Periodic Table of Swearing

Continuation of the post at Abbie Smith's ERV blog (http://scienceblogs.com/erv/)

Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tony Parsehole » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:03 pm  •  [Post 32176]

Crommuknob on Twitter:



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Well it's Wednesday, which means a new post from @HaifischGeweint, and a fresh round of crazy leaking in from the Slymepit.



Yeah. We are the crazy ones. Halffish's blog post is perfectly sane and reasonable.


Fuck you Crom and Half Fish. I hope you have sex with somebody who has HIV and neglects to disclose the fact to you. That way you can feel all warm and fuzzy inside that you never hurt their feelings.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tony Parsehole » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:04 pm  •  [Post 32177]

Sorry, I forgot to put quotation marks around the tweet.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby cunt » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:05 pm  •  [Post 32178]

Tony Parsehole wrote:
cunt wrote:Yeah fucking brilliant, who decides the potential transmission rate at which you need to inform. Is it 0.001% chance, 0.1% chance, 10%? Is it by law, does the infected person play it by ear? Who fucking knows and really who cares because luckily there's fuck all chance the law is ever going to change just to make exceptions to laws of consent based on how oppressed half-fish feels about this particular issue.


Exactly.
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I wonder what the fuck is going to come next.


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Most of it I find just funny. This is the first thing in a long time thats actually managed to piss me off.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby bhoytony » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:05 pm  •  [Post 32179]

"I don't want you to kill me"

"OMFG you are totally discriminating against me. HALP"
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Gumby » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:08 pm  •  [Post 32180]

You HIVogynists need to stop your AIDSsplaining now. Stop. Just stop. Don't do that.

When you develop AIDS and experience the discrimination and emotional trauma you'll face when privileged STD-free elitists ask if you have a disease that might kill them if they fuck you, then you'll understand. Until then, you have no business speaking about something you have no knowledge about, unlike Rebecca Watson, so shut the fuck up or I'm temp-banning the lot of you for 27 hours.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tony Parsehole » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:09 pm  •  [Post 32181]

Crom, in the comments of his comedy blog:

To use an absurd example, let’s say that I suffer from night terrors. I have been on medication and haven’t had an episode in over a year. I hook up with someone, but don’t tell her I have night terrors. I suffer an episode and end up fracturing her jaw (while asleep). Is that sexual assault, justly punished by a lengthy jail sentence and registry as a sex offender? I would think not, even though there was a risk that I did not disclose to the partner.

Now obviously a fractured jaw isn’t the same as HIV, but the argument and principle are still in the ballpark.




No. No they are not.
I'm not even going to bother to explain why as it would be an exercise in patronisation.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby ERV » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:10 pm  •  [Post 32182]

Tony Parsehole wrote:Crommunist says:
What about in the case where there is no reasonable risk of transmission? Below some CD4 count, your risk of transmission is near-zero, so we’re asking people to subject themselves to the risk of potentially disastrous discrimination based on a near-zero probability of harm. The risk/benefit calculation seems off there.

That just shows why you need to tell your partner so they can make a risk assessment for themselves.

You see, if you have a LOW CD4 count ('below some CD4 count...') you are not just HIV+. You have AIDS. And at this point, a huge viral load.

If you are an IDIOT who thinks 'Meh, there is no reasonable risk I will transmit. Im below some CD4 count.' YOU ARE NOT THE ONE WHO SHOULD BE IN CHARGE OF THE CALCULATIONS.

YOU ARE AN IDIOT.

Ive written numerous times about criminal transmissions/attempted transmissions of HIV. The best argument against it is that people wont get tested (dont know, cant be criminal, GENIUS!!!), but then you just mandate testing and thats fixed.

