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Also, how far back are we going with this trad life thing? Longships and thralls?
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I saw that and was pissed off that I couldn't comment. As someone who is big into multicultural stuff, Chas probably isn't racist. I suspect that he was making a joke along the lines of "most Mancunians are pallid white because they don't get much sun".Brive1987 wrote: ↑
This racially charged lady would like to re-engineer royalty to ensure it conforms to her vision.
Trying to imagine the reverse if my mother was not from Guyana but say Chilham and I was standing in the Main Street of Georgetown trying to blend.
Anyway. She has dibs on the UK because of colonialism.
It’s always important to sort out team colours before the game starts in earnest.I have a message for Prince Charles. Your Royal Highness, you asked me: “Where are you from?” To adapt a phrase from the late Ambalavaner Sivanandan: I am here because you were there.
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Hell I'm actually fine with people wanting to pursue the #TradLife. Go ahead, live your life according to your preferences. Celebrate it, too. More power to you.
What I'm less fine with is that many in #TradLife movement aren't simply saying "I like this way of life" but actively blaming various social ills on anything they deem to be "degenerate" or promiscuous, especially if in doing so they promote moral panics and reactionary solutions, not unlike our Woke "friends", or the muslim conservatives. Kind of like Jordy-boy Peterson tweeting that the reason for the sexual harassment "epidemic" is that men and women aren't segregated by sex at work. Many RadFem would approve. :bjarte:
What's interesting is that many islamic leaders are using the same arguments ("men have become degenerate beasts thanks to promiscuity, porn, modernity!") to promote the hijabs, or gender segregation, or not letting women drive, etc. etc.
What I'm less fine with is that many in #TradLife movement aren't simply saying "I like this way of life" but actively blaming various social ills on anything they deem to be "degenerate" or promiscuous, especially if in doing so they promote moral panics and reactionary solutions, not unlike our Woke "friends", or the muslim conservatives. Kind of like Jordy-boy Peterson tweeting that the reason for the sexual harassment "epidemic" is that men and women aren't segregated by sex at work. Many RadFem would approve. :bjarte:
What's interesting is that many islamic leaders are using the same arguments ("men have become degenerate beasts thanks to promiscuity, porn, modernity!") to promote the hijabs, or gender segregation, or not letting women drive, etc. etc.
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SocJus: "Men are degenerate beasts, teach them not to rape by targeting anything even remotely sexual, like women with big boobs in video games, or paintings of naked women, or porn, or grid girls, or cheerleaders! If we make the world sexless, then we'll stop rape and sexual harassment!"
TradLife: "Modern men and women are degenerate beasts, teach them not to be degenerate by segregating workplaces by sex, by limiting access to porn, to violent video games, to promiscuous sex! If we make the world into a place without temptation, then we'll stop cheating and the break up of families!"
Islam: "Kaffir men and women are degenerate beasts, teach them to be muslims by keeping women veiled, in the house, away from men, by censoring all nudity, practicing genital mutilation, and stoning adulterers! If we make the world into a place without haraam things, then we'll stop degenerate kaffirs and turn it into a muslim utopia!"
Me: "You know what, I kind of like modernity, and I think that women can choose to be grid girls, or cheerleaders, or porn stars, that men and women can work together, and have promiscuous sex, or not, and society can still survive without people becoming degenerate beasts. Also there's no "rape epidemic", and most people already understand that having non-consensual sex is morally appalling. It's better to teach people how to recognize the signs of a controlling, abusing personality, or to drink responsibly, or to have safe sex, or how to better communicate intentions with one another, than to insist with the brainwashing or curtailing of liberties. Just a thought".
SocJus: "MAAAN! Mansplainer! Sexist! Rape apologist!" TradLife: "Degenerate scum! SJW! Oppressive ideologue! Cultural Marxist!" Islam: "Apostate! Serf of the Evil Jews! You want to kill muslims!"
Me:
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TradLife: "Modern men and women are degenerate beasts, teach them not to be degenerate by segregating workplaces by sex, by limiting access to porn, to violent video games, to promiscuous sex! If we make the world into a place without temptation, then we'll stop cheating and the break up of families!"
