There are 2018 genders... and a bitch ain't one

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Oh, and Clapper is the guy who lied to Congress about spying on Americans.

Why the fuck does ANYONE trust these people again?

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Shatterface wrote: While you lot were banging on about this nonsense I just watched IT and thought it very good indeed.

Maybe the most fun adaptation of a Stephen King story since Stand By Me.
My reaction was the opposite. Except for the first scene, I found it slow, and boring. The jump scares are telegraphed. The monster is never a threat to the kids unless they go looking for him. The bully was more frightening than the monster.

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The Mist is my favorite King movie, followed by Firestarter.

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I've never seen Firestarter.

I've never understood the fuss about Shawshank Redemption. It's not a bad movie by any means but I don't understand the adoration it gets, like it's the best movie ever.

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free thoughtpolice wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:28 pm
Not sure when this was filmed, the single was first released in 1956. I wonder if this would be PC these days. :think:
I always thought much the same about this from 1964... West Indians taking the piss out of Africans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aePR0ejK_h0

Come to think of it, I wonder how they would feel about Lenny Henry's old material?

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Waiting for somebody to point out that the video says 1966.

...it was 1964.

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I was looking for where that clip was from but the date seems irrelevant as it seems Hawkins was performing with a bone through his nose until the year of his death in 2000.

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Mr. X, Indeed wrote:
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In honor of the #metoo movement...



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Old_ones wrote:
In honor of the #metoo movement...


Now you have me missing the '80s (though I can't remember whether Anal Cunt came from the '80s or not).




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Shatterface wrote: I've never seen Firestarter.

I've never understood the fuss about Shawshank Redemption. It's not a bad movie by any means but I don't understand the adoration it gets, like it's the best movie ever.
Heretic. YOU MUST PRAISE TO HEAVEN ANYTHING MORGAN FREEMAN WAS EVER IN.

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Mr. X, Indeed wrote:
Old_ones wrote:
In honor of the #metoo movement...


Now you have me missing the '80s (though I can't remember whether Anal Cunt came from the '80s or not).



Yeah. They came from the late 80's. Formed in 1988. A lot of their material came out in the 90s and 00s though.

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Tara McCarthy has left "This Week on the AltRight" She will be doing shorter videos.

What a loss.

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Brive1987 wrote: Tara McCarthy has left "This Week on the AltRight" She will be doing shorter videos.

What a loss.

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Further Alt Right musings.

I agree with Mike Enoch that the term "ethnostate" does somewhat lead the debate down an unproductive path because it invites the kinds of questions Sargon was asking - crisp criteria for who is and isn't White. It's especially silly when you consider that European nations and America were pretty much ethnostates, and they weren't all Fascist. It's more a question of undoing a weird distortion and getting back to what was normal, rather than creating some new thing that's totally weird.

It's always relative - you prefer your family and friends to your village, your village to your nation, your nation to other nations, and if there were an alien invasion you'd be out there with an AR-15 side by side with Muslims hunting down random Greys. Since Whites are increasingly under attack, that's sufficient to create a sense of solidarity. Once the battle is won, we can go back to squabbling among ourselves again. (As Spencer himself said, the ethnostate would have its own Left/Right division.)

I think the Alt Right is a broader church than concentrating on the national socialist wing of it suggests. It's really defined by 3 basic ideas/commitments: race realism, the JQ and the 14 words. There's no special ideological unity beyond that. Yes, there's a sizeable national socialist wing (comprised mainly of ex-Leftists, actually - unsurprisingly), but there's also a an ex-liberal/libertarian wing (which I tend towards when I'm in an Alt Right mood, as I increasingly am these days).

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Incidentally, I had a brainstorm the other day: socialism is actually Right-wing, national socialism is the true native form of it.

Internationalist socialism is a weird hybrid between socialism and liberalism, which is why it tends to national socialism anyway, if left to its own devices (i.e. as David Ramsay Steele said, the USSR sleepwalked into Fascism, while its rhetoric and self-image remained that of internationalist socialism). IOW, it's not Fascism that was the "Third Way" it was actually Marxism/Bolshevism.

The trick is that the kind of social structure socialism seeks is inherently reactionary, a wish to return to an ordered, structured society with a hierarchical structure, with everyone knowing their place - as opposed to the "permanent revolution" and perpetual anxiety of liberalism and capitalism.