But you dont have the right to put someone else at risk, to change someone elses live forever, just because you think the odds are low. Im sure a drunk driver who kills a car full of people thought the risk was low that he would do that, but that doesnt change the outcome.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby bhoytony » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:12 pm  •  [Post 32183]

By the way is Halfabrain HIV positive or just a fucking psychopath? I'm just wondering why HE (I'm just going to call HIM this because it will really piss HIM and the other arseholes off) is promoting this poisonous idea.If HE is positive I reckon HE should get up Crommunist like a rat up a drainpipe and see how our favourite FTB blogger feels about it then.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby JayTeeAitch » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:12 pm  •  [Post 32184]

All this talk about HIV/AIDS reminded me of...

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tony Parsehole » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:14 pm  •  [Post 32185]

ERV wrote:
But you dont have the right to put someone else at risk, to change someone elses live forever, just because you think the odds are low. Im sure a drunk driver who kills a car full of people thought the risk was low that he would do that, but that doesnt change the outcome.


That's exactly the point. Feelings and discrimination don't come into it.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby welch » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:15 pm  •  [Post 32186]

If you're going to ignore me, then actually do it. But that does require some work. So you probably won't do it right. Also, if the worst thing that happens in my day is you not talking to me anymore? Fuck yeah!
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby cunt » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:17 pm  •  [Post 32187]

That just shows why you need to tell your partner so they can make a risk assessment for themselves.


You'd think this simple point would be fucking obvious, but no apparently not.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Rystefn » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:19 pm  •  [Post 32188]

Holy shit... I wander off for a little while, and I come back to see this? It's cool to hide your HIV status from sexual partners? I just... words don't even...

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tigzy » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:20 pm  •  [Post 32189]

Both Half-Fish and Crom seem to be forgetting that the risk of being infected is greater if there happens to be a cut or lesion 'down there', as it were. Which is why it's essential to inform a partner that one is HIV-positive before getting too intimate; for all the 'converted' might know, the possible sexual partner could have a spot, sore or scratch which they might ordinarily not worry about.

Also, a low viral load is not necessarily an indicator that the HIV-positive person is effectively safe. From wiki (my bolding):

The viral load in the blood is a good predictor of the likelihood of transmitting HIV to another. The higher the viral load value, the more viral elements there are in tissues and in circulating blood and other body fluids. Individuals with HIV are most contagious during the earliest (acute) stages of the infection. At this phase the immune response is still developing and antibody levels against the virus are often too low to be detected. Antibody testing at this stage often yields a negative result. This scenario increases the importance of HIV education and early detection and diagnosis. Widespread testing could provide significant public health benefits. There is no safe period for an individual infected with HIV. HIV can be passed to another individual even when the viral load has dropped to undetectable. The viral load test only detects the amount of virus circulating in the blood (about 2%). Approximately 98% of the HIV is actually in the body tissues such as the lymph nodes, gut-associated lymphoid tissue (GALT), spleen, brain, and other body tissues and fluids. Viral level fluctuations in these tissues parallel the levels in the blood but there is not an immediate correlation in time or rate.


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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tony Parsehole » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:20 pm  •  [Post 32190]

"But your Honour! I didn't need to tell her I had HIV as the chance of infection was extremely low! Yes, she contracted the virus from me but how is that my fault? She should have asked me if I had HIV before I back-scuttled her!"
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby welch » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:21 pm  •  [Post 32191]

sacha wrote:
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mp3?


ha, no.

nor am I going to link the video of me trying to sing "whole lotta rosie"
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Jan Steen » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:22 pm  •  [Post 32192]

A person gives a presentation on a field of science they know almost nothing about. Their knowledge is based mainly if not exclusively on popular writings and reports in tabloid newspapers. Nevertheless, this person suggests that this entire field of science is a scam. An expert then writes a detailed critique, pointing out serious flaws and misrepresentations.

How does a certain group of people defend the lecturer?

1. The lecturer was only criticising this field of science as represented in the popular media.
2. It doesn't matter that the lecturer only has a bachelor's degree in an unrelated field.
3. The expert doesn't like the lecturer, therefore his criticisms can be discarded.
4. The lecturer was a woman, therefore only misogynists would criticise her.
5. It wasn't even a lecture, it was a stand-up comedy act.

