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Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

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Josh, Official SpokesGay

5 July 2015 at 1:13 pm

Catherine Z, Bora’s wife, is on Twitter calling Janet Stemwedel an “old cunt” who lies.

No misogyny here. No propping up the patriarchy because it serves your interests even if it hurts other women. Nope. Everyone else is at fault. Bora was totally innocent, see? It was just those cunts.
Too right Josh! Bora slightly embarrassed two women by being an awkward aspie and all that happened to him was he was driven into poverty and the brink of suicide. And his wife has the gall to call one of his inquisitors a bad word that only wicked misogynists use.
I'm sure you nearly fainted when you read that, I know I did. :cry:

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Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

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Kirbmarc wrote:
Tony Parsehole wrote:Have you see this utter, utter shit?
http://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/grownup ... d=29701836
It looks just like the average FTBcon.
No pics of a ball pit, so it's not as much fun.

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JackSkeptic wrote:I find it amazing how some people have no problem with splashing their sexual preferences all over the internet.
:lol:

Well, telling people about his sexual preferences makes him randy. He's essentially word-raping FTB.

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Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

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James Caruthers wrote:
JackSkeptic wrote:I find it amazing how some people have no problem with splashing their sexual preferences all over the internet.
:lol:

Well, telling people about his sexual preferences makes him randy. He's essentially word-raping FTB.
Well, as some feminists say, you can rape someone without touching them, so how many of Ophies commenters will claim Rape, and how many will start Patreon accounts to care for their PTSD?

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Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

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Pitchguest wrote:I'm loving this. Richard Carrier, wank volleying himself to an early finished career.

But I want to point out something that happened earlier in the thread before the pearl necklace clutching began.
Was that pun intentional?

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Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

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Oh wow. Spokesgay is a vicious cunt.
I had a high and then, poof, it's gone.

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Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

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Takes active role in despicable witch hunt that ruins family financially and reputationally. Angry family member calls her a cunt, she responds "I think she needs help."

If that's not gaslighting, I don't know what is.

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Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

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"I want it to be over" :lol:

Fuck you.

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Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

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Tigzy wrote:
Pitchguest wrote: This is a post made by blondeintokyo. Blondeintokyo is your typical social justice twit, but in response to Carrier she said this:
Blondeintokyo is one of Sticky Dickie's avid fans. I've caught her defending her Dicky ( :D ) over on Patheos. She appears to be very 'into' Dr Carrier; almost as into Dr Carrier as Dicky is himself. In fact, I have a mild suspicion of some sockpuppetry on Dicky's part as regards Blondeintokyo, largely because I find it very difficult to believe that this pervy little hobbit could inspire such devotion in anyone other than himself.
I do believe you're right on the money with the sockpuppet theory. Albeit a long-lived sockpuppet. Its been around for years.

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Pitchguest wrote:AHAHAHAHAHAHA! HAHAHAHAHAHA!

Ophelia's latest!
Another one from The Onion: S&M Couple Won’t Stop Droning On About Their Fetishes.
:laughing-rolling:
Oapies 'latest' is an Onion story from 2001.

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Some of the comments about Stemwedel. Almost everyone says tell her what she wants to hear (feminism,socialism) and an easy A
Take this class if you want to be marked poorly for anything that does not match her opinions. Spends most of her time hating science for there not being enough women in it. In reality she just failed as a chemist and has built a belief system around "its not my fault its sexism"
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Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

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They never learn. Benefit Cosmetics made some fatty jokes; predictable corners of the internet demand self-flagellation, and money.

Never, ever apologise to SJWs. Ever.

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Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

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Interesting recent article on these dramas, that mentions Skeptickle:

http://heathen-hub.com/blog.php?b=1831

I am increasingly of the opinion that Zvan is a dangerous and ruthless person, not someone you want to fuck with.

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Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

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Cunning Punt wrote:Interesting recent article on these dramas, that mentions Skeptickle:

http://heathen-hub.com/blog.php?b=1831

I am increasingly of the opinion that Zvan is a dangerous and ruthless person, not someone you want to fuck with.
Surely someone you really, really should fuck with on principle.

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Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

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ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
Cunning Punt wrote:Interesting recent article on these dramas, that mentions Skeptickle:

http://heathen-hub.com/blog.php?b=1831

I am increasingly of the opinion that Zvan is a dangerous and ruthless person, not someone you want to fuck with.
Surely someone you really, really should fuck with on principle.
What, you mean like sending a warning letter to every company in her area, especially those hiring, with a special warning about Zvan? With sources to her online behavior? 'Cause that would be wrong, somehow. So would pushing certain Google results up with her name attached.

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Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

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The funny thing is that all their antics make them pretty much unemployable. You really don't have to do anything.

