Periodic Table of Swearing

[ThreeFlangedJavis]

real horrorshow

Meanwhile on his blog, greg is not only asking people to:

Go write a good review of the book to offset Mykeru’s, or at least, down vote the bad reviews he or others at the slymepit have obviously written

Because Lardie's special brand of dumb is a secret known only to the Slymepit and not at all discernible from his silky prose.

[welch]

<giordana>Sorry so snippy. I'm quite cranky this morning.</giordana>

FUCK YOU CUNT!!! (sympathises)

Seriously, though, Skep Tickle was the only one to partake, and I would argue she did well, her banning being the best testimony of Myers' hypocrisy.

Haha. Sorry, couldn't resist.

OK, only one. I figured maybe more had tried, maybe by using new aliases. However, it doesn't matter how well one does in situations like this. It was a trap, nothing more. Welch had it right. There's no point in playing the game either by normal rules or their rules. We do much better here and on the wider internet, mocking them, laughing at them, and posting fuck-tons of evidence against them that they can deny all day but can't refute. That's how we take their dishonest rhetorical weaponry from them. The moment we take them seriously enough to actually try to engage them, they go into creationist game-playing mode. Best to leave them just angrily shaking their fists at nothing.

the more absurdist we get, the more screaming they get. I imagine if we only replied to them with pictures of Tim Curry as Pennywise, they'd never leave the house. I'm tempted to start replying as blatantly offensive as possible. So every time laden interacts with me on twitter, I ask him how his wife grabs his head when he goes down on her...by the ears, tufts of hair, or entire skull.

That kind of shit.

[Mykeru]

Taking a break from teaching the dog the finer points of tug-toy and watching my dad prepare the shrimp and squid and other seafoody shit Italians eat on Xmas so as not to offend the baby Jesus.

I would like to wish everyone a happy holiday and/or Merry Xmas, if that's your thing, and look forward to a very joyous and productive New Year of making baboons shit themselves.

Before I left home, I had put together a funny little hook for a video. It's just a moment of silliness that a lot of my videos seem to be built around. Once I do that hook things often fall into place. As they have because, quite frankly, Greg Laden and the anti-misogyny crew (everyone else being the misogynists, of course) actually gave me a place to run with it.

Merry Xmas, Greg. You're my muse. Love you, man (no homo).

:hankey:

[welch]

Anyone know if Ed smokes or used to smoke? On his blog he suggested maybe a fungal infection or sarcoidosis, but enlarged lymph nodes in the chest & a bunch of fluid where it really shouldn't be in a middle-age white westerner is probably more likely to be lung cancer.

I was thinking congestive heart failure, but that wouldn't explain the lymph nodes. No idea whether Ed was/is a smoker, though. He might be in denial about his health status too ... the possible causes he gave could happen to anyone regardless of lifestyle, as opposed to coronary artery disease and hypertension sequelae, which are usually (not always, of course) the result of poor dietary and lifestyle choices.

Cynical bitch that I am, I'm putting the "open heart surgery" description in the same category as Greta's repetition of "cancer surgery" = more dramatic effect in the context of begging for donations.

Well, I'll be sure to show Ed lots of support. In private. Where no one else can see. Then keep calling him a stupid fat fuck in public. If Justin's right, Ed should be my BFF in a heartbeat.

[Gumby]

A little gem I just found:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/camelswith ... -pz-myers/

PZ Myers: First thought that comes to mind: why are you trivializing physical violence, like a punch in the face, by comparing it to a verbal insult? An insult isn’t even a threat.

...

Daniel Fincke: I don’t think I am trivializing physical violence. You risk trivializing emotional violence. And don’t underestimate the way that dehumanizing language is the first step towards dehumanizing behaviors. People can be very hurt and they have a right to be, when disrespected by words.
PZ Myers: Their feelings can be hurt. Again, don’t promote this confusion between real violence and words.
This is not to say feelings aren’t real — of course they are. But sometimes you have to metaphorically slap people’s feelings hard to get them to wake up.

...

PZ Myers: Sometimes, I don’t want civil discourse. There’s no point to politeness when you’re arguing with people who profess uncontroversially bad ideas.

PZ uses any and all excuses when it comes to why he allows himself and his commenters to verbally assault people. He'll never budge.

I like this part:

That’s one of the reasons I reject the whole god-concept. They have to tell me precisely what they mean by “god”, or stop using the term.