Never before was so much straw burned by so few.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tony Parsehole » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:24 pm  •  [Post 32193]

Rystefn wrote:Holy shit... I wander off for a little while, and I come back to see this? It's cool to hide your HIV status from sexual partners? I just... words don't even...


Welcome to the most fucked up point in FTB history yet.


BTW can somebody please screencap that Crommunist blogpost before it gets edited to fuck? I would but can't on this computer.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Guessed » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:25 pm  •  [Post 32194]

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Just 'capped the comment because I can't believe he's actually making that argument. It's a strange world we live in when those who are trying to make a case for, or explain away, someone intentionally infecting another with HIV (without their consent!) are supposedly the "sane" ones.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby cunt » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:26 pm  •  [Post 32195]

Tony Parsehole wrote:
Rystefn wrote:Holy shit... I wander off for a little while, and I come back to see this? It's cool to hide your HIV status from sexual partners? I just... words don't even...


Welcome to the most fucked up point in FTB history yet.


BTW can somebody please screencap that Crommunist blogpost before it gets edited to fuck? I would but can't on this computer.


I've got it all excluding the comments.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tony Parsehole » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:27 pm  •  [Post 32196]

Cheers, Cunt.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Rystefn » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:28 pm  •  [Post 32197]

Tony Parsehole wrote:
Rystefn wrote:Holy shit... I wander off for a little while, and I come back to see this? It's cool to hide your HIV status from sexual partners? I just... words don't even...


Welcome to the most fucked up point in FTB history yet.


No shit... Just when I thought my opinion of that lot had hit rocks bottom, the fuckers turn up with drills and dynamite shouting "don't stop until you hit the core!"
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby AndrewV69 » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:28 pm  •  [Post 32198]

Steersman wrote:“snide remarks and open insults to Allah”


Ah! You are correct. Of course, I should have checked before saying anything.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby bhoytony » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:28 pm  •  [Post 32199]

JayTeeAitch wrote:All this talk about HIV/AIDS reminded me of...



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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Mr Danksworth » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:29 pm  •  [Post 32200]

Half-fish chimes in on my 'infected is infected' post.


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December 5, 2012 at 11:18 pm
Have you ever had unprotected sex with someone who was not, at the time, a virgin? Congratulations. You’re INFECTEEED with HPV, and your body can now INFECT your future partners with a virus that could kill them with cervical cancer over roughly the same time span in the absence of treatment as untreated HIV typically becomes AIDS and takes a life.

Shouldn’t you be telling all your partners about your status? After all, you’re potentially killing someone by having sex with them.

HPV is even transmitted via skin-to-skin contact, so either one of you wearing a condom doesn’t protect you. And if you think oral sex is your way out, think again. That’s how people get throat cancer from HPV.

You can change the way you talk about this subject matter, or you can continue to expose your bigotry, at which point I’m sure you’ll talk yourself straight out of prospective sex partners in just a matter of time. At this point, I sure wouldn’t go near you or anyone else who talked like you. I couldn’t reconcile my clitoral erection with the urge to spontaneously projectile vomit.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby AndrewV69 » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:29 pm  •  [Post 32201]

cunt wrote:A couple of people actually get shot at in that vid. One from a very close distance that makes me wonder how the person could have possibly missed.


This gives away the fact that you have never been in a firefight up close and personal. The sheer random shit that can go down in an instant can take your breath away when you think about it later, not to mention give you the shakes.

I will let the ex-combat people here tell you about it, though in my experience not many people feel inclined to talk about it.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby cunt » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:30 pm  •  [Post 32202]

I'd just call her a poison-cunt if it was me. How's that bigotry you fucking retard mutant?
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tony Parsehole » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:32 pm  •  [Post 32203]

Rystefn wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:
Rystefn wrote:Holy shit... I wander off for a little while, and I come back to see this? It's cool to hide your HIV status from sexual partners? I just... words don't even...