Islam: "Kaffir men and women are degenerate beasts, teach them to be muslims by keeping women veiled, in the house, away from men, by censoring all nudity, practicing genital mutilation, and stoning adulterers! If we make the world into a place without haraam things, then we'll stop degenerate kaffirs and turn it into a muslim utopia!"
Me: "You know what, I kind of like modernity, and I think that women can choose to be grid girls, or cheerleaders, or porn stars, that men and women can work together, and have promiscuous sex, or not, and society can still survive without people becoming degenerate beasts. Also there's no "rape epidemic", and most people already understand that having non-consensual sex is morally appalling. It's better to teach people how to recognize the signs of a controlling, abusing personality, or to drink responsibly, or to have safe sex, or how to better communicate intentions with one another, than to insist with the brainwashing or curtailing of liberties. Just a thought".
SocJus: "MAAAN! Mansplainer! Sexist! Rape apologist!" TradLife: "Degenerate scum! SJW! Oppressive ideologue! Cultural Marxist!" Islam: "Apostate! Serf of the Evil Jews! You want to kill muslims!"
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You miss nuance. I’ve written off the left. I’m advocating what might be considered a centre position on the right. A spectrum the libtards can’t acknowledge.Kirbmarc wrote: ↑I'm fine with libertarian and even conservative middle-road positions. I'm fine with rational immigration restrictions. I simply don't think that an explicit focus on ethnicity as a form of identity politics is a middle road position.
But please, carry on thinking I'm the extremist ideologue between us two.
As for you, you are clearly in the middle of the left-liberal side of the coin. That’s why we are oil and water.
You also have clear bias aligned with your ideology.
1. equating trad-west family values with the burqa means you have failed the basic litmus test
2. this is reinforced by your strawmans and self serving singular definitions of key terms
Absurdly, your support for Switzerland is indisputably support for state based ethnic identitarianism. That’s why you blow my mind.
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Read that again, but slowly.
Only if you think that Switzerland is an ethno-state. Which it's not, no matter how you try to prove it by counting how many non-white people live there. It's a state with strong immigration restrictions and a high bar for naturalization, but snow-white honkeys get rejected too, if they don't integrate themselves into the community, and non-white people who integrate get to stay.Absurdly, your support for Switzerland is indisputably support for state based ethnic identitarianism. That’s why you blow my mind.
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I know you're not advocating for genocide, or one drop policies like Tara McCarthy. That said, the political spectrum is a bit more complex when you don't "write off the left". In Germany Angela Merkel is center-right. In the US, Jeb Bush is center-right.
You're alt-right,so far to the right of all of them, at least in terms of positions on immigration. Hell you even think that Sargon is too soft for you, and he's alt-lite.
In the US I'd be on the far-left. In Switzerland, I'm basically a centrist.As for you, you are clearly in the middle of the left-liberal side of the coin. That’s why we are oil and water.
I thought it was clear that it was a joke. I dislike the prescriptive moral outrage of the "wives with a purpose", but it's obvious that they're nowhere near the burqa. They're stuck in the 1950s, not in the middle ages. That's a lot of progress. Still it's funny to me that the alt-right is so anti-islam when some of them share some of its ideas, like the fact that women and men shouldn't work together.You also have clear bias aligned with your ideology.
1. equating trad-west family values with the burqa means you have failed the basic litmus test
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i accept the graduations of the left. I simply see little to no value in any of them.Kirbmarc wrote: ↑Read that again, but slowly.
Only if you think that Switzerland is an ethno-state. Which it's not, no matter how you try to prove it by counting how many non-white people live there. It's a state with strong immigration restrictions and a high bar for naturalization, but snow-white honkeys get rejected too, if they don't integrate themselves into the community, and non-white people who integrate get to stay.Absurdly, your support for Switzerland is indisputably support for state based ethnic identitarianism. That’s why you blow my mind.
"its not" is not an argument when we have swiss sites breaking ethnicity down to its demonstrable components and then asserting their primacy in migration testing. You are blind because you read "ethnic" but process it as "race".
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CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑ Also, how far back are we going with this trad life thing? Longships and thralls?
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OK, I'm kind of the same mind about the alt-right. I accept the graduations between you and Steersman, for example. I just don't think you're INCREDIBLY different.