PZ insists on precise definitions from everyone else, but when it comes to his favorite words, like "atheism", "misogyny", "feminism", etc., all of a sudden the definitions get all creatively fluidic and context-dependent. Hypocrite.

[welch]

Actually, if you remember, but you don't, Oolon, Benson, et. al. spent a lot of time complaining that my domain was under anonymous registration. To find my name required digging trough internet archive to find the previous doxing in 2005 and some copyright information.

I don't get that, wonder how they were looking. When I looked, your name was right there. If you do have your stuff on private, may want to doublecheck, it appears to be inconsistently applied.

[welch]

3. To further encourage those people, he compares them to cockroaches.

He probably meant inyenzi.

Taking his cue from Brownian, who called the Slymepitters 'subhuman scum'. I used to think that PZ was better than his commenters, but he is in fact at least as bad as the worst of them.

I AM KING OF TEH CHUUUUUDS!!!!

[welch]

Considering the amount of palava Svan and others put into the concept of "victim blaming", it is sad to see them doing it to Justin Griffith.

Svan is a complete hypocrite regarding her defence of Laden, and her stance on doxxing. We called her out on this months years ago, and now it seems we were 100% spot on.

Fixed that.

[Badger3k]

A little gem I just found:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/camelswith ... -pz-myers/

PZ Myers: First thought that comes to mind: why are you trivializing physical violence, like a punch in the face, by comparing it to a verbal insult? An insult isn’t even a threat.

...

Daniel Fincke: I don’t think I am trivializing physical violence. You risk trivializing emotional violence. And don’t underestimate the way that dehumanizing language is the first step towards dehumanizing behaviors. People can be very hurt and they have a right to be, when disrespected by words.
PZ Myers: Their feelings can be hurt. Again, don’t promote this confusion between real violence and words.
This is not to say feelings aren’t real — of course they are. But sometimes you have to metaphorically slap people’s feelings hard to get them to wake up.

...

PZ Myers: Sometimes, I don’t want civil discourse. There’s no point to politeness when you’re arguing with people who profess uncontroversially bad ideas.

PZ uses any and all excuses when it comes to why he allows himself and his commenters to verbally assault people. He'll never budge.

I like this part:

That’s one of the reasons I reject the whole god-concept. They have to tell me precisely what they mean by “god”, or stop using the term.

PZ insists on precise definitions from everyone else, but when it comes to his favorite words, like "atheism", "misogyny", "feminism", etc., all of a sudden the definitions get all creatively fluidic and context-dependent. Hypocrite.

Considering that Dawkins is persona non grata with them, why does PZ want to associate with a known white supremacist, misogynist, sexist, et al person? Since PZ says Dawkins agrees with him, doesn't that mean he bears the taint of association? I know, never expect consistency from hypocrites.

[welch]

It is interesting that in Laden's comment on Stephalump's blog (see Pitchguest's screencap above), he continually refers to the phrase, "to kick someone in the ass", rather than, "to kick someone's ass". Ahh, nuance.

Context baby context. Or, to explain it more fully:
"Unless you've read, memorised and can recite everything I've ever written, you're not qualified to comment, and if you have you're mis-reading it."

This is in contrast to intent as in: "Intent is not magic." Or to explain it more fully:
"It doesn't matter what you meant, we reserve the right to interpret what you said as we please, and it pleases us to be offended. Therefore you are offensive."

I've been meaning to point out that "intent is not magic" bullshit from the baboons for ages. It really is a deeply cynical propaganda tactic. Straight out of the Joseph Goebbels Playbook.

You know, if he'd meant kick him in the ass, he could have actually said that.


Just Sayin'

[welch]

Could someone expand a bit on the logic behind "intent isn't magic!" meme?
I never really understood what it's supposed to convey. To me, intent is almost always a very important factor when dealing with moral questions. Most obvious example, accidentally causing a fatal accident vs carefully planing and then shooting someone in cold blood, even if the outcome is the same one dead person, the later is a much much worse action morally.

Granted, the damage is the same, the intent doesn't magically make the person in the accident any more alive than the murdered one... that's the only way I can make sense of the expression, but that's not how I see "intent isn't magic" being use in discussion. From what I've seen, it's used in discussions (at least at FTB/A+) almost only in discussions about morality and the moral character of different persons, as to somehow dismiss intent completely as a factor when they pass their "moral judgment" on persons they usually don't like.