Welcome to the most fucked up point in FTB history yet.


No shit... Just when I thought my opinion of that lot had hit rocks bottom, the fuckers turn up with drills and dynamite shouting "don't stop until you hit the core!"


What could possibly top this? Go on. Think. What on Earth could they come up with next week that tops this?
I can't wait to see how they do it but they will. Guaranteed.

My money is on "smothering a screaming baby is fine if you feel the infant is discriminating against your gender"
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby TheMan » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:32 pm  •  [Post 32204]

d4m10n wrote:If Watson had given a talk which revealed some depth and breadth of understanding of the field, I'd accept the applicability of PZ’s argument that laypersons are sometimes qualified to talk about science. It's not a bad argument, it just doesn't work here.

She was doubly stumped when asked by an attendee (in both Germany and Missouri) if she could provide *any* examples of EP working well as a science. In both cases she admitted that such examples might exist, but that she'd never personally come across them. Anyone even remotely familiar with the field should start rattling off the list of cross-cultural human universals and some of the experiments done to test whether they are, in fact, more than cultural. Or maybe talk about even deeper psychological traits like the ability to rapidly acquire grammar, or maybe the inbuilt forms of sloppy thinking such as hyperbolic discounting and agency hyperdetection which also appear to be universal. Or, hell, any number of other studies that don't touch upon the sacred field of sex and gender. It's not that hard, even a layman like me could do it. Instead, she just filibustered with a whole load of empty speculation. Had she emphatically shouted out, “I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M DOING!” it would have been no more damning.



or at least take the question on notice and be prepared the next time you are likely to be asked again.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tony Parsehole » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:33 pm  •  [Post 32205]

bhoytony wrote:
Chris Morris is a genius. If you haven't seen it I recommend Four Lions his film about British Islamist terrrorists.


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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby cunt » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:35 pm  •  [Post 32206]

AndrewV69 wrote:
cunt wrote:A couple of people actually get shot at in that vid. One from a very close distance that makes me wonder how the person could have possibly missed.


This gives away the fact that you have never been in a firefight up close and personal. The sheer random shit that can go down in an instant can take your breath away when you think about it later, not to mention give you the shakes.

I will let the ex-combat people here tell you about it, though in my experience not many people feel inclined to talk about it.


Um, this isn't a military firefight. Its one guy firing a gun from his car as its stopped at a traffic lights.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tigzy » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:36 pm  •  [Post 32207]

Tony Parsehole wrote:
bhoytony wrote:
Chris Morris is a genius. If you haven't seen it I recommend Four Lions his film about British Islamist terrrorists.


"12 bottles of bleach please"


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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tony Parsehole » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:39 pm  •  [Post 32208]

Tigzy wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:
bhoytony wrote:
Chris Morris is a genius. If you haven't seen it I recommend Four Lions his film about British Islamist terrrorists.


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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby bhoytony » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:44 pm  •  [Post 32209]

Tony Parsehole wrote:
bhoytony wrote:
Chris Morris is a genius. If you haven't seen it I recommend Four Lions his film about British Islamist terrrorists.


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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tony Parsehole » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:45 pm  •  [Post 32210]

Haifisch:

"Definitions don’t list connotations. You can argue until the cows come home about the definition of a word like “infected” in various schools of thought, but none of that answers to THE CONNOTATION IN COMMON USE OF THE WORD."

The connotations of the word infected? Like "that infection is something I really don't want and could kill me so please don't stick your dick up me"?
In this case those connotations are a good thing. Calling HIV infection "Conversion" or "Fairy dream happy time" is just misleading and wrong.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Spence » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:46 pm  •  [Post 32211]

I had largely ignored Crommunist and his zany co-author because they are really irrelevant, but that post really is actually psychotic. Chris Morris popped into my mind as well, but I see I have been beaten to that punchline.

