Periodic Table of Swearing

[codelette]

Pftt. Atkins? My low-carb god is Brillat Savarin, bitch.

I see, no true-carb. What's your homeopathy, again?

My homeopathy are my rock-hard abs.
BTW, last I checked sweet potatoes are carbs. That was part of dinner yesterday. :)

[another lurker]

https://www.google.ca/search?q=kate+upt ... igKO54GwAQ

My WCOA approves of this google search.
That is all.

Clearly you have no taste. You should only be allowed to approve of the bodies and faces of the women who hate kate upton!

:P

[Skep tickle]

... The biggest problem is that women don't realize that men(just like women) have different tastes. Some men like big breasts, some like small breasts(I do!). Some like blondes, some like brunettes, or red heads, some like big booties, some don’t, etc.

The point is that no matter what you look like, there is probably someone out there that thinks your perfect (or you’re their type). Women need to enjoy what they have, and not wish their curly hair was straight, or their small boobs were big boobs!

I really wish women would understand that!

Sex is basically a marketplace, just like any other. If you aren't getting enough sex, it simply means you aren't meeting what the marketplace demands, that's all. You aren't going to get anywhere by bitching about the marketplace. Getting laid is not an entitlement.

Yeah, but how much does curly/straight hair (on one's head), hair color, breast size, or penis size have to do with changes of getting laid?

[Skep tickle]

She must be an atheist to write this:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamo ... giality-2/

you can't be that hypocritical and fear a hell.

Oh, that's funny. I think her nose just grew a few inches :liar:

[Altair]

Clearly you have no taste. You should only be allowed to approve of the bodies and faces of the women who hate kate upton!

:P

Damn my privilege! I'll repent and go read feminism 101 ... after I finish clicking on some of those pictures for .... uhm, reasons! :icon-wink:

[decius]

Pftt. Atkins? My low-carb god is Brillat Savarin, bitch.

I see, no true-carb. What's your homeopathy, again?

My homeopathy are my rock-hard abs.
BTW, last I checked sweet potatoes are carbs. That was part of dinner yesterday. :)

Good on you, mate. So, if you exercise and don't wage jihad against the eeevil magic food that makes you fat, why do you want to give the impression that you promote quackery? People do still believe that crap by the shitload and shouldn't be encouraged in their delusions.

Atkins died an obese (a rich one, because he scammed generations of gullible faddists). Let everyone know.

[papillon]

Gack. This comes across as "mansplaining", for me.

I've got plenty of self-confidence, always have had - and am pretty low-maintenance, for convenience sake. If I'm wishing my hair would behave differently, it's not because I'm worried whether or not some man will think I'm "perfect" (or "their type"). But then I haven't been on the dating scene for >20 yrs. Possibly others' mileage may vary wrt your advice.

Truth be told, some of it (for me) is how other women may see me, but I see that as more of a practical matter, given how much most women tend to value social cues.

I have to confess, for twenty years I've been a part of the machine that first creates and propagates ideas and images of women, that for the most part are largely unattainable for the average woman.
Once these impossible ideals are fixed in the mind, then I help them spend their money chasing the ideals I helped create. Cynical? just a bit, but meh, gotta pay the bills and the punters seem happy enough.
As far as all this effort and money being spent to appeal to men's sense of what is and isn't beautiful. I agree with Skep Tickle. Teh menz don't come into it, other women are who most want to impress/make envious.
As a straight man, seeing through the whole charade, I can say that for me, a confidant woman at ease with herself is way more appealing to me than the neurotic image obsessed types. YMMV.

[ERV]

(snipped to make Franc happy!)
I'm still very convinced that having my tachycardia "fixed" and the insertion of a pacemaker

Renee your a cyborg :o

COOL!!! :D

:D Yep! My guy has asked if, when I have the newest model put in ('bout 6-7 years), he could have a remote so he could fast-forward, back-me-up, mute me, etc.

6-7 years hopefully we will be putting a virus in you, growing new pacemaker cells from your own heart cells :-D

[TheMan]

[spoiler]

(snipped to make Franc happy!)
I'm still very convinced that having my tachycardia "fixed" and the insertion of a pacemaker

Renee your a cyborg :o

COOL!!! :D

:D Yep! My guy has asked if, when I have the newest model put in ('bout 6-7 years), he could have a remote so he could fast-forward, back-me-up, mute me, etc.

[/spoiler]

cyborg seems too cold for you...whereas 6 of 9 sounds like there is a history....

Maybe you will allow me to call you 6 of 9 from now on.... I have a specially prepared 6 of 9 outfit you can squeeze into.

Shit! That outfit would kill me.

[spoiler]http://www.posterplanet.net/startrek/im ... silver.jpg[/spoiler]

No worries...you can wear the spray-on version..... :)

[JackRayner]

You can't lie to yourself about hardly eating or eating significantly less. It would have to be a bold faced lie.

Yes they can. There's people who count all the calories in their meals and still chug down a 2 litre bottle of coke per day. Then they get on the internet and think that this proves diet/excersize doesn't work for them.

Make that a Diet Coke. :whistle:

Seriously, it really pisses me off when I'm out with friends and we're all hogging out [No shame in my game. It takes a conscious effort for me to gain weight thought] and then one of the motherfuckers gets a Diet fucking Coke. What. The FUCK. http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x17/ ... 913f57.gif

When I point this out they almost always retort with "I like how it tastes"..... ... ... By then I'm just ready to facepalm myself unconscious.

[Skep tickle]

The biggest problem is that women don't realize that men(just like women) have different tastes. Some men like big breasts, some like small breasts(I do!). Some like blondes, some like brunettes, or red heads, some like big booties, some don’t, etc.

