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Um SNL's Leslie Jones seems to be making a pedo rape joke at 1:45...

It will be interesting to see if anyone discusses that, or mentions that Gal Gadot's opening discussion of proud Israeli heritage is problematic.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Ape+lust wrote:Salman Rushdie, islamophobic ass trickle.

(Zinnia is horked because he expressed concern about gender reassignment surgery on "very young people")

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Zinnia isn't one to talk, seeing as the only thing xe's reassigned is the prevailing direction of flow of traffic on zir Hershey Highway.

Well, if your dryer motor isn't working one 'failure mode' could be one sick fuck has been shoving it up it's ass again. And again.'

And again.

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Lsuoma wrote:Also rhymes with with stupid gay Scottish poof.
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Lsuoma wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:The Mail noted that fans of the Pit's official club, Millwall, were in attendance.
Fuck that shit - I grew up in the Medway Towns - the official Pit club is the Gills.
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Read this before Slate takes it down and fires the writer.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... phics.html

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Lsuoma wrote:Peart rhymes with Heart (Nancy and Ann Wilson).
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Lsuoma wrote:
Fuck that shit - I grew up in the Medway Towns - the official Pit club is the Gills.
The only reason I joined the pit .. UTG. :clap:

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rayshul wrote:Salman was literally the first very public victim of Islamic psychopaths.

I do not understand wtf is wrong with these people.
I don't either. At first I thought that they were so concerned about not being thought of as racists that they refused to criticize islam and attacked critics of islam because they thought that criticism of islam was a cover for racism. Then after I realized that they attacked A LOT of non-"white" critics of islam I thought that it was because right-wing parties were against islam, so they assumed that all criticism of islam was right-wing.

But now I'm not so sure. Some of them follow the first or the second script, but others attack critics of islam regardless of their ethnicity, political positions, or life experience. They seem to defend islam more than a lot of muslims, especially the most secular ones. They've attacked Maajid Nawaz as an "anti-muslim extremist", which is utterly insane from any possible perspective.

I think that at least in some cases the reason why they're so pro-islam is that they've turned islam, and especially reactionary, conservative islam into a cultural fetish. It's not even about race anymore, it's about gushing over hijabs and admiring people who are disgusted by modernity. Many SJWs seem to hate ANYTHING "Western", from liberal democracy to free markets to fashion to what they call "Western culture". They see islam as an antidote to the "corrupt" "white supremacist" west, and they're impressed by how successful reactionary/conservative islam has been at raising people who hate "the West" as much as they do.

Those people are likely to be the same individuals who praise North Korea or Cuba just because Daddy the US hates them. For them their ideals aren't about promoting some values or protecting people, but about "smashing white supremacy", and by "white supremacy" they mean EVERYTHING in the "west".

So in the end it's not really about islam, it's about satisfying their rage at the societies they live in. They'd support a group of cannibals if it attacked "the west".

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MacGruberKnows wrote:Well, if your dryer motor isn't working one 'failure mode' could be one sick fuck has been shoving it up it's ass again. And again.'

And again.
Maytag extended warranty motor retrieval and repair. Because you never know.

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I do not understand wtf is wrong with these people.

I don't either. At first I thought that they were so concerned about not being thought of as racists that they refused to criticize islam and attacked critics of islam because they thought that criticism of islam was a cover for racism. Then after I realized that they attacked A LOT of non-"white" critics of islam I thought that it was because right-wing parties were against islam, so they assumed that all criticism of islam was right-wing.
Don't they all tell us the answer is intersectional feminism?
Salman is a rich privileged cis male. He is part of the patriarchy. He embodies whiteness. He is a cis white supremacist. What happened to him happened long ago, and doesn't shield him from being called out on his transphobic bullshit. Right now he is actively harming the trans community homeboy. He is literally killing people. You are literally killing people by not seeing this.

Or something like that.

Basically "intersectional feminism" is a license to be rude, nasty, eat your own, participate in callout culture, create drama, virtue signal, slactivate and never have to say you're sorry. In fact, it's not a license, it's a demand, it's a moral imperative.

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Ape+lust wrote:
MacGruberKnows wrote:Well, if your dryer motor isn't working one 'failure mode' could be one sick fuck has been shoving it up it's ass again. And again.'

And again.
Maytag extended warranty motor retrieval and repair. Because you never know.

https://imgur.com/Ur4ltC9.jpg
And I thought that ShoeOnHead giving TMI about her relationship.

