mutleyeng wrote:in all fairness to one of our new friends, if the forum carries on growing at this steady pace, sooner or later this single thread tradition is going to get seriously strained, don't you think?
Just sayin...might be summut to start thinking about
While I agree, Al, I'm not the brightest of (cough) "brights" on the 'net, even *I* figured out you mean some and not all.Al Stefanelli wrote:That is a logical and reasoned assumptionmikelf wrote:At the risk of going all Steersman on you, when you title the video "An Atheist Cult: Those Radicals From Freethought Blogs, Atheism Plus, Etc. " and make statements like you did at 1:21 to 1:25, 2:57 to 3:00, and between 5:15 to 6:53, you have to expect that they may not be able to discern the subtlety "they are acting like a cult" and "they are a cult."Al Stefanelli wrote:I just don't get how someone can read and listen to something and still manage to totally fuck it up:
http://www.alstefanelli.com/McKen5.jpg
It is not that I don't agree with you. I do. But, I think you are expecting a little too much from them to grasp the difference.
Like I said to my gf (and I think in a comment on the vid), The analogy isn't "Your right to wave your arms ends at my face, so your right to speak ends where my feelings get hurt." that's a bullshit comparison. The correct analogy would be "Your right to wave your arms around ends at my face, so your right to say things ends when it's a magical incantation that explodes my head." Saying you can't say things that hurt people's feelings is like saying you're allowed to wave your arms around until someone interprets is as a *ist gesture, so you should have your fucking arms tied behind your back so you never do it again. Fuck those people and fuck their feelings.Stretchycheese wrote:Another thing. Esteleth's point reminds me of that Space Moose comic, with a character saying "your rights end where my feelings begin." Essentially, they object to people who want to ridicule or satirize radfem dogma and don't think people should have that right because it "hurts feelings." Not only does this attitude confirm Paula Kirby's observations regarding "totalitarian thought" in FTB circles, but it's extremely hypocritical. The huge amount of vitriol and invective coming out of their camp is intended to "hurt feelings" after all. PZ has has heaped enormous amounts of ridicule and mockery towards Roman Catholic and other religious viewpoints and they don't give a damn if they hurt feelings.ReneeHendricks wrote:Freaking awesome vid! "Why 'Feminism' is poisoning Atheism"
*Snip*
Thank you, Thunderfoot!
There was a case at a UK university where student authorities sought to silence atheist groups from ridiculing Islamic beliefs. I can easily see how an Islamic PC advocate can make the same argument as Esteleth, word for word, to silence or ban comics like "Jesus and Mo" in the public sphere. It seems to, based on their actions, that the FTB/A+ camp isn't saying "your rights end where my feelings begin" but is actually saying "your rights end where MY feelings begin -- not yours, MINE!"
I know. Tell me about it .Tkmlac wrote: What. The. Fuck. Where was I when they were having this conversation??
"Hey guys, I have a feeling our fuck toys are sentient beings called, "wymyn." What do we do?"
I reply as I find themEucliwood wrote:Yeah, I'm pretty sure I already "moved on" from that and said "fine, alright". I would appreciate it if people didnt comment on simple suggestions over and over.welch wrote:Over personalizing just a tish there. There's a reason for no edit button, and it's not changing anytime soon. Relax, adapt, and move onEucliwood wrote:AchronTimeless wrote:No, what an edit button is really good for is people trying to pull their foot out of their mouth after they jam it in there pretty deep. If you can't have accountability on your own, the forum will help you with that.Eucliwood wrote: Again... an edit button would really help for oneafteranother posts.
It's not a bug, it's a feature.
Um, that's cool but that's clearly not what I wanted an edit button for. First, you complain about how many posts I post in a forum that already has so many posts by everyone collectively, and then when I suggest an edit button to put posts all in one post (since I read, make a post, then see something else I want to reply to, make another post, or add something to a post I already posted, which can result in three posts in a row), you act like I'm some sort of sneak that wants to hide something?
Nope. Nothing for FfTB to quote-mine here. :lol:papillon wrote: I know. Tell me about it .