The point is that no matter what you look like, there is probably someone out there that thinks your perfect (or you’re their type). Women need to enjoy what they have, and not wish their curly hair was straight, or their small boobs were big boobs!

I really wish women would understand that!

Gack. This comes across as "mansplaining", for me. ...

Yes, perhaps I phrased It poorly. Didn’t want it to seem like mansplaining. Just that a lot of women I’ve known said that they hated this or that about themselves. The ones with straight hair wanted curly hair/the ones with curly hair wanted straight hair, etc. I’ve never met a man that said similar things. (although I’m sure there are some). Just advocating your type of personality :) (just my experiences/annecdotes).

It's the difference between:

• "I like looking at x, y, and z in [gender you are attracted to]" - that's purely a statement of your opinion; go for it
• "[People who share my sexual orientation and gender identification] like looking at x, y, and z in [gender we are attracted to]" - that's a statement purporting fact which, depending on what you list for x, y, and z, may be accepted, rejected, or challenged
• "[Gender I/we am/are attracted to] doesn't realize & should understand that [people who share my sexual orientation and gender identification] like looking at x, y, and z in [attraction-recipient gender]." - you're assuming lack of knowledge about the statement 1 above on the list, and inserting the is/ought problem by asserting the duty or obligation for others to accept that statement & to value it

Apologies, I'm apparently in a pissy mood. :o

[comslave]

http://c0014314.r32.cf1.rackcdn.com/x2_c84904e

Somewhere there has to be weight to feminism ratio...

[ReneeHendricks]

6-7 years hopefully we will be putting a virus in you, growing new pacemaker cells from your own heart cells :-D

Very cool! However, as a person who had RF ablation done *very* early on (meaning, it was a new procedure when I had it done) to take care of my tachycardia, I was treated to a tiny portion of my heart being damaged that, it turns out, regulates my heart beat. I'm sure I'm over-simplifying this but I ended up losing a heart beat. At night, my heart rate would go down to about 30 beats (sometimes less) at night and no anesthesiologist would touch me with a ten-foot pole. During the day, even after a quick sprint, my heart rate wouldn't go above 40 beats a minute. Sooooo - I'm a bit of a scaredy-cat when it comes to new shit.

[Rystefn]

I don't know who this idiot Marilove is, but according to my college phys ed teacher, it is that fucking simple. There's something called the "basil metabolic minimum" of calorie intake. The smallest amount of calories you need to keep you alive. If you can keep your food intake to that level, you automatically lose weight without killing yourself.

In the meantime, I go to the gym 6-7 times a week. It seems to work for me.

You never addressed the fact that they claim that it isn't working for them. Do you either 1 - believe that they are lying, or 2 - think they need to change something in their plan?

Because yeah, I've known of people try eating omgless and exercise and it not work. Sometimes they aren't eating enough (slowed down their metabolism... and the exercise wasn't hard enough to speed it back up, didn't eat any metabolism highering foods), and sometimes they have a thyroid problem where they aren't supposed to eat as much as normal people - (2k calories a day) and still stay a good weight.. and they don't realize they aren't "not eating" enough. (Does thyroid medication help with that so they can enjoy eating as much as a normal person?)

I'll take "lying their ass off". I have a cousin who claims to be doing Weight Watchers. She's supposed to watch what she eats, and yet at every gathering I've seen her at, she's on top of the cake and ice cream like she was trying to make babies with it.

People, by and large, are unwilling to admit their own parts in their health, or lack thereof.

I've a friend who runs a boot camp style program, now in Cali, used to be in Mass. We were talking once about being in shape, and I said "Well, I KNOW why I'm out of shape", and she got this smile like "Oh here we go" and asked "Okay, why?"

"Because I'm fucking lazy. I eat more than I should, I tend to eat crap, and I don't exercise enough. When I pay attention to such things and manage them appropriately, I'm not out of shape."

She just starts laughing and says "That may be the first time I've ever gotten an honest admission of guilt for that."

I said "Well, there ARE cases where there's something wrong with things like the thyroid and such, but for the most part, it's being "unable" to get through the day without a big fucking slice of cake. Losing weight isn't complicated, it just takes more work than people want to do."

So yeah. I go with lying. Usually to themselves.

No shit. I always used to joke about how I was a fat guy on the inside. Now that I've got money, people around me that remind me to eat regularly, and no specific need or obligation to regular strenuous exercise, I've become a bit of a fat guy on the outside. I could fix it if I cared enough, but fuck it. I like food, I'm in good enough shape to do the things I like to do without passing out from exhaustion, and it doesn't seem to be interfering with me getting laid, so I lack the motivation to overcome my laziness. The overwhelming majority of people are fat and "can't" lose weight have a lifestyle inertia problem, not a health problem. The difference between me and them is that I don't pretend I can't lose weight. I know exactly the lifestyle that makes me skinny as fuck. I choose this lifestyle because I prefer it.

[codelette]

Pftt. Atkins? My low-carb god is Brillat Savarin, bitch.

I see, no true-carb. What's your homeopathy, again?

My homeopathy are my rock-hard abs.
BTW, last I checked sweet potatoes are carbs. That was part of dinner yesterday. :)

Good on you, mate. So, if you exercise and don't wage jihad against the eeevil magic food that makes you fat, why do you want to give the impression that you promote quackery? People do still believe that crap by the shitload and shouldn't be encouraged in their delusions.

Atkins died an obese (a rich one, because he scammed generations of gullible faddists). Let everyone know.

One of several studies for your eyes only, dear.