So is it just some crap term they borrowed/invented, that they are misusing to justify their hypocrisy, kinda like privilege? Or is there some sort of logic to it that I've completely missed?

Considering the amount of palava Svan and others put into the concept of "victim blaming", it is sad to see them doing it to Justin Griffith.

Svan is a complete hypocrite regarding her defence of Laden, and her stance on doxxing. We called her out on this months ago, and now it seems we were 100% spot on.

Have to give Brownian and the other FTBers that condemn Laden on Zvan's post some small plus points for being consistent to their own rules, for once. It's not easy being Zvan, when not even the most diehard commentators want to defend Laden. JT even had to come to her defense, trying to convince people that just because she's telling Justin to please fucking stop pointing out that Laden is doxing people, she's not technically defending Laden. What a brilliant defense...

Okay, I'm confused...was JT in an accident of some kind, involving blunt force skull trauma? Because that's the only explanation I can come up with for some of the fucking idiocy he posts.

[Mykeru]

Actually, if you remember, but you don't, Oolon, Benson, et. al. spent a lot of time complaining that my domain was under anonymous registration. To find my name required digging trough internet archive to find the previous doxing in 2005 and some copyright information.

I don't get that, wonder how they were looking. When I looked, your name was right there. If you do have your stuff on private, may want to doublecheck, it appears to be inconsistently applied.

That may be the case. Unlike some people I don't routinely re-read old stuff I wrote. <---See what I did there, 'boons?

Which would make them even dumber than I thought, which would put them in "beaten at checkers by flatworms" range.

[welch]

Perhaps we should have T-Shirts printed up?

http://wcoa.info/teammisogyny.jpg

"Misogyny, FUCK YEAH!
So lick my butt, and suck on my balls"

Sounds good.

Go with the classic from "Me So Horny"

"Wrap your lips around my dick and lick my asshole too"

and if there's a woman who can do this simultaneously?

Call me, we have money to make

[welch]

Reason's Greetings, Happy Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Ramadan, Mithras, Zoroastras, and whatever or whoever else you are doing tonight and tomorrow. Peace to all of you, my friends.

Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition on my iPad mostly. Much Love for Trent and the team.

[welch]

And, most of the harassment I get these days other than the occasional creationist's is actually from fellow Atheists, who hate me because I respect and refuse to rape women

Oh man, you got our dastardly plan figured out. We all hate you because you refuse to join in our rapin' parties. :lol:

Fuck you, Greg. You don't get to drag the atheist and skeptic communities down to your insane level, you're not nearly bright enough. This kind of shit isn't gonna fly with people who know how to think, which is everybody but you and your FfTB/Skepchick/A+ whackaloon cult.

Melissa would be pissed if I stopped rapin' wimmen. Without that, I'd never leave the house, and then the neighbors would get NO sex. Thor would be sad.

[John Greg]

Boyo, over at Feelya's, they're as angry at Al, and us, as a nest of freaked out hornets: http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... -equality/

Ragey tears all over the place.

[Spence]

Merry pastamas to all pitters. Here is a brief interlude for quote mining purposes - my gift to any browsing baboons. (Most of the names won't mean much to non-UK residents, but most of them were either convicted or cleared of murder charges)

[youtube]YWYghe4SX2A[/youtube]

[real horrorshow]

You know, if he'd meant kick him in the ass, he could have actually said that.


Just Sayin'

Now, get forever out of my life. Do not turn back. You do not deserve to even know the people you’ve insulted in that idiotic post you wrote. Don’t ever, ever find yourself in my presence or think you deserve to breath the air that I, and Jen, and Stephanie, and Gret and Ophelia and PZ and the rest of us breath, because you do not.
If you do make that apology it better be from laying face down in the mud.
Have a nice day and kiss my ass.
Greg
PS, don’t you dare ask, ever again, for an upvote or any other support from your colleagues. I’ll kick your fucking ass if you do. You will regret it. (Unless that apology is forthcoming.)

Not my emphasis. Griffith's original post here: http://www.freezepage.com/1356391890TFZKYEHWOQ

[Badger3k]

Boyo, over at Feelya's, they're as angry at Al, and us, as a nest of freaked out hornets: http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... -equality/

Ragey tears all over the place.

Wow. Just...wow. The comments are quite a bit, um, ironic? Surly dropped out of TAM because of the hate (yeah, a hateful t-shirt), and Ophelia had to drop out of TAM because of the hate (you mean the comment from one of her supporters that she misinterpreted as a death threat? That kind of hate?).