I got such a shock when I went down to the cellar to feed mine, then all of a sudden she expressed an opinion!
My hands were shaking so much, I dropped the plate of raw meat, locked the cage, ran upstairs and phoned my local Patriarchy
chapter for advice.
Needless to say, I'll be demanding a refund. I ordered a fuck toy, not a fucking headache.
Looks like he sold me a lemon.
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!welch wrote:mutleyeng wrote:in all fairness to one of our new friends, if the forum carries on growing at this steady pace, sooner or later this single thread tradition is going to get seriously strained, don't you think?
Just sayin...might be summut to start thinking about
fuck that shit, MOAR CHAOS
That last sentence reflected my thoughts exactly. It makes it all the more painful he's not here anymore.Gumby wrote:A good comment from TF00t's vid:
The right to free speech ends when someone is offended? Ha! HAHA! HAHAHAHAHA! Can you imagine where the atheist movement would be if that was the case? Fuck my life!
These people are a fucking disgrace! I wish Hitches was still around just for the possibility that he would SHIT ALL OVER THEM.
Oooh, how did I miss that? I watched it right to the end, but senility must have had me for that moment. I will download it now. If anyone wants a copy too, I can put it on my domain for download.Gumby wrote:Re: Thunderf00t's video.
At the very end he calls for people to download and/or mirror the video, given the usual silencing tactics that are likely to be employed by FTB and Skepchick. I tried to download it but for some reason my video downloading program is crapping out. If anyone else can do it, please have at it. *shines ScentedNectarSignal on backdrop of clouds*
I think he's the douche that was misconstruing Al's latest video, though I can't remember for sure.ReneeHendricks wrote:Hmm. Apparently someone (Joe McKen - @joemcken) is transcribing Al's latest video.
Thanks. It looks like at least one other person mirrored it:Scented Nectar wrote:Oooh, how did I miss that? I watched it right to the end, but senility must have had me for that moment. I will download it now. If anyone wants a copy too, I can put it on my domain for download.Gumby wrote:Re: Thunderf00t's video.
At the very end he calls for people to download and/or mirror the video, given the usual silencing tactics that are likely to be employed by FTB and Skepchick. I tried to download it but for some reason my video downloading program is crapping out. If anyone else can do it, please have at it. *shines ScentedNectarSignal on backdrop of clouds*
Off to do all that now!
Ironically, that would make it qualified for the A+Scribe project. Lol. I actually already have a transcript. Be interesting to see how accurate his is.ReneeHendricks wrote:Hmm. Apparently someone (Joe McKen - @joemcken) is transcribing Al's latest video.
Thank you. :DGumby wrote:A good comment from TF00t's vid:
The right to free speech ends when someone is offended? Ha! HAHA! HAHAHAHAHA! Can you imagine where the atheist movement would be if that was the case? Fuck my life!
These people are a fucking disgrace! I wish Hitches was still around just for the possibility that he would SHIT ALL OVER THEM.
I'm interested as well.Al Stefanelli wrote:Ironically, that would make it qualified for the A+Scribe project. Lol. I actually already have a transcript. Be interesting to see how accurate his is.ReneeHendricks wrote:Hmm. Apparently someone (Joe McKen - @joemcken) is transcribing Al's latest video.
Word.Gumby wrote:Yes it is. One of the best descriptions of the Baboons and their dishonest tactics, ever.Za-zen wrote:Thunder's latest vid is a winner.
That was you? Good one!JackRayner wrote:Thank you. :DGumby wrote:A good comment from TF00t's vid:
The right to free speech ends when someone is offended? Ha! HAHA! HAHAHAHAHA! Can you imagine where the atheist movement would be if that was the case? Fuck my life!
These people are a fucking disgrace! I wish Hitches was still around just for the possibility that he would SHIT ALL OVER THEM.
He means all you're doing is posting META.Eucliwood wrote:Content free crap such as? (Can someone do me a favor and ask what he means)?
