There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one

#8701

Kirbmarc wrote: ↑ The moral of the story is: keep your professional and your personal life separated and never offer or ask for sex in exchange for professional help or recommendations.

That's been Rule Two for ages, tho', hasn't it? The usual wording is: Don't shit where you eat.

(Rule One is: Don't stick your dick in crazy.)

#8702

I'm beginning to think that there may have been off-standard views of gender for some time...if poetry is anything to go by.

Though I've never identified as cumulus-kin myself.

#8703

Shatterface wrote: ↑ Can I ask how traditional are your values?

Are you married and did you both hold out for sex until you'd put a ring on it?

I've tried those rings. They can hurt (a lot) and they don't really work. "Margaret Thatcher standing naked on a cold day" is much more effective.

#8704

Shatterface wrote: ↑
Brive1987 wrote: ↑ They were both playing power poker (hee hee), he had the jobs and she could give him what he wanted. Dangerous game that usually ends in tears. In this case hers. And, as he feared, ultimately his.

I am reassured by your traditional values re marriage and assume it’s on this moral front you ascribe the greater blame to Dave?
Can I ask how traditional are your values?

Are you married and did you both hold out for sex until you'd put a ring on it?

Were you both pure as Peezus?

I suspect you miss the difference between traditional values as an ideal vs being a rod for your back.

Anyway. We married 28 years ago, I was in my early to mid twenties. No we didn’t “hold out” but we didn’t wait too long for engagement. Yes I had girlfriends and shags before. Unlike Peez. We married in an ivy covered CofE church. My subsequent issues with religion are a problem between us. My wife never believed that ‘working-mothers’ was a great compound word. She took as much time off as we could afford and still works part time.

We are of like mind on most topics. Especially the importance of the family unit and the value of heritage.

Did I pass sir?

#8705

Bhurzum wrote: ↑ Addendum: She really does have a face like a smacked arse. She gives me the creeps!

Oh, really? I've heard from an impeccable source (Zvan herself!) that she gets cat-called. Somebody likes watching Zvan's thunderbutt in motion.

https://imgur.com/e2rM0xF.png

#8706

MarcusAu wrote: ↑Though I've never identified as cumulus-kin myself.

If you wouldn't bang a cloud and streak its face with your salty chem-trail, you're clearly a filthy bigot!

Literally shaking with rage!

#8707

Ape+lust wrote: ↑Somebody likes watching Zvan's thunderbutt in motion.

I'm not gay but if anyone could convert me, it's Zvan! The thought of her straddling me and slowly lowering her greasy clopper onto my shrieking face...Christ on a bike! I need a drink...

#8708

Case in point. I shared Faith’s tweet just now and got the immediate response “it’s a world gone mad”. Followed by a “has she got a new video up?”

#8709

Bhurzum wrote: ↑I'm not gay but if anyone could convert me, it's Zvan! The thought of her straddling me and slowly lowering her greasy clopper onto my shrieking face...Christ on a bike! I need a drink...

:lol: :lol:

That's the sort of indomitable spirit that'll see our species through climate change, collapsed fisheries, peak oil, nuclear annihilation. Now I know we shall never perish.

*wipes tear*

#8710

Bhurzum wrote: ↑
If you wouldn't bang a cloud and streak its face with your salty chem-trail, you're clearly a filthy bigot!

Literally shaking with rage!

I'm fine with other clouds - it's the daffodils I can't stand.

Buncha pansies.

#8711

MarcusAu wrote: ↑
Bhurzum wrote: ↑
If you wouldn't bang a cloud and streak its face with your salty chem-trail, you're clearly a filthy bigot!

Literally shaking with rage!
I'm fine with other clouds - it's the daffodils I can't stand.

Buncha pansies.

LGBTQ = Lupins, geraniums, bluebells, tiger lillies and quince.

No pansies in there...unless "pansiesexual" is a thing? Checking tumblr and will confirm your bigot-status shortly.