Also loved the "they don't have to read things they don't agree with" comment, as if Nanny Phee-Phee and the rest don't have their search engines trawling the web for their names, or the (their definition) cyberstalking that people like Nanny do constantly. What clueless twits, and twats, and dicks (had to put that in for Nanny boo-boo). Good thing I bought the super-industrial irony meter - it's getting a workout from the clueless on that thread.

[Badger3k]

Damn - I forgot to say that Greg must be teachin' 'Phelia how to write. All that "ragey rage" - pure gold. Maybe she should get Greta "bestest writer evah" to teach her instead?

And, we're all evil for laughing (huh?) at Ed's problems. I guess the idea that he stand on his own two feet and not beg like a pathetic weasel like Greta "I don't have cancer, so kiss my ass, I'm keeping the money" Christina. I thought you'd be old enough to know that hospitals take payment arrangements. Been there, done that, and have been paying medical bills for the last few years (and at least 3-5 more at present payments unless I get more money or lose my job, a real possibility as a teacher in Texas). I've been balancing food bills and other things for years, living paycheck to paycheck. Cry me a river, Ed.

[cunt]

No Surly (aged 43) went to TAM, which is where she saw the hateful t-shirt and started bawling. Benson (aged 50+) dropped out of TAM because somebody sent her an extremely sarcastic email.

[Mykeru]

Boyo, over at Feelya's, they're as angry at Al, and us, as a nest of freaked out hornets: http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... -equality/

Ragey tears all over the place.

[youtube]owzhYNcd4OM[/youtube]

[cunt]

They're obsessed with apologies. I tried watching that "testosterone damaged brains" conference panel to see what the context was earlier on. It starts with Swvan (paraphrasing) - "ok so we didn't meet up to discuss what the topic would be, or what we'd talk about, so any questions..."

I had to turn it off. They're up there because the stage is two foot higher than everyone else.

[Darren]

Being a bit bored while the beer-bread is being made, I skimmed my feed and read this bit from Laden from yesterday.

And, most of the harassment I get these days other than the occasional creationist's is actually from fellow Atheists, who hate me because I respect and refuse to rape women, and I recognize that much of the violence done to women is by testosterone poisoned men.

He "refuses" to rape women? That's a very strange choice of words. The idea of raping anyone has never even entered my mind to be "refused".

Maybe Laden really is not quite right up stairs. You know... Voices in his head telling him to rape. All this self loathing makes much more sense in that context.

[franc]

FtBers asking for donations for their "health scares." No accountability or oversight on how the funds are used. I'm not saying these health scares didn't happen, but its strange to me that upper class, educated whites as privileged as they are can't go to their families, their savings accounts, or that they don't have better health coverage.

What's so strange?

[John Brown]

They're obsessed with apologies. I tried watching that "testosterone damaged brains" conference panel to see what the context was earlier on. It starts with Swvan (paraphrasing) - "ok so we didn't meet up to discuss what the topic would be, or what we'd talk about, so any questions..."

I had to turn it off. They're up there because the stage is two foot higher than everyone else.

Exactly right. I've pointed this out before. When Svan infamously said, "I need better opponents," what she really meant was, "I need you to shut the fuck up so I can lecture you for as long as I with to lecture you and don't dare say a word or I'll accuse you of harassment."

I know we all have our favorites, but she's just about the worst of that bunch.

[Tkmlac]

"PZ Myers: Their feelings can be hurt. Again, don’t promote this confusion between real violence and words.
This is not to say feelings aren’t real — of course they are. But sometimes you have to metaphorically slap people’s feelings hard to get them to wake up."

This is the same motherfucker that compare the Slymepit's bagging on skepchick with a man who shot fourteen women.

This is a man whose friends compared comedians' jokes with being raped all over again.

Fuck him.

[somedumbguy]

Boyo, over at Feelya's, they're as angry at Al, and us, as a nest of freaked out hornets: http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... -equality/

Ragey tears all over the place.

[youtube]owzhYNcd4OM[/youtube]

Thank you. I don't keep up on my South Park, and I hadn't realized until just now that the "your tears are delicious" meme traced back there.

[Tkmlac]

FtBers asking for donations for their "health scares." No accountability or oversight on how the funds are used. I'm not saying these health scares didn't happen, but its strange to me that upper class, educated whites as privileged as they are can't go to their families, their savings accounts, or that they don't have better health coverage.

What's so strange?

