Give Me a Urinal or Give Me Death!

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Found it. The flounce wasn't that entertaining, but this was hilarious:

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Small treat for the Pit.

He goes on criticizing a pre-production atheist film.
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Just skip to this part about pz myers. (23 minutes & 40 seconds in, link below predirected)

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New Pit hymn?

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Oh no, we are not letting you off that easily Phil. You are going to have to come up with something yourself.

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Only cowards chase foxes with hounds. Real men club them with a bike lock.

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Post by Matt Cavanaugh »

feathers wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:My above:

"does not conflict not correlate"

should be

does not conflict nor correlate"
I'd say:
* does not conflict or correlate
or, alternatively
* does neither conflicts nor correlates

Either or both?
Either, with correction to the second.

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Post by Sunder »

deLurch wrote:Small treat for the Pit.

He goes on criticizing a pre-production atheist film.
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Just skip to this part about pz myers. (23 minutes & 40 seconds in, link below predirected)
I've never seen this guy before but he seems likable and shrewd. And of course he's absolutely on the money with Paul.

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Post by MarcusAu »

Shatterface wrote:Only cowards chase foxes with hounds. Real men club them with a bike lock.
We should probably consult all parties before making a decision.

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And of course when going clubbing the right choice of music is important.

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In its statement, the court said it did not matter that the comments had not originated from the defendant, whose name was not given.

“By clicking the ‘like’ button, the defendant clearly endorsed the unseemly content and made it his own,” the court statement said.

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Brive1987 wrote:
In its statement, the court said it did not matter that the comments had not originated from the defendant, whose name was not given.

“By clicking the ‘like’ button, the defendant clearly endorsed the unseemly content and made it his own,” the court statement said.
Well, that seems reasonable and not at all draconian or chilling. :bjarte:
I am certain some quarters will cheer this turn of events. At least until it is applied to them.

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PZ has instantly jumped on the Portland thing.
Two good men gave their lives in Portland to defend innocent women from a right-wing hate-monger
He must still be working up his Manchester piece.

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Post by Phil_Giordana_FCD »

I'm just gonna leave here the lyrics to that masterpiece at the top of the page...


Fuck you, you're a fucking wanker
We're gonna punch you right in the balls
Fuck you, with a fucking anchor
You're all cunts so fuck you all

Fuck you, you're a fucking wanker
We're gonna punch you right in the balls
Fuck you, with a fucking anchor
You're all cunts so fuck you all

Go!

For thirty odd years I have lived with this curse
My vocabulary was stunted at birth
By a witch doctor from over the seas
Casting a strange voodoo magic on me
Now when I speak, it's rather absurd
An endless tirade of four letter words
I lash out in anger at all in my way
Shocking, unspeakable things that I say

Fuck you, you're a fucking wanker
We're gonna punch you right in the balls
Fuck you, with a fucking anchor
You're all cunts so fuck you all

Fuck you, you're a fucking wanker
We're gonna punch you right in the balls
Fuck you, with a fucking anchor
You're all cunts so fuck you all

Fuck you!

Long I have waited to have my revenge
To bring that witch doctor to his bitter end
So I have gathered a ship and a crew
We're sailing to find him we know what to do
On a dark moonless night, when he least suspects
We'll creep up behind him, so hard to detect
We'll bring out our anchor by the light of the stars
And shove it inside of his big fucking arse!

Fuck you, you're a fucking wanker
We're gonna punch you right in the balls
Fuck you, with a fucking anchor
You're all cunts so fuck you all

Fuck you, you're a fucking wanker
We're gonna punch you right in the balls
Fuck you, with a fucking anchor
You're all cunts so fuck you all

Fuck you, you're a fucking wanker
We're gonna punch you right in the balls
Fuck you, with a fucking anchor
You're all cunts so fuck you all

Fuck you, you're a fucking wanker
We're gonna punch you right in the balls
Fuck you, with a fucking anchor
You're all cunts so fuck you all

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MarcusAu wrote:Oh no, we are not letting you off that easily Phil. You are going to have to come up with something yourself.
Just you all come along with lyrics, and I'll work something out.

