There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one

[katamari Damassi]

is "shitty" and bigoted.

"...When it comes to rejecting someone like me—someone whose appearance, function, and manner are indistinguishable from those of a cisgender woman...

"... when you reject a woman who fully meets your attraction profile ....

"... Instead of expecting a trans woman to literally endanger herself with every potential bigot she dates, all you need do is state your no-trans ‘preference’ up front to every woman you date. End of discussion."

They really are mentally ill to think they can pass. Where have I seen this before?

▪ Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
▪ Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
▪ Requires excessive admiration
▪ Has a very strong sense of entitlement, e.g., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations

But even if that were true, announcing to every woman you're interested that 'I should tell you now that I don't date transwomen' is sure to go over just fine with the 99.7% of your dates who aren't transwomen.

No I will not fuck you. I will not fuck you in a boat. Not behind a moat. Not with a stoat. Not for a groat.

LOL! She only dates men with working penises, which rules out transmen, and that makes her transphobic.

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

Life is short. You don't get to do everything. If you want to have kids that's going to limit your career. If you want your husband to look after the kids that's between you and him. Patriarchy didn't make you give up your job to raise kids. That's a decision you and your husband made together. It's not the government's role to compensate you for something you and hubby should have sorted out between you.

Very true. I'm sure that when Danielle Muscato pops one out from her...her...anyway, when Danielle gives birth these are questions she must consider.

[Shatterface]

There ought to be enough transfolk around by now to satisfy each other's needs.

If transwomen are real women than having a transwoman suck you're transcock ought to validate your identity as a lesbian. What can be more sapphic than two blokes in suspenders sucking each other's cocks? If you need to munch an actual vagina you aren't a lesbian, you are a vagina fetishist.

If you are a straight transwoman then a transman ought to validate your womanhood. What could fit a girlcock better than a mangina? It's like they were made for each other.

[MarcusAu]

[Lsuoma]

Feynman was a shitlord who hung around in strip clubs. He also stood up to some feminists and made them look stupid:

http://www.organizingcreativity.com/201 ... exist-pig/

What a guy!

[AndrewV69]

is "shitty" and bigoted.

"...When it comes to rejecting someone like me—someone whose appearance, function, and manner are indistinguishable from those of a cisgender woman...

"... when you reject a woman who fully meets your attraction profile ....

"... Instead of expecting a trans woman to literally endanger herself with every potential bigot she dates, all you need do is state your no-trans ‘preference’ up front to every woman you date. End of discussion."

They really are mentally ill to think they can pass. Where have I seen this before?

▪ Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
▪ Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
▪ Requires excessive admiration
▪ Has a very strong sense of entitlement, e.g., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations

But even if that were true, announcing to every woman you're interested that 'I should tell you now that I don't date transwomen' is sure to go over just fine with the 99.7% of your dates who aren't transwomen.

No I will not fuck you. I will not fuck you in a boat. Not behind a moat. Not with a stoat. Not for a groat.

That sounds like Elliot Roger, the ground zero incel,"Supreme Gentleman" fuckup who managed to kill more men than women.
(No I am not being sarcastic etc. & whatnot.)

[Shatterface]

That sounds like Elliot Roger, the ground zero incel,"Supreme Gentleman" fuckup who managed to kill more men than women.
(No I am not being sarcastic etc. & whatnot.)

Narcissists. Cluster B's. Seriously, the only way we'll be rid of these fuckers is if we all fake our suicides.

Six billion of us need to leave our clothes on the beach and go into hiding until the narcissists leave the planet in search of other life forms to bug.

[MarcusAu]

I wouldn't know how to fake a Brazilian accent.

[Cnutella]

LOL! She only dates men with working penises, which rules out transmen, and that makes her transphobic.

Frankly I'm startled to see that rarest of rarities, a transwoman with an attraction to heterosexual men. Aside from Blaire W, every transwoman I read about seems to identify as a lesbian.

Paging Doctor Blanchard... Dr Blanchard to the... Oh, that's right, he got run out of town on a she-rail.

[Shatterface]

I see my role in life as an educator. Because you just gots to know.

How to Have Lesbian Sex With a Trans Woman

Some lesbian, bisexual and queer women have penises. Trans women come all sorts of ways, and some of us haven’t had surgery yet or don’t want to. Also some trans women are queer! The conversation about trans lesbian sex often focuses on anal, or on using the non-trans partner’s genitals — but that’s not all there is. Trans lesbians and their partners can have sex in so many fun ways that do involve their penis and testicles, but don’t necessarily trigger dysphoria. There’s a lot of fun you can have, and while sex between someone with a penis and someone with a vagina is the norm of what we’re presented in society, not many of those tips deal with the fact that maybe one of those people is a woman. So I’m here to help you have the best girl-on-girl sex you’ve ever had as or with a trans woman.

These tips focus on sex with hands and mouths, since personally PIV sex is much harder on my dysphoria. And I know that not all trans women have penises, and that queer women can have sex with people with penises who aren’t trans women, but here I’ll be referring to women (trans or cis) having non-PIV sex with a trans women with a penis.

Figure out what you want.

The first step in great trans lesbian sex is actually figuring out what you like yourself. If you want to tell your partner what words and actions you want, you need to know them first, you know? Reading erotica or watching trans porn (I’d recommend sticking to feminist porn, like the Crash Pad Series, and avoiding trans porn made by cis men) can help you figure out what you find sexy about your body, and what you want to do with that body. It can also help you figure out what language you like.