Ugh. This kind of shit makes me hate humans sometimes.

[franc]

If Mykeru’s name is so readily available on his blog – which he acknowledged and pointed to once if not several times in his tweets – one has to think that his “umbrage” is more feigned than real, more suggestive of crocodile tears and a chess gambit.

Usually I let your crap slide because it's obvious your strong point isn't paying attention to details that don't feed your confirmation bias for whatever point you are trying to tug out your ass.

Why do you bother? Steersmoan fits the very worst definition of troll. Continuously -

* feigning ignorance and inability to source information
* pleading innocence because he's "just asking questions"
* probably has a checklist of regurgitated to death points that he works through and when done, starts again at the beginning
* rubs his hands with glee at how he can jerk all of you around on a string

No one can possibly be as stupid as Steersman paints himself, not even Laden. And you keep feeding him.

[Mykeru]

Greg Laden libels:

Can someone screen cap this before Laden gets a clue?

For the record, Greg, I haven't written one review. Not one. And your horseshit is no different than a GOP flack who claims ant disagreement with their platform is "un-American". You clown.

[justinvacula]

This guy continues to be hilarious. Legos are a tool of the patriarchy :)

[youtube]wYev7sNLCUk[/youtube]

[John Greg]

Laden has been stating that he might "tell-all" about his stalking of Abbie/ERV, and claiming it would only make ERV look bad.

Apparently, in his trademarked braindead way, he has forgotten that he has already out himself on this issue, and that outing was documented on Phawrongula: http://phawrongula.wikia.com/wiki/Cyber ... _InZvanity

[Gefan]

No Surly (aged 43) went to TAM, which is where she saw the hateful t-shirt and started bawling. Benson (aged 50+) dropped out of TAM because somebody sent her an extremely sarcastic email.

Surly Amy is forty-fucking-three?!?!?
I'm forty three, and now I feel embarrassed by proxy (for want of a better term). I figured there was no way anyone could act that childish and be over, at most, twenty five.
The "just when you think they can't become any more ridiculous" principle is starting to look like an actual physical law.

[welch]

Boyo, over at Feelya's, they're as angry at Al, and us, as a nest of freaked out hornets: http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterflies ... -equality/

Ragey tears all over the place.

Wow. Just...wow. The comments are quite a bit, um, ironic? Surly dropped out of TAM because of the hate (yeah, a hateful t-shirt), and Ophelia had to drop out of TAM because of the hate (you mean the comment from one of her supporters that she misinterpreted as a death threat? That kind of hate?).

Also loved the "they don't have to read things they don't agree with" comment, as if Nanny Phee-Phee and the rest don't have their search engines trawling the web for their names, or the (their definition) cyberstalking that people like Nanny do constantly. What clueless twits, and twats, and dicks (had to put that in for Nanny boo-boo). Good thing I bought the super-industrial irony meter - it's getting a workout from the clueless on that thread.

You don't have to read things you don't agree with? Good advice. They should follow it.

[Pitchguest]

Greg Laden libels:

Can someone screen cap this before Laden gets a clue?

For the record, Greg, I haven't written one review. Not one. And your horseshit is no different than a GOP flack who claims ant disagreement with their platform is "un-American". You clown.

Done and done.

http://www.freezepage.com/1356396651AZHHPFMDKO

[papillon]

Greg Laden libels:

Can someone screen cap this before Laden gets a clue?

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu11 ... 6d3ae3.jpg

[Za-zen]

Ahhhhh privilege it rocks, currently sittin in a 5* finishing off a Guinness before bed, after a hearty six course dinner, my wife and kids upstairs. We've booked in for xmas, and i must say privilege rocks. You know the kind of privilege that comes with working your fucking ass off all year so you and your family can enjoy luxurious downtime. Not the kind of work twitson does, talking populist shit to morons who don't yet understand that talking populist shit requires nothing other than an understanding of your average moron and an internet connection.

But yeah yeah that's not the type of privilege twatson is talking about. But it most definately is the type she aspires to ;) incase you haven't recognised it as of yet. Twatson is a paris hilton wanna be, she craves the lay about celebrity lifestyle. Someone who gets paid shitloads simply to exist. Someone who should be paid merely to ingratiate any gathering with her presence. But is yet completely absent of substance.