#8712

If ever you needed that smelly old cat lady look. :lol:

https://i.imgur.com/I2Zoo03.png

#8713

Billie from Ockham wrote: ↑
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑ Gender doesn't exist. There is sex. An infinitesimally small number of humans suffer from a sex-related dysphoria.
Skinner would be proud.

May I infer that you also believe that depression, anxiety, extroversion, etc, all don't exist, either?

That's a complete non sequitur -- how the fuck did you arrive at that?

#8714

I wandered lonely as a cloud
That floats on high o'er vales and hills,
When all at once I saw a crowd,
A host, of bent-shot daffodils;
Beside the lake, beneath the trees,
Bunch of lousy aids filled queers.

Continuous as the stars that shine
And twinkle on the milky way,
They stretched in never-ending line
Along the margin of a bay:
Ten thousand saw I at a glance,
Doing a poofy techno dance.

The waves beside them danced; but they
Out-did the sparkling waves in glee:
A poet could not but be gay,
In such abhorrent company:
I gazed—and gazed—but little thought
What ruinous moral decay they brought.

For oft, when on my couch I lie
In vacant or in pensive mood,
They flash upon that inward eye
Which is the bliss of solitude;
And then my heart with hatred fills,
And curses those faggot daffodils.

"I wandered lonely as an alt-right homophobe" - MarcusAu, Bumper Book Of Slympit Bigotry, 2018

:bjarte:

#8715

Billie from Ockham wrote: ↑ Second, if Matt had quoted a policy that said that kids must be taught that gender is separate from biological sex (which most teachers and kids would read as "independent of"), then I would have thrown a fit, too.

On the contrary, they're teaching kids that 'sex' is determined by gender identity, not 'sex assigned at birth' (by some evil cishetwhitemaninawhitecoat.)

#8716

Brive1987 wrote: ↑
Kirbmarc wrote: ↑ The moral of the story is: keep your professional and your personal life separated and never offer or ask for sex in exchange for professional help or recommendations.
She should have pursued the trad-life.

So should he.

Come to think of it, the subjects of all three atheoskeptic Buzzfeed exposés (not to mention lesser figures such as the former denouncer of A- CHUDs) could've avoided controversy by the simple expedient of having exactly one lover.

#8717

They've come to punch Nazis ;)

#8718

Kirbmarc wrote: ↑
Brive1987 wrote: ↑An alternative interpretation is that he spotted her as an unscrupulous gold digger and was taking responsible precautions. Probably took a course of penicillin for the same reason.

Like I said. An alternative interpretation.
If that's true then Silverman is an idiot for not having made it more clear than their relationship wasn't about a quid pro quo.

He's also a moron for cheating at a conference where he was one of the main stars, and of course an asshole for cheating in the first place.

More like a few quid pro quim.

#8719

Bhurzum wrote: ↑ ...

"I wandered lonely as an alt-right homophobe" - MarcusAu, Bumper Book Of Slympit Bigotry, 2018

:bjarte:

Very good - can you do anything with 'Address to a Haggis' for those into food porn.

(Just asking for a friend).

#8720

Smelly cat ladies? I've known a few, done the housecalls and arranged the involuntary disposition of those who had gone beyond. Yesterday, I came across an equally confusing issue and I'd be happy to take advice. I've been looking for decent news aggregators, as reading the Globe & Mail site, followed by the National Post site is a bit tiresome. I came across realclearpolitics.com but it seems slanted rather more rightward than I'd like - I really want an equal mix of right and left viewpoints - I know, so naive. Whilst there, I saw a link to one of their own articles written by a surgeon about the cause of autism being acetaminophen. I'm completely comfortable with mad surgeons. They often are and I rather expect them to be that way. But this article was so full of errors that I had to spend some time composing a suitably devastating (yet polite) reply. I have posted it there four times so far using a Disqus account, but it very quickly disappears without trace. I don't know if a RealClear drone is employed to delete criticism, or whether I have, justifiably, annoyed the dim surgeon-who-understands-autism-better-than-anyone-else.
So questions:
1. Any recommendations for decent aggregators that aren't wretchedly slanted towards one end or the other of the political spectrum?
2. The article I referred to is here. Feel free to criticise it at will. My comment will probably be deleted again if you want to read it, so here it is in full:

I'll start out by saying that this hypothesis might hold some water, but there are so many associations that ain't necessarily causal mentioned in this article that one could very easily be misled by it. I'm not linked in any way to the drug or vaccine industry, and I am the parent of an autistic son who clearly inherited it from me. I am also a physician.