Try different ways of masturbating. Instead of a “jerking” motion, explore different parts of your genitals. Whether or not “traditional” masturbation causes you dysphoria, there are so many ways to feel yourself. Try using a vibrator or removable shower head. You can also use your fingers to explore your perineum and testicles. Try different pressures, speeds and intensities on different points and see what feels good.

By exploring with yourself, you might learn that maybe you like dirty talk; maybe the idea of your girlfriend going down on you seems really great; maybe you love toys, maybe it’s something else! The key is to get in touch with yourself to figure out what you want. And remember, it’s okay to think you like something and change your mind.

Talk about what you want.

Just like with any kind of sex, communication is key. Start by talking about what words you want to use for your genitals — some words might turn you or your partner on, others might cause dysphoria, and others might just do nothing for you. I know t-girls who use words like penis, clit, girldick, sexy bits, lady parts and a lot of others. Instead of saying “blow job,” try talking about “going down” or “eating out.” Explore what feels sexy and good to you, and then communicate that to your partners. And if you aren’t totally sure what words a partner uses, ask!

Next, talk about safer sex. Trans women who haven’t had surgery have a chance of getting their partners pregnant, so keep that in mind. And regardless of pregnancy-related protection, if you aren’t fluid bonded with your partner, wear a condom, and use a dental dam for any oral on anyone’s anus or vulva.

Then, talk about what you actually want to do. Some techniques might work better for you than others, some might not work at all, and the only way for your partner to know is if you tell her. Be specific; it’s okay and hot to show her, too. It’s also okay to not be sure about what you like or what you’re into, and to want to explore together. If that’s the case, go slow, check in every step of the way, and remember that it’s okay to ask each other questions, try things out together, and figure out what ways of having sex together feel good to both of you.

Think about types of touch.

In terms of tissue structure and sensitivity, penises are basically just like clits, but bigger.

I'll repeat that last bit.

In terms of tissue structure and sensitivity, penises are basically just like clits, but bigger. This means that a lot of the types of touch that would feel good to a clit might feel good to a penis — and those same types of touch can help avoid triggering dysphoria.

The default model of pleasuring a penis involves an up-and-down motion, whether with hands or a mouth or other types of penetration. But there are lots of things to try beyond that! We’ll get to those in a second.

The default model of pleasuring a penis also assumes that the penis is hard. Many trans women on hormones don’t get as hard as they did before hormones, or don’t get hard at all. But sex is so much more than a hard penis, and soft penises are sexy. You can play with them in all the same ways you would with a hard penis, but think more about specific erogenous zones and finding the sensitive spots, and remember that touch can feel deeper (because there isn’t a lot of blood-filled tissue in the way).

Use your hands.

If you’re going to have handsex, get out some lube. Water- and silicone-based lubes work great, as does coconut oil. A non-irritating lotion will work in a pinch, but since it’s not designed for handsex, you’ll probably have to reapply. (If safer sex is a concern, stick to water- or silicone-based lube.)

If your partner is a trans woman, one way to start is to cup her whole penis and scrotum in your hand and massage them like you would a vulva. If she’s soft, try curving her shaft towards her belly and cupping her that way, holding her testicles and penis so that the penis is pointing up and the sensitive underside is exposed for your lubey fingers to explore. Or cup her testicles and use your thumb to massage the head.

The tip of the penis is one more sensitive area, especially at the point where the tip meets the shaft. Grip the shaft of the penis and using your thumb or thumb and a finger to play with the head. Try making an “o” with thumb and ring finger, and use small, firm motions on the tip. Consistent pressure, especially on the tip, is key. If the penis has a foreskin, a partner can stick her finger between the foreskin and penis. (If there’s no foreskin, be extra sure to use enough lube.) Also pay attention to the base — it has a lot of nerve endings, and pinching it, pressing on it or massaging it can create some wonderful sensations. Like with oral sex, use pressure that’s harder than you think it should be. And again, communicate! Ask your partner what she’s feeling and what types of touches she’s into. And if you want to be squeezed harder or gentler, let your partner know, and if they’re doing a great job, let them know even more.

Squeezing and pulling on the testicles can also produce some really wonderful sensations, and the same goes for pressing on the perineum. Vibrators can be especially fun on the perineum and testicles. Continuing to treat trans penises like a clit, pressing a vibrator against the base of the penis or underside of the tip is a great way to create a sexy sensation. Generally speaking, stronger vibrators are better.

Use your mouth.

Like with handsex, oral sex on a trans woman’s penis looks different from oral sex on a cis penis. Some similar techniques might work really well for the specific trans woman you’re sleeping with, and if so, that’s great! If not, here are some things that I’ve found helpful. Instead of making head-bobbing motions, try to focus on the erogenous zones with your tongue and suction. The tip of the penis is extremely sensitive, and a good strategy is to spend a lot of time there. Try using your tongue on the underside of the tip. Try moving your tongue in circles or figure eights around the tip. Try putting your mouth around the tip with your tongue cupping the bottom of it. Now suck.

You can also give the base attention. Try pressing your tongue down against it. Try alternating between the base and the tip with a little time spent on other areas and the testicles. Try suction and friction, it’s this resistance that’s going to cause the most pleasure. No matter the type of touch, remember to press harder with your tongue and lips than you think you should. This applies to both the tip and the base and to hard and soft penises. That pressure is a good thing. So is enthusiasm.

