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Third place definitely deserves something...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtDIijmFbqw

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This could have been written by Kirb:
https://quillette.com/2018/09/27/purity ... versalism/

What it misses, of course, is that it isn’t necessary a desire for purity or lack of faith in meritocracy that is driving a lot of it, but the realisation that that cannot work with an academy that erases history and demonises the culture those ideas arose from, nor with mass migration of peoples who do not share those values.

A Western Liberal democracy requires the vast majority of the population to share the values that sustain it.

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I guess this belongs here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT2-1zdEODE

nb I was going to post about another movie with Hugh John Laurie - but this can serve as a placeholder while I ruminate on it

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The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp?

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Lsuoma wrote: The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp?
You know that is pretty damn close to what I had in mind...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdzHkMAUYVA

It was also done of Powell...as was the sequel in 1978...though I've not watched them yet (I was distracted by 'Devil Girl from Mars' in which the ubiquitous Mr Laurie also appears).

The theme of the dying of a certain way of life has always been with us.

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On the other hand some aspects of 'culture' that need to die...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f_A_frJKP4




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The glasses are a nice look. And it seems like a reasonable cause.

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I just found out that Faith Goldy went on a podcast of the freaking Daily Stormer.

"Alt-Lite" :bjarte:

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This would probably be food for thought for Brive:


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Brive1987 wrote: The glasses are a nice look. And it seems like a reasonable cause.
You could conjecture that short-sightedness is a contributing factor.

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Kirbmarc wrote: I just found out that Faith Goldy went on a podcast of the freaking Daily Stormer.

"Alt-Lite" :bjarte:
Oh do try and keep up - if you are referring to her post Charlottesville interview by the Krypto Report back in August last year. The one that got her fired from Rebel.

There are only three things that are ever put into her narrative by the left. Her being interviewed/fired. The 14 words. And white genocide. If you are lucky you might get a deus vult in Bethlehem thrown in.

In modern parlance, it’s the default NPC line to stop conversation on her actual platform of confronting demonstrable demographic (and hence cultural) change brought on by the libtards. She was foolish to allow a “fuck you” attitude to be used to define her brand.

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Brive1987 wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:34 am
Kirbmarc wrote: I just found out that Faith Goldy went on a podcast of the freaking Daily Stormer.

"Alt-Lite" :bjarte:
Oh do try and keep up - if you are referring to her post Charlottesville interview by the Krypto Report back in August last year. The one that got her fired from Rebel.

There are only three things that are ever put into her narrative by the left. Her being interviewed/fired. The 14 words. And white genocide. If you are lucky you might get a deus vult in Bethlehem thrown in.

In modern parlance, it’s the default NPC line to stop conversation on her actual platform of confronting demonstrable demographic (and hence cultural) change brought on by the libtards. She was foolish to allow a “fuck you” attitude to be used to define her brand.

So the Daily Stormer thing is no big deal for you? I thought you hated the Nazis. Or is the Daily Stormer "alt-lite", too?

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At this point Goldy could raise her arm and shout "Sieg Hail!" and you'd still bitch about the "libtards" who unjustly smear her as far-right when she's just a Concerned Citizen.

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Kirbmarc wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:34 am
Kirbmarc wrote: I just found out that Faith Goldy went on a podcast of the freaking Daily Stormer.

"Alt-Lite" :bjarte:
Oh do try and keep up - if you are referring to her post Charlottesville interview by the Krypto Report back in August last year. The one that got her fired from Rebel.

There are only three things that are ever put into her narrative by the left. Her being interviewed/fired. The 14 words. And white genocide. If you are lucky you might get a deus vult in Bethlehem thrown in.

In modern parlance, it’s the default NPC line to stop conversation on her actual platform of confronting demonstrable demographic (and hence cultural) change brought on by the libtards. She was foolish to allow a “fuck you” attitude to be used to define her brand.

So the Daily Stormer thing is no big deal for you? I thought you hated the Nazis. Or is the Daily Stormer "alt-lite", too?
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I believe this was her only interaction and was them interviewing her against the context of the Unite the Right concord. You’d have as much chance using this to make her a DS Nazi as you would getting the 14 word episode stick as an alt-right affirmation. Both were bad optics with a Justin Vacula / AvFM vibe. She has since accepted her “if they want to listen I’ll talk to them” flexibility was dumb as it opened her to attack.