If you were advocating for an ethnicity distinguished from race, how comes that you see Portuguese immigrants as an acceptable part of the "ethno-state", but not Chinese immigrants, at least not above certain numbers?"its not" is not an argument when we have swiss sites breaking ethnicity down to its demonstrable components and then asserting their primacy in migration testing. You are blind because you read "ethnic" but process it as "race".
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The way to solve the Kirb vs Brive thing once and for all:
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Uma Thurman got there first with "Fox Force Five" !Kirbmarc wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:38 pmIt sounds like a crazy rumor, but apparently she was arrested, so there might be something to this. Weird cults (like Scientology) often recruit actors, after all. It's still pretty insane that a sex cult marketed itself as a "female force against evil". But I guess that this is the extreme, high-class, Hollywood glamour version of the "male feminists" who turn out to be creeps.
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More Noel Plum re PZ.
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So it finally hit the MSM. Only took them forever and a day because I have been reading about this in one form or the other for years. Just a sec ..Kirbmarc wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:38 pmMore info:
It sounds like a crazy rumor, but apparently she was arrested, so there might be something to this. Weird cults (like Scientology) often recruit actors, after all. It's still pretty insane that a sex cult marketed itself as a "female force against evil". But I guess that this is the extreme, high-class, Hollywood glamour version of the "male feminists" who turn out to be creeps.Frank Parlato is a businessman who was accused by the Bronfman sisters of defrauding them in 2011. He’s gone on to publish information about Nxivm on his blog, The Frank Report, often citing anonymous ex-followers. According to Parlato, Mack helped form the secret sorority, otherwise known as DOS (Dominos Obsequious Sororium, which means Master Over the Slave Women), envisioning “a united group of women branded in the name of Mr. Raniere and Miss Mack—which will be a force for good, and a female force against evil.”
Man this has taken off I see. Google is all over this to the point where I no longer remember where I started reading about this. Anyway, did I mention that some of the women allowed themselves to be branded via a cauterising iron?
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Also the Seagram heiresses Sara and Clare Bronfman were involved the link is to a Vanity Fair article back in 2010.
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As Iconoclast said in his latest video "London isn't a British city any more but just a city in Britain" . Even the Cockney accent has all but disappeared and been replaced by this Jafaican/East Asian/Mockney hybrid.
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I guess. Not too many like Jim Jones and Heaven's Gate cults.Kirbmarc wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:42 pmYou're joking, but this is what many are already arguing on twitter. Never mind that if the allegations are true she apparently branded some women and forced them to submit to her as her mistress.free thoughtpolice wrote: ↑Because she is a woman she is automatically innocent and like Oggie was abused into becoming an abuser. :ugeek:Kirbmarc wrote: ↑ Actress Allison Mack Arrested in Connection to Nxivm Sex Cult Case
WTF?
Again, WTF?Actress Allison Mack faces trafficking and forced labor charges for allegedly providing slaves to purported sex cult leader Keith Raniere, federal prosecutors said Friday.
Mack, best known for the TV show "Smallville," was arrested by the FBI in Brooklyn. According to prosecutors, the 35-year-old actor forced women to have sex with Raniere under threat of having damaging information about them released. FBI officials described it as an "inconceivable crime."
This thing seems worse than Weinstein. And it's a female actress who was among those calling the shots. Patriarchal brainwashing, I guess. Or maybe Hollywood is just full of rich pervs?
Still this is pretty crazy. Cults are insane, but usually not THIS insane.
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One year ago: this is what Brive thought about Lauren Southern
What happened? What made you change your mind?
What happened? What made you change your mind?
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Did "Jordy-boy" Tweet that? It is at odds with everything, and that's quite a lot, that I have seen him say on the subject. His position is quite clearly a lot more considered than that. He is not advocating for segregation,non-segregation, make-up or lack thereof or any particular rules. He is saying that we need to acknowledge the sexual nature of human beings and the way that they present themselves in the work environment and work toward establishing the rules from a more factual basis than at present. But if you want to strawman him on the basis of one tweet, go ahead.Kirbmarc wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:45 pmKind of like Jordy-boy Peterson tweeting that the reason for the sexual harassment "epidemic" is that men and women aren't segregated by sex at work. Many RadFem would approve. :bjarte:
What's interesting is that many islamic leaders are using the same arguments ("men have become degenerate beasts thanks to promiscuity, porn, modernity!") to promote the hijabs, or gender segregation, or not letting women drive, etc. etc.