1. "the vaccine did not cause autism, but acetaminophen given with the vaccine does" - one of the main reasons vaccines get blame is that they are given around the time that autistic kids distinguish themselves from neurotypical kids. Just as vaccines got blamed for something coincidental, any other factor occurring at the same time might be implicated with equal justification. Or it could be equally coincidental. Correlation is not causation, if it needs to be said again. Any other typical event at the same age could be equally responsible, so let's blame encouraging your child to say his first words. Silly, isn't it?

2. "The first is historical. Autism rates were relatively low – about four cases per 10,000 – until the mid-1980s, when they suddenly exploded (see graph), rising to more than 100 cases per 10,000 today. A leading theory proposed to explain this increase is that most of it does not reflect a change in the actual occurrence of autism, but rather it is a reflection of changing awareness, diagnostic criteria, and other factors." - if you really want to know how much difference diagnostic criteria can make consider this: we currently are said to underdiagnose autism in girls. No one actually thinks the incidence is less in girls, but the problem is that their better socialisation compared to boys of the same age allows them to conceal their difficulties to some extent, enough to befuddle our diagnostic interviews including the highly-structured ADOS and ADI-R. Diagnosis that depends on tightly controlled scoring of a structured interview is easily misled. Use of such interviews for diagnosis is relatively recent, and only the obvious-from-the-other-side-of-the-mall autist will be diagnosed without them.

3. "Circumcised boys – who are typically given acetaminophen for pain relief -- have 50 percent more autism than uncircumcised boys....Unusual and unexplained rates of autism in Israel and in South Korea may also have their roots in levels of acetaminophen exposure in those countries." - you might want to consider that the genetic basis of autism could be responsible, jewish boys get circumcised, lots of jewish boys in Israel etc.

4. "Physicians also need to consider using readily available supplements that are proven to block the known toxic side effects of acetaminophen in adults." Do tell! We would need to see some reputable science about these 'supplements' that are completely unknown to me.

5. "The observations made by parents are real. Employing the principle of Occam’s Razor to find the simplest answer to a problem, we combine biology, epidemiology, and pharmacology and point toward acetaminophen." Oh, boy. You really just wrote that? If you want simple as our friend William of Ockham recommended, look at genetics. Science journalists could benefit from learning what the scientific method means, and using it when reporting.