[31] Frederick F. Samaha, M.D., Nayyar Iqbal, M.D., Prakash Seshadri, M.D., Kathryn L. Chicano, C.R.N.P., Denise A. Daily, R.D., Joyce McGrory, C.R.N.P., Terrence Williams, B.S., Monica Williams, B.S., Edward J. Gracely, Ph. D., and Linda Stern, M.D. (2003). "A Low-Carbohydrate as Compared with a Low-Fat Diet in Severe Obesity". New England Journal of Medicine 348 (21): 2074–81. doi:10.1056/NEJMoa022637. PMID 12761364.

(Study conclude that people lost more weight while on low-carb diet and something else about awesome blood sugar levels)

Atkins was hardly obese. He was a 70something dude, 6 feet tall that 190 pounds before hitting his head with the sidewalk and went into a coma.

PS. BTW, I don't do Atkins. I don't need it. That was a diet design for fat asses with fucked up hearts.

[TheMan]

[spoiler]

(snipped to make Franc happy!)
I'm still very convinced that having my tachycardia "fixed" and the insertion of a pacemaker

Renee your a cyborg :o

COOL!!! :D

:D Yep! My guy has asked if, when I have the newest model put in ('bout 6-7 years), he could have a remote so he could fast-forward, back-me-up, mute me, etc.

[/spoiler]
6-7 years hopefully we will be putting a virus in you, growing new pacemaker cells from your own heart cells :-D

Is it really that close? so... I can start smoking again and should my lungs become so damaged before I die in a car accident I can put an order in for new ones? I have a feeling it'll be a further 15 years before the re-generation of body parts is common enough to claim on Medicare

[JackRayner]

... The biggest problem is that women don't realize that men(just like women) have different tastes. Some men like big breasts, some like small breasts(I do!). Some like blondes, some like brunettes, or red heads, some like big booties, some don’t, etc.

The point is that no matter what you look like, there is probably someone out there that thinks your perfect (or you’re their type). Women need to enjoy what they have, and not wish their curly hair was straight, or their small boobs were big boobs!

I really wish women would understand that!

Sex is basically a marketplace, just like any other. If you aren't getting enough sex, it simply means you aren't meeting what the marketplace demands, that's all. You aren't going to get anywhere by bitching about the marketplace. Getting laid is not an entitlement.

Yeah, but how much does curly/straight hair (on one's head), hair color, breast size, or penis size have to do with changes of getting laid?

If any of these are given perceived as having more value by a greater number of the people in your culture/area, then having any of these will increase your value and probably get you laid more.

[welch]

Aaaannnd, apologies for spelling your name incorrectly, Mr. Welch.

No worries. It happens more than you'd think.

[TheMan]

[spoiler]

(snipped to make Franc happy!)
I'm still very convinced that having my tachycardia "fixed" and the insertion of a pacemaker

Renee your a cyborg :o

COOL!!! :D

:D Yep! My guy has asked if, when I have the newest model put in ('bout 6-7 years), he could have a remote so he could fast-forward, back-me-up, mute me, etc.

[/spoiler]
6-7 years hopefully we will be putting a virus in you, growing new pacemaker cells from your own heart cells :-D

Is it really that close? so... I can start smoking again and should my lungs become so damaged before I die in a car accident I can put an order in for new ones? I have a feeling it'll be a further 15 years before the re-generation of body parts is common enough to claim on Medicare

ooops! I think I have the cures mixed up with something else.

[welch]

http://c0014314.r32.cf1.rackcdn.com/x2_c84904e

Somewhere there has to be weight to feminism ratio...

ALso, could she look any more uptight? I mean seriously, she makes my lower back hurt just looking at her.

[JackRayner]

Sex is basically a marketplace, just like any other. If you aren't getting enough sex, it simply means you aren't meeting what the marketplace demands, that's all. You aren't going to get anywhere by bitching about the marketplace. Getting laid is not an entitlement.

Yeah, but how much does curly/straight hair (on one's head), hair color, breast size, or penis size have to do with changes of getting laid?

If any of these are given perceived as having more value by a greater number of the people in your culture/area, then having any of these will increase your value and probably get you laid more.[/quote]

Strike that "given". It's a remnant of sloppy editing.

[somedumbguy]

Nice to see Atkin's low-carb pseudo-science rearing its ugly head also here.

Get a fucking skeptical and scientific clue and stop listening to unqualified charlatans like Taubes.


http://www.quackwatch.org/06ResearchProjects/lcd.html

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/ind ... or-dinner/

Hey guess what decius, it's not 2008 any longer. The question is, how would Harriet Hall evaluate the papers and evidence now? Same thing with the quackwatch paper.

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/ind ... -get-thin/

This is from last year, but it's her critique of one person's paper more than it is a critique of low carb dieting. I would be interested in hearing her debate Michael Eades, MD, and Peter Attia, MD and reading about her critique of their work and papers at NuSI.

[TheMan]

[spoiler]

... The biggest problem is that women don't realize that men(just like women) have different tastes. Some men like big breasts, some like small breasts(I do!). Some like blondes, some like brunettes, or red heads, some like big booties, some don’t, etc.

The point is that no matter what you look like, there is probably someone out there that thinks your perfect (or you’re their type). Women need to enjoy what they have, and not wish their curly hair was straight, or their small boobs were big boobs!

I really wish women would understand that!

Sex is basically a marketplace, just like any other. If you aren't getting enough sex, it simply means you aren't meeting what the marketplace demands, that's all. You aren't going to get anywhere by bitching about the marketplace. Getting laid is not an entitlement.

