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:lol: :lol: :lol: That deflating sound is PZ peering at Mary and then this dude's setup.
http://i.imgur.com/qZPSm39.jpg
But seriously. He (and she) get accused of ugly-shaming and the dude has to delete his tweet? FFS
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At the end of the day dude still fucking wonderwoman tho
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She's fucking a white male.rayshul wrote:At the end of the day dude still fucking wonderwoman tho
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http://www.dailywire.com/news/17644/eri ... k-erickson#
Didn't mind that article. I found it pretty insightful.
Didn't mind that article. I found it pretty insightful.
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The man has only two default states.rayshul wrote:At the end of the day dude still fucking wonderwoman tho
Moaning and laughing.
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I wonder how fast PZ will be out of the gate to blog about the Islamophobic attack. He will be so happy, so happy.
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Truck drives thru Muslims. Man dragged out of van and attacked by his victims.
Seems obvious until you read:
Seems obvious until you read:
http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/van ... 55458ccf61“We heard words that made people want to do bad things to him,” he told news.com.au, refusing to repeat what the driver had said
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"Watch your language. Watch your language" = Don't criticise Islam. :naughty:
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Very much so.Shatterface wrote:So anyone else looking forward to Luc Besson's return to science fiction?
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Side note: I've always been slightly amused by the "cultural appropriation" the French practice wrt the gung-ho aspect of Americana (comics and movies). They pretend they're doing it with Postmodern irony, but secretly they love it :)
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You'd know all about sectarian attacks wouldn't you Gerry :shock:
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Yes the French make the cultural references all loop back on themselves - but they do add a twist too.
Has someone brought up Mobius (RIP) yet?
Has someone brought up Mobius (RIP) yet?
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It's surprising, the degree to which the Allies knew about the concentration camps, but didn't seem to care, and even swept it under the rug at every available opportunity.Brive1987 wrote:
That said there was no excuse for not even trying to bomb the auschwitz railheads.
Well, surprising if you aren't aware that the Church of Universalist Humanism has "form" with that sort of thing ...
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No, but I should have. My bad.MarcusAu wrote:Yes the French make the cultural references all loop back on themselves - but they do add a twist too.
Has someone brought up Mobius (RIP) yet?
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By the way Phil - I took your recommendation and watched 'The Mansion of the Gods' movie. Very fun - and even the tweaks to the plot were not out of place. This was the all in English version though.
I then started to watch 'God Save Britannia' but the version I got was 'en francais' as we say in the English speaking world. The funniest joke so far is that the Briton characters speak French with atrociously bad English accents - as if going on holiday in France for the first time. Apart from that, my ability to follow along was mainly due to familiarity with the story (a mash up of '...in Britain' & '...and the Normans') as my language skills are pretty much 'petty poo' at the best of times.
I then started to watch 'God Save Britannia' but the version I got was 'en francais' as we say in the English speaking world. The funniest joke so far is that the Briton characters speak French with atrociously bad English accents - as if going on holiday in France for the first time. Apart from that, my ability to follow along was mainly due to familiarity with the story (a mash up of '...in Britain' & '...and the Normans') as my language skills are pretty much 'petty poo' at the best of times.
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This is one of my favourite films. Literally top 5.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:No, but I should have. My bad.MarcusAu wrote:Yes the French make the cultural references all loop back on themselves - but they do add a twist too.
Has someone brought up Mobius (RIP) yet?
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My mum recorded the 80s brit translation (that features the voice of Mr Benn) off telly. Watched that betamax tape until it broke.
I also like Laloux's other animated films, of which I think Gandahar/Lightyear has some superb ideas in it. But Time Masters has that wonderful Moebius feel. I highly recommend his book The Incal, if anyone is interested in what the Jordoworsky DUNE might have played out like.
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If anyone is near London this weekend - there is a special event catering to one of 'Pyt's unique fetishes...
https://www.visitleevalley.org.uk/en/co ... haystacks/
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Godard adored the US until the Vietnam war. His early (ie. good) stuff stuff is a love letter to Hollywood.gurugeorge wrote:Very much so.Shatterface wrote:So anyone else looking forward to Luc Besson's return to science fiction?
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Side note: I've always been slightly amused by the "cultural appropriation" the French practice wrt the gung-ho aspect of Americana (comics and movies). They pretend they're doing it with Postmodern irony, but secretly they love it :)
Ditto Truffaut and Chabrol.