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MarcusAu wrote:
Ape+lust wrote:
MacGruberKnows wrote:Well, if your dryer motor isn't working one 'failure mode' could be one sick fuck has been shoving it up it's ass again. And again.'

And again.
Maytag extended warranty motor retrieval and repair. Because you never know.

https://imgur.com/Ur4ltC9.jpg
And I thought that ShoeOnHead giving TMI about her relationship.
She can try, but I doubt she the experience to match Zinnia's horrorshow.

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not that it matters, but "the horror the horror" was in reference to Zinnia's gaping tweet.

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Kirbmarc wrote:
rayshul wrote:Salman was literally the first very public victim of Islamic psychopaths.

I do not understand wtf is wrong with these people.
I don't either. At first I thought that they were so concerned about not being thought of as racists that they refused to criticize islam and attacked critics of islam because they thought that criticism of islam was a cover for racism. Then after I realized that they attacked A LOT of non-"white" critics of islam I thought that it was because right-wing parties were against islam, so they assumed that all criticism of islam was right-wing.

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So in the end it's not really about islam, it's about satisfying their rage at the societies they live in. They'd support a group of cannibals if it attacked "the west".
LoL. Talk about cutting off one's nose to spite one's face. Reminds me of a service truck I'd seen this afternoon - "Aztec Maintenance" or something; apparently clueless about the nature of Aztec society and their "religion" - not a helluva lot worse than Islam.

However, not sure that your scripts cover all of the cases; seems many are simply clueless about the nature of Islam, and refuse to make any effort to rectify that. Seem to have a very fuzzy understanding of it, and apparently see it as no worse than other religions. Something from the FTB blogger, Aged Reasoner, in a comment of his in response to several by yours truly:
Aged Reasoner wrote:I am sorry, but I just don’t have time to go through your comment point by point, but I will say that I disagree 100%.

The same things were said of Catholics in the United states for years, essentially that their undemocratic allegiance to the Pope means they could never be good citizens.

And the same things could have been said about Christian ideology for over a thousand years in Europe. Undemocratic, violent, close-minded, etc.

Are there problems in the Muslim world — of course yes. Do fundamentalist types spew all kinds of anti-Western, anti-science positions — course yes (but so do many fundamentalist Christians.) But do 100s of millions of Muslims live in peace, accept “Western values” such as democracy, science, tolerance, etc? Yes, they do.

The problem is religion, especially fundamentalism in religion, not Islam in particular.
Don't think the West, as a civilization, has a 1000 years, much less 50, to get Islam to change its tune, to become secular. He and too many others want to blithely continue on in their ignorance, ignoring the fact that all those "100s of millions of Muslims" are essentially endorsing - and revering - and promoting those barbarisms, rather than consider what courses we, as a society, should follow as a rational response.

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Alan Dershowitz derided the theory of intersectionality as the "phoniest academic doctrine I have encountered in 53 years" in academia, during a lecture at Columbia University on Wednesday evening.

Dershowitz called out the concept that sees all historically persecuted groups as targeted by the same oppressors, making all minorities allies in resisting that common oppression, as an oversimplification of reality that makes for the "strangest of strange bedfellows."

Through intersectionality, LGBT activists stand in solidarity with with advocates of shariah, said Dershowitz, even though Islamic law denies the rights with the former.

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Dershowitz's talk proceeded without interruption, despite expectations from event organizers, the campus group Students Supporting Israel, that members of Columbia University Apartheid Divest would disrupt the lecture, as anti-Israel protesters have done at numerous other SSI programs.

Dershowitz thanked Columbia students for not shouting him down, telling them, "You're better than that."

He also responded to a document CUAD members had handed out to the audience, titled, "Alan Dershowitz, In His Own Words." The flier pulled quotes from Dershowitz's writings on Israel and American politics, most of which the Harvard law professor said were accurate.

"I approve of this. This is a good way of protesting," said Dershowitz.

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Intersectionality in practice works like this: A rich white woman who has never suffered hardship in her life claims she is oppressed because bad things have happened to some women elsewhere in the world and/or at some point in the past. A poor white disabled homeless man is not oppressed because he is a man, and good things have happened to some men elsewhere in the world and/or at some point in the past.

Basically if you're an intersectionalist, you always identify as whichever "axis" of your identity gets you the most victim cred, while all opponents must be identified according to whichever grants them the least.