Try external prostate stimulation.

External prostate stimulation might be something you aren’t familiar with, but it’s honestly one of my favorite things. The prostate is located inside the groin, pretty much right between the end of the testicles and the anus, and it’s just a ball of nerves that operates a lot like the g-spot. A common way to stimulate it is with anal sex, but you can also press your finger or tongue on the perineum (the space between genitals and the anus) right up through there and apply pressure on the “p-spot” as it’s sometimes called. These orgasms are powerful and long and, for a lot of people, it’s easier to have more of them then other kinds of orgasms. Try starting with one or two fingers and pressing up and in just below the testicles. You’ll probably have to adjust your angle and pressure to find the prostate depending on the person.

The other great thing about external prostate stimulation is the way it fights dysphoria. When my prostate is stimulated this way, I don’t feel like I have a penis anymore. It can produce a sensation of being penetrated, but in the genital area rather than the anus, making a feeling of gender euphoria. The prostate can be in there a bit and behind muscle, so don’t be afraid to push to find it. Small circles and repeated up and down motion, like a massage, work well. Doing this all with a vibrator works even better.

https://www.autostraddle.com/how-to-hav ... 14839/amp/

[SM1957]

This guy openly calls himself fat.

How do you get victim points by simply having a Greggs loyalty card? Surely you need to do more to be a victim of society than listing 'seconds' as your special dietary requirements?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/ ... adjfklsdjf

[rayshul]

He's not even that fat

[Shatterface]

He's not even that fat

He's transfat. Transfats are real fats.

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

https://www.billboard.com/amp/articles/ ... ssion=true
Gibson Guitars goes bankrupt.

[ConcentratedH2O, OM]

I wouldn't know how to fake a Brazilian accent.

You have to have a really close shave before trying.

[Old_ones]

Feynman was a shitlord who hung around in strip clubs. He also stood up to some feminists and made them look stupid:

http://www.organizingcreativity.com/201 ... exist-pig/

What a guy!

I'm surprised he hasn't been burned in effigy yet. How long before Anita Sarkeesian starts a video series called "Tropes vs. Women in Important Scientific Developments of the 20th Century?".

[Old_ones]

https://www.billboard.com/amp/articles/ ... ssion=true
Gibson Guitars goes bankrupt.

Does this mean now is the time to go buy the Les Paul standard I've always wanted?

[free thoughtpolice]

Not only that, but pretty soon patriotic Merkin coke and meth dealers may have to ride foreign motorcycles.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/ca ... 601033002/

[free thoughtpolice]

[Ape+lust]

Peez, who wants us to be certain his youth was marinated in Public Enemy and Dead Kennedys, watches Glover's This is America... and out pops a Mellencamp lyric :lol:

That transition...it hurts so good.

Did it cut like a knife, Peez?

Everybody Wang Chung tonight.

http://archive.is/T28DL

[Lsuoma]

https://www.billboard.com/amp/articles/ ... ssion=true
Gibson Guitars goes bankrupt.

They had problems with being raided over alleged use of illegally imported wood in 2011, and never recovered, IIRC.

Quick search shows this:

[d4m10n]

I see my role in life as an educator. Because you just gots to know.

Whatever gets you off, bro. To each his/her own.

[Brive1987]

Followup to the post that triggered us.

What's interesting is that there is something creepy and unsettling about public education quietly rebasing history to conform with modern day liberal multicultural norms. That in a bubble is unremarkably obvious liberal shittery.

It's also interesting that nobody sane thinks it's ... odd .... an issue. Leaving it to alt-right wing-nuts to take the reasonable affront and leverage it with intent. They give us a nice segue from observable fact to their simplistic conspiratorial theories. Narratives that nonetheless may be a wacky alt-route journey describing an objective outcome: the Po-Mo-ing of historical western culture for all the tired reasons.

It is the old story of the cowardly rational middle ground that allows the essence of the AR to resonate.

:think:

[Ape+lust]

https://www.billboard.com/amp/articles/ ... ssion=true
Gibson Guitars goes bankrupt.

They had problems with being raided over alleged use of illegally imported wood in 2011, and never recovered, IIRC.

Quick search shows this:

In recent years, they decided Gibson would no longer just be a guitar brand, but a high-toned lifestyle badge. To achieve this, they bought a shit ton of properties that had little to do with guitars. Now they're staggering under a debt load they can't service.

Their core business is still doing brilliantly, even though they've made a lot of painful missteps lately (a catalog photo of a Les Paul with a cracked headstock was emblematic of their inattention to quality). The first and perhaps only job of the bankruptcy will be to get rid of nearly everything but Gibson guitars.

It’s a glistening example of a strategy that has driven Juszkiewicz since he bought the company in 1986: to gradually remake Gibson into a lifestyle brand. His methods — rapid expansion, a planned West Hollywood outpost and a reliance on technology — have sometimes been met with skepticism, or even legal challenges, but none of it has deterred Juszkiewicz’s ambitions to, in his words, become a powerhouse on par with Nike.

.....

Juszkiewicz’s grand plan for Gibson goes back to the beginning of his association with the company: to do for music what Nike has done in the world of sports.

The company’s latest business motto, “Play. Record. Listen.,” reflects Juszkiewicz’s aim to plant its flag in all corners of what he often refers to as “the music lifestyle.”

