, fine or ultrafine hone as the slurry is diluted.

So I've been exploiting the third method with the Belgian Blue, Coticule and Escher, followed by the first kind of honing with even finer waterstones from Suehiro Gokumyo (20K) and Shapton (30k) on a variety of straight razors. O1 tool steel, handmade high-carbon damascus, industrial Swedish stainless damascus, old Sheffield silver steel, 'cast' steel and some Swedish Eskilstuna carbon. I have red, green and black pastes on paddle strops for making those edges even finer, and the shaves with my homemade soap are delightful. I wish my beard grew faster so I could hone and shave more. All of this is applicable to Opinels and Laguioles, although I don't see a need for anything beyond 4k for a knife.

I have never worried much about sharpening as a fine art. Instead resorting to off the shelf hand sharpeners (Henckels, Kitchen Aid, and a Samurai Shark for everything else) plus an electric Chef's Choice Hybrid 200-3 (for a knife that would not hold an edge after three days of slicing meat).

If you think that is bad I know someone who uses a metal file.

But, if I was to take a stab at it, would this then, a NATURAL PIERRE DES PYRÉNÉES / BELGIAN BLUE COMBI STONE 1200 / 4K - 10K be a good place to start?

https://www.workshopheaven.com/media/ca ... ticule.jpg

[KiwiInOz]

The ArchAngel Gabriel comes to Mary and tells her God has picked her. She consents.

It seems like there was power differential in that relationship. If the creator of the universe comes to you and says that this is what he wants you to do - then there is more than a little pressure (even if only by implication). There may be reason to suspect that the decision was made under duress.

At some point the story falls apart - even as a metaphor - people can make their own decision as to where that point is.

But I am not a theologian so don't need to split hairs...

That's worse. Gabriel solicited a young virgin for him.

[Brive1987]

...

It's as if in order for some things to improve, traditions shouldn't be eternally binding and cultures should be allowed to change instead of being worshiped as sacred. Imagine that.

Why do you create such dichotomies? Everything changes. Over time. The argument has always been against rapid and enforced change per ideological directive.

Oh. And commiserations over Switzerland’s euro-rape. If required, do you have a Plan B?

[screwtape]

Andrew, certainly. With a knife, the edge you get is more about maintaining the same angle all along the blade. That angle will be anything from 30º for a general purpose pocket knife, to 20º for a sharp skinning knife or even 15º for a Japanese kitchen knife. My razors make all that easy - keep the spine and the edge on the hone and the angle is set (though some play with the angle with a fold of electrical tape along the spine). Razor issues are mostly due to excess pressure which deforms a blade so that you don't hone on the edge of the bevel, but a little proximal to it.

A Canadian alternative for a coarse and fine combo stone for a knife would be this one: Belgian Blue/Carborundum Combination Stones

Timber Tools have a Canadian store and ship from it so no duty applies. These are a good deal cheaper than the one you linked.

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

In other news, and for the knife owners, I have been experimenting with some natural stones on my razors. It's not excessively expensive to obtain a Belgian Blue (~4k), a Coticule (~8K) and a Thuringian (~12k) stone. I've several of them, including one Thuringian branded as an Escher, which is now unobtainable as the quarry is now part of a protected national park and no further stone can be quarried.
For the uninitiated, I'll point out that hones and stones can sharpen three ways:
1. The included grit size is uniform and deliberately placed there in a substrate that acts as a matrix that will gradually abrade. These are man-made ceramic hones, usually waterstones.
2. The grit size is irrelevant, as the substrate is so hard that only the scratch pattern on the surface matters, and placing that there is up to you and some diamond lapping plates. This applies to some Spyderco man-made ceramic hones, and also to Arkansas natural stones. These are not waterstones as they are impermeable.
3. The substrate is soft, the abrasive particles are easily released, and if a slurry is raised on the surface of the stone, the effective grit size will depend on the density of abrasive particles in the slurry. Such a stone will behave as a coarse, medium, fine or ultrafine hone as the slurry is diluted.

So I've been exploiting the third method with the Belgian Blue, Coticule and Escher, followed by the first kind of honing with even finer waterstones from Suehiro Gokumyo (20K) and Shapton (30k) on a variety of straight razors. O1 tool steel, handmade high-carbon damascus, industrial Swedish stainless damascus, old Sheffield silver steel, 'cast' steel and some Swedish Eskilstuna carbon. I have red, green and black pastes on paddle strops for making those edges even finer, and the shaves with my homemade soap are delightful. I wish my beard grew faster so I could hone and shave more. All of this is applicable to Opinels and Laguioles, although I don't see a need for anything beyond 4k for a knife.

I have never worried much about sharpening as a fine art. Instead resorting to off the shelf hand sharpeners (Henckels, Kitchen Aid, and a Samurai Shark for everything else) plus an electric Chef's Choice Hybrid 200-3 (for a knife that would not hold an edge after three days of slicing meat).

If you think that is bad I know someone who uses a metal file.