It was French critics who defined film criticism. They took jobbing film directors and turned them into auteurs.
Only the French could take a quintessentially US film genre and get the Americans themselves to call it film noir.
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There's probably some irony in that it was the Germans (specifically those escaping the Nazi regime) that contributed so much to American film noir in the first place.
Film making is a pot luck gumbo - it's a collaborative effort and takes it's influences from various diverse sources.
Auteurs are very rare in the business unless we are talking of such talents as Russ Meyer.
Film making is a pot luck gumbo - it's a collaborative effort and takes it's influences from various diverse sources.
Auteurs are very rare in the business unless we are talking of such talents as Russ Meyer.
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Speaking of Moebius, Airtight Garage (Le Garage Hermétique) is my favorite comic strip/graphic novel of all times. I highly recommend to anyone who's even remotely interested in science fiction or surrealism.DrokkIt wrote:This is one of my favourite films. Literally top 5.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:No, but I should have. My bad.MarcusAu wrote:Yes the French make the cultural references all loop back on themselves - but they do add a twist too.
Has someone brought up Mobius (RIP) yet?
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My mum recorded the 80s brit translation (that features the voice of Mr Benn) off telly. Watched that betamax tape until it broke.
I also like Laloux's other animated films, of which I think Gandahar/Lightyear has some superb ideas in it. But Time Masters has that wonderful Moebius feel. I highly recommend his book The Incal, if anyone is interested in what the Jordoworsky DUNE might have played out like.
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Is there a good english translation available?Kirbmarc wrote:
Speaking of Moebius, Airtight Garage (Le Garage Hermétique) is my favorite comic strip/graphic novel of all times. I highly recommend to anyone who's even remotely interested in science fiction or surrealism.
Me no speako froggo
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I reckon soDrokkIt wrote:
Is there a good english translation available?
Me no speako froggo
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Airtight-Garag ... 1852860464
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I don't currently run the kind of budget that would allow me to spaff £150 on a comic, sadly.MarcusAu wrote:I reckon soDrokkIt wrote:
Is there a good english translation available?
Me no speako froggo
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Airtight-Garag ... 1852860464
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King Crimson was my favorite band when I was in high school. Which made me real popular with the cool kids, who only like music that they heard on the local commercial FM radio station. Think bands like Boston, Styx, Foreigner, etc, and whatever other Arena Rock Pablum the local FM radio station was pimping at the time. And I lived too far away from Cleveland to pick up any of the handful of non commercial radio stations. so no good music for me, unless I somehow stumbled across it. like I did when I heard an eight track of King Crimson in a clothing store when I was fifteen.Lsuoma wrote:Un. Fucking. Believable. Stunningly good. Best. Gig. Ever. Amazing. Can't say enough good things about it. Phe-bleeding-nominal!!!!!Barbie's Boyfriend wrote:How was King Crimson ?Lsuoma wrote:Just getting outside the last few ml of Laphroiag (LaFrog?) before I turn in. Listening to Quadrophenia (fantastic album). See y'all tomorgen...
Now here comes the part that all of the Slympsters hate. The part where I play two degrees of separation between me and somebody famous. Good thing all of the movers and shakers around these parts have me on "IGNORE". lol
During 1984, I hung out with a band in Cleveland, Ohio called The Adults. One night, before a show, Crystal Gray, the bass player, was going on about how cool it was the year before, when they opened for King Crimson. How she got to hang with them backstage, etc.I guess at least one member of King Crimson was also impressed with them, since Adrian Belew played guitar on one of the songs from their one and only album (vinyl, natch) [youtube] [/youtube]
How would The Adults fare with today's PC SJW crowd? Not too well. One of their songs was called White Nigger:
You got no friends on planet Earth
People treat you like you're made outta dirt
You're just no good, so just stop tryin'
Be yourself, be what you are
White Nigger.
Hey, that sounds like my status in the Pit lol Or does that illustrious title belong to Steersman ?
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Except they resuscitated France instead.Brive1987 wrote:The Allies needed full flexibility to chain up the repeat mad-dog nation in whatever manner they deemed fit.