Darren, it was a simple suggestion and people kept bringing it up. It takes two (or more) to tango, so please stop acting like its my fault that a long discussion ensued about editting, etc. I said the edit thing cos people started complaining about my post count. I said if I could edit stuff, it wouldn't be as much of a problem. After being explained why to, I didnt keep proposing it, and I took back my proposals of chat and editting, yet conversation still went on.Darren wrote:He means all you're doing is posting META.Eucliwood wrote:Content free crap such as? (Can someone do me a favor and ask what he means)?
Seriously, I wasn't going to say anything since everybody else was already dogpiling, but I've just waded through two and a half pages of meta-discussion about edit buttons and ignore lists... WTF? This forum has been here for 6 months and it is run the way it is because that's what was found to work best for us. Nobody likes the new kid showing up and telling us how to run our show. If that's all you are going to do, you are not going to make may friends around here.
So please, for our benefit as much as your own, take a break. Walk away and stop posting for a while. When you come back, please ask yourself the following questions before posting:
1. Is my post about the forum itself?
2. Is my post about how people are engaging me on the forum?
3. Does my post add nothing of value to the discussion?
If you answer "yes" to any of these questions, please do not post. Heck, even #3 is negotiable, but you need to contribute something every now and then: it could be just a pithy comment that only 10% of people will find amusing, or perhaps a completely gratituous and unjustified use of the word "cunt".
Now, having done my bit to contribute to the problem, I'm going back to page whateveritis I was on.
:-)Tigzy wrote:Eucliwood, I can't wait for you to meet Steersman. :P
Depends. If she announced via T-shirt that she was a pilot -not a pilot chick-, then she is a gender traitor for sure.somedumbguy wrote:
In college I was lucky enough to join a extracurricular flight school associated with the college.
The person that ran this flight school was an Olympic swimmer in 1932. During WWII, she joined the WASPS (Women Airforce Service Pilots) where she flew, I believe, more than 25 different kinds of military aircraft, from fighters to bombers, ferrying them from where they were manufactured across the US to Nova Scotia where they would be flown across the Atlantic.
After the war, she won the Powder Puff derby and at some point that helped her become associated with the college I went to, where she started, led, ran, administered this flying program which involved not just scheduling students, but writing the curriculum, managing aircraft, hangar and maintenance, finding instructors (beside herself), and still flying and instructing probably 20 or more hours each week.
Among her students were some of the first women that became commercial airline pilots, as well as a couple of future astronauts (though none of those were women to the best of my knowledge.)
She also voted and strongly supported Ronald Reagan. (Which was when I was in school.)
QUIZ:
Would A+ Septic Feminism consider this women a feminist? A friend, or an enemy?
It's simply impossible to follow the comments on the video atm, as far as I can tell it hasn't been up for even 2 hours yet afaik, and got 1000+ thumbs up and 500+ comments, and it's probably grow even faster, seeing as TheAmazingAtheist just left a comment, favorited and commented on it, making at least some of his 300.000+ subscribers go check it out as well...Gumby wrote:A good comment from TF00t's vid:
The right to free speech ends when someone is offended? Ha! HAHA! HAHAHAHAHA! Can you imagine where the atheist movement would be if that was the case? Fuck my life!
These people are a fucking disgrace! I wish Hitches was still around just for the possibility that he would SHIT ALL OVER THEM.
It will be interesting to find out how TAM goes next time around. Will the Skepchick/FfTB liars and professional victims stay away, as they have strongly implied, or will they double down and try once again for a hostile takeover? I hope DJ Grothe has the fucking sense not to invite any of these people who tried to malign and destroy him and JREF as speakers. He seems to be an overly "peacekeeping" sort, though. He may actually try to extend the olive branch.BarnOwl wrote:Word.Gumby wrote:Yes it is. One of the best descriptions of the Baboons and their dishonest tactics, ever.Za-zen wrote:Thunder's latest vid is a winner.
Makes me glad that I've not invested any time or money attending A/S conferences.
For those of you who have done so ... my sincere sympathies. Depressing outlook in the video, but probably realistic.