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Post by deLurch »

And now for something different.

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Post by MarcusAu »

Brive1987 wrote:PZ has instantly jumped on the Portland thing.
Two good men gave their lives in Portland to defend innocent women from a right-wing hate-monger
He must still be working up his Manchester piece.

:bjarte:

Did you notice that his response to Lindsay & Boghossian's paper was just to change the subject to Evo Psych?

As far as Gender Studies goes he did not want to be on the defensive. There is clearly at the very least a PR problem with the whole field - and more not less critical input is needed if they are going to sort things out.

But the problem just goes away if no one talks about it.

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Post by Phil_Giordana_FCD »

Really, who gives a fuck about what Myers says these days aside from his remaining sycophants? The guy is toast (the over-burned type, not the delicious type).

He's a fucking joke.

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Post by MarcusAu »

It's a nice sentiment Phil - but I think if he just crawled away and died the 'Pit would just fade away...

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Phil_Giordana_FCD wrote:
MarcusAu wrote:Oh no, we are not letting you off that easily Phil. You are going to have to come up with something yourself.
Just you all come along with lyrics, and I'll work something out.
We love sperm on our face
We obsess about race
And we're all unemployable out in the real world

We're in a 'love Islam' phase
Though they hate women and gays
And a cold, slimy slug gets our weiner unfurled

Bridge
It's always time to whine and gather pity
With the FTB Ethics Committee

Chorus
So shout about rape
And listen and believe
Stollznow is a victim
And we're never blocking Steve

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Composed by teenage genderfluid wrongskin transkin dogs

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Brive1987 wrote:Amanzing fact #178: Poland sent a three man team to Madagascar in 1937 to investigate if they could dump their Jews there, anticipating the Nazis by three years.

Cheers mate.

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Catholic country isn't it, Poland?

"Yeah, take 'em all. Just...do whatever you want with them, good workers these. When do you wan.....hey, what are you doing with those ones? No, no, no, leave the kids here. We'll er, you know, no point shipping children over, they can't do any work. Yeah, just...just leave them here, the Cardinal's going to make sure they're shared properly. HOUSED properly, damnit, sorry, slip of the tongue. Ooh, as the priest said!!!!

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Za-zen wrote:Would be interesting to know, if you support the use of British violence in any political context. Let's say the latest Afghanistan and/or iraq interventions. How about the first world war, or the falklands perhaps? When in your estimation is violence justifiable?
It's quarter past ten and I've had two bottles of beer.

I'm not going to write a detailed essay on the fact that I recognise, as do all sane and morally grounded people that no wars can ever be 'justified' under any circumstances, in the sense that as you survey a battlefield of maggot-invested eviscerated corpses you can make a judgement that this or that geo-political or economic gain makes it all worth it.

I can't justify the war you left out. The second world war. I can't justify the fact that it stemmed from the Treaty of Versailles which itself stemmed from a war caused in large part by treaties written as part of the colonial "great game" of the late 19th century. I can't justify the disastrous appeasement policy of Chamberlain. Neither can I justify the selling down the river of the country whose invasion triggered Britain's entry into that war, and condemned the first mentioned country to a regime every bit as brutal as the one from whom they were 'saved'.

All the above is true, but to run away with the Black-And-White-Thinking easy emotional answer that all the suffering is down to "British Violence" is wrong. None of the above wars were caused because one person, or one entity who had a simple, clear choice between war and peace. Rather, as anyone who has made even a cursory study of these things knows, some decisions are taken, by some parties or individuals, at some point, which limit the choices made at a later date, by other people.

We know the complex causes and how they can play out. Nobody intelligent is reading this and expects some new insight from me that anybody else has missed. It may be embarrassing to be part of a species which solves its problems in this way, but it is facile in the extreme to just arbitrarily point to someone and say that they are more guilty than we are, just because they live on a neighbouring island.