You, you the lurker are responsible for this, either through your silence, or refusal to accept that within the atheist/sketic sphere people could exist, that are exactly the same as those you ran from in the theist sphere. You my atheist fuckwit are being played in the same way any pastor played you. And YOU are as much a fuckwit as you were as a theist. You simply have been fooled into believing that you've left bullshit behind you.

[Sulaco]

The "just when you think they can't become any more ridiculous" principle is starting to look like an actual physical law.

I think it's related to the "It can't get any worse than this" law.

As a side thanks for the name of the originator of a dark and stormy night.

[papillon]

Just stumbled on this and thought I'd stick it up here.
Footage of Lunar Rover from the Apollo 16 mission.
Tweaked and digitally stabilised in HD.
Click the Youtube button, toggle to 720 HD and full screen for full effect.

[youtube]5cKpzp358F4[/youtube]

[franc]

Greg Laden libels:

Can someone screen cap this before Laden gets a clue?

For the record, Greg, I haven't written one review. Not one. And your horseshit is no different than a GOP flack who claims ant disagreement with their platform is "un-American". You clown.

Better yet, frozen -

http://www.freezepage.com/1356398381QORHNVODVE

[franc]

Greg Laden libels:

Can someone screen cap this before Laden gets a clue?

For the record, Greg, I haven't written one review. Not one. And your horseshit is no different than a GOP flack who claims ant disagreement with their platform is "un-American". You clown.

Better yet, frozen -

http://www.freezepage.com/1356398381QORHNVODVE

I feel supplanted. He now sees you everywhere.

[ERV]

Laden isnt even being original. Anne Rice pulled an Amazon review freak-out eight years ago.

Also, Merry Christmas!!! I still feel like donkey balls. Worst cold I can remember having. Ugh.

[acathode]

Adam Lee has decided to engage me in a Twitter 'debate' regarding the definition of misogyny.

And with debate, you mean virtually caving his head in with a dictionary? There's not much to debate, dictionary + the large majority agreeing with the dictionary = you can try to redefine the meaning all day, you're still wrong.

If the large majority thinks that misogyny is actively hating women, if you then declare in your little corner that "misogynist = someone not 100% compatible with our particular brand of feminism", you're either a idiot or a dishonest cunt if you then wade out into the big majority and throw accusations of misogyny around you.
You might as well also declare that a "white supremacist" is actually someone who might be part of structural racism without even knowing it, or holding any racist views. Oh wait...

(Yes, I knew this before I even brought up Hutchins' accusation against the four horsemen on that CFI post, and was prepared to retort if someone pointed this out. The fact that I didn't have to is more than enough in itself to disqualify any objections.)

I don't even understand why any of the FTBers would want to officially declare their definition of misogyny though, their whole narrative and use of the word hinges upon everyone else thinking it actually mean someone who actively hate or strongly dislike/distrust women. The whole "the pit is a misogynistic hellhole" narrative just doesn't really work when they then stand up and explain that "and with misogynistic we mean not kinda maybe harmful to women, though they might not think they are really harmful, basically they disagree with our feminism".

ps. Also, since the last xmas song I posted was so crappy, and the xmas celebrations are done here, so I'm finally in some Christmas mood, have some real Christmas music:
[youtube]D71EilB2CI0[/youtube]
Only real xmas song I can stand, that get me into "xmas mode" (fuck the jolly stuff). I don't give a shit that it's religious, the last part when Jussi is killing it still gives me shivers.

p.ps.

Thank you. I don't keep up on my South Park, and I hadn't realized until just now that the "your tears are delicious" meme traced back there.

If you haven't watched that episode, do it, it's one of the best, if not the best, South Park episodes that they ever made.

[Steersman]

Laden has been stating that he might "tell-all" about his stalking of Abbie/ERV, and claiming it would only make ERV look bad.

Apparently, in his trademarked braindead way, he has forgotten that he has already out himself on this issue, and that outing was documented on Phawrongula: http://phawrongula.wikia.com/wiki/Cyber ... _InZvanity

Interesting, although I wonder what “ace-in-the-hole” he thinks he has as that is what he seems to imply is the case.

But gawd, love this from Stephie’s post, linked from the Phawrongula wiki:

Yes, “offensive” is highly subjective. Sometimes that’s the point. Sometimes privileging the subjective is the only way to get people to listen to a person’s viewpoint.