Let's be clear. Autism is a symptom-cluster caused by a ragbag of things. Intrauterine infections with what used to be called TORCH (toxoplasma, rubella, cytomegalovirus, herpes virus - no doubt more pathogens can do it eg parvovirus and so on), severe placental insufficiency, birth hypoxia, seizure disorders, chromosomal errors, head injury, intrauterine exposure to drugs, chemicals, alcohol (all three the same, really) and possibly physical factors such as radiation et al. My take is that all the above cause autism-like symptoms, and the condition they sometimes resemble is a genetic disorder. It's a bit bit hard to do these days, since our large asylums have been emptied so that their residents can experience the full joy of Community (doesn't) Care, but if you were able to look through the thousands that used to live in such institutions, you would quickly see that those we used to call 'autistic' bear little resemblance to the average child newly diagnosed today. Autism-like brain injury, from infections, hypoxia, seizures and the rest all resulted in terribly damaged people who were often severely handicapped cognitively, and frequently non-verbal. Let's contrast that with the fact that our current 'epidemic' of autism requires a carefully structured interview to give some reliability to the diagnosis. Even then, parents receiving the results pretty much divide equally into those who suspected something might be wrong, and those who still think their child is normal and mis-diagnosed with autism. These are not the 'congenital imbeciles' (not my term, but an official and outdated one) of the Victorian asylum. It's pretty obvious that autism is a spectrum, and that the spectrum isn't just a range of severity of one disorder, but multiple disorders, some of which are only there because they look a bit like the others. Simply put, there is a core disorder of autism that is genetic and relatively subtle, and there are the forms of brain-damage that look somewhat similar and are often far more severe. I suspect that as diagnostic techniques and standards have improved, we are seeing an 'epidemic' of the first kind, and not of the latter. It would be quite easy to check by, for instance, examining whether the percentage of non-verbal autists is falling among the newly diagnosed, which might confirm that we are simply getting better at recognising the genetic-autists, as well as perhaps suggesting we are getting better at prenatal and intrapartum care and so reducing the incidence of brain-damage autism-like cases.
Interesting as all that is, it doesn't address the horror and discomfort caused to parents. The first question - always "Why?" Me, us, him, her? - is quickly followed by the second - "What did I do to cause/deserve this?" It's curious that parents want to avoid being genetically responsible for their child's condition, when it is the one cause they actually had no control over. Let's blame, vaccines, cold personalities, even Tylenol; anything but my genes. You didn't have to give Tylenol. You didn't have to vaccinate your kid. You were told by professionals who ought to have known better to do those things. It's a great thing to offload blame, but it serves no purpose whatsoever if you put the blame in the wrong place. Why can we not look at a genetic predisposition to autism as the same thing as, say cystic fibrosis? When two carriers of that gene produce an affected child, they might feel some regret, but they didn't know they carried the gene, and can't be blamed for passing it on. They get on and do the best they can for their child. They don't go looking to blame vaccines, or Tylenol. Do we feel differently about autism simply because it is a brain disorder rather than a purely physical one? Is it that the genetics are not simple autosomal recessive, but involve multiple genes (again, that makes it less predictable, and even further from a situation in which the parents could and should have known). Maybe it's that genetic explanations for your child having autism remove blame from you as a parent, but at the same time say something about you: you have it too. Is that the bit that's so hard to swallow? I don't know, but I hope I give food for thought to parents and researchers.
So, in summary, I understand the desire to avoid the genetic origin of most cases of autism, but we do no favours by ignoring the truth to chase up other non-genetic causes. We waste time and resources pandering to the desire to find an external cause for it, and in so doing we do a disservice both to autists and their parents. Incidentally, I wouldn't have my son any other way. I realised years ago that even if I could press a magic button to undo everything about him and turn him into a neurotypical person, I wouldn't press it unless he wanted me to do so. He's fine as he is, and it's not my business to mess with other people's minds. I hope that other parents can get to the same point with regard to their children.

3. My O-pos liver is about to have its sixtieth birthday and may be contaminated with leukemia. You can have it if you want. It doesn't seem to process the gin and Campari as well as it ought.

4. Back to surgeons and madness. They aren't mad, just not terribly bright. Also they demonstrate the exact same mindset as someone who has retired from a lifetime in the peacetime military, which is demonstrably different to that of a career or conscript soldier who has been through a war. Sadly, they like to play rugby, aren't fussy about their beer, and sing a lot. That may well help them when faced with a rigid acute abdomen at 3am and a decision must be made as to where to make the incision. They ought not to be trusted with complicated matters beyond that. An excellent indicator of the surgical mindset was the observation that physicians/internists would walk down the side of a hospital corridor touching the handrail with one hand, whilst the surgeons would stride right down the middle. Too much confidence does not assist the proper adoption of a scientific mindset.

#8721

Kirbmarc wrote: ↑ It's not a matter of traditional values as much as it is a matter of not lying to the person you're having a serious relationship with. I'm fine with people deciding to have an open couple, or swinging, or not to be in a serious relationship, if they're all in the clear and agree to that. I don't see myself as being able to do that, but more power to them if they can.

I have no problem with it in theory, but I wouldn't be able to resist the urge to tell any prospective swingers it's probably not going to work out.