In recent years, Gibson Guitars morphed into Gibson Brands, the parent company of an ever-growing array of instrument makers, recording equipment, playback hardware, studio software and other consumer electronics products.

The company now also has an acoustic-guitar division in Bozeman, Mont., another electric-guitar plant in Memphis, Tenn., and a digital technology R&D facility in Cupertino, Calif.

Juszkiewicz also snapped up the former Tower Records site in West Hollywood with the intention of developing it into a high-profile flagship new-products showroom.

Gibson’s biggest acquisition yet was the 2014 purchase of the Philips audio and home entertainment division of 126-year old Netherlands-based Royal Philips, the consumer electronics firm that, along with Sony, was instrumental in the development of the audiocassette, the compact disc, the DVD and Blu-ray home video formats.

“The first question we get about that is, ‘Why would a guitar company do that?’” Juszkiewicz said. “The fact is, we don’t see ourselves as a guitar company, we see ourselves as a music lifestyle company.”

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/mu ... story.html

[free thoughtpolice]

Ape wrote:

In recent years, they decided Gibson would no longer just be a guitar brand, but a high-toned lifestyle badge. To achieve this, they bought a shit ton of properties that had little to do with guitars. Now they're staggering under a debt load they can't service.

They need to blend guitars with an Alexa type device.
"Lucille, which chord should I play now and may I have consent to bend your string?"

[Keating]

What's interesting is that there is something creepy and unsettling about public education quietly rebasing history to conform with modern day liberal multicultural norms. That in a bubble is unremarkably obvious liberal shittery.

It's also interesting that nobody sane thinks it's ... odd .... an issue. Leaving it to alt-right wing-nuts to take the reasonable affront and leverage it with intent. They give us a nice segue from observable fact to their simplistic conspiratorial theories. Narratives that nonetheless may be a wacky alt-route journey describing an objective outcome: the Po-Mo-ing of historical western culture for all the tired reasons.

It is the old story of the cowardly rational middle ground that allows the essence of the AR to resonate.

:think:

[Ape+lust]

Ape wrote:

In recent years, they decided Gibson would no longer just be a guitar brand, but a high-toned lifestyle badge. To achieve this, they bought a shit ton of properties that had little to do with guitars. Now they're staggering under a debt load they can't service.

They need to blend guitars with an Alexa type device.
"Lucille, which chord should I play now and may I have consent to bend your string?"

It's what the world is waiting for, a "woke" guitar company. Get Brianna Wu on it right away!

The 2018 Muscato model Gibson Lez Paul:

https://imgur.com/xTwwVET.jpg

[MarcusAu]

[Keating]

If it’s on fire, she better piss on it too to avoid a potential bush fire.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

I got a Gibson without a case,
But I can't get that even-tanned look on my face.

[Matt Cavanaugh]

Followup to the post that triggered us.

What's interesting is that there is something creepy and unsettling about public education quietly rebasing history to conform with modern day liberal multicultural norms. That in a bubble is unremarkably obvious liberal shittery.

It's also interesting that nobody sane thinks it's ... odd .... an issue. Leaving it to alt-right wing-nuts to take the reasonable affront and leverage it with intent. They give us a nice segue from observable fact to their simplistic conspiratorial theories. Narratives that nonetheless may be a wacky alt-route journey describing an objective outcome: the Po-Mo-ing of historical western culture for all the tired reasons.

It is the old story of the cowardly rational middle ground that allows the essence of the AR to resonate.

:think:

I'm cool with the African-Polack girl playing Joan of Arc. She's obviously assimilated into French culture by playing the mentally ill girl who led the fight to expel foreigners from France.

The BBC's casting of black actors in historical dramas -- and drawing them into historical cartoons for children -- is just plain sick.

[Lsuoma]

I got a Gibson without a case,
But I can't get that even-tanned look on my face.

Ill-fitting clothes, eh?

[Lsuoma]

If it’s on fire, she better piss on it too to avoid a potential bush fire.

If she gets that wrong, there's a bush fire right there....

[Lsuoma]

Oh.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/777bd71 ... /tenor.gif

[Shatterface]

Followup to the post that triggered us.

What's interesting is that there is something creepy and unsettling about public education quietly rebasing history to conform with modern day liberal multicultural norms. That in a bubble is unremarkably obvious liberal shittery.

It's also interesting that nobody sane thinks it's ... odd .... an issue. Leaving it to alt-right wing-nuts to take the reasonable affront and leverage it with intent. They give us a nice segue from observable fact to their simplistic conspiratorial theories. Narratives that nonetheless may be a wacky alt-route journey describing an objective outcome: the Po-Mo-ing of historical western culture for all the tired reasons.

It is the old story of the cowardly rational middle ground that allows the essence of the AR to resonate.

:think:

I watched The Hollow Crown. Not a single white actor in it. They tried to white-up Ben Whishaw, Loki and Bandersnatch Cummerbund but they didn't fool me. You can still tell by their lips.

[SM1957]

Lots of black people being stabbed in London.

Black Lives Matter UK utter not one word about it.

Strange....

[katamari Damassi]

File this under "So good it has to be fattening:"
So a grad student at Yale sees a black girl sleeping in the dorm's common area-which is not permitted-so she called the cops. REEEEEE! RACISM! COPS KILL BLACK PEOPLE! NEVER CALL THE COPS ON BLACK PEOPLE! WHITE PRIVILEGE!
The girl turned out to be a grad student who was taking a sleep break from a group all night study session.
Keep in mind that New Haven is a shithole and Yale is in a bad neighborhood- I visited my niece there 10 years ago and was afraid for my car-and the woman who called the cops never met this student before.
Well it turns out the woman who called the cops used to write for Adam Lee's blog. Adam has already made a groveling apology, but his horde isn't having it until he nonpersons her and wipes her blog entries from history.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightat ... qus_thread

[katamari Damassi]

Followup to the post that triggered us.