Nazism never had strong popular support. By the end of 1942, nearly everyone realized the nazis were leading the nation to ruin. Supporting the domestic resistance movement was the best way to eliminating nazism.Nazism had to be put to the sword by its external foes. And this humiliation was a precondition for denazification.
Humiliation is never a good approach. As applied in WWII, 'humiliation' meant tangible destruction, suffering, and death for millions of innocents. Only a sociopath could endorse that.
You don't seem very well-informed on the anti-Hitler resistance movement. Keitel was slated for summary execution. Rommel hadn't been a 'fan-boi' for years. OKW was to be cleaned out; the liberal and former chief of Staff, Beck, was to take over. Centrist politician Goerdeler as Chancellor, socialist Julius Leber as president. The only Nazi fellow traveler to be possibly retained was Speer.Further, by 1944 it was too late to try and establish some form of moral distinction between NSDAP and High Command. Kill Hitler and get .... Keitel? fan-boy Rommel?
I recommend Peter Hoffman's encyclopedic The History of The German Resistance 1933-1945.
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Ativan? You mean she's clinically depressed? Never saw that one coming.dog puke wrote: Why do you shitlords always call her beckybooze?
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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:The Islam-Friendly Atheist:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... l-muslims/
I thought the secular (Christian?) van of peace only managed one fatality?All in all, what we know for sure is that several people have been killed today, including many who were guilty of nothing more than being near mosques.
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Perfect capture of early Metal Hurlante/Heavy Metal. Phil should know what I am talking about.deLurch wrote:Agreed. Hilarious movie. Stacked full of over the top heavily stylized characters. Ruby Rhod fit in that universe.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:the Fifth Element was an excellent movie, and it would have been diminished if not for Ruby Rhod.
There, I said it!
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Oh fucking christ. This is where islamophobia came from -Oglebart wrote:Fucking news outlets throwing the I word around with abandon (Islamphobia). Surely now the best thing is to carry on as normal, right?
https://greylining.com/2015/11/21/manuf ... eudo-left/
Paid for by UK taxpayers.
Manufactured bullshit,
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Better picture of the driver:
https://imgoat.com/uploads/e296a067a3/24833.jpg
This is being passed around twitter, but I don't think they look close enough.
And this is where it occurred in relation to the mosque.
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https://imgoat.com/uploads/e296a067a3/24833.jpg
This is being passed around twitter, but I don't think they look close enough.
And this is where it occurred in relation to the mosque.
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Metal Hurlant!!!franc wrote:Perfect capture of early Metal Hurlante/Heavy Metal. Phil should know what I am talking about.deLurch wrote:Agreed. Hilarious movie. Stacked full of over the top heavily stylized characters. Ruby Rhod fit in that universe.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:the Fifth Element was an excellent movie, and it would have been diminished if not for Ruby Rhod.
There, I said it!
lml
Also, hi Franc, nice to see you back here.
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Muslim Welfare House seems a bit too close for comfort.
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DrokkIt wrote:Is there a good english translation available?Kirbmarc wrote:
Speaking of Moebius, Airtight Garage (Le Garage Hermétique) is my favorite comic strip/graphic novel of all times. I highly recommend to anyone who's even remotely interested in science fiction or surrealism.
Me no speako froggo
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Need your goatee to scratch my balls Phil. I think I have syphilus.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Also, hi Franc, nice to see you back here.
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Never heard of syphilus, but it sounds like a real kick in the cunt.franc wrote:Need your goatee to scratch my balls Phil. I think I have syphilus.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Also, hi Franc, nice to see you back here.
NO!
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Killed lesser men. like Napolean.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Never heard of syphilus, but it sounds like a real kick in the cunt.
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Just not the same motivation, I guess. For Christians, you only meet one virgin in Heaven, and she's off-limits.jet_lagg wrote:Matt Cavanaugh wrote:The Islam-Friendly Atheist:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... l-muslims/I thought the secular (Christian?) van of peace only managed one fatality?All in all, what we know for sure is that several people have been killed today, including many who were guilty of nothing more than being near mosques.
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Earlobes, people, always the earlobes!deLurch wrote:Better picture of the driver:
https://imgoat.com/uploads/e296a067a3/24833.jpg
This is being passed around twitter, but I don't think they look close enough.
And this is where it occurred in relation to the mosque.