And it may not simply be as is often said that "people just aren't wired that way." Every liberal is familiar with the concept of relationship dynamics, and, for example, why it's inappropriate for someone to initiate a relationship with a student or employee. The relationship is imbalanced from the start.

Well if you're trying to balance a relationship like a teeter-totter the worst thing you could do is start adding more people.

#8722

Old_ones wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:32 pm
Worth noting - there is no "BDSM safeword". The idea is that you negotiate a safeword, and you have an agreed upon one before you start the session. "Red" isn't a good safeword much less a universal one. "Clam-banana" is a far better one, because no one is going to say that ever except as a code word for something.

So Please Sir remove that clam banana from my arsehole is not going to set you free. Will remember.

As to that Silverman lass, if she used a predetermined BDSM safeword and Silverman respected it, we may assume she engaged in a voluntary interaction. Surely Gretha would understand that, no?

#8723

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑
Billie from Ockham wrote: ↑
Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑ Gender doesn't exist. There is sex. An infinitesimally small number of humans suffer from a sex-related dysphoria.
Skinner would be proud.

May I infer that you also believe that depression, anxiety, extroversion, etc, all don't exist, either?
That's a complete non sequitur -- how the fuck did you arrive at that?

You claimed that a psychological construct (that cannot be directly observed) does not exist, even if it has predictive validity. That's straight from Skinner.

#8724

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑
Billie from Ockham wrote: ↑ Second, if Matt had quoted a policy that said that kids must be taught that gender is separate from biological sex (which most teachers and kids would read as "independent of"), then I would have thrown a fit, too.
On the contrary, they're teaching kids that 'sex' is determined by gender identity, not 'sex assigned at birth' (by some evil cishetwhitemaninawhitecoat.)

If so, and if you had quoted that part of the policy, I would not have taken issue. What you actually quoted was the standard definition of "gender" as if that were the mistake.

Again, the problem isn't that people believe that "gender" is a useful concept; it's when they use this construct in the place of sex when the actual issue is sex, or when they go even farther and argue that sex does not exist, only gender does. But we have to focus on the actual errors, not things that happen to be true but have been misinterpreted by idiots.

#8725

Ape+lust wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:11 am
Stay to the end

Noooo!

see Zvan talk about feeling a great weight

Now that is true.

#8726

feathers wrote: ↑
Old_ones wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:32 pm
Worth noting - there is no "BDSM safeword". The idea is that you negotiate a safeword, and you have an agreed upon one before you start the session. "Red" isn't a good safeword much less a universal one. "Clam-banana" is a far better one, because no one is going to say that ever except as a code word for something.
So Please Sir remove that clam banana from my arsehole is not going to set you free. Will remember.

As to that Silverman lass, if she used a predetermined BDSM safeword and Silverman respected it, we may assume she engaged in a voluntary interaction. Surely Gretha would understand that, no?

Everyone knows RED is a universal safeword, or at least half of the baboons seem to know. Considering they are such a ouritanical bunch they seem to know lost about pervy sex.
http://archive.is/6nrqC

Mikkel Nif Rasmussen
13 April 2018 at 7:07 pm
Uhm, how do you come to have a “safe word” if you haven’t done “something” together before? That’s extremely strange.

bethpresswood
13 April 2018 at 7:18 pm
For those confused, RED is a universal safeword in at least the American BDSM subculture.

Brian Pansky
13 April 2018 at 8:53 pm
@4, Mikkel Nif Rasmussen
Uhm, how do you come to have a “safe word” if you haven’t done “something” together before? That’s extremely strange.
I think you are misinterpreting. They didn’t have a safe word together. That’s why she said “no” first. She said “red” because anyone who knows even the 101 level of basics about BDSM knows that it is the most common safeword that people use.
Precisely the kind of safeword you would try using if you had NOT negotiated a different one previously. Right?
Azkyroth, B*Cos[F(u)]==Y
13 April 2018 at 9:25 pm
I think you are misinterpreting. They didn’t have a safe word together. That’s why she said “no” first. She said “red” because anyone who knows even the 101 level of basics about BDSM knows that it is the most common safeword that people use.
Yeah, I’m not sure I’ve been *anywhere* that didn’t treat “RED” as an automatic scene-ender and request for staff intervention.