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VickyCaramel wrote:I am not sure if this will interest anyone other than Steersman. The media has somehow failed to notice 30,000 football hooligans supporters and ex-servicemen marching through Londinistan for the third time in protest at Islam extremism.
Thanks for the info - kind of nice to see, some grass-roots reading of the Riot Act to Muslims. Hope the powers-that-be are capable of reading the writing on the wall, and of following suit, although I wouldn't put a lot of money on that.
VickyCaramel wrote:I am not sure if this is reassuring or very worrying.
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In the long term, I can't see things ending well... not for muslims anyway, I wouldn't want to be in their flip-flops.
Listen to the rhetoric, it's fighting talk.

[.youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7riBwcVo6fs[/youtube]

Am I right to be suspicious that our very left-wing MSM has failed to tear into this, especially as Tommy Robinson is there? Only The Socialist Worker has given negative coverage with the Independent being balanced, the Evening Standard and Daily Mail being positive.

#footballladsalliance
Figure Muslims have just about worn out their welcome in the West - saw something about a million Poles lined up on their borders saying prayers (?) to commemorate the defeat of the Turks in 1571. Of course the BBC reports it's being seen as "anti-Muslim" (surprise, surprise), although it is quite reasonable to see it as that as there is no shortage of reasons for that viewpoint: https://twitter.com/TrannyForTrump/stat ... 8077782016

Interesting that even Matt Dillahunty in that video of his - thanks for "enacting the labour" :-) - acknowledged, apparently, that Islam is not reformable. And, apropos of both that and your Tommy Robinson comment, you might take a look at an interview, particularly the last 5 minutes, by "Godless Spellchecker" [Stephen Knight] of Douglas Murray who gave quite fulsome support for Robinson:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW3VwB8 ... e=youtu.be

Salient quote from that segment on the deprecating of supposedly "islamophobic" comments:
Murray wrote:But I worry at the attempt to make opinions which are held by the majority into opinions which are claimed to be unacceptable.
Expect that #footballladsalliance will go some distance in precluding that eventuality. Curious though that I'd had a brief Twitter conversation with Knight some months ago on the idea of banning Islam which he was not at all sympathetic to. However, Knight now seems to at least be buying into Murray's arguments - particularly the whole dichotomy or chasm between Islam & the West and particularly relative to human rights, although I'm not sure whether he's ready to bite that particular bullet:
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Sunder wrote:Jerry shows his paper-thin skin once more:
Jerry wrote:I don’t think the government should be in the business of regulating our diets.
/snip/
I have a faint suspicion Jerry's actually a bit ashamed of his less-than-healthy feeding habits, and affectionately shows this by sniping at any perceived criticism of it.

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So, I'm heading up to the mountains again for some studio work. I was worried I wouldn't be able to get some job done in the evening hours, but I have to thank Ape for his contribution. I'm never sleeping again.

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Ape+lust wrote:
MarcusAu wrote:
Ape+lust wrote: <snip>

Maytag extended warranty motor retrieval and repair. Because you never know.

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And I thought that ShoeOnHead giving TMI about her relationship.
She can try, but I doubt she the experience to match Zinnia's horrorshow.

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Not sure that it's entirely justified to fault Zinnia for his sexual predilections or exhibitionism, particularly as the former at least is more or less the stock in trade, apparently, of male homosexuals. But that last tweet of his really suggests that he's a sociopath at best if not a raving psychopath.

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Ape+lust wrote:Salman Rushdie, islamophobic ass trickle.

(Zinnia is horked because he expressed concern about gender reassignment surgery on "very young people")

https://imgur.com/yF1zbAK.png
Salman Rushdie is an "islamophobic asstrickle" for having a world-wide fatwa against him since 1989... for writing a perceivedly blasphemic book?

Am I very bad for hoping these people come under the next Truck of Peace?

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Steersman wrote:
Not sure that it's entirely justified to fault Zinnia for his sexual predilections or exhibitionism, particularly as the former at least is more or less the stock in trade, apparently, of male homosexuals. But that last tweet of his really suggests that he's a sociopath at best if not a raving psychopath.
But Zinnia is a 'trans lesbian' not a homosexual, stop misappropriating her him thing. :?

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Zinnia's pinned tweet is about "transgender depersonalization," which sounds a lot like depersonalization as applies to literally any other person or group on the planet, and makes about as much sense as "transgender migraine" or "transgender influenza."