I think what amazes me the most is that the very people who say this sort of nonsense are the ones who are snarky, sarcastic, condescending, abusing and just plain mean to anyone who doesn't agree with them.Rystefn wrote: The analogy isn't "Your right to wave your arms ends at my face, so your right to speak ends where my feelings get hurt." that's a bullshit comparison. The correct analogy would be "Your right to wave your arms around ends at my face, so your right to say things ends when it's a magical incantation that explodes my head." Saying you can't say things that hurt people's feelings is like saying you're allowed to wave your arms around until someone interprets is as a *ist gesture, so you should have your fucking arms tied behind your back so you never do it again. Fuck those people and fuck their feelings.
Oh, you just knowthat the FfTB/Skepchick propaganda machine is kicking into high gear as we type. Not much they can do except resort to "Out of context! Out of context!" accusations, since he's using their own film clips and words against them. TF00t did a good job and they won't be able to do anything but scream hoarsely at their monitors while pounding on their keyboards with their fists. Muahahahaha.acathode wrote: I have the feeling that more than one person over at FTB is at this very moment fumingly typing frenetically to get a "counterattack" up ASAP. This will be fun to watch.
:popcorn:
If that's your little fuzzy friend, then its an awesome beast. More kitteh avatars please, else Sacha's flocks of carrion will take over teh pit.dinkum wrote:Don't cross the streams.Tigzy wrote:Eucliwood, I can't wait for you to meet Steersman. :P
No they'll resort to pz's intellectual rebutt of: he isn't arguing in good faith because he doesn't like me, therefore everything he said is invalid.Gumby wrote:Oh, you just knowthat the FfTB/Skepchick propaganda machine is kicking into high gear as we type. Not much they can do except resort to "Out of context! Out of context!" accusations, since he's using their own film clips and words against them. TF00t did a good job and they won't be able to do anything but scream hoarsely at their monitors while pounding on their keyboards with their fists. Muahahahaha.acathode wrote: I have the feeling that more than one person over at FTB is at this very moment fumingly typing frenetically to get a "counterattack" up ASAP. This will be fun to watch.
:popcorn:
Branding and marketing is only an issue if you want them all singing from the same music sheet. Quite frankly (and I could be wrong), this is not going to happen soon and good luck with that IMO.decius wrote:You're right, I don't know much and don't particularly care. But even if you are being truthful, your branding problem still persists.WoolyBumblebee wrote:
Or you just don't know enough about the MRM. I know that what I do as an MRA does more good than any of those vapid FTB, A+ feminist assholes any day. And I am not ashamed or afraid to say I am an MRA just because people don't fully understand the MRM.
Oh shit, if you're bringing it up as your own idea, stuff is about to go down. If you're simply asking, then yes, we have... and I got the message as to why it's a bad idea, but I guess I was attempting to dictate people here in general by bringing it up. :roll:Tony Parsehole wrote:Has anybody discussed the possibility of an "Edit" button recently?
Tony Parsehole wrote:Has anybody discussed the possibility of an "Edit" button recently?
Oh no I didn't!welch wrote:Tony Parsehole wrote:Has anybody discussed the possibility of an "Edit" button recently?
Dick
Well what made you think YOUR feelings matter? They're the oppressed minority, so their feelings are the only ones that matter. Check your privilege, you just don't get it, misogyny, patriarchy.jjbinx007 wrote:I think what amazes me the most is that the very people who say this sort of nonsense are the ones who are snarky, sarcastic, condescending, abusing and just plain mean to anyone who doesn't agree with them.Rystefn wrote: The analogy isn't "Your right to wave your arms ends at my face, so your right to speak ends where my feelings get hurt." that's a bullshit comparison. The correct analogy would be "Your right to wave your arms around ends at my face, so your right to say things ends when it's a magical incantation that explodes my head." Saying you can't say things that hurt people's feelings is like saying you're allowed to wave your arms around until someone interprets is as a *ist gesture, so you should have your fucking arms tied behind your back so you never do it again. Fuck those people and fuck their feelings.
http://od.soulrequiem.com/Forum%20Pics/ ... t_down.jpgTony Parsehole wrote:Has anybody discussed the possibility of an "Edit" button recently?