Even Brian Pansy knows RED is a safe word. How many of you guys knew it was a universal safe word?

#8727

free thoughtpolice wrote: ↑Even Brian Pansy knows RED is a safe word. How many of you guys knew it was a universal safe word?

Traffic light system is quite common. I wouldn't say red was a universal safeword. There are other safewords used.

I tend to use red. That means I can say 20 no's in 5 seconds , confident that it won't stop :-)

#8728

I always thought the universal safe word was "Keep going I'm almost ready to cum".

#8729

https://imgur.com/wI3DaO4.jpg

#8730

:D APE ,, :clap:

#8731

Hidden camera footage of hijinx at a recent atheist/skeptic convention:

#8732

Hunt wrote: ↑
Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:55 am

Kirbmarc wrote: ↑ The moral of the story is: keep your professional and your personal life separated and never offer or ask for sex in exchange for professional help or recommendations.
I agree, of course, but it's probably here that the age discrepancy is most salient. A girl right out of college might think "I'm in the big world now, and this is how adult world works". Along comes Silverman, never intending to reciprocate, but willing to take advantage of the girl's naivete.

It may not be rape, but it is world class douchebaggery. Silverman deserves all the shit he gets.

She's... an adult. Like, really, there's a point where you have to say either she's allowed out of the house or she's too retarded to do anything but stay at home under the control of her parents.

#8733

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/12/ch ... =obnetwork
Another teacher having sex with a student. If the sexes were reversed, all the headlines would be declaring it an epidemic.

#8734

d4m10n wrote: ↑
Brive1987 wrote: ↑
Kirbmarc wrote: ↑ The moral of the story is: keep your professional and your personal life separated and never offer or ask for sex in exchange for professional help or recommendations.
Indeed. Though the men have taken their lumps, the women have reverted to “acted upon” victimnood.

She should have pursued the trad-life.
So should he.

Come to think of it, the subjects of all three atheoskeptic Buzzfeed exposés (not to mention lesser figures such as the former denouncer of A- CHUDs) could've avoided controversy by the simple expedient of having exactly one lover.

That goes without saying. The issue here is the one sided allocation of responsibility (and therefore blame) and the characterisation of the St Clair case in particular as a rape/sexual assault.

#8735

Pettibones squeeze has tested the nature of his relationship with UK and found it to be terminal.

#8736

free thoughtpolice wrote: ↑ I always thought the universal safe word was "Keep going I'm almost ready to cum".

My safe word is 'You give head just like your sister.'

#8737

When I hear the phrase 'trad-life' (mostly from people that are young, unmarried and conservative) - it seems fairly undefined - and I suspect that that may be by design.

I'm also reminded of the old Woodstock couple photo - because by any definition there were (and probably still are) plenty of liberals living the 'trad-life' (as per the story in the link with the couple still being together after 45 years).

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/_901vIJ_iTew/ ... couple.jpg

As to other societal changes - abortion, divorce and pre-matrial sex had to be destigmatized at some point - or if not - I don't really have a problem that they were.

#8738

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑ You fucking ninja'd me by seconds.

6:31am my time.

If I hadn't fallen asleep on the couch last night and just woken up I'd have missed my moment of triumph.

#8739

Brive1987 wrote: ↑ Case in point. I shared Faith’s tweet just now and got the immediate response “it’s a world gone mad”. Followed by a “has she got a new video up?”

What is she on about? Is Canada also attacking Syria?

#8740

No, it’s Macron going eyeliner crazy.

Silly French.

#8741

Hence the tricolour :whistle:

#8742

Brive1987 wrote: ↑ No, it’s Macron going eyeliner crazy.

Silly French.

Are we sure that he's not buying all that make-up for his ~~rapist former teacher~~ MILF wife?

#8743

Oh god.

PZ has moved onto response videos. This time putting Noel Plum into his place over a shoop.