Example of the first world war. Britain's entry was to defend the neutrality of Belgium. This had been agreed precisely because it was thought it would the keep the peace. With hindsight we can say whether or not it worked. Can we say that it was not 'justifiable' to make such a treaty and seek to enforce it ?

Was Jack Kennedy 'justified' in taking a hard, hawkish line in the Cuban Missile Crisis ? Was Chamberlain justified in 'keeping the peace' by giving old Hitler Czechoslovakia ? With hindsight we know those answers too.

So you'll have to forgive me if I eschew the currently fashionable position of claiming that one's own country (or alternatively one's least favoured country) is the only one with agency and had the power to avert all and every example of suffering because everyone else is a powerless victim.

I'm not claiming, though, that I think Britain has always played its single card very well during some of the recent crises. I am claiming that this doesn't constitute the moral equivalence of the Eric Clantons of the world, with or without Semtex (Though, of course, the consequences are many orders of magnitude more severe)

I will assert one thing, though, which is that I agree with the differentiations made between combatants and non-combatants according to the Geneva conventions. I do believe we can hold everyone to the same standards based on these principles.

So there it is, me old South-Park-Light-Sabre-Death-Cult-Apologist dude. You might think you have won by provoking an essay - which took a third bottle of beer which is all I have in the house - with a cheapo moral equivalence claim.

But Guess What ? This isn't really for you !

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feathers wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:My above:

"does not conflict not correlate"

should be

does not conflict nor correlate"
I'd say:
* does not conflict or correlate
or, alternatively
* does neither conflict nor correlate

Either or both?
And I'd say shove it up your foreign arse. Coming over here, trying to tell us how to speak proper...

:D

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Billie from Ockham wrote:
Guest_fb005c9e wrote:If Aneris hadn't flounced....
Oh, my. When did that happen? Was it exciting?
It was a gas.

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https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/imag ... ACGRTESVxw

This iconic pic drove me crazy. I found where it happened, all nice and historic still. But the building didn't exist.

It will take an info graphic to explain.

I know. "Don't bother"

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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
Billie from Ockham wrote:
Guest_fb005c9e wrote:If Aneris hadn't flounced....
Oh, my. When did that happen? Was it exciting?
It was a gas.
I remember a long time ago that she started getting tetchy when I called her on the "Krautland is the best ever!" schtick she had going on. Bet she really seemed to change into a different person a couple of months ago.

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Post by Billie from Ockham »

That's sad.

What's also sad is that I thought Aneris was a guy.

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Got my paper in yesterday.

I decided to fuck with them by arguing that the holocaust was a second order administrative footnote to the far more encompassing global Jewish War that manifested in June and December 1941 - pragmatically the realisation of Weltanschauung in Russia was the main game.

Jews in France and couped up in Poland? Don't sweat the small stuff. Just sort them out. Like we did in Russia.

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Post by Really? »

Republican lawmaker in Texas tells Democrats he called ICE (immigration authorities) on the protesters outside the gallery. Hilarity ensues.

Notice how the Washington Post is very careful to let us know which is the good side and which is the bad.
Lawmakers scuffled on the floor of the Texas House of Representatives on Monday after a Dallas-area Republican told Democrats that he called Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers on protesters in the House gallery.

“We were just on the floor talking about the SB4 protests, and [state Rep.] Matt Rinaldi came up to us and made it a point to say, ‘I called (ICE) on all of them,’ ” state Rep. Philip Cortez (D) said. “And this is completely unacceptable. We will not be intimidated. We will not be disrespected.”
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Billie from Ockham wrote:That's sad.

What's also sad is that I thought Aneris was a guy.
Yeah, I think Aneris is a geezer too. He played on the ambiguity but I'm pretty sure it's a he too.

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And also, I was under the impression that there weren't any girls posting on the internet.

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DrokkIt wrote:snip

There are considerable problems with both parties. Labour would be forced to either borrow HUGE sums or break it's manifesto commitments, Conservatives would bring back fox hunting, lift the ivory trade ban, bring in the dementia tax and break the internet.