But, if I was to take a stab at it, would this then, a NATURAL PIERRE DES PYRÉNÉES / BELGIAN BLUE COMBI STONE 1200 / 4K - 10K be a good place to start?

https://www.workshopheaven.com/media/ca ... ticule.jpg

Honestly, MHO is that the means is not as important as the method. Doc has a connisouer's taste and a fine appreciation of the art. But it really depends how much you are in to the meditative part of sharpening. Although I have a fair number of stones, whetstone, wet-stones and diamond plates, I often just use wet/dry sandpaper over a piece of glass. Now that my dominant arm is messed up, for any major task I usually use a Ken Onion WorkSharp. I am usually against electric gadgets, but I needed something that did a variety of angles and could be used mostly with my non-dominant hand. Do make certain to get a strop, as it will keep the blade sharper and makes it easy to touch up the edge. A good strop is a must-have investment.

Good technique is key, keeping your angles correct and the stroke. Lots of good tutorials out there, I'm sure.

[Brive1987]

I’ve now seen two people get upset at God fucking Mary without her noticing.

The first was a liberal trying to shit on Western tradition because of nihilistic self destructiveness.
The second is a riddle.

Or maybe the motivation is to point out how religious thinking gets people to accept moral lapses with ease, even if they're just hypothetical.

But really all you have done is highlight a lack of awareness between metaphysical conception and actual rape.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam ... width=1240

In any case ...

God knew she would have wanted it. The power of ‘middle knowledge’.

[Brive1987]

The ArchAngel Gabriel comes to Mary and tells her God has picked her. She consents.

It seems like there was power differential in that relationship. If the creator of the universe comes to you and says that this is what he wants you to do - then there is more than a little pressure (even if only by implication). There may be reason to suspect that the decision was made under duress.

At some point the story falls apart - even as a metaphor - people can make their own decision as to where that point is.

But I am not a theologian so don't need to split hairs...

That's worse. Gabriel solicited a young virgin for him.

How would you suggest God should seek booty? He’s pretty unapproachable despite all those Brides of Christ.

[AndrewV69]

So, protests ongoing after four weeks.

[Brive1987]

And no - I don't think it is indicative of the death of western culture that he said what he said.

It’s a data point. And it illustrates the corrosive #metoo glee in some quarters.

But you knew that already eh?

[CommanderTuvok]

CJ Werleman still has his Patreon. I'm sure a whole load of people far, far worse than Sargon still have Patreon and various other "blue ticks", accounts, and pages in tact.

There was also some feminist of the TERF variety who got banned from Twitter, or something, recently.

Seems if you upset Muslims or Trannies, you are vulnerable to getting banned. If you are a terrorist or a violence-endorsing anarchist/communist, you're OK.

It is this double standard that gets on people's tits.

[KiwiInOz]

The ArchAngel Gabriel comes to Mary and tells her God has picked her. She consents.

It seems like there was power differential in that relationship. If the creator of the universe comes to you and says that this is what he wants you to do - then there is more than a little pressure (even if only by implication). There may be reason to suspect that the decision was made under duress.

At some point the story falls apart - even as a metaphor - people can make their own decision as to where that point is.

But I am not a theologian so don't need to split hairs...

That's worse. Gabriel solicited a young virgin for him.

How would you suggest God should seek booty? He’s pretty unapproachable despite all those Brides of Christ.

Zeus seduces; Yahweh procures. Therein lies the difference.

[screwtape]

... Now that my dominant arm is messed up...

Oh, I know. I have no pulses in my dominant right arm since I spent a day with my right brachial artery compressed against a kitchen counter as I held my old Sharp Innova .22* and waited for a few hours for a rat to come back. I had a nice shower of splinter hemorrhages under my right fingernails that night, and have paid for my stupidity since by coping with a dominant arm doing everything as if I were working vertically, like screwing a screw into a ceiling. It worked comfortably as my blood pressure rose for various other reasons (which even fooled me into thinking I was growing collateral vessels) but once I recognised the BP as being ridiculously high I had to not only treat the BP, but also accept the wretchedly poor blood flow.

*I no longer use such ancient air weapons. Most rats are taken with a Brocock Concept PCP sighted in for work on the deck, whilst some are taken with an Air Arms S410 PCP sighted in across my parking area. Others require a CO2 powered Crosman 2240 pistol with a laser sight. I'm up to 61 rats after the one that did in my right arm. The buggers will pay.

[MarcusAu]

How would you suggest God should seek booty? He’s pretty unapproachable despite all those Brides of Christ.

Find a girl from a nice pantheon and settle down.

It's how he hooked up with Asherah after all.

[MarcusAu]

And no - I don't think it is indicative of the death of western culture that he said what he said.

It’s a data point. And it illustrates the corrosive #metoo glee in some quarters.

But you knew that already eh?

Such comments have been prominent enough over the last 30 years - so pre-date #metoo or even hash-tags in general.

If there was ever a time that the west was never not in decline - I reckon there would still be someone pointing to a data point to say that it was.

[Brive1987]

It’s

The Pit has a royal charter to collect SJ aligned data points.

1912 was a pretty good non-declining year. Apart from the Titanic .... and Piltdown Man which were of course offset by kicking Turkish ass in the First Balkan War.

[Brive1987]

Oorah.