What's interesting is that there is something creepy and unsettling about public education quietly rebasing history to conform with modern day liberal multicultural norms. That in a bubble is unremarkably obvious liberal shittery.

It's also interesting that nobody sane thinks it's ... odd .... an issue. Leaving it to alt-right wing-nuts to take the reasonable affront and leverage it with intent. They give us a nice segue from observable fact to their simplistic conspiratorial theories. Narratives that nonetheless may be a wacky alt-route journey describing an objective outcome: the Po-Mo-ing of historical western culture for all the tired reasons.

It is the old story of the cowardly rational middle ground that allows the essence of the AR to resonate.

:think:

I watched The Hollow Crown. Not a single white actor in it. They tried to white-up Ben Whishaw, Loki and Bandersnatch Cummerbund but they didn't fool me. You can still tell by their lips.

That's okay. We have a popular musical that teaches kids that our founding fathers were all black and Puerto Rican.

[MarcusAu]

I watched The Hollow Crown. Not a single white actor in it. They tried to white-up Ben Whishaw, Loki and Bandersnatch Cummerbund but they didn't fool me. You can still tell by their lips.

Obviously it got you all worked up. You sound frumius.

[feathers]

Eh, there's no text on those pages? Looks more like a notebook to me.

[shoutinghorse]

Followup to the post that triggered us.

What's interesting is that there is something creepy and unsettling about public education quietly rebasing history to conform with modern day liberal multicultural norms. That in a bubble is unremarkably obvious liberal shittery.

It's also interesting that nobody sane thinks it's ... odd .... an issue. Leaving it to alt-right wing-nuts to take the reasonable affront and leverage it with intent. They give us a nice segue from observable fact to their simplistic conspiratorial theories. Narratives that nonetheless may be a wacky alt-route journey describing an objective outcome: the Po-Mo-ing of historical western culture for all the tired reasons.

It is the old story of the cowardly rational middle ground that allows the essence of the AR to resonate.

:think:

I've talked about this nonsense on twitter many a time, bringing up the historical inaccuracies, especially around the hollow crown when it was first shown only to be hit with hundreds of the PC brigade calling me all the usual 'ists, 'ots & 'phobes. It is one of my trigger points to be fair and something that really infuriates me, as I always say to the wankers who defend it "Can't wait to see Kevin Costner cast as Martin Luther King"

Having said that, if you are going to make a video about historical accuracies then don't say "The Doctor is walking through Regency England, in Victorian times" (5:00) :oops:

[KiwiInOz]

Oh.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/777bd71 ... /tenor.gif

Depilation of the Amazonian bush on the Map of Tasmania is apparently a cultural past time in that neck of the woods. They use sugar wax, or somesuch.

[KiwiInOz]

File this under "So good it has to be fattening:"
So a grad student at Yale sees a black girl sleeping in the dorm's common area-which is not permitted-so she called the cops. REEEEEE! RACISM! COPS KILL BLACK PEOPLE! NEVER CALL THE COPS ON BLACK PEOPLE! WHITE PRIVILEGE!
The girl turned out to be a grad student who was taking a sleep break from a group all night study session.
Keep in mind that New Haven is a shithole and Yale is in a bad neighborhood- I visited my niece there 10 years ago and was afraid for my car-and the woman who called the cops never met this student before.
Well it turns out the woman who called the cops used to write for Adam Lee's blog. Adam has already made a groveling apology, but his horde isn't having it until he nonpersons her and wipes her blog entries from history.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightat ... qus_thread

That wouldn't be our Really? stirring the pot there, would it?

[InfraRedBucket]

This guy openly calls himself fat.

How do you get victim points by simply having a Greggs loyalty card? Surely you need to do more to be a victim of society than listing 'seconds' as your special dietary requirements?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/ ... adjfklsdjf

The BBC are on a Fat post binge. Which presumably makes a change from food bingeing.


"Fat" is the new "Queer" . ie a word used pejoratively now carried like a badge of honour.


The secrets of fat sex
Sex coach Athena Mae on how to have more confidence, more climaxes – and get past the ‘Fat Monica’ joke
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/ ... adjfklsdjf



I’m that fat man at the gym
I used to have panic attacks but now when I see people mocking me it just fuels me
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/ ... adjfklsdjf

"Too Fat for Love"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p ... t-for-love

[ThreeFlangedJavis]

Oh.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/777bd71 ... /tenor.gif

Depilation of the Amazonian bush on the Map of Tasmania is apparently a cultural past time in that neck of the woods. They use sugar wax, or somesuch.

Grammar fascist is triggered. Pastime, not past time. An infuriatingly ubiquitous error.

[Shatterface]

It's a past time if they have stopped doing it.

Personally I'm delighted the Pit has embraced Joycean wordplay. We are as much part of the Literary and Artistic Dark Web as we are of the IDW.

[ThreeFlangedJavis]

Aneris has been banging on about pipe-laying at WEIT again.