Cringe.

#8744

Remember in Expelled when Ben Stein made sure to feature lots of shots of makeup being applied to Dawkins before their interview?

Yeah, I haven't given much of a fuck about dudes wearing makeup for the purposes of not looking greasy on camera in a long fucking while.

#8745

Amohpmyl wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:12 pm
Oooh! There's going to be a reading of Powell's most famous an prescient speech on R4 on Saturday: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-43745447

If anyone could record it for me I'd be very grateful...

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Here it is converted to mp3
Havent listened to it fully yet, the Powell voice impersonation is a but too "wobbly William Hague" to me.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gz5wibzkyfzqs ... 5.mp3?dl=0

#8746

Sunder wrote: ↑ Remember in Expelled when Ben Stein made sure to feature lots of shots of makeup being applied to Dawkins before their interview?

Yeah, I haven't given much of a fuck about dudes wearing makeup for the purposes of not looking greasy on camera in a long fucking while.

You will note it’s the $30K in three months that indicates a problem rather than the dab of talc to stop shining forehead syndrome.

#8747

shoutinghorse wrote: ↑:D APE ,, :clap:

Thank you! :dance:

I hope somebody thanked those 3 for letting everyone see the dweeb stock antifa draws from.

#8748

Brive1987 wrote: ↑
Sunder wrote: ↑ Remember in Expelled when Ben Stein made sure to feature lots of shots of makeup being applied to Dawkins before their interview?

Yeah, I haven't given much of a fuck about dudes wearing makeup for the purposes of not looking greasy on camera in a long fucking while.
You will note it’s the $30K in three months that indicates a problem rather than the dab of talc to stop shining forehead syndrome.

The article doesn't appear to state whether that's a personal expenditure or paid for by the state. If it's the latter then fair enough, but otherwise it's a bit of a weird novelty at best. A bit like gilding the interiors of your homes and apartments.

#8749

Brive1987 wrote: ↑ Oh god.

PZ has moved onto response videos. This time putting Noel Plum into his place over a shoop.

Cringe.

He reminds us why he so rarely wins live debates. He thinks that distracted air of amusement he affects is as convincing as a coherent argument.

#8750

Shatterface wrote: ↑
free thoughtpolice wrote: ↑ I always thought the universal safe word was "Keep going I'm almost ready to cum".
My safe word is 'You give head just like your sister.'

My GF's safe word...

https://pics.astrologymemes.com/anal-na ... 970160.png

...is the charm of unmaking. Very appropriate when it's anal night! ;)

#8751

free thoughtpolice wrote: ↑
feathers wrote: ↑
Old_ones wrote: ↑
Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:32 pm
Worth noting - there is no "BDSM safeword". The idea is that you negotiate a safeword, and you have an agreed upon one before you start the session. "Red" isn't a good safeword much less a universal one. "Clam-banana" is a far better one, because no one is going to say that ever except as a code word for something.
So Please Sir remove that clam banana from my arsehole is not going to set you free. Will remember.

As to that Silverman lass, if she used a predetermined BDSM safeword and Silverman respected it, we may assume she engaged in a voluntary interaction. Surely Gretha would understand that, no?
Everyone knows RED is a universal safeword, or at least half of the baboons seem to know. Considering they are such a ouritanical bunch they seem to know lost about pervy sex.
http://archive.is/6nrqC
Mikkel Nif Rasmussen
13 April 2018 at 7:07 pm
Uhm, how do you come to have a “safe word” if you haven’t done “something” together before? That’s extremely strange.

bethpresswood
13 April 2018 at 7:18 pm
For those confused, RED is a universal safeword in at least the American BDSM subculture.