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Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

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(Hat tip to Oglebart :D)



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Judging by her latest missive, Zvan is somebody that you wouldn't even want to employ as a volunteer. There is c also an interesting comment on the piece. https://archive.is/eK11O

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Cunning Punt wrote:Interesting recent article on these dramas, that mentions Skeptickle:

http://heathen-hub.com/blog.php?b=1831

I am increasingly of the opinion that Zvan is a dangerous and ruthless person, not someone you want to fuck with.
Zvan is probably the worst person on FTB, and that's saying something. I say probably only because Ogvorbis might be a troll.
Tigzy wrote:Verily, the mind boggles that the likes of Sticky Dicky can actually attract - of all things -groupies. Tis a strange world, alright.
Dzokhar Tsarnaev got thousands of fan girls, and he is a scruffy-looking Muslim terrorist who killed innocents at a marathon.

Ted Bundy got marriage proposals from women who knew what he had done when he was on death row.

Charles Manson is short, looks like a hobo and is a complete nutball but got plenty of groupies.

If you're famous, you'll attract someone who is into you. Especially in the age of the Internet.

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Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

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The Yeti wrote:Judging by her latest missive, Zvan is somebody that you wouldn't even want to employ as a volunteer. There is c also an interesting comment on the piece. https://archive.is/eK11O
Then there's the next blog entry about her threats to WisCon:

"I would much rather see WisCon be an example of what to do right than end up a patch of scorched earth."

Nice conference you've got there. Would be a shame to lose it.

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Ape+lust, top man!

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Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

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CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
ThreeFlangedJavis wrote:
Cunning Punt wrote:Interesting recent article on these dramas, that mentions Skeptickle:

http://heathen-hub.com/blog.php?b=1831

I am increasingly of the opinion that Zvan is a dangerous and ruthless person, not someone you want to fuck with.
Surely someone you really, really should fuck with on principle.
What, you mean like sending a warning letter to every company in her area, especially those hiring, with a special warning about Zvan? With sources to her online behavior? 'Cause that would be wrong, somehow. So would pushing certain Google results up with her name attached.
Too much like hard work. Just call her Stepfunny and throw in a few whale and beachball references. That's usually enough to do it. Getting Ape on the case is always good too as she has the most mockable and caricaturable melon of a face with a wispy cloud of thinning hair on top (but she's not bitter!). Let's just say that the exterior matches the interior.

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Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

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The Yeti wrote:Judging by her latest missive, Zvan is somebody that you wouldn't even want to employ as a volunteer. There is also an interesting comment on the piece. https://archive.is/eK11O
Excerpt from the comment:
While so many of you were at that con, the harassers came out in full force. On PZ’s.blog, somebody posted volumes of verbose sexist bullshit to try to convince people to forgive Bora Z’s sexual harassment. Even worse, another entitled dudebro shit up a thread on Ophelia’s blog. This person posted in graphic detail about his disgusting personal sexual proclivities that involve humiliating women. It was completely inappropriate, and of somebody had said similar things on a workplace v they would be fired for sexual harassment. The saddest thing is that he is a bogey that I used to respect and be a fan of.
I think Dr. Carrier should counter that comment over there and set that sex negative prude straight by telling her that she has a puritanical streak similar to fundamentalist Xtians.

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Let's just say that the exterior matches the interior.
She isn't physically attractive but the ugly inside her would make the Elephant Man gorgeous by comparison.

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Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

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Kirbmarc wrote:
Cunning Punt wrote:Interesting recent article on these dramas, that mentions Skeptickle:

http://heathen-hub.com/blog.php?b=1831

I am increasingly of the opinion that Zvan is a dangerous and ruthless person, not someone you want to fuck with.
Zvan is probably the worst person on FTB, and that's saying something. I say probably only because Ogvorbis might be a troll.
Agreed. Many of the others there fail at their SW-Warriorship for various personal failings: PZ because he's a douchebag, Benson because she's a cut-and-paste old lady and besides, she has the occasional out-of-lockstep thought, Thimbledick because he's an obsequious brown nosing little toad, Bukkakke Carrier because his enormous ego is so funny, Avicenna because he was a rip-off artist, Brayton because he just goes to WND and goes, "look at these assholes", PhysioProff because he's high.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/physioprof/ ... mushrooms/

(Yes, Comrade PhysioProff, why yes, they are good to eat. Try them and let us know how they were.)

Zvan is far more organized and deliberate in her machinations and she doesn't succumb to rage, ego or the need for others' approval. She's scary.

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Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

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The Yeti wrote:Judging by her latest missive, Zvan is somebody that you wouldn't even want to employ as a volunteer. There is c also an interesting comment on the piece. https://archive.is/eK11O
The comment seems to be gone when I go to her actual site (ick) and not the archive.

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The Yeti wrote:Judging by her latest missive, Zvan is somebody that you wouldn't even want to employ as a volunteer. There is c also an interesting comment on the piece. https://archive.is/eK11O
The comment is gone now. Maybe Steph has a thing for horny hobbits? :think:

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So much tone policing on FtB and intent being magic

I thought those were nonos?

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Niqabbed by a highly ranked rabbit.