Regardless, Zinnia asks "Do you feel like an automaton?" Which I can't help but think must be an outsized problem in SJW communities where, after all, most interactions are carefully scripted.

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Kirbmarc wrote:
I think that at least in some cases the reason why they're so pro-islam is that they've turned islam, and especially reactionary, conservative islam into a cultural fetish. It's not even about race anymore, it's about gushing over hijabs and admiring people who are disgusted by modernity. Many SJWs seem to hate ANYTHING "Western", from liberal democracy to free markets to fashion to what they call "Western culture". They see islam as an antidote to the "corrupt" "white supremacist" west, and they're impressed by how successful reactionary/conservative islam has been at raising people who hate "the West" as much as they do.

Those people are likely to be the same individuals who praise North Korea or Cuba just because Daddy the US hates them. For them their ideals aren't about promoting some values or protecting people, but about "smashing white supremacy", and by "white supremacy" they mean EVERYTHING in the "west".

So in the end it's not really about islam, it's about satisfying their rage at the societies they live in. They'd support a group of cannibals if it attacked "the west".
And of course they do this in the local Starbucks, whilst buried in their iPhones and Kindles, the irony of which is seemingly not visible to them. :doh:

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Oglebart wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote:
I think that at least in some cases the reason why they're so pro-islam is that they've turned islam, and especially reactionary, conservative islam into a cultural fetish. It's not even about race anymore, it's about gushing over hijabs and admiring people who are disgusted by modernity. Many SJWs seem to hate ANYTHING "Western", from liberal democracy to free markets to fashion to what they call "Western culture". They see islam as an antidote to the "corrupt" "white supremacist" west, and they're impressed by how successful reactionary/conservative islam has been at raising people who hate "the West" as much as they do.

Those people are likely to be the same individuals who praise North Korea or Cuba just because Daddy the US hates them. For them their ideals aren't about promoting some values or protecting people, but about "smashing white supremacy", and by "white supremacy" they mean EVERYTHING in the "west".

So in the end it's not really about islam, it's about satisfying their rage at the societies they live in. They'd support a group of cannibals if it attacked "the west".
And of course they do this in the local Starbucks, whilst buried in their iPhones and Kindles, the irony of which is seemingly not visible to them. :doh:
Of course. It's a teenage temper tantrum, not a serious point. People like Zinnia or Dan Arel are overgrown teens who like the things that Daddy hates, not serious political activists, not even serious radical political activists.

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shoutinghorse wrote:But Zinnia is a 'trans lesbian' not a homosexual, stop misappropriating her him thing. :?
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Another more honest take on the Football Lads Alliance March in London yesterday by YouTuber Simon Harris.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XcZJsSdihms
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And here's a the long version of the 'stand up to racism' Facebook video he shows. Listen to how the guy on this video gets triggered as the FLA start singing God Save The Queen and then comes out with one hyperbolic smear after another.
I seriously doubt the fellow has ever been to a match in his life.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 73190&_rdr

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They're eating each other again!

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... e-violence

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Sunder wrote:Basically if you're an intersectionalist, you always identify as whichever "axis" of your identity gets you the most victim cred, while all opponents must be identified according to whichever grants them the least.
Sunder wrote:Regardless, Zinnia asks "Do you feel like an automaton?" Which I can't help but think must be an outsized problem in SJW communities where, after all, most interactions are carefully scripted.
Nicely barbed points. I'm liking the cut of your jib.

I thought that last quite often when seeing Zarna Joshi and her cronies in videos (something Sye Ten picked up on in his cartoon version of her).

And there does seem to be some statistical evidence to show that following the nostrums of the PC cult (including especially Feminism) make people unhappy.

I'm coming round to the idea that the whole schtick that started with Freud and really kicked off big time in the 1960s, about sex being a liberating, recreational toy, is actually a great cause of unhappiness (much as it pains me to say it, because as someone raised in the 60s and 70s, I believed it myself for ever such a long time, right down to being a whilom fan of Wilhelm Reich and Norman O. Brown).

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:So, I'm heading up to the mountains again for some studio work. I was worried I wouldn't be able to get some job done in the evening hours, but I have to thank Ape for his contribution. I'm never sleeping again.
I know. Neil Peart on a Segway. I may never regain anyone's trust.

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Bhurzum wrote:They're eating each other again!