Considering that AtheismPlus has spent some 4 months anathematizing “privilege” one would have thought that one of their “dear leaders” would have set them straight on the question (ok when it’s to their advantage). Although Zvan’s take looks pretty much like a serious bias – who decides whose privilege is greater? Tends to produce abortions like Myers’ recent attempt to restart an honest discussion on the nature and problems of feminism – and which – as the evidence clearly shows, the proof being in the pudding – turned out to be no more than a poisoned chalice.

Though, in passing and as it is somewhat apropos, I periodically wonder what Abbie’s position is on feminism in general, what it is that might make her gag about it since much of it seems predicated on envy and pol-itics ….

[CommanderTuvok]

That Lunar Rover footage is great. Forget science, forget petrology, forget chemical analysis...it was all about spinning a dune buggy around a deserted car park like a teenager!

[Pitchguest]

franc - You know what they say, what's worth doing is worth doing twice. :wink: (hint: my previous post)

Anyway, had to post a reply over at Greg's on SB. Not ever going to get out of moderation, but for what it's worth, here it is:

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3674 ... amazon.jpg

It's amusing that Greg should try to lie right in our faces. But what's even more amusing is how his friends gobble it all up. And they call themselves sceptics? The mind boggles.

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On another note, is Thibeault for fucking real? Not only is he attempting to justify Laden's doxxing behaviour, like here,

... What’s amusing me most about all this is, people aren’t declaring things as universally bad and standing by their principles. Vacula’s declared that the targeted and locust-swarm-like harassment of Stephanie and others as okay because they’re public figures. One of them fights back, and they’re FTBullies. Vacula posting information obtainable from one Google search of Surly Amy is acceptable because it’s easily-obtained matter of public record; Greg Laden posting an address available from one Google search of Mykeru and finding a previous escapade where Mykeru serially harassed someone else and apparently ended up leaking his own information (??), and that’s devastating and leaves his reputation in tatters. Or when the same slimepit posts Pharyngula commenter Brownian’s name, depriving him of his pseudonymity because reasons — that’s fine, right? Or posting Stephanie’s workplace because more reasons. And yet these principles are inviolable and never right. Except apparently when they are.

And, of course, brings up Brownian as an example. Good fucking show, eh, Canuck, you fucking thibble.

... and not only does he once more ignore the timeline and context of Vacula's so-called "doxxing" of Surly Amy (which was immediately denounced and later removed on request) and once more defending Greg Laden by painting him as the victim - as he did during the spat with Griffiths. (Speaking of which, his entire article is an attempt to lessen the deeds commited by Laden, with deceit and lies and equating such behaviour to "slime-tactics." To say my respect for him is less than charitable is the understatement of the year. To say I think his followers are utterly retarded for believing his every word without question is implied. Friendly suggestion: take a long walk, off a short pier. With love.)

But in the comments he denies everything he's written, even when Griffiths responds to his inanity. To the evident claim that Thibby is once again sticking up for his friend Greg, he responds thusly:

While you’re at it, point out the sticking-up for my dear friend Greg that I’ve done, Justin.

Wow. Wow.

[SenorBeagle]

Leaving aside, for a second, the fact that Go, Sunny, Gogo! is barely readable pile of wank, what in the name of fuckery does he think he's doing charging £3.20 (in pommy money) for a fucking (in his own words) novella? Who'd even pay that for a paperback novella, even if it was coming from a recognised author?

In what universe does he live, to think that he, a completely unknown writer who has nothing else on sale on Amazon, can price a book that high (edging near to the price of famous authors like Terry Pratchett, Arthur C. Clarke and others, no less) and have it positively fly off the shelves?

Fuck, even if it was good, no bugger'd buy a novella at that price, from a no-name author, with no other books listed on his author bio. Even for a novel, it's taking the piss to charge that for an ebook.

I mean if he's doing it to raise money for the SSA, why not price it lower, put it into the realms of the impulse buy, and sell more chuffing copies?

Beggars belief, it really does...

Oh, and merry christmas!

[Steersman]

If Mykeru’s name is so readily available on his blog – which he acknowledged and pointed to once if not several times in his tweets – one has to think that his “umbrage” is more feigned than real, more suggestive of crocodile tears and a chess gambit.

Usually I let your crap slide because it's obvious your strong point isn't paying attention to details that don't feed your confirmation bias for whatever point you are trying to tug out your ass.

Why do you bother? Steersmoan fits the very worst definition of troll. Continuously -

* feigning ignorance and inability to source information
* pleading innocence because he's "just asking questions"
* probably has a checklist of regurgitated to death points that he works through and when done, starts again at the beginning
* rubs his hands with glee at how he can jerk all of you around on a string

No one can possibly be as stupid as Steersman paints himself, not even Laden. And you keep feeding him.