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Back then we were all so young and wild and free.Kirbmarc wrote: ↑ One year ago: this is what Brive thought about Lauren Southern
What happened? What made you change your mind?
What am I saying? As fetishes go, I can think of worse.
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Kirb building a straw man? Say it isn't so.
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Happy Birthday Ma'am
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Rahm Emmanuel:
As mayor of Chicago I'm asking you to join me in telling our young people that ... aww, fuck it.
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Multiculturalism at its finest: school boy in central Berlin taken to hospital after his moslem classmates beat him for being a 'swine-German' and eating pork. (Lulz: the parents embrace[d] multiculturalism and the family is vegetarian.)
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The Berlin cops come to the rescue: "It'd be best if you move to another district."
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Nothing that can't be sorted with a few years of therapyHunt wrote: ↑Back then we were all so young and wild and free.Kirbmarc wrote: ↑ One year ago: this is what Brive thought about Lauren Southern
What happened? What made you change your mind?
What am I saying? As fetishes go, I can think of worse.
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Or he could go with that hottie that Shoutinghorse posted in the pic above.
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Kanye's going to have the pitchfork mob at the doors of one of his many mansions, again! :)
PS Isn't Candace that loon who tried to set up that database of harassers, and had that slanging match with Therin Mayer on Rubin? Lol.
PS Isn't Candace that loon who tried to set up that database of harassers, and had that slanging match with Therin Mayer on Rubin? Lol.
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That was a reasonable starting position predating a more detailed review of the alt right variants.
Reasonable because it still holds true as far as it goes.
I still think that racial based magic-blood is stupid. I put that talk into the idiot basket. I also put any of the nazi aligned alt righters into the same bucket of fools. Similarly the JQ is fundamentally classic conspiracy theory.
Southern’s book remains a junior high effort.
But it’s all a bit more threaded than that.
I hadn’t seen the alt-lite / right split at that point. I also hadn’t thought much about civic/ethnic nationalism. I hadn’t visited Switzerland and Czech. I hadn’t posed the Quo Vadis question here and been disappointed at the liberal response. I hadn’t spent time compiling my own immigration statistics from the ABS. I hadn’t seen the failure of civic nationalism in UK.
In short I hadn’t spent the time thinking about the options and what success could or should look like to have an informed opinion.
You can seek to retain and strengthen the traditional characteristics that uniquely define countries (as well as the loose collective of “western”) without a focus on race and without embracing innate racial superiority. Not only “can” you but, in the face of attacks from liberals and imported cultures, we really “must”.
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Plus boobies.
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I think all bottom of page posts should auto populate to the top of the next page.
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If Prince Charles had some sense and balls (both of which are questionable), he'd reply to her with: 'My apologies, I thought you were from Beijing.'Brive1987 wrote: ↑
This racially charged lady would like to re-engineer royalty to ensure it conforms to her vision.
Trying to imagine the reverse if my mother was not from Guyana but say Chilham and I was standing in the Main Street of Georgetown trying to blend.
Anyway. She has dibs on the UK because of colonialism.
It’s always important to sort out team colours before the game starts in earnest.I have a message for Prince Charles. Your Royal Highness, you asked me: “Where are you from?” To adapt a phrase from the late Ambalavaner Sivanandan: I am here because you were there.
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Has Prince Charles never heard of mass population transfer? Very popular with European governments.Tigzy wrote: ↑If Prince Charles had some sense and balls (both of which are questionable), he'd reply to her with: 'My apologies, I thought you were from Beijing.'Brive1987 wrote: ↑
This racially charged lady would like to re-engineer royalty to ensure it conforms to her vision.
Trying to imagine the reverse if my mother was not from Guyana but say Chilham and I was standing in the Main Street of Georgetown trying to blend.
Anyway. She has dibs on the UK because of colonialism.
It’s always important to sort out team colours before the game starts in earnest.I have a message for Prince Charles. Your Royal Highness, you asked me: “Where are you from?” To adapt a phrase from the late Ambalavaner Sivanandan: I am here because you were there.