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It is my understanding that the UK Government did not cede sovereignty of its currency to the European Union, therefore it does not need to borrow from anyone to fund expenditure. The Government's capacity to purchase goods and services in the UK economy with UK pounds is technically unlimited (although there are many reasons why it wouldn't and shouldn't do this). It in effect spends money into existence through its purchasing power as sovereign issuer of the currency, and takes money out of the economy through taxation to control inflation and other socio-economic goods (taxation no longer funds expenditure in the modern electronic economy).

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Oglebart wrote:
Billie from Ockham wrote:That's sad.

What's also sad is that I thought Aneris was a guy.
Yeah, I think Aneris is a geezer too. He played on the ambiguity but I'm pretty sure it's a he too.
Would it shock you to realise I'm a pert blonde with a daddy complex?

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Brive1987 wrote:
Oglebart wrote:
Billie from Ockham wrote:That's sad.

What's also sad is that I thought Aneris was a guy.
Yeah, I think Aneris is a geezer too. He played on the ambiguity but I'm pretty sure it's a he too.
Would it shock you to realise I'm a pert blonde with a daddy complex?
Not at all.

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piginthecity wrote: Example of the first world war. Britain's entry was to defend the neutrality of Belgium. This had been agreed precisely because it was thought it would the keep the peace.
That's a nearly universally-believed pile of bullshit.

A small coterie of francophile senior British officers, with Asquith's approval, entered into a secret defensive treaty with France. It was kept secret from the British people and from Parliament. The French & British general staffs drew up plans to violate the neutrality of Belgium in case of war with Germany. As Niall Ferguson points out, you keep offensive alliances secret but you make defensive ones known to deter potential aggressors.


Also little known is that in 1917, Germany offered to the Belgians to vacate Belgium and pay large reparations. The British & French virtually kidnapped Leopold to ensure he would not accept.

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Brive1987 wrote:Got my paper in yesterday.

I decided to fuck with them by arguing that the holocaust was a second order administrative footnote to the far more encompassing global Jewish War that manifested in June and December 1941 - pragmatically the realisation of Weltanschauung in Russia was the main game.

Jews in France and couped up in Poland? Don't sweat the small stuff. Just sort them out. Like we did in Russia.
You should've told them to take you off their fucking mailing list.

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Post by Matt Cavanaugh »

ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
feathers wrote:
ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:My above:

"does not conflict not correlate"

should be

does not conflict nor correlate"
I'd say:
* does not conflict or correlate
or, alternatively
* does neither conflict nor correlate

Either or both?
And I'd say shove it up your foreign arse ass. Coming over here, trying to tell us how to speak proper...

:D
FTFY.

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jet_lagg wrote:
Linus wrote:Do you know of some scientists who critiqued the lichen paper after it was revealed to be a hoax?
I know of one, yes. Because you quoted them.
That was the author of the paper revealing the hoax. You didn't address my other question, which was why would the someone write a critique of a revealed hoax paper?
Any reviewer with more than a high-school knowledge of chemistry and the ability to understand a basic data plot should have spotted the paper's short-comings immediately. Its experiments are so hopelessly flawed that the results are meaningless.
Contrast with something like the Ern Malley poetry hoax, which is much more akin to the conceptual penis affair than the computer science and lichen paper were. The hoaxers didn't go on to say "anybody with a more than a high school knowledge of modernist verse should have spotted the shortcomings." Their point was that the shortcomings were impossible to spot because the satire was indistinguishable from the real thing. If real works from any endeavor look like bullshit and bullshit looks like real works from the endeavor, is it possible that the endeavor actually is bullshit?[/quote]

They absolutely did not claim that its shortcomings were impossible to spot. They used fake references, claimed it had no discernible meaning and that much of it was word salad. If its shortcomings were impossible to spot then surely they would have been able to get it published in a Gender Studies journal? Or a journal with an impact factor? Or a journal that was not pay-to-publish? You seem to be presuming that a Gender Studies researcher wouldn't have been able to spot the flaws in the paper, which theoretically could be true for all I know, but the fact that it was published and the fact that one wrote a critique of it aren't evidence of that.