Problem Two: Severely Underestimating the Influence of the Far Right. You know this when you dive into the trench, follow people, subscribe to channels and get a feel for what is going on. Dave Rubin is an especially weak link. He promoted Alt Right characters, or recommended people (like Carl Benjamin and Lauren Southern) who are part of Faschist YouTube. The former is also listed on the IDW site. If you want to check this, search for identitarian movement, chats with Jared Taylor and Richard Spencer, promoting Front National and that should keep you going (there is much more).

Apparently if you argue with alt-right characters on youtube that makes you a fascist. Aneris is quite fond of the old guilt by association ploy.

[Brive1987]

S/h/it needs to remember the problem these “fascists” are addressing and the pipes it’s laying in its own leftist crusade.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam ... width=1400

[shoutinghorse]

The Eurovision song contest comes round again tonight and I think I've spotted the obvious winner.

Ladies & Gentlemen, I give you those great Europeans. .. Israel :dance:

[Kirbmarc]

Aneris has been banging on about pipe-laying at WEIT again.

Problem Two: Severely Underestimating the Influence of the Far Right. You know this when you dive into the trench, follow people, subscribe to channels and get a feel for what is going on. Dave Rubin is an especially weak link. He promoted Alt Right characters, or recommended people (like Carl Benjamin and Lauren Southern) who are part of Faschist YouTube. The former is also listed on the IDW site. If you want to check this, search for identitarian movement, chats with Jared Taylor and Richard Spencer, promoting Front National and that should keep you going (there is much more).

Apparently if you argue with alt-right characters on youtube that makes you a fascist. Aneris is quite fond of the old guilt by association ploy.

The problem isn't about guilt by association, or about who is fascist and who isn't (I think that the label "fascist" is obsolete and too vague to mean anything concrete right now), it's about promoting identitarian, ethno-centric ideas, whether willingly or unwittingly. Sargon HAS chatted rather amiably with Jared Taylor, who is one the people behind the "American Renaissance" website and argues that people should encouraged to be separated according to their ethnicity:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLUZ4uJlkvQ

Sargon also HAS supported the Front National:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPFtwMcjzRs

As for Lauren Southern I think I've already written too much about her here. :bjarte:

I'm not saying that Sargon or Southern are goose-stepping Nazis who planning genocides . However the identitarian, ethnic-based ideas that they promote (willingly or not) are incredibly bad. They're legitimizing divisions along ethnic lines, they're claiming that immigration isn't just a source of problems to deal with but the Twilight of the West, and they're treating segregationists like Taylor and far-right conspiracy theorists like Pettibone with kid gloves, basically agreeing with them on most of their messages, even if they challenge them (weakly) at times.

There's definitely been a shift to the far-right in Sargon's videos. He used to argue in favor of Kyle Kulinski and the Justice Democrats, he used to defend liberal democratic principles with whatever research he could muster up about Hume or Kant. Now he's nodding along with people who think that white ethno-states are the way of the future. And no, they're not Brive-types who are simply about a vaguely "cultural" projects.

Jared Taylor is rather explicit that his ethno-state project is about race, about how white people are much different from, and much better off without, non-white people. He claims that he simply wants "peaceful freedom of association", i.e. some kind of "voluntary" ethno-state, which is bad enough in terms of promoting racial divisions, but is also highly impractical. If those ideas were implemented they'd resemble more the Steersman-esque "population transfers" than a happy, peaceful movement of people wherever they prefer to live :bjarte:

There's a continuum of identitarian ideas, from culture to ethnicity to race, without any "big rifts", among the online Alt-Right/Far-Right. Not everyone is on the same level, and not all people are exactly supporting the same things, but the general ideas that:

a) immigration of non-white people is an existential threat to Europe (the Doom/Twilight of the West, the "Great Replacement", white genocide, etc.)

b) non-whites cannot integrate in Europe or other "white countries", or at least not in a meaningful way beyond surface level

c) what matters the most, and what must be defended, is your identity (cultural, ethnic, racial, religious), not the good functioning of society, or liberal democratic principles

are the ideological core of the New Far Right/Alt-Right/Generation Identity phenomenon, which might share some ideas with the old fascism, but is actually a new, 21st century phenomenon, made popular by the lack of a rational discussion of some issues with immigration, by the Regressive Left shielding islam from any criticism, in general by the lack of a more reasonable and not identitarian discussion of the matter.

Identitarian ideas are inherently divisive. We've seen it happen in islam, where the identitarian islamic movement is promoting not just a defense of the "old traditions" like head coverings, stoning of the adulterers, killing non-believers, etc. etc. but ALSO the "muslim identity" over any other sort of allegiance or consideration. Sectarianism and tribalism are heavily encouraged by those who are "proudly Muslims and Muslims before being anything else" or identify with the "Ummah".

While of course secularization has tamed the excesses of Christianity, the idea of a "western identity" has remained, and it remains fraught with problems, from heavily encouraging tribalism to having people put their ethnicity before and above other considerations, to possibly indirectly inciting discrimination and potentially even violence against those who are excluded from the "identity".

We on the Pit have rightly mocked the excesses of the SocJus as being sectarian, divisive, based only or mostly on one's identity and not on principles (the infamous "It's OK When We Do It" meme), being more emotional rather than rational in their approach to politics, and promoting marginalization and isolation (Male Tears, WhatAboutTehMenz, Die Cis Scum, etc.)