Brian Pansky
13 April 2018 at 8:53 pm
@4, Mikkel Nif Rasmussen
Uhm, how do you come to have a “safe word” if you haven’t done “something” together before? That’s extremely strange.
I think you are misinterpreting. They didn’t have a safe word together. That’s why she said “no” first. She said “red” because anyone who knows even the 101 level of basics about BDSM knows that it is the most common safeword that people use.
Precisely the kind of safeword you would try using if you had NOT negotiated a different one previously. Right?
Azkyroth, B*Cos[F(u)]==Y
13 April 2018 at 9:25 pm
I think you are misinterpreting. They didn’t have a safe word together. That’s why she said “no” first. She said “red” because anyone who knows even the 101 level of basics about BDSM knows that it is the most common safeword that people use.
Yeah, I’m not sure I’ve been *anywhere* that didn’t treat “RED” as an automatic scene-ender and request for staff intervention.
Even Brian Pansy knows RED is a safe word. How many of you guys knew it was a universal safe word?

Heh. Well, I've read up on BDSM and actually engaged in it with a former girlfriend (not that anyone wants to know that) but I don't know that I would consider myself part of a "subculture". Maybe there are universal safewords if you go to BDSM sex parties or clubs or something. My understanding has always been that you are supposed to talk and have a negotiation before you do anything with anyone, which means there is no need for a universal safeword. I've also never engaged in sexual activity in a place that had staff (or anywhere outside my home) so I have no idea what that is all about.

Someone should ask Dick Carrier. I'm sure he knows all about this.

#8752

Bhurzum wrote: ↑
Shatterface wrote: ↑
free thoughtpolice wrote: ↑ I always thought the universal safe word was "Keep going I'm almost ready to cum".
My safe word is 'You give head just like your sister.'
My GF's safe word...

https://pics.astrologymemes.com/anal-na ... 970160.png

...is the charm of unmaking. Very appropriate when it's anal night! ;)

#8753

Sunder wrote: ↑
Brive1987 wrote: ↑
Sunder wrote: ↑ Remember in Expelled when Ben Stein made sure to feature lots of shots of makeup being applied to Dawkins before their interview?

Yeah, I haven't given much of a fuck about dudes wearing makeup for the purposes of not looking greasy on camera in a long fucking while.
You will note it’s the $30K in three months that indicates a problem rather than the dab of talc to stop shining forehead syndrome.
The article doesn't appear to state whether that's a personal expenditure or paid for by the state. If it's the latter then fair enough, but otherwise it's a bit of a weird novelty at best. A bit like gilding the interiors of your homes and apartments.

Personal expenditure? :lol: :lol:

Looks like the penny has dropped with his country’s accounts payable dept:

The Elysée Palace said in response: “We called in a contractor as a matter of urgency.”

Aides said that spending on makeup would be “significantly reduced” in future.

#8754

Law student son has just returned from Washington and New York. Very interesting getting his firmly informed views straight off the plane.

Apparently Washington still doesn’t know or care about basic turf management along the Mall.

#8755

Ape+lust wrote: ↑
Brive1987 wrote: ↑ Oh god.

PZ has moved onto response videos. This time putting Noel Plum into his place over a shoop.

Cringe.
He reminds us why he so rarely wins live debates. He thinks that distracted air of amusement he affects is as convincing as a coherent argument.

He never tried it on with the Ape or Gefunko, did he?

#8756

InfraRedBucket wrote: ↑
Amohpmyl wrote: ↑
Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:12 pm
Oooh! There's going to be a reading of Powell's most famous an prescient speech on R4 on Saturday: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-43745447

If anyone could record it for me I'd be very grateful...
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Here it is converted to mp3
Havent listened to it fully yet, the Powell voice impersonation is a but too "wobbly William Hague" to me.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gz5wibzkyfzqs ... 5.mp3?dl=0

Thanks, fella!

#8757

I've spent all day punching down:

https://tinyurl.com/y98zoy34

► Show Spoiler

Guest_93d04891 · #8758

FFRF on Silverman, throws him under the bus and talks about bad blood between FFRF and American Atheists -

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/freethoughtnow/4385-2/

Guest_93d04891 · #8759

David Silverman was a proud feminist - Shadow to Light blog

https://shadowtolight.wordpress.com/201 ... -feminist/

Guest_1413c957 · #8760

Of all the rotten luck, David Silverman was born red green colorblind :(