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*the fact that no one wrote a critique of it

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“Sgt. Pepper’s,” you see, is the album that marked the shift in rock music away from the grubby fingers of the teenybopper crowd and into the hushed halls of Great Art. It was the transition album that turned rock from a debased music for ponytailed fans twisting the night away to music for grown men whose tastes are far too refined to worry about whether a pop song has a beat you can dance to.

“Sgt. Pepper’s” was the point when rock stopped being the music of girls and started being the music of men.

“‘Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band’ was the album that made it possible and intelligible for people to say that a rock ’n’ roll album had changed music,” writes Jack Hamilton for Slate, explaining why this album tends to rate above all others in the annals of pop music.

But during all this celebration, I’d like to take the time to pour one out for teenyboppers, who always get there first and all too rarely get the credit for it. In fact, the fate of the teenybopper is to watch her music get sneered at, right up until it gets taken away and turned into a respectable art form that it’s OK for grown men to like.

The Beatles, of course, are the most iconic example of this trajectory. When the quartet from Liverpool started releasing albums, their fans were mostly teenage girls who were frequently mocked for the hysterical outpouring of enthusiasm that clearly was an uncorking of repressed lust. Girls liked the Beatles because they wanted to fuck the Beatles (or so the theory went), and the whole thing was kind of embarrassing, even for the men at the center of the enterprise who were getting rich and famous off all that female desire.

It’s no surprise, then, that the Beatles’ shift toward a more respectable and artistic branding meant shedding their sex appeal. The “Sgt. Pepper” album cover features the Fab Four dressed in goofy-looking uniforms that couldn’t be better suited to repel the female gaze. Beyond the title track and “Lucy in the Sky with the Diamonds,” there’s very little on the record that makes a lady want to shake her hips on the dance floor.

“Sgt. Pepper” is a good pop record, don’t get me wrong. But it’s a record I resent, because it helped cement this notion that music for girls is silly and music for men is artistically significant. It’s a notion that is doubly appalling because history shows, time and time again, that girl-tastes are the ones that are ahead of the curve.

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salon com/2017/05/29/against-sgt-pepper-the-beatles-classic-made-pop-seem-male-nerdy-and-important-and-that-wasnt-a-good-thing/

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Oglebart wrote:
Billie from Ockham wrote:That's sad.

What's also sad is that I thought Aneris was a guy.
Yeah, I think Aneris is a geezer too. He played on the ambiguity but I'm pretty sure it's a he too.
There seemed to be an 80% chance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_autism

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Brive1987 wrote:Would it shock you to realise I'm a pert blonde with a daddy complex?
Shock me? No.

Trigger me? Well, let's just say that Donald Trump isn't the only American male who (objectively) believes that his own daughter is hot.

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Is anyone going to flounce over the hoax-paper debate?

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MarcusAu wrote: Since this is conversation is still shambling on...James Lindsay has done a couple of interviews in which he comments on what they were trying to do, and what it does, and does not prove

Lalo Dagach podcast:
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Godless Spellchecker (Stephen Knight)
https://www.gspellchecker.com/category/gspodcast/

Anyone interested probably can pick one - as it would be a bit redundant to listen to both.
Here's a more critical interview done with James Lindsay, on Serious Pod: http://seriouspod.com/sio45-james-linds ... oax-paper/

Here's the previous episode of Serious Pod, prior to the Lindsay interview, in which Serious Pod tears apart the hoax / Skeptic article: http://seriouspod.com/sio44-debunking-c ... i-bosnick/

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Guest_440911e7 wrote: “Sgt. Pepper’s,” you see, is the album that marked the shift in rock music away from the grubby fingers of the teenybopper crowd and into the hushed halls of Great Art. It was the transition album that turned rock from a debased music for ponytailed fans twisting the night away to music for grown men whose tastes are far too refined to worry about whether a pop song has a beat you can dance to.