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... e-violence

:popcorn:
I'd love The Guardian as a whole to face some backlash for publishing transphobic stuff like this while trannies are literally being drowned in acid baths and then run over by tanks in town centres across the U.K.

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No sex please, we're British.

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gurugeorge wrote:I'm coming round to the idea that the whole schtick that started with Freud and really kicked off big time in the 1960s, about sex being a liberating, recreational toy, is actually a great cause of unhappiness (much as it pains me to say it, because as someone raised in the 60s and 70s, I believed it myself for ever such a long time, right down to being a whilom fan of Wilhelm Reich and Norman O. Brown).
It causes happiness in young, healthy, reasonably attractive and socially skilled people who can have fun having sex. For those who are older, unhealthy, unattractive and socially stunted seeing others having fun having sex causes envy and unhappiness.

Most people are far more simple and shallow than most ivory tower thinkers assume.

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Well, PZ's review of the new BR is in, continuing the apparent trend in BR reviews that it's unacceptable to show women being offed. Like there isn't fifty years of movie history with almost exclusively male death and mayhem. Depicting female death is...wait for it...misogyny. PZ really has gone off the deep end.

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Sunder wrote:Zinnia's pinned tweet is about "transgender depersonalization," which sounds a lot like depersonalization as applies to literally any other person or group on the planet, and makes about as much sense as "transgender migraine" or "transgender influenza."

Regardless, Zinnia asks "Do you feel like an automaton?" Which I can't help but think must be an outsized problem in SJW communities where, after all, most interactions are carefully scripted.
Zinnia is in the midst of lying about re-inventing his history again. He was once cis. Now he never was. He was never gay, until he was, and currently I don't know if he is. Once upon a time, he couldn't give a shit if you called him man or woman, until his womanhood became so powerful it couldn't withstand the terrible onslaught of the word "he."

Something he's long claimed is that he's never experienced gender dysphoria. And that's become another unfortunate leftover from his easygoing years, something he wishes he hasn't said. For one thing, it deprives him of a powerful trans experience. More importantly, it makes him vulnerable to dismissal from "truscum," people for whom dysphoria is the marker that separates real trannies from cross-dressers.

So, he's reviewed his transition and discovered that he suffered depersonalization/derealization his entire life, until it was relieved by hormone therapy. IOW, he did endure gender dysphoria in another form!

It's self-serving horseshit and he's gone all in with it, informing other trans that they may have been afflicted without knowing it. He's the prophet of depersonalization, delivering the gift of dysphoria to trannies who were once bereft.

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Hunt wrote:Well, PZ's review of the new BR is in, continuing the apparent trend in BR reviews that it's unacceptable to show women being offed. Like there isn't fifty years of movie history with almost exclusively male death and mayhem. Depicting female death is...wait for it...misogyny. PZ really has gone off the deep end.
HAHA! Peez reassures us with the idiot phrase of the day:
Peez wrote:Don’t worry, though, lots of men get offed, too.
Well, color me relieved :lol:

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katamari Damassi wrote:Read this before Slate takes it down and fires the writer.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... phics.html
My theory, which is mine and worth less than $0.02, is that the Las Vegas murderer was mocked repeatedly for some physical characteristic, like being short or balding. His girlfriend was described early on as being less than 5 feet tall, and something one of his neighbors said struck me as odd:
“He was weird. Kept to himself,” said McKay, 79, who described Paddock as small but in pretty good shape.
The killer's felon father was described as being 6 foot 4 inches tall, but nothing has been stated about his height, apart from that neighbor's description of "small." People who saw the killer with his girlfriend would have likely commented on the mismatch in height, if he were 6 foot+ like his father. It's difficult to tell for sure from the photo angle in the hotel room, but the legs don't look like those of a 6 foot+ person. His height should be listed on his driver's license, so it seems weird that the girlfriend's height was mentioned early on, but not the killer's height. I think the girlfriend is likely not guilty of any wrongdoing, but also probably not very bright either.

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Bhurzum wrote:They're eating each other again!
:popcorn:
Okay, enough about Zinnia's bunghole, already!