The universalism and individualism injected by Marxism (for whom the older socialism was naive, "utopian" and "unscientific") always sat poorly with the proposed economic solution. And in fact, the Fascist theorists were mostly ex-Marxists, disgruntled at the non-appearance of international working class solidarity, who noticed that nationalism was a ready-made form of solidarity that the working man just naturally tended towards.

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Old_ones wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: Tara McCarthy has left "This Week on the AltRight" She will be doing shorter videos.

What a loss.

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Brive1987 wrote:
Old_ones wrote:
Brive1987 wrote: Tara McCarthy has left "This Week on the AltRight" She will be doing shorter videos.

What a loss.

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Apt Pupil was an excellent adaptation. One of three very good movies based on Different Seasons. And The Green Mile was also very worth the time watching it

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And yes, I drive a baguette and eat a Harley Davidson every morning.

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:12 pm
Apt Pupil was an excellent adaptation. One of three very good movies based on Different Seasons. And The Green Mile was also very worth the time watching it
Yup. Different Seasons has led to three good movie adaptations of three out of four of its novellas. The Breathing Method is impossible to turn into a movie, though, that's why no one has ever even tried.

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Try GI Joe Phil it's my fave movie

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The worse adaptation of a Stephen King book is The Tommyknockers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heDRulEJ3t8

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Tommyknockers was bad. The Langoliers was horrible. Maximum Overdrive was fun.

But really, the new IT was shit.

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Kirbmarc wrote: The worse adaptation of a Stephen King book is The Tommyknockers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heDRulEJ3t8
Floppyknockers. Brutal. Based on a true story.

https://imgur.com/zNdXhbG.jpg

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Technically 'The Shining' was a bad adaptation - though not a bad movie.

It might also be a good adaptation but I've not seen the TV mini-series.

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The very concept of a Stephen King movie is implicitly a bit sad.

The premise is inviting, the realisation .. just not the same.

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I think the Alt Right is a broader church than concentrating on the national socialist wing of it suggests. It's really defined by 3 basic ideas/commitments: race realism, the JQ and the 14 words. There's no special ideological unity beyond that. Yes, there's a sizeable national socialist wing (comprised mainly of ex-Leftists, actually - unsurprisingly), but there's also a an ex-liberal/libertarian wing (which I tend towards when I'm in an Alt Right mood, as I increasingly am these days).
The alt-right is strongly associated with racism, eugenics, anti-jewish conspiracy theories, holocaust denial, Hitler/Nazi apologia, sexism (anti right to vote for women etc), anti LGBT ("degeneracy") bigotry, "white genocide" conspiracy theories, sexual Puritanism, traditionalism and, to a lesser extent, Christian apologia/theocracy. Many, such as Spencer also hold things like Democracy and freedom of speech in low esteem. Not all who identify as alt-right hold all these ideas, but they're common and the association is there. Basically, it's a garbage ideology with a lot of garbage ideas and it's going nowhere.

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The funniest thing to me is how many of these white nationalists & white ethnostate advocates don't even live up to their own racial purity ideals. Braving is half Egyptian, Tara McCarthy is part Indian, JonTron is Persian, one of the Murdoch Murdoch memers has a half-Japanese white nationalist girlfriend and I forget what else. XD Particularly funny to me, because the only person I've met IRL who had white nationalist leanings was this brown skinned Mexican kid I knew in middle school.

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Hunt wrote:
Shatterface wrote: I've never seen Firestarter.

I've never understood the fuss about Shawshank Redemption. It's not a bad movie by any means but I don't understand the adoration it gets, like it's the best movie ever.
Heretic. YOU MUST PRAISE TO HEAVEN ANYTHING MORGAN FREEMAN WAS EVER IN.
Yeah? Who died and made him God?

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Charlton Heston?

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MarcusAu wrote: Technically 'The Shining' was a bad adaptation - though not a bad movie.

It might also be a good adaptation but I've not seen the TV mini-series.
The Shining is a good Kibrick movie and a bad Kind adaptation. Whether you like it or not depends on which of the two you want. Given there are plenty of King adaptations around and too few Kubrick movies (he wasn't exactly prolific in his later years) I'm happy to take it as a Kubrick movie with only an incidental relationship to King.

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The worst King 'adaptation' was Lawnmower man. which bears no similarity to the short story whatsoever. The story is about a Greek god who mows lawns; the film is about a retard in cyberspace.