I don't speak drama-ese. Did that have:Eucliwood wrote:And stop twisting a suggestion to someone that actually has POWER here as telling "you guys" how to run your show. Yes, you're members here, but I really don't consider you guys to be running anything if all you have is posting privileges. I've never seen people twist a suggestion of a feature that doesn't work for a forum into something so damn dramatic is "omg, a new guy is coming here TELLING US HOW TO RUN OUR SHOW DESPITE THE FACT THAT US PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT IT ARENT EVEN THE ONES WHO DESIGN THE FORUM. OMG SHE SAID EDITING WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA."Also the fact that I'm new has shit to do with it. If I was "old" and said it, would it be taken less offensively, and if so, uh, why?
Even people at Atheism fucking +, kings and queens of twisting shit into some unspeakable crime, don't twist a suggestion of a new rule or feature as "telling the regulars of the forum -who have no power to implement such things- how to run 'their' show." Simply state that editing hasn't worked for this forum, and get over it. Geez. Don't take it as some attack or criticism on everyone that goes here. Wtf.
If that was telling you how to run your show then writing the prez for a simple bill proposal on one topic is like telling the entire country how the country in general should be run. Bill proposals have nothing to do with what I can do, so when people write with ones I dont like, I dont start bitching and acting like they're telling me what to do as if Im even in the government. I dont start acting like one simple proposal is telling the government how to their shit in general, either.
Oh you did discuss an edit button? Shit, I hadn't noticed. My bad.Eucliwood wrote:Oh shit, if you're bringing it up as your own idea, stuff is about to go down. If you're simply asking, then yes, we have... and I got the message as to why it's a bad idea, but I guess I was attempting to dictate people here in general by bringing it up. :roll:Tony Parsehole wrote:Has anybody discussed the possibility of an "Edit" button recently?
Also, what's up with the turd smiley? I find it very nasty. I'm not telling "the regulars" here "how to run their forum" (code for asking it to be taken out of my sight), but ew. It looks like a dancing piece of shit. Is that what it's supposed to be? I feel a piece of shit in my hand every time I see him dancing. Basically, I feel a piece of shit in my hand every time I post when I notice him.
Someone needs to tell him to stop letting Becky buy his hair dye, and get that shit done by a pro. Fucker looks like he's wearing a rug.Eucliwood wrote:PZ Myers face...I didn't notice how fat it was. What does his wife look like? And what the fuck is she thinking anyway? thunderf00t should make another video. Right now.
I had to do it. I couldn't resist. :dance:Gumby wrote:http://od.soulrequiem.com/Forum%20Pics/ ... t_down.jpgTony Parsehole wrote:Has anybody discussed the possibility of an "Edit" button recently?
jjbinx007 wrote:I received an email from the JREF forum and apparently if I donate lots of money I get to own one of these... Is this a Surlyramic?
I'm reminded of Viz's 'Life of Christ in Cats' commemorative plate again...Our Gift to You
When you make a one-time donation of $100 or more or a monthly donation of $25 or more to the JREF's Season of Reason campaign, we will send you a limited-edition ceramic ornament, designed and handcrafted by Amy Davis Roth of Surly-Ramics. The design is based on a favorite photo taken of Randi during a recent lecture tour in Norway. We think he looks a bit like a certain lovable mythical figure, don't you?
That was ~12 hours and 9 pages ago. Fucking hell. Talk about some of that quantum sardonics.DownThunder wrote:Things dont really get heated [here] anymore.
Given the words say it is...jjbinx007 wrote:I received an email from the JREF forum and apparently if I donate lots of money I get to own one of these... Is this a Surlyramic?
Yeah, it's a dancing shit. I'm pretty sure that's exactly the reaction they're going for when they use it, too. We're not too good to laugh at the lowest of the low-brow (ablism? Some sort of insensitivity, anyway) humor around here. Some of us do avoid the dancing turd, though.Eucliwood wrote:Also, what's up with the turd smiley? I find it very nasty. I'm not telling "the regulars" here "how to run their forum" (code for asking it to be taken out of my sight), but ew. It looks like a dancing piece of shit. Is that what it's supposed to be? I feel a piece of shit in my hand every time I see him dancing. Basically, I feel a piece of shit in my hand every time I post when I notice him.