“Sgt. Pepper’s” was the point when rock stopped being the music of girls and started being the music of men.

“‘Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band’ was the album that made it possible and intelligible for people to say that a rock ’n’ roll album had changed music,” writes Jack Hamilton for Slate, explaining why this album tends to rate above all others in the annals of pop music.

But during all this celebration, I’d like to take the time to pour one out for teenyboppers, who always get there first and all too rarely get the credit for it. In fact, the fate of the teenybopper is to watch her music get sneered at, right up until it gets taken away and turned into a respectable art form that it’s OK for grown men to like.


The Beatles, of course, are the most iconic example of this trajectory. When the quartet from Liverpool started releasing albums, their fans were mostly teenage girls who were frequently mocked for the hysterical outpouring of enthusiasm that clearly was an uncorking of repressed lust. Girls liked the Beatles because they wanted to fuck the Beatles (or so the theory went), and the whole thing was kind of embarrassing, even for the men at the center of the enterprise who were getting rich and famous off all that female desire.

It’s no surprise, then, that the Beatles’ shift toward a more respectable and artistic branding meant shedding their sex appeal. The “Sgt. Pepper” album cover features the Fab Four dressed in goofy-looking uniforms that couldn’t be better suited to repel the female gaze. Beyond the title track and “Lucy in the Sky with the Diamonds,” there’s very little on the record that makes a lady want to shake her hips on the dance floor.

“Sgt. Pepper” is a good pop record, don’t get me wrong. But it’s a record I resent, because it helped cement this notion that music for girls is silly and music for men is artistically significant. It’s a notion that is doubly appalling because history shows, time and time again, that girl-tastes are the ones that are ahead of the curve.

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salon com/2017/05/29/against-sgt-pepper-the-beatles-classic-made-pop-seem-male-nerdy-and-important-and-that-wasnt-a-good-thing/
Cannot believe a bunch of grown men decided they could not perform teenybopper music anymore. Becoming grownups and writing music for grownups? What were they thinking? Besides it all helped to set the stage for the arrival of the most important band ever in the history of R&R, the Ramones. Nothing more than 3 chords, no longer than 3 minutes and no fucking guitar solos. And no synths or overdubs, OK, a tiny little bit of overdubbing. Genius.

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I should add that after the Lindsay interview on Serious Pod, Thomas Smith also addresses some of the @RealPeerReview articles (still not something I've looked into, aside from listening to the episode, but Thomas' descriptions made some of the criticisms seem really strawmanish).

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I remember some cunt in The Guardian trying to connect the fact The Beatles released The White Album the same year Martin Luther King was shot.

Cunts are gonna cunt.

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Brive1987 wrote:
Oglebart wrote:Yeah, I think Aneris is a geezer too. He played on the ambiguity but I'm pretty sure it's a he too.
Would it shock you to realise I'm a pert blonde with a daddy complex?
Yes. You pass as a man very well.

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Feminist researcher invents ‘intersectional quantum physics’ to fight ‘oppression’ of Newton
https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/32830/

Stark identifies Newtonian physics as one of the main culprits behind oppression. “Newtonian physics,” she writes, has “separated beings” based on their “binary and absolute differences.”

“This structural thinking of individualized separatism with binary and absolute differences as the basis for how the universe works is embedded in many structures of classification,” according to Stark.

These structures of classification, such as male/female, or living/non-living, are “hierarchical and exploitative” and are thusly “part of the apparatus that enables oppression.”
It is oppressive to distinguish between the living and non-living. I guess we'll all have to add a spot of necrophilia to our sex lives to fight oppression.

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Shatterface wrote:I remember some cunt in The Guardiantrying to connect the fact The Beatles released The White Album the same year Martin Luther King was shot.

Cunts are gonna cunt.
I think you accidentally typed extra words.