Well, the New Right/Identitarians are EVEN MORE divisive, sectarian, and based on identity rather than principles. I'm still baffled as to why so many people here seem to think that they're No Big Deal, that they're somehow better than the SocJus for some reason...

[Kirbmarc]

S/h/it needs to remember the problem these “fascists” are addressing and the pipes it’s laying in its own leftist crusade.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam ... width=1400

The fact that the SocJus exists doesn't excuse the Alt-Right. Also to say that Aneris doesn't remember the problems of the SocJus is an utter lie. Aneris has argued for YEARS against the SocJus, writing posts the size of a small elephant, and while she/he might have phrased it badly with the "pipes for Nazis" thing, she/he HAS provided evidence that there's a continuum of identitarian, far-right(ish) ideas in the Alt-Right circles, which spilled over the "skeptics" like Sargon.

The SocJus is full of shit, divisive, poisonous to rational discussion, denialist of any problem which runs against its "Smash Patriarchy" narrative and often either boringly inane or outrageously stupid in its conclusions. But while this might EXPLAIN the appeal of the Alt-Right, it doesn't EXCUSE it.

The SocJus people have accused and accuse everyone and their dog (Pinker, Harris, Coyne, even Bernie Sanders) of being "white supremacists". They're also anti-science and throw online temper tantrums whenever someone strays from their narrative that Everything is the Fault of White Hetero Cis Males.

But this doesn't mean we have to listen to the people who want white ethno-states, Christian identity, or other far-right ideas.

The SocJus also classifies people according to their social groups and ONLY according to their social groups, which is moronic and counterproductive.

But the alt-right does the same thing in this respect, only with an inverted polarity.

Also if every time we criticize the Alt-Right we have to say "but the SocJus", this is basically the same kind of "whataboutery" that comes into play whenever anyone criticizes Trump. "But Clinton" "But Obama" "But the DNC"....

[Guest_a1118c47]

Another good talk by Heather MacDonald.

"Following a comment from an audience member that suggested women who wear inappropriate bathing suits (bikinis) share the fault with the male counterpart should they be raped, she said, “What you just did would be referred to as slut shaming.”

“Good for you,” she continued, “because sluts should be shamed as far as I am concerned.”

She made other comments such as, “The kinds of characteristics that can get you stoned to death in other parts of the world are now celebrated on American college campuses.”"

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: The absolute state of the Pit. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

Just watching, posting or discussing Sargon and the like does not mean one endorses their ideas, any more than posting links to SocJus crap indicates agreement with theirs. Further, there are many subjects I am likely to be in agreement on with people I might otherwise find reprehensible. You cannot engage effectively with people's positions if you don't understand their positions, or worse, tar them with a broad brush and dismiss them without thinking.

[Guest_a1118c47]

Asians and "ethnic whites" provide more to Australia and commit less crime compared to the (((Anglo majority))). The statistics are rather easy to find and those are the ones that matter, r-right?

It's quite clear that Anglos NEED to be replaced to make Australia a better country and if you're against it, you're against meritocracy, the enlightenment and so on and pretty much just arguing for an ethnostate. That is unarguable. :D

[Guest_a1118c47]

Aneris has been banging on about pipe-laying at WEIT again.

Problem Two: Severely Underestimating the Influence of the Far Right. You know this when you dive into the trench, follow people, subscribe to channels and get a feel for what is going on. Dave Rubin is an especially weak link. He promoted Alt Right characters, or recommended people (like Carl Benjamin and Lauren Southern) who are part of Faschist YouTube. The former is also listed on the IDW site. If you want to check this, search for identitarian movement, chats with Jared Taylor and Richard Spencer, promoting Front National and that should keep you going (there is much more).

Apparently if you argue with alt-right characters on youtube that makes you a fascist. Aneris is quite fond of the old guilt by association ploy.

The cuck Kirby who is against our rightful white identity politics who are actually good [though in fairness to promoter of liberalistism Sargon, he has convincingly argued that most of those people "act like niggers (not good white people)"] as opposted to the SocJus™ identity politics already answered this but I will add that going on Rubin is free promotion, not having your ideas challenged in some way, unless you're the far-leftist SocJus anti-daddy Frum.

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

It seems that people need to "distance" themselves from undesirables, which includes not talking to or engaging them. If you actually want to make a difference, that is the very worst thing you can do. That's how the Democrats lost big. Changing minds, especially among the undecided and wavering means steelmanning your opponent, not panicking about laying pipes. It means acknowledging where they're right and pointing out where they're wrong. It means examining controversial positions.

I don't buy the idea that having a friendly exchange with somebody equals endorsement of their ideas. I can have breakfast in my hometown amongst rednecks that think Trump is a liberal and then have dinner amongst Seattle ultra-liberals. I don't endorse either. But ultimately we either have to get along or we're likely to head into an uncomfortable conflict.

[CaptainFluffyBunny]

Aneris has been banging on about pipe-laying at WEIT again.

Problem Two: Severely Underestimating the Influence of the Far Right. You know this when you dive into the trench, follow people, subscribe to channels and get a feel for what is going on. Dave Rubin is an especially weak link. He promoted Alt Right characters, or recommended people (like Carl Benjamin and Lauren Southern) who are part of Faschist YouTube. The former is also listed on the IDW site. If you want to check this, search for identitarian movement, chats with Jared Taylor and Richard Spencer, promoting Front National and that should keep you going (there is much more).

Apparently if you argue with alt-right characters on youtube that makes you a fascist. Aneris is quite fond of the old guilt by association ploy.