Still have your knickers in a twist because I didn’t buy into your narrative about Sally Strange’s supposed sock puppetry? Or maybe it was my skepticism about your claim that Watson didn’t correct her faux pas about Galileo and the Church until “weeks after” that crime of the century? But maybe the icing on the cake was my raised eyebrow over your periodic use of smilies in face of your ex cathedra anathematizing of them? Which even sacha thought was rather funny:

I have no idea what he meant by Andrew and "the docket" [being there for overusing smilies], but suggesting that perhaps franc could update his signature to “smilies are generally for reetards” is funny regardless of who said it.

[Gumby]

Just stumbled on this and thought I'd stick it up here.
Footage of Lunar Rover from the Apollo 16 mission.
Tweaked and digitally stabilised in HD.
Click the Youtube button, toggle to 720 HD and full screen for full effect.

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Great quality. Too bad they apparently can't do the same to the footage of Armstrong climbing down the ladder. I guess the original taped transmissions were lost and what remains is too fucked up to do much with.

[welch]

Laden isnt even being original. Anne Rice pulled an Amazon review freak-out eight years ago.

Also, Merry Christmas!!! I still feel like donkey balls. Worst cold I can remember having. Ugh.

THAT'S who laden and the rest remind me of: Anne Rice. Damn, thanks for the link man.

Also, been sick at Xmas...it really blows, you have all the sympathies.

[mordacious1]

130

PZ Myers
December 24, 2012 at 6:11 am (UTC -8)
Huntstoddard has 132 posted comments on Pharyngula. He had a long history as an obtuse, tedious ass before the banhammer fell on him — so to complain that he’s an example of someone who got thrown out as soon as I showed up is rather clearly false. I’m afraid Ophelia is now about to discover what a slimy pain in the butt he is, too.

As for the slymepitters…they’ve lost all presumption of charity long, long ago. Of course I’m going to shut down dedicated dishonest propagandists the instant they show up.

[bolding mine] So that's why he bans us? We're "dedicated dishonest propagandists"? Project much PeePee? It's not that some of us show up and disembowel your idiotic posts? And just when it becomes apparent that you're losing the argument, the banhammer shows up. I thought it was obvious to everyone, and from reading that thread at B&W, it appears you've banned non-slymers also for the same reason. You're a small weak pitiful little "man" PeePee (and most people other than your sycophants know it).

[ThreeFlangedJavis]

Mordacious:

As for the slymepitters…they’ve lost all presumption of charity long, long ago. Of course I’m going to shut down dedicated dishonest propagandists the instant they show up.

Who is asking for PZ's charity? Is it a bestowing of his grace to respond to an argument presented? Still going with the delusion that he runs the go-to blog for all of Atheistdom.

[katamari Damassi]

That Lunar Rover footage is great. Forget science, forget petrology, forget chemical analysis...it was all about spinning a dune buggy around a deserted car park like a teenager!

Those things aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.

[Notung]

[Jussi Bjorling singing O Holy Night]

THIS. A THOUSAND TIMES THIS.

Merry Christmas all!

[Darren]

I feel supplanted. He now sees you everywhere.

http://i.imgur.com/T1Vpj.jpg

[Darren]

That Lunar Rover footage is great. Forget science, forget petrology, forget chemical analysis...it was all about spinning a dune buggy around a deserted car park like a teenager!

No, no, no. It was all about picking up chicks! 10 years and $24 billion so a few dozen astronauts could get laid. We'll never see the likes of those days again.

[Struth]

I'm concerned that the policeman who founded coffee loving skeptic is suicidal. I don't mean this hyperbolically. I was shown some references to tweets that have since been deleted and/or made private.

Rhys and/or Hayley and/or Skepchick Tracy Kingor someone like that, allegedly behind _numerous_ complaints to his employer (his local police force, whoever they are).

Reminds me of the dogmatic RadFems at the U of T Warren Farrell thing.


An aside :
[Yikes I've been away from the board for a few days - have missed a couple of pages]



{For legal reasons, I hope I've out in enough disclaimers to shield me from being sued for libel}

[Struth]

Ignore my above message unless someone can corroborate it. I've posted it in good faith out of concern and I don't really know what else to do.

[Struth]

Amy is 43? Blimey. I thought she was late 20s / early 30s.