Yeah, but how much does curly/straight hair (on one's head), hair color, breast size, or penis size have to do with changes of getting laid?

[/spoiler]

If any of these are given perceived as having more value by a greater number of the people in your culture/area, then having any of these will increase your value and probably get you laid more.

Correct!... David Cassidy was a case in point. Before Mr Cassidy the favoured look circa mid 70's here in Sydney was the surfy type blond-hair/blue eyes. No person of the opposite sex would give me time of day. David changed all that and a centre hair part wasn't "poofta" any more.

while the fad only lasted till the bay City Rollers came to town...and I wouldn't get away with Tartan flared pants (I got away with pink paisley flares instead) it at least made me more acceptable there after and the future looked bright. (not that there was an explosion of furious electric socket type sex after Cassidy...that for me, came much later)

[decius]

One of several studies for your eyes only, dear.
[31] Frederick F. Samaha, M.D., Nayyar Iqbal, M.D., Prakash Seshadri, M.D., Kathryn L. Chicano, C.R.N.P., Denise A. Daily, R.D., Joyce McGrory, C.R.N.P., Terrence Williams, B.S., Monica Williams, B.S., Edward J. Gracely, Ph. D., and Linda Stern, M.D. (2003). "A Low-Carbohydrate as Compared with a Low-Fat Diet in Severe Obesity". New England Journal of Medicine 348 (21): 2074–81. doi:10.1056/NEJMoa022637. PMID 12761364.
(Study conclude that people lost more weight while on low-carb diet and something else about awesome blood sugar levels)

OK, if you're serious, we need to engage.

Firstly, it doesn't work that way, sorry. You don't get to cherry-pick one study on a very small sample (with disclaimer to that effect) that seems to agree with your desired conclusion.
Particularly as a non-expert, you need to look at the scientific consensus. This applies to all disciplines, not just medicine.

However, that study doesn't even contradict, and is included into, large meta-studies, which have established how low-carb diets do make weight loss faster on the short term, but are spectacularly unsuccessful on the long term. There are also perfectly plausible explanations for this phenomenon. Please, do investigate this on your own or refer to reputable skepitcs such as Steven Novella and Harriet Hall.

Atkins was hardly obese. He was a 70something dude, 6 feet tall that 190 pounds before hitting his head with the sidewalk and went into a coma.

PS. BTW, I don't do Atkins. I don't need it. That was a diet design for fat asses with fucked up hearts.

Nope, sorry. http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/5822.php

[somedumbguy]

Taslima Nasreen on her FfTB soapbox today:

All men everywhere are rapists and misogynists.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/taslima/201 ... verywhere/

Men are the same everywhere!

Steubenville football team players kidnapped, raped and urinated on a 16-year-old girl. But instead of blaming the players, former students blamed the girl. They were laughing as they were talking about her. Men love rape jokes. They verbally rape the girls who are already raped.

We haven’t finished protesting against brutal gang rape in India. Indian society is deeply misogynistic. If the boys were Indian, we could have said, ‘it’s their cultural upbringing and socialization’. But the boys in the video are North American. Women, we all know, is much safer in North America than India. But the bitter truth is, misogynists are everywhere, they are in the North, in the South, in the West and in the East. And Men, unfortunately, educated or illiterate, rich or poor, young of old, black or white, are more or less the same everywhere.

[Skep tickle]

Sex is basically a marketplace, just like any other. If you aren't getting enough sex, it simply means you aren't meeting what the marketplace demands, that's all. You aren't going to get anywhere by bitching about the marketplace. Getting laid is not an entitlement.

Yeah, but how much does curly/straight hair (on one's head), hair color, breast size, or penis size have to do with changes of getting laid?

If any of these are perceived as having more value by a greater number of the people in your culture/area, then having any of these will increase your value and probably get you laid more.[/quote]
Yeah, but there's so much more to it than that. Behavior, opportunity, inclination, inhibitions, use of disinhibiting agents, etc. Big-breasted shy woman who spends her time reading in a corner of the library is less likely to get laid that day than a small-breasted extrovert who drinks at the pub and strikes up conversations with guys.

[Rystefn]

cyborg seems too cold for you...whereas 6 of 9 sounds like there is a history....

Maybe you will allow me to call you 6 of 9 from now on.... I have a specially prepared 6 of 9 outfit you can squeeze into.

Shit! That outfit would kill me.

[spoiler]http://www.posterplanet.net/startrek/im ... silver.jpg[/spoiler]

No worries...you can wear the spray-on version..... :)

I completely support this statement and will chip in for the paint.

[EdgePenguin]

Taslima Nasreen on her FfTB soapbox today:

All men everywhere are rapists and misogynists.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/taslima/201 ... verywhere/

Men are the same everywhere!

Steubenville football team players kidnapped, raped and urinated on a 16-year-old girl. But instead of blaming the players, former students blamed the girl. They were laughing as they were talking about her. Men love rape jokes. They verbally rape the girls who are already raped.

We haven’t finished protesting against brutal gang rape in India. Indian society is deeply misogynistic. If the boys were Indian, we could have said, ‘it’s their cultural upbringing and socialization’. But the boys in the video are North American. Women, we all know, is much safer in North America than India. But the bitter truth is, misogynists are everywhere, they are in the North, in the South, in the West and in the East. And Men, unfortunately, educated or illiterate, rich or poor, young of old, black or white, are more or less the same everywhere.

This is the kind of rant that is normally delivered by a tearful woman who has finished off a bottle of wine and/or a tub of ice cream.