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Steele is an American? His Russian intel sources are American?Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:27 pmIOW, an intelligence agent collecting information from individual sources. Spun as a Russian Govt. action by Limbaugh or whatever talk radio nut job our poor, heartbroken Bernie Bro is listening to.
You don't see something questionable in a political campaign funneling foreign intel to our intelligence agencies in hopes of hurting a political opponent?
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I understand that you don't want to focus on race in the same way Richard Spencer or Tara McCarthy do. I understand that you need a unifying sets of values to integrate different populations living in the same country.Brive1987 wrote: ↑You can seek to retain and strengthen the traditional characteristics that uniquely define countries (as well as the loose collective of “western”) without a focus on race and without embracing innate racial superiority. Not only “can” you but, in the face of attacks from liberals and imported cultures, we really “must”.
I disagree, of course, that cultures and tradition "must" be protected from "contamination" from the Evil Liberals or the Evil Imported Cultures, because cultures "contaminate" each other all the time (this is why the SocJus "cultural appropriation" idea is bullshit) and evolved through time. What is important want to protect isn't cultural purity, it's the values of liberal, secular democracy (freedom of speech, presumption of innocence, separation of church and state, secularism) and the rule of law.
The problems with immigration aren't the fact that people no longer drink tea or eat kebabs instead of black pudding, or that there are Chinese shops where once there were none. They are, for example, the Qu'ran-inspired misogyny that defends and informs the hatred for "loose women", and so gives "justifications" to rape gangs, or the arrival of people who have been raised in a violent environment and can't easily adapt to a less violent one.
In order to do so rational restrictions to immigration and naturalization are required: you can't let in thousands of barely educated, reactionary people from a theocracy, give them the right to stay without any sort of educational or social obligation, leave them in isolated, economically and socially disadvantaged ghettos, and expect them to magically decide to assume your values. So yes, as I've said, I'm not a fan of the "open borders" option. It's better to let in people who can integrate, and take the necessary steps to favor integration.
But while we disagree on the "defense of culture" I COULD see an argument for "cultural defense" as being different from a racial focus, IF it was about limiting all immigration severely and in the same way. IF "culture has to be preserved" (which, as I've written, I don't agree with) then surely all "alien" cultures are a threat, whether they're from Portuguese in Switzerland or Chinese in Australia. The fact that you refer to Switzerland as the ethno-state of your dreams, while you decry the large number of Asian immigrants to Australia, casts some doubts on whether it's "culture" that you want to defend, or something else.
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So I pushed on and watched the rest of 'Lost in Space'
Firstly if they make a second series I won't be watching it. To say the Robot was the most endearing and interesting character isn't being flippant, he really was and he only says about 10 words the whole series. It's full of social justice crap, the alpha male characters are quickly brought down a peg and of course the women are all 'confident feminists' who (with the exception of Dr. Smith) can do no wrong.
The acting is poor, the storyline weak and the script appallingly lame. Any infusion of humour is cringingly awkward and usually involves a sardonic if somewhat embarrassingly flirtatious one liner put down to one of the men. Lastly although the special effects (CGI) looked good the science, and I readily admit my ignorance, looked ridiculously impossible.
I am disappointed because I remember enjoying the original as a kid and was hoping for something much better although I'm hardly surprised as it seems this is the way Sci-Fi is going these days. Anyway, for what it's worth, that's my take.
Firstly if they make a second series I won't be watching it. To say the Robot was the most endearing and interesting character isn't being flippant, he really was and he only says about 10 words the whole series. It's full of social justice crap, the alpha male characters are quickly brought down a peg and of course the women are all 'confident feminists' who (with the exception of Dr. Smith) can do no wrong.
The acting is poor, the storyline weak and the script appallingly lame. Any infusion of humour is cringingly awkward and usually involves a sardonic if somewhat embarrassingly flirtatious one liner put down to one of the men. Lastly although the special effects (CGI) looked good the science, and I readily admit my ignorance, looked ridiculously impossible.
I am disappointed because I remember enjoying the original as a kid and was hoping for something much better although I'm hardly surprised as it seems this is the way Sci-Fi is going these days. Anyway, for what it's worth, that's my take.