Oh well. I'm just about to finish a blog post mansplaining why shooting people in the face should be decriminalised (because it oppresses gun owners who don't shoot people in the face).

Once I've finished that I'm going to do a presentation that uses Judy Mikovits as proof that the entire field of retrovirus research - no, bigger, of biology - is pseudo science.

Then I just have to wait for the speaking jobs to rooolllllll in.

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby CommanderTuvok » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:48 pm  •  [Post 32212]

I'm absolutely loving watching PZ and Black Svan humiliate themselves in their own shit.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby skepCHUD » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:49 pm  •  [Post 32213]

On the other hand what's really wrong with converting someone? Once they get HIV/AIDS they can't be crippled by "privilege".
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Re: Scrodinger's HIV Transmtter

Postby disumbrationist » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:51 pm  •  [Post 32214]

A new low has been hit.
Imagine the Schrödinger's Rapist scenario - except that the man knows there is a non-negligible probability he will rape the woman, and this probability is higher for him than for most other men. The woman doesn't know that he comes with this increased risk, and he doesn't want to tell her.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby cunt » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:51 pm  •  [Post 32215]

Tony Parsehole wrote:Haifisch:

"Definitions don’t list connotations. You can argue until the cows come home about the definition of a word like “infected” in various schools of thought, but none of that answers to THE CONNOTATION IN COMMON USE OF THE WORD."

The connotations of the word infected? Like "that infection is something I really don't want and could kill me so please don't stick your dick up me"?
In this case those connotations are a good thing. Calling HIV infection "Conversion" or "Fairy dream happy time" is just misleading and wrong.


You'll be converted instead, like an AAC file into MP3. Not that much better or worse, ok so now you have disease that causes failure of your immune system. Don't be so prejudiced.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby codelette » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:51 pm  •  [Post 32216]

Tony Parsehole wrote:Haifisch:

"Definitions don’t list connotations. You can argue until the cows come home about the definition of a word like “infected” in various schools of thought, but none of that answers to THE CONNOTATION IN COMMON USE OF THE WORD."

The connotations of the word infected? Like "that infection is something I really don't want and could kill me so please don't stick your dick up me"?
In this case those connotations are a good thing. Calling HIV infection "Conversion" or "Fairy dream happy time" is just misleading and wrong.


He/she is not infected! She/he is a "gift giver". http://www.tampabay.com/news/health/article1170784.ece

I'll suggest he/she use "spreading the ninja". Ninjas are cool...
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tony Parsehole » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:52 pm  •  [Post 32217]

Speaking of "connotations" calling HIV infection "conversion" is fucking sick.

"Hey I converted three women today and they didn't even know!"
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tigzy » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:53 pm  •  [Post 32218]

Mr Danksworth wrote:Half-fish chimes in on my 'infected is infected' post.


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December 5, 2012 at 11:18 pm
Have you ever had unprotected sex with someone who was not, at the time, a virgin? Congratulations. You’re INFECTEEED with HPV, and your body can now INFECT your future partners with a virus that could kill them with cervical cancer over roughly the same time span in the absence of treatment as untreated HIV typically becomes AIDS and takes a life.

Shouldn’t you be telling all your partners about your status? After all, you’re potentially killing someone by having sex with them.

HPV is even transmitted via skin-to-skin contact, so either one of you wearing a condom doesn’t protect you. And if you think oral sex is your way out, think again. That’s how people get throat cancer from HPV.

You can change the way you talk about this subject matter, or you can continue to expose your bigotry, at which point I’m sure you’ll talk yourself straight out of prospective sex partners in just a matter of time. At this point, I sure wouldn’t go near you or anyone else who talked like you. I couldn’t reconcile my clitoral erection with the urge to spontaneously projectile vomit.