It was also the peak of her flirtation with broader identitarianism before stepping back in January and then re-emerging Canadian centric.


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If she did the Roman salute she disavows in the Podcast, I’d put her in the same basket (or worse even) as the Red Ice crowd.

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Here is Faith giving a rip roaring speech in front of a crowd of 4 enthusiastic rubes. She has a refreshing new idea to make Toronto great again by
chasing away all those dirty immigrants.
I didn't listen all the way to the end, but I'm guessing she wants to build a wall and make upstate New York pay for it.

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A well attended room during her visit to the ‘old and bolds’. I’m reassured she is consistent in platform.

Goldy has demonstrated more vigour and spirit than your typical ‘concerned citizen’. Even if it opens her up to criticism and the prospect of failure.

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Brive1987 wrote: A well attended room during her visit to the ‘old and bolds’. I’m reassured she is consistent in platform.

Goldy has demonstrated more vigour and spirit than your typical ‘concerned citizen’. Even if it opens her up to criticism and the prospect of failure.

:clap:
She also has demonstrated as much or more vigor and spirit when she when she rubs shoulders with neo nazis and a few months later canvasses and speaks at Black mediterranean churches. All that ass kissing and she can't break 2%, unless you believe the twitter poll that has her a 44%.
You really shouldn't hitch your wagon to a falling star, or as in this case just a low orbiting turd that was deposited on the shores of Lake Ontario.

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Faith Goldy makes an ass of herself on Twitter, a tragedy in two acts:

[tweet][/tweet]


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Move over Faith and Lauren! There is a new nazibimbo in town that not only loves to sneer at libtards but also Packs firepower.
I'm sure that Brive is already madly tweeting sweet nothings to his new love interest.
https://dailystormer.name/based-new-con ... -southern/

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There’s nascent potential there.

“She’s going to eat it”

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Her voice is not radio ready. And there’s the focus on the whole gun thing .....


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Cute. But not as cute as Goldy’s big hearted enthusiasm.


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Brive1987 wrote: Her voice is not radio ready. And there’s the focus on the whole gun thing .....
She might carry, but does she even lift?

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Brive vs Kirb:


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free thoughtpolice wrote: Move over Faith and Lauren! There is a new nazibimbo in town that not only loves to sneer at libtards but also Packs firepower.
I'm sure that Brive is already madly tweeting sweet nothings to his new love interest.
https://dailystormer.name/based-new-con ... -southern/
LOL

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You know, social conservatives are concerned with how well brown people can blend with western culture, but sometimes haven't considered the consequences of appropriating our culture an polluting it! The Irish must be incensed.

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This is the guy that went to Australia with Lauren Southern and was triggered by the Berenstain Bears:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dqn2C3BVsAEHnnk.jpg

Meh. Nothing to see here. Probably alt-lite. :think:

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Oh, and by the way, saying that Communism comes from "Jewish tradition" is downright retarded.

Karl Marx might have been ethnically Jewish, but he based his theories on the experiences on movements which originated from the left-wing side of the French revolution. Indeed the word "communist" to describe the communitarian form of wealth-sharing wasn't first popularized by Marx, but by John Goodwyn Barmby, who used it to describe the experience of the left-wing French revolutionaries, such as Graccho Babeuf.

The left-wing side of the French revolutionaries, as the name "Graccho" which Babeuf chose for himself shows, weren't influenced by "Jewish tradition" as much as from the Ancient Roman tradition of the land redistribution movements.

Other influences on the birth of socialism/communism were from radical Christian groups that had emerged after the English Civil War.

Ideas about communitarian sharing of wealth had been around among Christian sects for a very long time, inspired by the descriptions of early Christian communities in the New Testament.

Ideas about land redistribution (which in agrarian societies means wealth redistribution), direct democracy, communitarian decisions, were present, to different extents, in Greek and Roman traditions (from the Spartan communities to the Athenian democracy, from the Gracchi to the earlier tribunes of the plebs).

Jewish tradition had little, if any, influence on the development of those ideas, mostly because Jews were a highly marginalized social group.

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So it wasn't jews that invented communism, it was the cult of covfefe?