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Shatterface wrote:
Hunt wrote:
Shatterface wrote: I've never seen Firestarter.

I've never understood the fuss about Shawshank Redemption. It's not a bad movie by any means but I don't understand the adoration it gets, like it's the best movie ever.
Heretic. YOU MUST PRAISE TO HEAVEN ANYTHING MORGAN FREEMAN WAS EVER IN.
Yeah? Who died and made him God?
No, the question is who had to be raped by Harvey Weinstein in order to get Bruce Almighty made? Very different question, very different.

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Linus wrote: The funniest thing to me is how many of these white nationalists & white ethnostate advocates don't even live up to their own racial purity ideals. Braving is half Egyptian, Tara McCarthy is part Indian, JonTron is Persian, one of the Murdoch Murdoch memers has a half-Japanese white nationalist girlfriend and I forget what else. XD Particularly funny to me, because the only person I've met IRL who had white nationalist leanings was this brown skinned Mexican kid I knew in middle school.
Attention please.

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Don’t forget Tara volunteered to self deport in the advent of a pure white, one drop ethnostate coming about.

But this is the problem of a magic racially driven ethno definition being in play. I don’t see Poland obsessing over the scared white blood.

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VickyCaramel wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2018 6:30 pm
Come to think of it, I wonder how they would feel about Lenny Henry's old material?
Unamused, the normal reaction.

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ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
VickyCaramel wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2018 6:30 pm
Come to think of it, I wonder how they would feel about Lenny Henry's old material?
Unamused, the normal reaction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vWOPu5onVM

I have never been amused by Lenny Henry either, but it isn't accompanied by outrage.

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Makes sense now.
As King related in his memoir, he then sought help, quit all drugs (including alcohol) in the late 1980s, and has remained sober since. The first novel he wrote after becoming sober was Needful Things.

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Brive1987 wrote:
Linus wrote: The funniest thing to me is how many of these white nationalists & white ethnostate advocates don't even live up to their own racial purity ideals. Braving is half Egyptian, Tara McCarthy is part Indian, JonTron is Persian, one of the Murdoch Murdoch memers has a half-Japanese white nationalist girlfriend and I forget what else. XD Particularly funny to me, because the only person I've met IRL who had white nationalist leanings was this brown skinned Mexican kid I knew in middle school.
Attention please.

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Why do white nationalists look so much like hipsters?

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Or why do hipsters look like white nationalists?

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Linus wrote:
I think the Alt Right is a broader church than concentrating on the national socialist wing of it suggests. It's really defined by 3 basic ideas/commitments: race realism, the JQ and the 14 words. There's no special ideological unity beyond that. Yes, there's a sizeable national socialist wing (comprised mainly of ex-Leftists, actually - unsurprisingly), but there's also a an ex-liberal/libertarian wing (which I tend towards when I'm in an Alt Right mood, as I increasingly am these days).
The alt-right is strongly associated with racism, eugenics, anti-jewish conspiracy theories, holocaust denial, Hitler/Nazi apologia, sexism (anti right to vote for women etc), anti LGBT ("degeneracy") bigotry, "white genocide" conspiracy theories, sexual Puritanism, traditionalism and, to a lesser extent, Christian apologia/theocracy. Many, such as Spencer also hold things like Democracy and freedom of speech in low esteem. Not all who identify as alt-right hold all these ideas, but they're common and the association is there. Basically, it's a garbage ideology with a lot of garbage ideas and it's going nowhere.
Yup. The true alt-right (meaning people who call themselves alt-right, not just those who are called alt-right by pathetic losers like PZ Myers or the SocJus fans) is an authoritarian identitarian movement obsessed with people's ethnic origins. The other stuff you write about are intrinsically part of its discourse, no matter how the "alt-light" wants to distance itself from them.

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Audio is NSFW & NS for the little kiddies.

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Brive1987 wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:39 pm
I have long ago given up on YouTube as any sort of source of truth. I tease out useful ideas and identify weaknesses and judge the skill and value of the delivery on a propaganda basis. The whole alt-right, alt-lite, new right, civic/ethno, thot debate is intriguing.
That makes a lot of sense to me and I should probably adopt a view that is similar. I still take YouTube much too seriously, despite the repeated disappointments.

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Shatterface wrote: I've never seen Firestarter.