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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby bhoytony » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:54 pm  •  [Post 32219]

Spence wrote:Oh well. I'm just about to finish a blog post mansplaining why shooting people in the face should be decriminalised (because it oppresses gun owners who don't shoot people in the face).



You do realise that there are posters who will agree with that sentiment and not recognise it as satire. (byraway, they will all be Septics )
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby codelette » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:55 pm  •  [Post 32220]

Tony Parsehole wrote:Speaking of "connotations" calling HIV infection "conversion" is fucking sick.

"Hey I converted three women today and they didn't even know!"


I read this Rolling Article a while ago about "conversion parties", gift givers and bug chasers. Cannot find it, but read this: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread670012/pg1
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RIP Dave Brubeck

Postby Lsuoma » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:55 pm  •  [Post 32221]

IJLTH



And no, no apologies for putting this in the main thread...
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Re: RIP Dave Brubeck

Postby bhoytony » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:57 pm  •  [Post 32222]

Lsuoma wrote:IJLTH



And no, no apologies for putting this in the main thread...


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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tony Parsehole » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:59 pm  •  [Post 32223]

codelette wrote:
He/she is not infected! She/he is a "gift giver". http://www.tampabay.com/news/health/article1170784.ece

I'll suggest he/she use "spreading the ninja". Ninjas are cool...


Thanks. That's the second most fucked up thing I've read tonight!
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Al Stefanelli » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:59 pm  •  [Post 32224]

Rystefn wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:
Rystefn wrote:Holy shit... I wander off for a little while, and I come back to see this? It's cool to hide your HIV status from sexual partners? I just... words don't even...


Welcome to the most fucked up point in FTB history yet.


No shit... Just when I thought my opinion of that lot had hit rocks bottom, the fuckers turn up with drills and dynamite shouting "don't stop until you hit the core!"


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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby soldierwhy » Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:01 pm  •  [Post 32225]

That shit about HIV 'conversion' has to be parody surely? I mean I've met some fucking muppets in my time but, seriously?

It's almost worth hoping that the Mayans were right and the world will end in a few weeks, we as a species do not deserve to continue if we are producing lunatics like this.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tony Parsehole » Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:05 pm  •  [Post 32226]

soldierwhy wrote:That shit about HIV 'conversion' has to be parody surely? I mean I've met some fucking muppets in my time but, seriously?

It's almost worth hoping that the Mayans were right and the world will end in a few weeks, we as a species do not deserve to continue if we are producing lunatics like this.


The HIV shite on Crom's blog is the inevitable conclusion of a policy of insulating oneself from criticism. Eventually, all the sycophants saying "yes" mean you just go too fucking far.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby codelette » Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:05 pm  •  [Post 32227]

Tony Parsehole wrote:
codelette wrote:
He/she is not infected! She/he is a "gift giver". http://www.tampabay.com/news/health/article1170784.ece

I'll suggest he/she use "spreading the ninja". Ninjas are cool...


Thanks. That's the second most fucked up thing I've read tonight!


Found the original article! This whole thing is really fucked up: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/828217/posts

I found weird that HF tried to drop the usage of the correct terminology "HIV-infected" with terminology used by a fringe group...but then FTB bloggers are a whole bunch of lunatics, so I guess it is pretty much self-explanatory.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby cunt » Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:10 pm  •  [Post 32228]

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Nah, this person probably means well, and doesn't at least fantasise about spreading HIV. We should change the law so this guy couldn't be criminalised.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tony Parsehole » Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:11 pm  •  [Post 32229]

codelette wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:
codelette wrote:
He/she is not infected! She/he is a "gift giver". http://www.tampabay.com/news/health/article1170784.ece

I'll suggest he/she use "spreading the ninja". Ninjas are cool...


Thanks. That's the second most fucked up thing I've read tonight!


Found the original article! This whole thing is really fucked up: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/828217/posts

I found weird that HF tried to drop the usage of the correct terminology "HIV-infected" with terminology used by a fringe group...but then FTB bloggers are a whole bunch of lunatics, so I guess it is pretty much self-explanatory.