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Apparently Bowers, the Pittsburgh synagogue shooter had made a great deal about the replacement/ white genocide thing.
In the weeks before the shooting, Bowers reportedly made anti-Semitic posts directed at the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society (HIAS)-sponsored National Refugee Shabbat,[49] in which Tree of Life was participating.[50][51][52][53] Among other things, Bowers is reported to have claimed that Jews were aiding members of Central American caravans moving towards the United States border and to have referred to members of those caravans as "invaders".[54] Shortly before the attack, in an apparent reference to immigrants to the United States, Bowers posted on Gab that "HIAS likes to bring invaders in that kill our people. I can't sit by and watch my people get slaughtered. Screw your optics, I'm going in." According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, "the mention of 'optics' references a disagreement that has raged within the white nationalist movement since the Unite the Right rally in 2017 about how best to get their message across to the general public".[55][33][56][57]

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Interestingly, Faith Goldy removed the title for The White Genocide in Canada video.

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free thoughtpolice wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:52 am
So it wasn't jews that invented communism, it was the cult of covfefe?
Milk, two sugars, please.

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free thoughtpolice wrote: Apparently Bowers, the Pittsburgh synagogue shooter had made a great deal about the replacement/ white genocide thing.
Who could have possibly foreseen that aspiring mass murderers might be personally motivated by a propaganda campaign characterizing asylum-seekers as foreign invaders who should be met with lethal force? Certainly not the White House.


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d4m10n wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote: Apparently Bowers, the Pittsburgh synagogue shooter had made a great deal about the replacement/ white genocide thing.
Who could have possibly foreseen that aspiring mass murderers might be personally motivated by a propaganda campaign characterizing asylum-seekers as foreign invaders who should be met with lethal force? Certainly not the White House.

Hmmmm... Trump is probably the most pro-Jewish president in history.... so yeah.... someone shooting up a synagogue is due to actions of the White House. Right. BTW - the shooter disagreed with Trump regarding Jews.... so... I guess you missed this part of the story. Trump derangement syndrome much?

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Ben Shapiro is probably worth listening to regarding this topic.

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free thoughtpolice wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:06 am
Interestingly, Faith Goldy removed the title for The White Genocide in Canada video.
It was a rebel video and I believe they took it down a while back, leaving random mirrors. Which probably didn’t want to be youtubed for wrong words.

If memory serves correct the original title had a question mark and white genocide wasn’t mentioned in the stats heavy demographic aligned content.

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Brive1987 wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:06 am
Interestingly, Faith Goldy removed the title for The White Genocide in Canada video.
It was a rebel video and I believe they took it down a while back, leaving random mirrors. Which probably didn’t want to be youtubed for wrong words.

If memory serves correct the original title had a question mark and white genocide wasn’t mentioned in the stats heavy demographic aligned content.
Didn't you defend her using that title as technically correct kind of sort of because of the UN?
You are aware that Bowers talked about "replacement" and "white genocide" and immediately before he began his murder spree he mentioned that the Jews were behind the thing.
Other than the Jews being behind the organized effort of white replacement thing his arguments sound kind of familiar. Pretty much like all the alt-lite/alt-right youtube crowd. The difference is that they just talked about it and he did something about it. If they actually believe their own crap about being replaced or genocided maybe they should have the guts to act themselves instead of just inciting others to do it. I mean after all, like Bowers they have a moral right to self defense. Right?

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John D wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:31 am
Ben Shapiro is probably worth listening to regarding this topic.
Shapiro criticized Trump for giving a wink and a nod to the alt-tighters but he is tripping all over himself to point out that Trump didn't tell anyone to go aout and shoot Jews so he is totally innocent. He doesnt mention a statement by Trump in March of last year(I posted this earler in the Trump dump).
Donald Trump has suggested that Jewish people might be committing anti-Semitic hate crimes to make himself look bad.

After days in which he refused to comment on a spate of anti-Semitic attacks, Mr Trump broke his silence to repeat an neo-Nazi conspiracy theory that has claimed that the attacks are "false flags". Supporters of that belief – who include leader of the Ku Klux Klan, David Duke – believe that such attacks are being perpetrated by Jewish people in order to undermine the White House.
Well, I guess he didn't order the shootings, but I would think that someone in his position wouldn't be so irresponsible to repeat the goofy conspiracy theories that helps to generate the hate that kooks like Bowers lap up. Pathetic.

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In the interest of fairness, we have goofy right wingers in my general neighborhood too. The Soldiers of Odin showed up to a small city just to the south of here to protest against some homeless types.
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free thoughtpolice wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:06 am
Interestingly, Faith Goldy removed the title for The White Genocide in Canada video.
It was a rebel video and I believe they took it down a while back, leaving random mirrors. Which probably didn’t want to be youtubed for wrong words.