[Pitchguest]

Is it really that close? so... I can start smoking again and should my lungs become so damaged before I die in a car accident I can put an order in for new ones? I have a feeling it'll be a further 15 years before the re-generation of body parts is common enough to claim on Medicare

You can start smoking these: http://www.smartsmoke.org/

[Skep tickle]

Taslima Nasreen on her FfTB soapbox today:

All men everywhere are rapists and misogynists.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/taslima/201 ... verywhere/

Men are the same everywhere!

...But the bitter truth is, misogynists are everywhere, they are in the North, in the South, in the West and in the East. And Men, unfortunately, educated or illiterate, rich or poor, young of old, black or white, are more or less the same everywhere.

Uh-oh. Someone better fill her in on the latest decree from Pharyngulite nightshadequeen:

To me, being a [man]/not being a [man] is something someone decides, conciously or not, to be or not to be. ... not defining [man & woman] is the best I can do at defining [man & woman].

(as quoted here: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=73&p=44497#p44497)

So: which of them is the truer rad-fem?

[Eucliwood]

Taslima Nasreen on her FfTB soapbox today:

All men everywhere are rapists and misogynists.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/taslima/201 ... verywhere/

Men are the same everywhere!

Steubenville football team players kidnapped, raped and urinated on a 16-year-old girl. But instead of blaming the players, former students blamed the girl. They were laughing as they were talking about her. Men love rape jokes. They verbally rape the girls who are already raped.

We haven’t finished protesting against brutal gang rape in India. Indian society is deeply misogynistic. If the boys were Indian, we could have said, ‘it’s their cultural upbringing and socialization’. But the boys in the video are North American. Women, we all know, is much safer in North America than India. But the bitter truth is, misogynists are everywhere, they are in the North, in the South, in the West and in the East. And Men, unfortunately, educated or illiterate, rich or poor, young of old, black or white, are more or less the same everywhere.

This is the kind of rant that is normally delivered by a tearful woman who has finished off a bottle of wine and/or a tub of ice cream.

Wow, are you serious? Where does she post that at? She talks about misogyny and then goes on being a total misandrist... Sexism disgusts me, no matter which way it goes :/ upsetting post.

[decius]

Hey guess what decius, it's not 2008 any longer. The question is, how would Harriet Hall evaluate the papers and evidence now? Same thing with the quackwatch paper.

Thanks, I'm aware of that. Did you know that the first law of thermodynamics hasn't been suppressed since?

FYI, Quackwatch and SBM do keep up to date and if a paradigm shift were approaching, those upright defender of the scientific method would be the first to acknowledge it.
There are more recent articles, just a few clicks away, for you to discover.

However, removing the blinkers of cognitive bias is mandatory, on one's path away from pseudoscience.

http://theness.com/neurologicablog/inde ... -calories/
http://theness.com/neurologicablog/inde ... carb-diet/
http://theness.com/neurologicablog/inde ... -epidemic/

[Maximus]

@Skep tickle, aaaah I get it now, it was sloppy phrasing on my part, appologies. I really don't understand a lot of the feminist jargon. Thanks for personsplaining it for me.

[Skep tickle]

Taslima Nasreen on her FfTB soapbox today: ...

-> http://freethoughtblogs.com/taslima/201 ... verywhere/<- ...

Wow, are you serious? Where does she post that at? ...

:whistle:

[another lurker]

Taslima Nasreen on her FfTB soapbox today:

All men everywhere are rapists and misogynists.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/taslima/201 ... verywhere/

Men are the same everywhere!

Steubenville football team players kidnapped, raped and urinated on a 16-year-old girl. But instead of blaming the players, former students blamed the girl. They were laughing as they were talking about her. Men love rape jokes. They verbally rape the girls who are already raped.

We haven’t finished protesting against brutal gang rape in India. Indian society is deeply misogynistic. If the boys were Indian, we could have said, ‘it’s their cultural upbringing and socialization’. But the boys in the video are North American. Women, we all know, is much safer in North America than India. But the bitter truth is, misogynists are everywhere, they are in the North, in the South, in the West and in the East. And Men, unfortunately, educated or illiterate, rich or poor, young of old, black or white, are more or less the same everywhere.

She lost a lot of credibility when she made fun of a man who was raped by 6 women, or something.

http://dailypost.com.ng/2012/07/18/six- ... nue-state/

She made light of it, b/c in her mind, only women can ever be victims.

Consent is consent, doesn't matter if its man/man man/woman woman/man woman/woman.

[KarlVonMox]

Taslima Nasreen on her FfTB soapbox today:

All men everywhere are rapists and misogynists.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/taslima/201 ... verywhere/

Men are the same everywhere!

Steubenville football team players kidnapped, raped and urinated on a 16-year-old girl. But instead of blaming the players, former students blamed the girl. They were laughing as they were talking about her. Men love rape jokes. They verbally rape the girls who are already raped.

We haven’t finished protesting against brutal gang rape in India. Indian society is deeply misogynistic. If the boys were Indian, we could have said, ‘it’s their cultural upbringing and socialization’. But the boys in the video are North American. Women, we all know, is much safer in North America than India. But the bitter truth is, misogynists are everywhere, they are in the North, in the South, in the West and in the East. And Men, unfortunately, educated or illiterate, rich or poor, young of old, black or white, are more or less the same everywhere.

This is nothing short of disgusting. They would be the first to cry out against any negative gender stereotype about women, even if its implied. And yet sweeping generalizations about all men being rapists everywhere is encouraged.

[Skep tickle]

@Skep tickle, aaaah I get it now, it was sloppy phrasing on my part, appologies. I really don't understand a lot of the feminist jargon. Thanks for personsplaining it for me.