I've never understood the fuss about Shawshank Redemption. It's not a bad movie by any means but I don't understand the adoration it gets, like it's the best movie ever.
George C. Scott plays an American Indian. See it before it is erased from history.

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gurugeorge wrote: Incidentally, I had a brainstorm the other day: socialism is actually Right-wing, national socialism is the true native form of it.
When you project a multi-dimensional space onto a single axis, you can have brainstorms of this sort almost every day.

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Two british blokes spotted in the wild. Conversation overheard in carpark.


Bloke A: "Good too see you again mate."

Bloke B: "Yeah, we will have to stay in touch. Are you on Facebook?"

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Bloke B: "Great, I'll be there."

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Shatterface wrote:
MarcusAu wrote: Technically 'The Shining' was a bad adaptation - though not a bad movie.

It might also be a good adaptation but I've not seen the TV mini-series.
The Shining is a good Kibrick movie and a bad Kind adaptation. Whether you like it or not depends on which of the two you want. Given there are plenty of King adaptations around and too few Kubrick movies (he wasn't exactly prolific in his later years) I'm happy to take it as a Kubrick movie with only an incidental relationship to King.
Most of what Kubrick did was crap. The Shining was no exception. End of story.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObOUYc5BGnQ

I have just been watching TWIS and Sargon starts off with the CNN cuckolding story, which hearing it read out loud somehow sounds even more ridiculous and completely dishonest. To have a sex therapist saying it can be part of a healthy relationship is fucking insane.

For them to also say that some men find this sexually arousing is sophistry.

Cuckolding is masochism. It is is a fetish which falls under a category where people are chasing intensity of feelings, often they link this with sexual arousal but not always. Essentially cuckolding has all the normal humiliation you would associate with this branch of masochism but also throws jealousy and hatred into the mix which are incredibly powerful emotions. There is an extra element which can make this sexually arousing whereby men have an instinct to reclaim their wife's womb by raping her.

So they are trying to trick men into one of the most extreme forms of masochism by pretending that it isn't masochism, it is perfectly healthy, normal and liberating. And of course it is fashionable, for the thinking man, and it politically right-on.

A few years ago we had a discussion here about how SJWs were ruining BDSM. One fetish they were unsurprisingly keen on was Financial Domination. The similarity is that the victim has his bank account cleaned out and is left in financial trouble, having to explain to his wife where all their money has gone.... it is self destructive behaviour but it's intense! It is more like having a gambling addiction than having a kink.

It is absolutely ridiculous to pretend that all sexual behaviour is healthy.... but California just decriminalized the spreading of HIV so what do you expect?

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BillHampReturns wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:34 am
Most of what Kubrick did was crap. The Shining was no exception. End of story.
I thought that the work that he did for NASA in the late 1960s was pretty good.

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Billie from Ockham wrote:
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BillHampReturns wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:34 am
Most of what Kubrick did was crap. The Shining was no exception. End of story.
I thought that the work that he did for NASA in the late 1960s was pretty good.
He was such a perfectionist he insisted on filming it on location.

But there will always be Dr. Strangelove.

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:07 am
Billie from Ockham wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:56 am
BillHampReturns wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:34 am
Most of what Kubrick did was crap. The Shining was no exception. End of story.
I thought that the work that he did for NASA in the late 1960s was pretty good.
He was such a perfectionist he insisted on filming it on location.
Touché!

(That's French, by the way.)

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Peterson thinks "Crumb" is the best documentary he's ever seen.
Says: "If you really want to know what a rapist thinks, watch that"


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Ape+lust wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote: The worse adaptation of a Stephen King book is The Tommyknockers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heDRulEJ3t8
Floppyknockers. Brutal. Based on a true story.

https://imgur.com/zNdXhbG.jpg
Truly terrifying :o From the gender studies department straight into your nightmares!

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Has anybody else noticed there seems to be some weird push in the UK to bring back public drinking fountains?

In my youth, there were always rumours that somebody had pissed all over the drinking area, or smeared snot, bogies, faeces or cum all over the tap. That made an impact on the young Commander, and I have avoided public drinking fountains since.

Saying that, I agree that overpriced mineral water in plastic bottles is a waste.


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If you believe that your childhood imaginings ruined public drinking fountains, Commander, then just wait until Becky Watson's next twitter poll.



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