If memory serves correct the original title had a question mark and white genocide wasn’t mentioned in the stats heavy demographic aligned content.
Didn't you defend her using that title as technically correct kind of sort of because of the UN?
You are aware that Bowers talked about "replacement" and "white genocide" and immediately before he began his murder spree he mentioned that the Jews were behind the thing.
Other than the Jews being behind the organized effort of white replacement thing his arguments sound kind of familiar. Pretty much like all the alt-lite/alt-right youtube crowd. The difference is that they just talked about it and he did something about it. If they actually believe their own crap about being replaced or genocided maybe they should have the guts to act themselves instead of just inciting others to do it. I mean after all, like Bowers they have a moral right to self defense. Right?
Policy induced demographic change (keyed to civic nationalism) are uncontroversial facts.

http://i.imgur.com/t4V33rx.jpg

The variables are:
+ do you care (ie do you value common cultural ties as a basis for society)
+ do you believe in a simple Semitic-reptilian conspiracy as the key driver for current changes
+ if you believe in reptilian drivers do you believe you should “go in” and damn the optics?

I’d welcome click-bait which presents the statistical basis for concern which may in turn start a rational conversation.

This board has demonstrated how hard that is to achieve.

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do you care (ie do you value common cultural ties as a basis for society)
Why yes I do but I don't automatically some degree of cultural mixing is a bad thing. Just so you don't misunderstand me, the asshole with the behead those that insult islam is not the type of cultural mixing I believe is acceptable. People migrating from other cultures should be willing to blend into the culture of the host country or not be allowed in. (my opinion)
do you believe in a simple Semitic-reptilian conspiracy as the key driver for current changes
+ if you believe in reptilian drivers do you believe you should “go in” and damn the optics?
I don't believe in a reptilian conspiracy but if there is one it makes sense to try and resist with the necessary force. Don't you?
You have been posting and endorsing youtube assholes that have been either soft pedaling and some times even advancing conspiracies.
For examples, the Shirtless Satanist dude made a video claiming the mail bomb thing was a libtard false flag but thing walked it back a bit in a video made after Sayoc was arrested and said it probably wasn't a false flag, but there still was a chance it could be. The comments still had many if not most saying it as a false flag.
You don't endorse the spreading of goofy conspiracies I'm sure.

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Of course I don’t. I draw out points of interest and laugh at over-reach.

I tend to find I agree in principle with a lot more of what the right says than the left. I support a restrained version of their social POV far more than the civic nationalism that’s actually current policy.

But yes. That support is still just a percentage of the overall conversation.

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free thoughtpolice wrote: Well, I guess he didn't order the shootings, but I would think that someone in his position wouldn't be so irresponsible to repeat the goofy conspiracy theories that helps to generate the hate that kooks like Bowers lap up. Pathetic.
To be fair, Trump was right about that case:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/23/us/j ... reats.html

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Keating wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote: Well, I guess he didn't order the shootings, but I would think that someone in his position wouldn't be so irresponsible to repeat the goofy conspiracy theories that helps to generate the hate that kooks like Bowers lap up. Pathetic.
To be fair, Trump was right about that case:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/23/us/j ... reats.html
Trump's statement didn't refer specifically to that case in his statement as far as I know. Also, would you endorse the idea that anti-semitic attacks are commonly false flags?

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No. They’re usually done by Muslims.

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The timing is right for March last year, which is where I’m drawing the connection.

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Re: National identity overflow thread (inclusive of liberal worldview screeds)

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Chinese taxi driver last night told me that in his homeland the government takes a 5000 yuan deposit from newly weds.

They get it back when they have their second kid. Kinda like the one child policy in reverse.

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Re: National identity overflow thread (inclusive of liberal worldview screeds)

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Lsuoma wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:52 am
So it wasn't jews that invented communism, it was the cult of covfefe?
Milk, two sugars, please.
Flat white and a short black over here please.

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Re: National identity overflow thread (inclusive of liberal worldview screeds)

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KiwiInOz wrote:
Lsuoma wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:52 am
So it wasn't jews that invented communism, it was the cult of covfefe?
Milk, two sugars, please.
Flat white and a short black over here please.
I’d be happy with creamy, sweet and just a hint of lemon.

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Re: National identity overflow thread (inclusive of liberal worldview screeds)

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The staff writer from the New Yorker has spoken.




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