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Maybe I'm too dense to really appreciate it - but making fake (even though they are joking) accusations about Anthony Cumia (of Opie & Anthony fame, you can google if interested) are not really that funny.deLurch wrote:Better picture of the driver:
[img.]https://imgoat.com/uploads/e296a067a3/24833.jpg[/img]
This is being passed around twitter, but I don't think they look close enough.
And this is where it occurred in relation to the mosque.
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Would that be the same Finsbury Park mosque where Abu Hamza was an Imam?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Hamza_al-Masri
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Hamza_al-Masri
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I've always referred to it as Metal Hurlant but in my defence I probably pronounce it wrong.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Metal Hurlant!!!
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It seems that the Pits favorite Anti feminist cam girl is now doing, wait for it... TENTACLE PORN !!!
Anti feminist, yet neon green hair, numerous tats, and into tentacle porn
PZ is conflicted
It seems that the Pits favorite Anti feminist cam girl is now doing, wait for it... TENTACLE PORN !!!
Anti feminist, yet neon green hair, numerous tats, and into tentacle porn
PZ is conflicted
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None of my local churches have ever won an award for combatting extremists - I wonder if that's because they don't have fucking extremists in the first place?Suet Cardigan wrote: Would that be the same Finsbury Park mosque where Abu Hamza was an Imam?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Hamza_al-Masri
If a restaurant advertised they won an award for killing rats I wouldn't see that as an endorsement of their standards of hygiene.
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I was supposed to have some artwork printed in there once, sent them all the files etc.Shatterface wrote:I've always referred to it as Metal Hurlant but in my defence I probably pronounce it wrong.Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:Metal Hurlant!!!
Never happened though, which is a fun way to end the anecdote.
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Ha ha, don't get me wrong, I think Piers Morgan is a cunt like most people do, but that was well played, pulling up that taqiyya spewing wanker like that. Bravo.shoutinghorse wrote:"Watch your language. Watch your language" = Don't criticise Islam. :naughty:
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The Mosque van attack story is so previous 24 hours.
"Champs Elysees: Car 'deliberately hits' police van in Paris"
"A car deliberately hit a police van before bursting into flames in the Champs Élysées area of central Paris, police officials say.
The driver died in the incident. Police found a Kalashnikov rifle, handguns and gas bottles in the car."
"Champs Elysees: Car 'deliberately hits' police van in Paris"
"A car deliberately hit a police van before bursting into flames in the Champs Élysées area of central Paris, police officials say.
The driver died in the incident. Police found a Kalashnikov rifle, handguns and gas bottles in the car."
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The idea that Islamist fascist attacks in the west, causes you to turn a blind eye to the zionist fascist attacks upon the Palestinians because zionist fascism wears suits made in taylor row is fucking disgusting.
The Children of gaza are not responsible for the bombings that happen in London. And they are as much entitled to life and liberty and your objections to their degradation and decimation as your fucking children.
The Children of gaza are not responsible for the bombings that happen in London. And they are as much entitled to life and liberty and your objections to their degradation and decimation as your fucking children.
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What da Shafiq?shoutinghorse wrote:"Watch your language. Watch your language" = Don't criticise Islam. :naughty:
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Ha ha, don't get me wrong, I think Piers Morgan is a cunt like most people do, but that was well played, pulling up that taqiyya spewing wanker like that. Bravo.
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[quote="Suet Cardigan"]
Would that be the same Finsbury Park mosque where Abu Hamza was an Imam?
Yep that's the one. I have family members living in the same road. Went to their church once, several years ago and it was the Dhimmi vicar and sermon which was the final straw for me and anglicanism.
Yep that's the one. I have family members living in the same road. Went to their church once, several years ago and it was the Dhimmi vicar and sermon which was the final straw for me and anglicanism.
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WTF. Now I just have to raise a strange point here. If I wanted to kill a bunch of cops or innocent people (and really I DO NOT want to do this), I think I could be a lot more successful than these latest attackers. They must not really be planning any of this shit. They are just smashing their vehicles into stuff. Now, granted, the Berlin and Niece truck attacks were very destructive. But, who thinks to run your car into a cop car as an attack? Is this a sign that these latest attacks are more like copy-cat attacks by insane idiots?Easy J wrote:The Mosque van attack story is so previous 24 hours.
"Champs Elysees: Car 'deliberately hits' police van in Paris"
"A car deliberately hit a police van before bursting into flames in the Champs Élysées area of central Paris, police officials say.