Ah, nice one. Calling a rebuttal to a dramatic reaction drama. It wasn't even to you, so I don't see why the point concerns you. The point is a rebuttal to the dramatic point he had. Clearly.welch wrote:I don't speak drama-ese. Did that have:Eucliwood wrote:And stop twisting a suggestion to someone that actually has POWER here as telling "you guys" how to run your show. Yes, you're members here, but I really don't consider you guys to be running anything if all you have is posting privileges. I've never seen people twist a suggestion of a feature that doesn't work for a forum into something so damn dramatic is "omg, a new guy is coming here TELLING US HOW TO RUN OUR SHOW DESPITE THE FACT THAT US PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT IT ARENT EVEN THE ONES WHO DESIGN THE FORUM. OMG SHE SAID EDITING WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA."Also the fact that I'm new has shit to do with it. If I was "old" and said it, would it be taken less offensively, and if so, uh, why?
Even people at Atheism fucking +, kings and queens of twisting shit into some unspeakable crime, don't twist a suggestion of a new rule or feature as "telling the regulars of the forum -who have no power to implement such things- how to run 'their' show." Simply state that editing hasn't worked for this forum, and get over it. Geez. Don't take it as some attack or criticism on everyone that goes here. Wtf.
If that was telling you how to run your show then writing the prez for a simple bill proposal on one topic is like telling the entire country how the country in general should be run. Bill proposals have nothing to do with what I can do, so when people write with ones I dont like, I dont start bitching and acting like they're telling me what to do as if Im even in the government. I dont start acting like one simple proposal is telling the government how to their shit in general, either.
A point?
Grammar?
Some form of structure?
According to PZ, it's going on *right now*. Probably in the slymepit. Am I in the wrong thread?Tkmlac wrote:
[quoting PZ in thunderf00ts video]
"We were trying to figure out if women were eye candy and fuck toys for privileged white men or whether they were colleagues."
What. The. Fuck. Where was I when they were having this conversation??
I call bullshit. I smelt it ten posts ago, now i can see it.Eucliwood wrote:PZ Myers face...I didn't notice how fat it was. What does his wife look like? And what the fuck is she thinking anyway? thunderf00t should make another video. Right now.
Yes.jjbinx007 wrote:I received an email from the JREF forum and apparently if I donate lots of money I get to own one of these... Is this a Surlyramic?
http://i.imgur.com/fS4uw.jpgWhen you make a one-time donation of $100 or more or a monthly donation of $25 or more to the JREF's Season of Reason campaign, we will send you a limited-edition ceramic ornament, designed and handcrafted by Amy Davis Roth of Surly-Ramics. The design is based on a favorite photo taken of Randi during a recent lecture tour in Norway. We think he looks a bit like a certain lovable mythical figure, don't you?
Yes.jjbinx007 wrote:I received an email from the JREF forum and apparently if I donate lots of money I get to own one of these... Is this a Surlyramic?
The thing is I would actually pay for 'Life of Christ in Cats'.Tigzy wrote:jjbinx007 wrote:I received an email from the JREF forum and apparently if I donate lots of money I get to own one of these... Is this a Surlyramic?I'm reminded of Viz's 'Life of Christ in Cats' commemorative plate again...Our Gift to You
When you make a one-time donation of $100 or more or a monthly donation of $25 or more to the JREF's Season of Reason campaign, we will send you a limited-edition ceramic ornament, designed and handcrafted by Amy Davis Roth of Surly-Ramics. The design is based on a favorite photo taken of Randi during a recent lecture tour in Norway. We think he looks a bit like a certain lovable mythical figure, don't you?
COOL! I've always wanted a Rolf Harris Surly-Ramic.Dick Strawkins wrote: http://i.imgur.com/fS4uw.jpg
Peezus Christ, she must be making a bundle from this deal.