My take on it was, I hope, skeptical rather than feminist... :D

[BarnOwl]

I honestly wish Heina and the other FtB/Skepchick/A+ types all the best in their quests for weight loss and better health. Really, I do - if nothing else, it's selfish best interest to do so for those who, like me, are Merkins, because the consequences of poor lifestyle choices consume taxpayer dollars and drive up the cost of healthcare for everyone. Different strategies work for different people: a moderate carb/low fat diet, combined with running and weights, works for me. I joined a local running club for support, motivation, and advice, and after less than a month, I'm running 10 to 14 miles per week, with the goal of running a half-marathon this fall. Running works extremely well for me, to get weight off and keep it off, but it's not for everyone.

Abbie has expressed her well wishes for good health and offered fitness advice to all and sundry on several occasions that I can recall. This has included even those "enemies" - notably PZ after his stent procedure - who insult and berate her repeatedly, want to ban her from conferences as "dangerous," and who would probably spit gobbets of their insane resentment on her in person, if only they had the gonads to do so. Probably none of us here at the SlymePit wishes any physical or mental ill health or harm on those FtB/Skepchick/A+ folk who paint us as dangerous misogynists. So y'all need to get a grip and give that victim mentality the boot - your health status is not going to improve until you take full responsibility for your own actions and inactions, and git 'er done.

[Skep tickle]

She lost a lot of credibility when she made fun of a man who was raped by 6 women, or something.

http://dailypost.com.ng/2012/07/18/six- ... nue-state/

She made light of it, b/c in her mind, only women can ever be victims.

Consent is consent, doesn't matter if its man/man man/woman woman/man woman/woman.

Do you have a link to that? I'm not finding it on a quick search at her site.

[JackRayner]

Yeah, but how much does curly/straight hair (on one's head), hair color, breast size, or penis size have to do with changes of getting laid?

If any of these are perceived as having more value by a greater number of the people in your culture/area, then having any of these will increase your value and probably get you laid more.

Yeah, but there's so much more to it than that. Behavior, opportunity, inclination, inhibitions, use of disinhibiting agents, etc. Big-breasted shy woman who spends her time reading in a corner of the library is less likely to get laid that day than a small-breasted extrovert who drinks at the pub and strikes up conversations with guys.

[Sorry about my quote fail that you inherrited. I'll try to fix it so it stops here.]

Ah, better. Okay, on to the post:

Of course these things are relative, and the rest of a person's other traits will decide their subjective attractiveness to each individual, but I would have thought this wouldn't need to be spelled out.

I have a friend whose reaction to blonde women is literally "Ew". In the hypothetical that there are two women he finds nearly identically attractive standing side by side, and who are receptive to his advance, the brunette/red head is going to beat the blonde.

We really don't need to bust out our calculators or consider things like the butterfly effect over such a mundane statement.

[somedumbguy]

Hey guess what decius, it's not 2008 any longer. The question is, how would Harriet Hall evaluate the papers and evidence now? Same thing with the quackwatch paper.

Thanks, I'm aware of that. Did you know that the first law of thermodynamics hasn't been suppressed since?

Find my post. It is clear that Thermodynamics is not repealed. But you fail to recognize that a heat calorie is not the same as a food calorie.

Come back with links that address my post.

FYI, Quackwatch and SBM do keep up to date and if a paradigm shift were approaching, those upright defender of the scientific method would be the first to acknowledge it.

Good! Then stop submitting the same articles from them from 2008.

There are more recent articles, just a few clicks away, for you to discover.

However, removing the blinkers of cognitive bias is mandatory, on one's path away from pseudoscience.

http://theness.com/neurologicablog/inde ... -calories/
http://theness.com/neurologicablog/inde ... carb-diet/
http://theness.com/neurologicablog/inde ... -epidemic/

A lot of Steven Novella's message does not conflict with Attia or Eades:

Eat a varied diet, mostly plant-based

- Limit carbohydrates with a high glycemic index (simple sugars and starches)

- Do not diet for weight loss. Rather, employ reasonable portion control and exercise regularly.

- Whatever you do for weight control, make sure it is sustainable long term. You should be happy with your diet and exercise should be fun and convenient. Anything that seems burdensome will likely not last and be of no long term utility.

- And most importantly – completely ignore diet fads, diet books, or any product that promises easy weight loss. They are scams.

And yet, this shows he is not aware of their argument for low carb, and so arguing apples and oranges. Remember: their argument is that increasing the fat will decrease hunger, but they are claiming you can eat "more than your basal calories" because a high fat high protein diet activates entirely different biochemical pathways altogether.

Apparent advantages of low-carb diets are likely related to decreased hunger, which results in decreased caloric intake – but this effect is short term (3-6 months at most) and there is no long term advantage.

Go mine some quotes that directly take on Attia and Eades.

[welch]

Melody's husband may in fact be the worst defender in human history.

[Skep tickle]

Taslima Nasreen on her FfTB soapbox today:

All men everywhere are rapists and misogynists.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/taslima/201 ... verywhere/ ...

She lost a lot of credibility when she made fun of a man who was raped by 6 women, or something.

http://dailypost.com.ng/2012/07/18/six- ... nue-state/

She made light of it, b/c in her mind, only women can ever be victims.

Consent is consent, doesn't matter if its man/man man/woman woman/man woman/woman.

Well, wherever else she's said it in the past, it's one she tweeted about just 6 hrs ago:
http://i.imgur.com/d90ib.png

[Altair]

This is nothing short of disgusting. They would be the first to cry out against any negative gender stereotype about women, even if its implied. And yet sweeping generalizations about all men being rapists everywhere is encouraged.