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Hola, Barnowl! :dance:

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katamari Damassi wrote:Read this before Slate takes it down and fires the writer.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... phics.html
That article started out well, then drove smack into the Critical Race Theory ditch:
I think it makes more sense to ask why those classified as non-white might be disproportionately represented among killers, from mass shooters down the line. The answer there would seem to have everything to do with privilege. Structural inequalities related to education, employment, housing, and health care, along with de facto segregation and a history of discrimination and bias, create conditions under which black Americans in particular are more likely to be both the perpetrators and the victims of this violence. More than half of those committing homicides in the BJS data set are black, and close to half of the victims of those homicides are black. These statistics show us that in a global sense, a lack of privilege contributes to killing and that white privilege kills, at least in part, through the reciprocal cost it imposes on to other groups.

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Hunt wrote:Well, PZ's review of the new BR is in, continuing the apparent trend in BR reviews that it's unacceptable to show women being offed. Like there isn't fifty years of movie history with almost exclusively male death and mayhem. Depicting female death is...wait for it...misogyny. PZ really has gone off the deep end.
"Save the women first" is patriarchal and misogynistic. "Women can fight and die" is misogynistic. "Women can fight and must always, always win" is writing a Fighting Fuck Toy, and, wait for it, misogynistic. And not having women in your movie violates the Bechdel Test.

Everything is sexist, everything is racist, everything is problematic and you have to point it all out.

Movie are SO DAMN important. If we complain enough about ALL movies and call people who like them without complaining fucking white supremacist Nazis we'll finally solve all of the problems in the world!

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It gets worse
According to the study, white and Asian mass murderers perpetrated crimes with more victims, on average, and they were more likely to carry out those crimes in public places. Nearly one-fourth of the white mass murderers and one-fifth of the Asians in the group engaged in public killings. Among the black mass murderers, this proportion was just 6 percent. Lankford suggests the relative whiteness of public killings, in particular, could indeed result from structural advantage and “aggrieved entitlement.”

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Bhurzum wrote:They're eating each other again!
:popcorn:
Okay, enough about Zinnia's bunghole, already!
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shoutinghorse wrote: And here's a the long version of the 'stand up to racism' Facebook video he shows. Listen to how the guy on this video gets triggered as the FLA start singing God Save The Queen and then comes out with one hyperbolic smear after another.
I seriously doubt the fellow has ever been to a match in his life.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 73190&_rdr
This is very telling. Despite his claims that he is just standing there with a banner saying "stand up to racism", every reference to this event by FLA on twitter calls them communists or refers to them as "Socialist Worker's Party" which is exactly what they are. They chant "England" and sing the National anthem.... they know exactly who they are and how to wind them up.

This seems to have been the only protest against the march and it looks like the communists are practically outnumbered by tourists. It doesn't seem to have escaped the attention of the FLA that Antifa stayed at home. I would say that the FLA are pretty "woke" about what's going on.

The BBC are claiming they did attend the march but had to leave because of the "accident" outside the Natural History museum.

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Lsuoma wrote: Also also, Bonzo and Moonie were great drummers, but the best ever was Ginger Baker. Watch "Beware of Mr Baker" for a great experience...
"Bonham had technique, but he couldn't swing a sack of fucking shit."
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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:It gets worse
According to the study, white and Asian mass murderers perpetrated crimes with more victims, on average, and they were more likely to carry out those crimes in public places. Nearly one-fourth of the white mass murderers and one-fifth of the Asians in the group engaged in public killings. Among the black mass murderers, this proportion was just 6 percent. Lankford suggests the relative whiteness of public killings, in particular, could indeed result from structural advantage and “aggrieved entitlement.”
Most of the article is fine but it is punctuated with claims like this that jump out of nowhere. If the author wants to bring up privilege or entitlement they should include a socio-economic breakdown of the perpetrators.

How many of the white mass killings occur on a golf course or a private yacht? Because if they are happening - as I suspect - in projects and trailer parks there's no fucking 'privilege' or 'entitlement'.

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Hunt wrote:Well, PZ's review of the new BR is in, continuing the apparent trend in BR reviews that it's unacceptable to show women being offed. Like there isn't fifty years of movie history with almost exclusively male death and mayhem. Depicting female death is...wait for it...misogyny. PZ really has gone off the deep end.
I count one actual woman killed in that movie.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
katamari Damassi wrote:Read this before Slate takes it down and fires the writer.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... phics.html
That article started out well, then drove smack into the Critical Race Theory ditch:
I think it makes more sense to ask why those classified as non-white might be disproportionately represented among killers, from mass shooters down the line. The answer there would seem to have everything to do with privilege. Structural inequalities related to education, employment, housing, and health care, along with de facto segregation and a history of discrimination and bias, create conditions under which black Americans in particular are more likely to be both the perpetrators and the victims of this violence. More than half of those committing homicides in the BJS data set are black, and close to half of the victims of those homicides are black. These statistics show us that in a global sense, a lack of privilege contributes to killing and that white privilege kills, at least in part, through the reciprocal cost it imposes on to other groups.
That's when I stopped reading...