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So, if a political campaign acquires evidence that an opponent may have committed a (serious) crime, they should keep it to themselves? Or do they only keep it to themselves if the source was not a US citizen? I'm confused as to what is your position.
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I was afraid it would be like that. The previews I saw didn't even show John and Don and only briefly showed Will with the robot. I am a huge Parker Posey fan so I was looking forward to seeing her as Dr. Smith though.shoutinghorse wrote: ↑ So I pushed on and watched the rest of 'Lost in Space'
Firstly if they make a second series I won't be watching it. To say the Robot was the most endearing and interesting character isn't being flippant, he really was and he only says about 10 words the whole series. It's full of social justice crap, the alpha male characters are quickly brought down a peg and of course the women are all 'confident feminists' who (with the exception of Dr. Smith) can do no wrong.
The acting is poor, the storyline weak and the script appallingly lame. Any infusion of humour is cringingly awkward and usually involves a sardonic if somewhat embarrassingly flirtatious one liner put down to one of the men. Lastly although the special effects (CGI) looked good the science, and I readily admit my ignorance, looked ridiculously impossible.
I am disappointed because I remember enjoying the original as a kid and was hoping for something much better although I'm hardly surprised as it seems this is the way Sci-Fi is going these days. Anyway, for what it's worth, that's my take.
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I'm looking for a term that is the opposite of a sausage fest. Would clam bake work?
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Maybe it was the script but from this showing no emmy's will be coming her way anytime soon :cry:katamari Damassi wrote: ↑ I am a huge Parker Posey fan so I was looking forward to seeing her as Dr. Smith though.
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The source needs to be a US citizen. That is why when Guccifer2.0, a Russian employee of the FSB illegally hacked the DNC emails and fed them to antiamerican kangaroo molester Julian Assange they were automatically granted US citizenship by Trump supporters.Billie from Ockham wrote: ↑So, if a political campaign acquires evidence that an opponent may have committed a (serious) crime, they should keep it to themselves? Or do they only keep it to themselves if the source was not a US citizen? I'm confused as to what is your position.
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I thought "Lock Her Up" was bad. I keep hearing that we're not supposed to try to swing elections by pushing our opponents toward the big house.Billie from Ockham wrote: ↑Sat Apr 21, 2018 9:19 amSo, if a political campaign acquires evidence that an opponent may have committed a (serious) crime, they should keep it to themselves? Or do they only keep it to themselves if the source was not a US citizen? I'm confused as to what is your position.
I don't care who gave us the e-mails. I am just glad that we have firm evidence of the DNC being a corrupt fraud.free thoughtpolice wrote: ↑Sat Apr 21, 2018 9:37 amThe source needs to be a US citizen. That is why when Guccifer2.0, a Russian employee of the FSB illegally hacked the DNC emails and fed them to antiamerican kangaroo molester Julian Assange they were automatically granted US citizenship by Trump supporters.Billie from Ockham wrote: ↑So, if a political campaign acquires evidence that an opponent may have committed a (serious) crime, they should keep it to themselves? Or do they only keep it to themselves if the source was not a US citizen? I'm confused as to what is your position.
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Why does anything to do with Hillary turn you into a complete retard?Really? wrote: ↑Steele is an American? His Russian intel sources are American?Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:27 pmIOW, an intelligence agent collecting information from individual sources. Spun as a Russian Govt. action by Limbaugh or whatever talk radio nut job our poor, heartbroken Bernie Bro is listening to.
You don't see something questionable in a political campaign funneling foreign intel to our intelligence agencies in hopes of hurting a political opponent?
No, I have no problem with opposition research in political campaigns. Everyone does them.
You seem to be insinuating that the Russians fed the HRC campaign false info about trump for the purpose of ... what exactly?
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Why does anything to do with Hillary turn you into a complete retard?Really? wrote: ↑Steele is an American? His Russian intel sources are American?Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:27 pmIOW, an intelligence agent collecting information from individual sources. Spun as a Russian Govt. action by Limbaugh or whatever talk radio nut job our poor, heartbroken Bernie Bro is listening to.
You don't see something questionable in a political campaign funneling foreign intel to our intelligence agencies in hopes of hurting a political opponent?
No, I have no problem with opposition research in political campaigns. Everyone does them.