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MacGruberKnows wrote:
Cannot believe a bunch of grown men decided they could not perform teenybopper music anymore. Becoming grownups and writing music for grownups? What were they thinking? Besides it all helped to set the stage for the arrival of the most important band ever in the history of R&R, the Ramones. Nothing more than 3 chords, no longer than 3 minutes and no fucking guitar solos. And no synths or overdubs, OK, a tiny little bit of overdubbing. Genius.
Loved the Ramones. Got to see them in concert just before they started dying off. And Rock-n-Roll High School has a special place in my heart.

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Linus wrote:I should add that after the Lindsay interview on Serious Pod, Thomas Smith also addresses some of the @RealPeerReview articles (still not something I've looked into, aside from listening to the episode, but Thomas' descriptions made some of the criticisms seem really strawmanish).
Oh boy, you're in for a ride.

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A study of the DNA from 151 mummies entombed around 1400 BCE show that they were as white as people from modern Turkey, so can people stop shrieking "WHITEWASHING!" every time Hollywood makes a movie set in ancient Egypt and doesn't cast Idris Elba in every role? Probably not. I also expect the Afrocentrists will come up with some conspiracy explaining why it isn't true.
BTW- and interesting finding is that modern Egyptians are darker skinned than their ancestors and the theory is the introduction of sub-Saharan African DNA due to the slave trade.

http://www.newsweek.com/egyptian-mummy- ... ope-617767

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katamari Damassi wrote:A study of the DNA from 151 mummies entombed around 1400 BCE show that they were as white as people from modern Turkey, so can people stop shrieking "WHITEWASHING!" every time Hollywood makes a movie set in ancient Egypt and doesn't cast Idris Elba in every role? Probably not. I also expect the Afrocentrists will come up with some conspiracy explaining why it isn't true.
BTW- and interesting finding is that modern Egyptians are darker skinned than their ancestors and the theory is the introduction of sub-Saharan African DNA due to the slave trade.

http://www.newsweek.com/egyptian-mummy- ... ope-617767
In the same vein and only a week ago: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017 ... ists-find/
Currently, most experts believe that our human lineage split from apes around seven million years ago in central Africa, where hominids remained for the next five million years before venturing further afield.

But two fossils of an ape-like creature which had human-like teeth have been found in Bulgaria and Greece, dating to 7.2 million years ago.

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Link to a silly refutation of the hoax article.
More retarded bullshit from peer-reviewed gender studies journals:
I noticed Linus came around to dump on the Boghossian and Lindsay. Did xir finally name a gender studies journal that isn't full of retarded bullshit that has nothing to do with reason, thought or the scientific method?

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Simian Feminism is best illustrated by a female gorilla being fossey when choosing a mate.

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Amanda Marcotte should fuck off and go and listen to her Tori Amos MP3s.

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3000 posts up for The Commander.

That's 3000 stakes through the hearts of SJWs, Baboons, and PZ 'Beardchops' Myers. That's 3000 punches landing on SJW targets. That's 3000 kicks to the SJW groins. That's 3000 shouts for freedom.

Fuck off, PZ.

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Keating wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:
Oglebart wrote:Yeah, I think Aneris is a geezer too. He played on the ambiguity but I'm pretty sure it's a he too.
Would it shock you to realise I'm a pert blonde with a daddy complex?
Yes. You pass as a man very well.
Thank you. Your girl face was, quite frankly, a disappointment. Might have been the crooked mascara.

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Matt Cavanaugh wrote:
Brive1987 wrote:Got my paper in yesterday.

I decided to fuck with them by arguing that the holocaust was a second order administrative footnote to the far more encompassing global Jewish War that manifested in June and December 1941 - pragmatically the realisation of Weltanschauung in Russia was the main game.

Jews in France and couped up in Poland? Don't sweat the small stuff. Just sort them out. Like we did in Russia.
You should've told them to take you off their fucking mailing list.

But I pay the University to stay informed. But I will file your advice for future reference.

There will come a time ......

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