I don't know what I find more disgusting, the original post or how 2 (apparently male) posters berate and attack badgersdaughter (female) and olivercrangle (male) for having the temerity of saying there are good kind men out there and identifying Taslima's post as the stereotyping it
is.

So a teenage girl is drugged, publicly raped and humiliated, the perpetrators are being defended because of their privileged status as football players…

…and olivercrangle thinks the important thing to get upset about is the title of the post?

It isn’t about us poor poor menz, you halfwit….you’re ignoring the horrific crime to whinge about your perception of a slightly ambiguous headline.

Empathy…you’re doing it wrong…

How do these men get so deep into self-loathing? I can have empathy for the victim and acknowledge that the men who commited the crime are guilty and should be punished and that the people who made jokes and laughed at her were not behaving at their best, while also acknowledging that they are only a tiny fraction of the male population.

I imagine that Taslima wouldn't like it if someone used that "The Talk" video about penis mutilation as an example showing that all women are evil man-hating monsters.

[another lurker]

She lost a lot of credibility when she made fun of a man who was raped by 6 women, or something.

http://dailypost.com.ng/2012/07/18/six- ... nue-state/

She made light of it, b/c in her mind, only women can ever be victims.

Consent is consent, doesn't matter if its man/man man/woman woman/man woman/woman.

Do you have a link to that? I'm not finding it on a quick search at her site.

I am sorry, I don't.

I vaguely remember the incident, and someone was criticizing her for her double standards in regards to it.

[welch]

I honestly wish Heina and the other FtB/Skepchick/A+ types all the best in their quests for weight loss and better health. Really, I do - if nothing else, it's selfish best interest to do so for those who, like me, are Merkins, because the consequences of poor lifestyle choices consume taxpayer dollars and drive up the cost of healthcare for everyone. Different strategies work for different people: a moderate carb/low fat diet, combined with running and weights, works for me. I joined a local running club for support, motivation, and advice, and after less than a month, I'm running 10 to 14 miles per week, with the goal of running a half-marathon this fall. Running works extremely well for me, to get weight off and keep it off, but it's not for everyone.

Abbie has expressed her well wishes for good health and offered fitness advice to all and sundry on several occasions that I can recall. This has included even those "enemies" - notably PZ after his stent procedure - who insult and berate her repeatedly, want to ban her from conferences as "dangerous," and who would probably spit gobbets of their insane resentment on her in person, if only they had the gonads to do so. Probably none of us here at the SlymePit wishes any physical or mental ill health or harm on those FtB/Skepchick/A+ folk who paint us as dangerous misogynists. So y'all need to get a grip and give that victim mentality the boot - your health status is not going to improve until you take full responsibility for your own actions and inactions, and git 'er done.

Not me. I hope they are all plagued by ticks on their nipples.

[Walter Ego]

[spoiler]I'm concerned about the accusations of people engaging in criminal activity by EBW. This is a bit further than (what I've seen) against others as it's just been 'harassment, bullying and jerky-faceness'. If I was less of a jerky-face, I may have backed out of any participation in the community waiting for a knock on the door from the state police and the cyber police. And we need to welcome more people in, not only allowing them in if they are either (a) a jerky-face or (b) wholly in agreement with FtB, A+ and Skepchick on everything.

I also blogged the comments by EllenBeth that I engaged in criminal activity by receiving tweets if anyone wants to read them - as I suspect they'll be deleted. (Sorry for being a blog whore - (http://unsolicitedcomment.wordpress.com ... uaintance/))[/spoiler])

And fuck all y'all: [spoiler]learn how to nest your fucking spoilers, you fucking fucks[/spoiler].

EllenBeth Wachs is a known nutbag. If she accuses you of criminal activity, and I think she is just nasty, unbalanced and neurotic enough to do that, I would contact this guy and ask his advice:

http://www.polksheriff.org/SiteCollecti ... -w-bkg.jpg

Polk Conty Sheriff Grady Judd
http://www.polksheriff.org/
(863) 298-6200 or toll-free 1-800-226-0344

That is all.

EllenBeth accused me of being a stalker for making a video criticizing her and then, as a courtesy in case she wanted to reply, sending her a PM with a link to the video. I think it was the PM that provoked the "stalker" allegation. She was also irritated that a peon like me "demanded" her attention, important person that she is.

The woman definitely has some loose screws rattling around in her cranium.

[Dick Strawkins]

Uh-oh. Someone better fill her in on the latest decree from Pharyngulite nightshadequeen:

To me, being a [man]/not being a [man] is something someone decides, conciously or not, to be or not to be. ... not defining [man & woman] is the best I can do at defining [man & woman].

(as quoted here: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=73&p=44497#p44497)

So: which of them is the truer rad-fem?

No question, it's Taslima.

The real problem with the current mess in atheism is the mixing of sex positive feminism (in which I would include, believe it or not, almost all the FTB/Skepchick crowd) and the anti-pornography feminists like Taslima and Ophelia.
These two forms of feminism are based on different values systems and draw the line on rights in completely different places.
The anti-porn form of feminism has its own unique vocabulary, from which we get many of the phrases that have become commonplace in the skeptical movement in only the last 18 months. These include: mansplaining, privilege, rape culture and various others.

If this sounds a little far-fetched I would ask you to do one thing.
Click on the following link to a feminism 101 page made by radical feminists.
http://radicalhub.com/radfem-101/
You'll instantly recognize many of the phrases and terms that have begun to creep into online skepticism - but coming from people who call themselves sex positive feminists and who disavow the term "radfem".