The cuck Kirby who is against our rightful white identity politics who are actually good [though in fairness to promoter of liberalistism Sargon, he has convincingly argued that most of those people "act like niggers (not good white people)"] as opposted to the SocJus™ identity politics already answered this but I will add that going on Rubin is free promotion, not having your ideas challenged in some way, unless you're the far-leftist SocJus anti-daddy Frum.

One can acknowledge that Europe and Australia have a crisis without resorting to white identitarian bullshit. Brive seems to think that one must be of a certain race and ethnicity to assimilate. I disagree strongly. But there is no doubt that for whatever reason, large populations in Europe are not assimilating, and that is a huge problem. That has to be addressed, but not by vilifying anybody.

Most every pitter has ended up here because we tried to engage with the SocJus crowd, often politely at first. They won't debate, they run screaming. They won't really examine other ideas, they strawman and outright lies and misrepresent. That isn't behavior to emulate.

[Kirbmarc]

It seems that people need to "distance" themselves from undesirables, which includes not talking to or engaging them. If you actually want to make a difference, that is the very worst thing you can do. That's how the Democrats lost big. Changing minds, especially among the undecided and wavering means steelmanning your opponent, not panicking about laying pipes. It means acknowledging where they're right and pointing out where they're wrong. It means examining controversial positions.

I don't buy the idea that having a friendly exchange with somebody equals endorsement of their ideas. I can have breakfast in my hometown amongst rednecks that think Trump is a liberal and then have dinner amongst Seattle ultra-liberals. I don't endorse either. But ultimately we either have to get along or we're likely to head into an uncomfortable conflict.

The problem isn't about not talking with people, or not examining controversial positions. I've argued A LOT with Brive, and I've conceded when he had a point (immigration needs rules, you need to avoid ghettoization-silos, you need some kind of filter and can't let in everyone, and not at the same pace) many times, although to be fair those were positions I already argued for.

The problem is that some people aren't simply disagreeing about tax reforms or immigration politics or cultural issues. They're calling for action, and for a discriminatory action. I'm not saying you shouldn't argue with them, but you CANNOT simply nod along and agree with everything they say and still call yourself a supporter of liberal democracy.

When Jared Taylor says that segregation is actually good, you should stop him and remind him of the damages of apartheid, of segregation in the US, of why "separate but equal" is never actually equal, of the dangers of social echo chambers, etc. You can be as polite and open as you want, but you MUST take those conversations away from hypotheticals and into the realm of historic reality. Otherwise you're not arguing, you're supporting, you're nodding along. Please, watch the Sargon video with Taylor.

Arguing relentlessly and without compromises is what people here have done with Vicky and GuruGeorge when they pushed for Holocaust denialism. We didn't ban them, we didn't threaten their lives or livelihoods, but we didn't give their ideas a pass, either.

People HAVE heavily challenged creationists, woo-meister, SocJus thinkers and other frauds here, without kid gloves, without holding back. I don't see why suddenly we have to nod along with everything that the "white separatists" argue for, or treat their ideas with any kind of special respect.

[Kirbmarc]

Aneris has been banging on about pipe-laying at WEIT again.

Problem Two: Severely Underestimating the Influence of the Far Right. You know this when you dive into the trench, follow people, subscribe to channels and get a feel for what is going on. Dave Rubin is an especially weak link. He promoted Alt Right characters, or recommended people (like Carl Benjamin and Lauren Southern) who are part of Faschist YouTube. The former is also listed on the IDW site. If you want to check this, search for identitarian movement, chats with Jared Taylor and Richard Spencer, promoting Front National and that should keep you going (there is much more).

Apparently if you argue with alt-right characters on youtube that makes you a fascist. Aneris is quite fond of the old guilt by association ploy.

The cuck Kirby who is against our rightful white identity politics who are actually good [though in fairness to promoter of liberalistism Sargon, he has convincingly argued that most of those people "act like niggers (not good white people)"] as opposted to the SocJus™ identity politics already answered this but I will add that going on Rubin is free promotion, not having your ideas challenged in some way, unless you're the far-leftist SocJus anti-daddy Frum.

One can acknowledge that Europe and Australia have a crisis without resorting to white identitarian bullshit. Brive seems to think that one must be of a certain race and ethnicity to assimilate. I disagree strongly. But there is no doubt that for whatever reason, large populations in Europe are not assimilating, and that is a huge problem. That has to be addressed, but not by vilifying anybody.

Most every pitter has ended up here because we tried to engage with the SocJus crowd, often politely at first. They won't debate, they run screaming. They won't really examine other ideas, they strawman and outright lies and misrepresent. That isn't behavior to emulate.

Nobody is pushing for that, though.

I've debated with Brive for quite a lot, with some sarcasm and snide remarks on both sides, but we're big boys, we don't have our precious feelings damaged. I haven't ran away or strawmanned him. I've acknowledged that some of his ideas weren't completely bad, while I relentlessly argued against the ethno-identitarian bits.

The problem is that people (not just here, but in the entire "skeptic" movement) seem to gloss over, to accept, to never challenge some assumptions, even some which have a really bad history of causing damage when applied to society (like the focus on ethnicity as the ultimate decider of morality and of group affiliation).

[Matt Cavanaugh]

I got a Gibson without a case,
But I can't get that even-tanned look on my face.

Ill-fitting clothes, eh?

Voice too loud.