You seem to be insinuating that the Russians fed the HRC campaign false info about trump for the purpose of ... what exactly?
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really wrote:You don't see something questionable in a political campaign funneling foreign intel to our intelligence agencies in hopes of hurting a political opponent?
It's Okay When We Do it™really wrote:I don't care who gave us the e-mails. I am just glad that we have firm evidence of the DNC being a corrupt fraud.
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Me too. Her comedic sense is especially amazing.katamari Damassi wrote: ↑ I am a huge Parker Posey fan
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Me too. Her comedic sense is especially amazing.katamari Damassi wrote: ↑ I am a huge Parker Posey fan
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Not at all. The RNC is equally corrupt. I won't support either party.Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑really wrote:You don't see something questionable in a political campaign funneling foreign intel to our intelligence agencies in hopes of hurting a political opponent?It's Okay When We Do it™really wrote:I don't care who gave us the e-mails. I am just glad that we have firm evidence of the DNC being a corrupt fraud.
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Yeah, you mean the Trump boys meeting the Russians in Trump tower for "dirt on Hillary Clinton?" Oh, except contrary to common sense and patriotism, they didn't report it to any intelligence agencies, which makes it okay.
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Trouble in the Magical Kingdom?
I can't vouch for the source, but other sketchy-looking channels are reporting it too.
I can't vouch for the source, but other sketchy-looking channels are reporting it too.
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If it's music you are looking for - why didn' t you just say...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHRwuWioWzo
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Do you flip a coin before writing each post to which way you're going to argue?
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:nin:Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑really wrote:You don't see something questionable in a political campaign funneling foreign intel to our intelligence agencies in hopes of hurting a political opponent?It's Okay When We Do it™really wrote:I don't care who gave us the e-mails. I am just glad that we have firm evidence of the DNC being a corrupt fraud.
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Oh, you mean when Don Jr. met with the Russian lawyer who was working with the law firm Hillary was paying? If meeting with Hillary's Russian employee was colluding with Russians...CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: ↑Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:57 amYeah, you mean the Trump boys meeting the Russians in Trump tower for "dirt on Hillary Clinton?" Oh, except contrary to common sense and patriotism, they didn't report it to any intelligence agencies, which makes it okay.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tr ... mp-n819526In an interview with NBC News, Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya says she first received the supposedly incriminating information she brought to Trump Tower — describing alleged tax evasion and donations to Democrats — from Glenn Simpson, the Fusion GPS owner, who had been hired to conduct research in a New York federal court case.
A source with firsthand knowledge of the matter confirmed that the firm's research had been provided to Veselnitskaya as part of the case, which involved alleging money laundering by a Russian company called Prevezon.
This account casts Veselnitskaya's activities in a new light, challenging the notion that she was simply carrying talking points to Trump that originated with the Russian government.
What are you talking about? Publishing the DNC e-mails to the public is a very different thing from using intelligence and law enforcement agencies to harm your opponent.Billie from Ockham wrote: ↑Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:23 amDo you flip a coin before writing each post to which way you're going to argue?
Both Parties Are Bad, So Vote Third Party™Billie from Ockham wrote: ↑Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:24 am:nin:Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑really wrote:You don't see something questionable in a political campaign funneling foreign intel to our intelligence agencies in hopes of hurting a political opponent?It's Okay When We Do it™really wrote:I don't care who gave us the e-mails. I am just glad that we have firm evidence of the DNC being a corrupt fraud.
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We do have a proper thread for All Things Trump
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viewtopic.php?f=29&t=514&start=900
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Knitting circle.katamari Damassi wrote: ↑ I'm looking for a term that is the opposite of a sausage fest. Would clam bake work?
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https://apnews.com/amp/61401309150248ea ... ssion=true
A sentencing in the Chicago hate crime where the black people tortured a disabled white youth. I have to wonder what the sentences would have been had the races been reversed.
A sentencing in the Chicago hate crime where the black people tortured a disabled white youth. I have to wonder what the sentences would have been had the races been reversed.
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:Dshoutinghorse wrote: ↑Allowing women to drive was clearly a huuuge mistake. :snooty:
Yeah, somebody probably saw the slippery slope to the future and thought, "Okay, the time to get out the guns is NOW."
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