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Just thought of something. Don't drier motors kinda sorta resemble hamster wheels ???

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Kirbmarc wrote:
gurugeorge wrote:I'm coming round to the idea that the whole schtick that started with Freud and really kicked off big time in the 1960s, about sex being a liberating, recreational toy, is actually a great cause of unhappiness (much as it pains me to say it, because as someone raised in the 60s and 70s, I believed it myself for ever such a long time, right down to being a whilom fan of Wilhelm Reich and Norman O. Brown).
It causes happiness in young, healthy, reasonably attractive and socially skilled people who can have fun having sex. For those who are older, unhealthy, unattractive and socially stunted seeing others having fun having sex causes envy and unhappiness.

Most people are far more simple and shallow than most ivory tower thinkers assume.
Eating sweets and cakes causes momentary happiness too ...

Obviously the act itself is pleasurable, it's designed to be, in an ancestral environment where there's a high infant attrition rate; but in the context of a civilization, it's the mid-to-long-term consequences of promiscuity that lead to unhappiness and loveless lives in the long run for many people, particularly women (cock carousel in younger years, frustrated hypergamy in the cat lady years), and suicide in "useless" older men.

Ofc, just as with anxiety about not having an over-arching context for existence and a "place" in the world, it's a bell curve thing, some can handle it; and obviously the law has nothing to do with the matter.

But getting rid of social shaming and stopping recommending abstinence to young people - i.e. stopping teen abstinence being the socially accepted norm that you're supposed to at least give lip-service to - was probably a huge mistake.

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I'm sure that the TradCon lifestyle will make a comeback - once people realize that it is the new punk rock.

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gurugeorge wrote:Eating sweets and cakes causes momentary happiness too ...

Obviously the act itself is pleasurable, it's designed to be, in an ancestral environment where there's a high infant attrition rate; but in the context of a civilization, it's the mid-to-long-term consequences of promiscuity that lead to unhappiness and loveless lives in the long run for many people, particularly women (cock carousel in younger years, frustrated hypergamy in the cat lady years), and suicide in "useless" older men.

Ofc, just as with anxiety about not having an over-arching context for existence and a "place" in the world, it's a bell curve thing, some can handle it; and obviously the law has nothing to do with the matter.

But getting rid of social shaming and stopping recommending abstinence to young people - i.e. stopping teen abstinence being the socially accepted norm that you're supposed to at least give lip-service to - was probably a huge mistake.
I'll take promiscuous countries over any medieval shit-hole you can think of, thanks very much.

What we are seeing on campuses is a new sexual repression. It's a culture of shame. Sexual activity among the young is going down, not up.

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Bhurzum wrote:
Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Bhurzum wrote:They're eating each other again!
:popcorn:
Okay, enough about Zinnia's bunghole, already!
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Shatterface wrote:
gurugeorge wrote:Eating sweets and cakes causes momentary happiness too ...

Obviously the act itself is pleasurable, it's designed to be, in an ancestral environment where there's a high infant attrition rate; but in the context of a civilization, it's the mid-to-long-term consequences of promiscuity that lead to unhappiness and loveless lives in the long run for many people, particularly women (cock carousel in younger years, frustrated hypergamy in the cat lady years), and suicide in "useless" older men.

Ofc, just as with anxiety about not having an over-arching context for existence and a "place" in the world, it's a bell curve thing, some can handle it; and obviously the law has nothing to do with the matter.

But getting rid of social shaming and stopping recommending abstinence to young people - i.e. stopping teen abstinence being the socially accepted norm that you're supposed to at least give lip-service to - was probably a huge mistake.
I'll take promiscuous countries over any medieval shit-hole you can think of, thanks very much.
I'm not saying we should go to the other extreme.
What we are seeing on campuses is a new sexual repression. It's a culture of shame. Sexual activity among the young is going down, not up.
There seems to be some confusion on this. Hookup culture?

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Jordan Peterson's new personality testing website, Understand Myself - looks interesting.


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'I'm Shovin it.'

Anyways, just don't ask for the special sauce. And always refuse the supersize option.

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