I personally don't think they (the skepchicks) really believe this stuff. They just use it as a weapon of convenience because it is impossible for anyone to refute (because it is based on a conspiracy theory idea of 'the patriarchy')
I've mentioned in the past that the anti-porn feminists (they never call themselves anti-sex), like Ophelia, absolutely hate the kind of sexual joking that PZ engaged in at Skepticon3.
This incompatibility is a timebomb, ticking under their feet. I think Ophelia is smart enough to keep her mouth shut when her master is exposed as an onstage sex-pest hypocrite, just as she is when virtually all her non-USA use the sort of gendered insults she uses as exhibit 1 evidence against the rest of us. But Taslima is not so encumbent on FTB money or speaking positions.
I would put my money on Taslima being the one who sets off the inevitable explosion.

[Eucliwood]

OKAY, IM CONFUSED. People keep saying the *TITLE* is no big deal - but in what I read here, the misandry was also in the post... so what the fuck? Did she edit it, or did one of you dillwads actually edit her post and take a fake screenie? I figured it was an honest screenshot.

[somedumbguy]

Taslima Nasreen on her FfTB soapbox today:

All men everywhere are rapists and misogynists.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/taslima/201 ... verywhere/ ...

She lost a lot of credibility when she made fun of a man who was raped by 6 women, or something.

http://dailypost.com.ng/2012/07/18/six- ... nue-state/

She made light of it, b/c in her mind, only women can ever be victims.

Consent is consent, doesn't matter if its man/man man/woman woman/man woman/woman.

Well, wherever else she's said it in the past, it's one she tweeted about just 6 hrs ago:
http://i.imgur.com/d90ib.png

Wow, it's 2013. I was reading through that and figured this was from last year, until I read your last line.

[Maximus]

Taslima Nasreen on her FfTB soapbox today:

All men everywhere are rapists and misogynists.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/taslima/201 ... verywhere/ ...

She lost a lot of credibility when she made fun of a man who was raped by 6 women, or something.

http://dailypost.com.ng/2012/07/18/six- ... nue-state/

She made light of it, b/c in her mind, only women can ever be victims.

Consent is consent, doesn't matter if its man/man man/woman woman/man woman/woman.

Well, wherever else she's said it in the past, it's one she tweeted about just 6 hrs ago:
http://i.imgur.com/d90ib.png

"Shut the fuck off"... is that regional. Whatever it's my new favorite swear :lol:

[Phil_Giordana_FCD]

I take a break to watch a few episodes of Breaking Bad (that shit is good), and here I have 10 pages to read. Well, that's gonna be a looooong evening.

[jjbinx007]

"Shut the fuck off"... is that regional. Whatever it's my new favorite swear :lol:

She's quite the hostility lama isn't she?

I guess that's because women are the same everywhere.

[Altair]

OKAY, IM CONFUSED. People keep saying the *TITLE* is no big deal - but in what I read here, the misandry was also in the post... so what the fuck? Did she edit it, or did one of you dillwads actually edit her post and take a fake screenie? I figured it was an honest screenshot.

There's a third option. As you said in your comment over there (quick commenter, btw, as well as PitchGuest), they're just making excuses.

[somedumbguy]

OKAY, IM CONFUSED. People keep saying the *TITLE* is no big deal - but in what I read here, the misandry was also in the post... so what the fuck? Did she edit it, or did one of you dillwads actually edit her post and take a fake screenie? I figured it was an honest screenshot.

That is because they are lying to you and Nasreen is lying to you.

I should have taken a screenshot, but I didn't but she changed the title. You can see by the url what her original title was:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/taslima/201 ... everywhere

She has kept the post the same.

[windy]

Who the hell is Simon on Michael Nugent's blog?

That would be Simon Davis who goes by the engagingly ironic name of @SimonKnowz on Twitter.

He is, as you may imagine, a completely dishonest "agree or misogyny" kool-aid chugging little tit. His Twitter style is hit-and-run. He probably works with Hensley to false flag Twitter accounts critical of what I assume he imagines is DC's very own CFI power couple where she's a fucking idiot and he's a glorified event planner.

Is that the same Simon who kept asking people "what they would have done in Greg's position" at Griffiths and Zvans blogs after you got doxed? Hmm, is "do something sane" an option?

[windy]

Who the hell is Simon on Michael Nugent's blog?

That would be Simon Davis who goes by the engagingly ironic name of @SimonKnowz on Twitter.

He is, as you may imagine, a completely dishonest "agree or misogyny" kool-aid chugging little tit. His Twitter style is hit-and-run. He probably works with Hensley to false flag Twitter accounts critical of what I assume he imagines is DC's very own CFI power couple where she's a fucking idiot and he's a glorified event planner.

Is that the same Simon who kept asking people "what they would have done in Greg's position" at Griffiths and Zvans blogs after you got doxed? Hmm, is "do something sane" an option?

[windy]

The damned patriarchy made me double post!

[windy]

The damned patriarchy made me double post!

[Altair]

That is because they are lying to you and Nasreen is lying to you.

I should have taken a screenshot, but I didn't but she changed the title. You can see by the url what her original title was:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/taslima/201 ... everywhere

She has kept the post the same.

Badgersdaughter also acknowledges the title change, so I don't think a screenshot is going to be needed

Thank you, Taslima, I appreciate you changing the title from “Men are the same everywhere” to “Are men the same everywhere?”. I did not mean to imply that I had any objection to the content of the post, or any intent to minimize the rape and abuse.

Sorry, to “Are men more or less the same everywhere?” This is a question that can be honestly engaged with. Thanks again.

I don't think the change fixed anything, though.