The driver died in the incident. Police found a Kalashnikov rifle, handguns and gas bottles in the car."
Even Sam Harris pointed this out in his last podcast (before the Champs Élysées attack).
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My children are entitled to the rights and security provided them by a civilized Western culture, a culture that invented the idea of liberty, and a family that fought and died to preserve it.Za-zen wrote:The idea that Islamist fascist attacks in the west, causes you to turn a blind eye to the zionist fascist attacks upon the Palestinians because zionist fascism wears suits made in taylor row is fucking disgusting.
The Children of gaza are not responsible for the bombings that happen in London. And they are as much entitled to life and liberty and your objections to their degradation and decimation as your fucking children.
Islamic cultures do not believe in liberty, and the people suffer because of it. This is not directly my problem... but... you will notice that the Western people at least try to help these fucking barbarians. Unfortunately, you can lead a whore to culture, but you can't make her think.
Go team Zion!
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Agreed. I've thought the same thing. If you only have one life to cash in & want to do so inspiring terror, do your fucking homework, dammit! It's almost like they don't really mean it & do the bare minimum to check off Allah's martyr boxes. Or they're just really unstable & not capable of more. Like a Muslim equivalent of the homeless crazy that charges the White House with a steak knife.John D wrote:WTF. Now I just have to raise a strange point here. If I wanted to kill a bunch of cops or innocent people (and really I DO NOT want to do this), I think I could be a lot more successful than these latest attackers. They must not really be planning any of this shit. They are just smashing their vehicles into stuff. Now, granted, the Berlin and Niece truck attacks were very destructive. But, who thinks to run your car into a cop car as an attack? Is this a sign that these latest attacks are more like copy-cat attacks by insane idiots?Easy J wrote:The Mosque van attack story is so previous 24 hours.
"Champs Elysees: Car 'deliberately hits' police van in Paris"
"A car deliberately hit a police van before bursting into flames in the Champs Élysées area of central Paris, police officials say.
The driver died in the incident. Police found a Kalashnikov rifle, handguns and gas bottles in the car."
Even Sam Harris pointed this out in his last podcast (before the Champs Élysées attack).
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I don't think it's entirely moot for those of us who have to choose between his party and hers in 2018. Or for those in the Georgia 6th.Kirbmarc wrote:Steersman wrote:It's a moot point by now. He WON, he's the Goddamn President, there's no point in wondering whether he was the lesser of the evils.But I still think he is or was decidely the lesser of two evils, at least at the time of the election; moot whether that still holds.
Which party acts to lessen evils remains an ongoing concern, only individual names have changed.
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So, Brian Cant is now going to Play Away forever.
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All we're getting on the news channels here in the UK is a diatribe of "Rising tide of Islamophobia" .. "Far Right Extremism" .. "Hate speech" .. "Racist attacks" All backed up by every virtue signalling politician and 'expert' they can find. Its almost as if Westminster, Manchester & London Bridge never happened.
Muslims Dindo Nuffin
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That's precisely my reason for supporting fascist Zionists. The suits. Taylor row in fact. All their soldiers wear them. Because Jew.Za-zen wrote:The idea that Islamist fascist attacks in the west, causes you to turn a blind eye to the zionist fascist attacks upon the Palestinians because zionist fascism wears suits made in taylor row is fucking disgusting.
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RIP, Brian. Brought me much joy as a kid.Lsuoma wrote:So, Brian Cant is now going to Play Away forever.
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Yeah:shoutinghorse wrote:All we're getting on the news channels here in the UK is a diatribe of "Rising tide of Islamophobia" .. "Far Right Extremism" .. "Hate speech" .. "Racist attacks" All backed up by every virtue signalling politician and 'expert' they can find. Its almost as if Westminster, Manchester & London Bridge never happened.
Muslims Dindo Nuffin
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Sure a bunch of slow-learners floating about gumming-up the works and preventing a rational response to the barbarism and savagery and manifest ignorance that IS Islam.
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Meanwhile the clatter of sabres rattling becomes louder:
http://www.newsweek.com/russia-attack-u ... ary-627241
Could be bad news if the Russkies shoot down American planes.
http://www.newsweek.com/russia-attack-u ... ary-627241
Could be bad news if the Russkies shoot down American planes.