Shit is fucked up. look at this from that link:

"the welcome page to barebackcity.com, which claims 48,000 registered users, up from 28,000 about a year ago, recently said. "Be the first to seed a newbie and give him a pozitive attitude!"

(bolding mine)

Poz. meaning HIV infected. That's the word HaiFisch is slinging around and it's used on a website devoted to infecting people with HIV.......I wonder if there is anything to that.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Rystefn » Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:12 pm  •  [Post 32230]

bhoytony wrote:
Spence wrote:Oh well. I'm just about to finish a blog post mansplaining why shooting people in the face should be decriminalised (because it oppresses gun owners who don't shoot people in the face).



You do realise that there are posters who will agree with that sentiment and not recognise it as satire. (byraway, they will all be Septics )


I support the decriminalization of shooting people in the face, not because it oppresses gun owners who don't shoot people in the face. I support it because there are people in this world who really really need to be shot in the face. Sure, right after it gets passed, you'll see spike in the rate of people getting shot in the face, but it will normalize soon enough, and the net result will be fewer assholes and dipshits around.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Al Stefanelli » Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:13 pm  •  [Post 32231]

Excuse me, while I go find a large weapon with which to kill myself with...

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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby cunt » Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:16 pm  •  [Post 32232]

Tony Parsehole wrote:"the welcome page to barebackcity.com, which claims 48,000 registered users, up from 28,000 about a year ago, recently said. "Be the first to seed a newbie and give him a pozitive attitude!"

(bolding mine)

Poz. meaning HIV infected. That's the word HaiFisch is slinging around and it's used on a website devoted to infecting people with HIV.......I wonder if there is anything to that.


There was a weekend web on the site. Where i'm getting these screenshots from.

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/weekend-web/bareback-exchange.php
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby codelette » Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:18 pm  •  [Post 32233]

See, all of HF blogpost is not about "hey, don't be a bigot with HIV+ people"; you read the terminology used and you realized he/she is into dangerous fetishes. Hey, Crommie, your friend is a wacko. And you are one too. :)
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby d4m10n » Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:20 pm  •  [Post 32234]

skepCHUD wrote:On the other hand what's really wrong with converting someone? Once they get HIV/AIDS they can't be crippled by "privilege".


Check your non-converted privilege and stop healthsplaining.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tony Parsehole » Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:21 pm  •  [Post 32235]

cunt wrote:
There was a weekend web on the site. Where i'm getting these screenshots from.

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/weekend-web/bareback-exchange.php



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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby codelette » Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:21 pm  •  [Post 32236]

Undetectable viral load time!
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Al Stefanelli » Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:22 pm  •  [Post 32237]

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Re: Scrodinger's HIV Transmtter

Postby Mikelf unplugged » Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:23 pm  •  [Post 32238]

disumbrationist wrote:A new low has been hit.
Imagine the Schrödinger's Rapist scenario - except that the man knows there is a non-negligible probability he will rape the woman, and this probability is higher for him than for most other men. The woman doesn't know that he comes with this increased risk, and he doesn't want to tell her.
What would FTBs say then?

I don't know but suggesting that it might be sensible for the woman to ask him about his HIV status is what is commonly known as "victim blaming."
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby KarlVonMox » Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:24 pm  •  [Post 32239]

Fucking idiots. The difference between HPV and HIV couldnt be clearer - a lot of recent research has indicated that HPV is likely a human commensal, and the majority of the time the infection is cleared and does nothing to the host. HIV actually depletes your T-cells, weakens your immune system and makes you much more vulnerable to disease. Are these people serious? I have a hard time believing they are actually trying to make such an argument.
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Re: Periodic Table of Swearing

Postby Tony Parsehole » Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:26 pm  •  [Post 32240]

Used condoms off the toilet floor in my ass? Yes please!
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