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A farewell post: Dec 14

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/oce ... -transfer/
It's somewhat ironic: in this system, you value minorities, you value women, you value the disadvantaged -- but you do not value people. Individuals are worthless, to be cast aside the moment you find something disagreeable in them.

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and for what was all this? We lost a network. We lost voices who fought for us. We lost each other. We lost direction. We lost our actual main goal -- to communicate the wonders of science with the world. And to some extent, I think this has damaged our rapport as bloggers with both journalist as well a scientist communities. Not to mention the curious public looking at all this in bemused confusion.

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Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

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Cunning Punt wrote:
Kirbmarc wrote:
Cunning Punt wrote:Interesting recent article on these dramas, that mentions Skeptickle:

http://heathen-hub.com/blog.php?b=1831

I am increasingly of the opinion that Zvan is a dangerous and ruthless person, not someone you want to fuck with.
Zvan is probably the worst person on FTB, and that's saying something. I say probably only because Ogvorbis might be a troll.
Agreed. Many of the others there fail at their SW-Warriorship for various personal failings: PZ because he's a douchebag, Benson because she's a cut-and-paste old lady and besides, she has the occasional out-of-lockstep thought, Thimbledick because he's an obsequious brown nosing little toad, Bukkakke Carrier because his enormous ego is so funny, Avicenna because he was a rip-off artist, Brayton because he just goes to WND and goes, "look at these assholes", PhysioProff because he's high.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/physioprof/ ... mushrooms/

(Yes, Comrade PhysioProff, why yes, they are good to eat. Try them and let us know how they were.)

Zvan is far more organized and deliberate in her machinations and she doesn't succumb to rage, ego or the need for others' approval. She's scary.
Zvan is the kind of person who would be pretty comfortable as a middle-management cog in an authoritarian machine. She could be a regional supervisor in a SJW "utopic" regime. PZ is a "useful idiot" who would be nominally kept in the high places but wouldn't get any real power, Ophelia would a member of the old revolutionary guard who would probably one of the first before the wall once the revolution ends, TiBo is a perfect example of the "model ally" (a.k.a. cannon fodder), Carrier is a profiteer, Avi is a nutcase who they'd get rid of pretty soon, Brayton would probably be assigned a thankless job as a common citizen, Physio would write some propaganda as a lower scribe.

Zvan is really the only one who could amount to something. She's not creative and charismatic enough to be an ideologue, but middle-management fits her perfectly.

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Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

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free thoughtpolice wrote:
The Yeti wrote:Judging by her latest missive, Zvan is somebody that you wouldn't even want to employ as a volunteer. There is also an interesting comment on the piece. https://archive.is/eK11O
Excerpt from the comment:
While so many of you were at that con, the harassers came out in full force. On PZ’s.blog, somebody posted volumes of verbose sexist bullshit to try to convince people to forgive Bora Z’s sexual harassment. Even worse, another entitled dudebro shit up a thread on Ophelia’s blog. This person posted in graphic detail about his disgusting personal sexual proclivities that involve humiliating women. It was completely inappropriate, and of somebody had said similar things on a workplace v they would be fired for sexual harassment. The saddest thing is that he is a bogey that I used to respect and be a fan of.
I think Dr. Carrier should counter that comment over there and set that sex negative prude straight by telling her that she has a puritanical streak similar to fundamentalist Xtians.
The comment has been removed (surprise, surprise).

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Zvan is really the only one who could amount to something. She's not creative and charismatic enough to be an ideologue, but middle-management fits her perfectly.
If I wanted to see a competitor sabotaged I would want to see them hire her. The only thing that fits her perfectly is backstabbing office politics. She knows how to gossip and get on side with other toxic people that are looking for victims.
At least that is the only talent I've seen her display.

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CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Tigzy wrote:
Pitchguest wrote: This is a post made by blondeintokyo. Blondeintokyo is your typical social justice twit, but in response to Carrier she said this:
Blondeintokyo is one of Sticky Dickie's avid fans. I've caught her defending her Dicky ( :D ) over on Patheos. She appears to be very 'into' Dr Carrier; almost as into Dr Carrier as Dicky is himself. In fact, I have a mild suspicion of some sockpuppetry on Dicky's part as regards Blondeintokyo, largely because I find it very difficult to believe that this pervy little hobbit could inspire such devotion in anyone other than himself.
I do believe you're right on the money with the sockpuppet theory. Albeit a long-lived sockpuppet. Its been around for years.

Any comment less than 1000 words cannot be a Carrier sock-puppet.

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Lsuoma wrote: I see Barn Owl in there with a different avatar.
:lol:

That gives me an opportunity to repeat one of my favorite biology jokes:

An animal with a cloaca never knows whether it's coming or going.

Also, I wonder whether the next FtBcon will feature an informative semenar by Dr. Carrier?

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BarnOwl wrote:
Lsuoma wrote: I see Barn Owl in there with a different avatar.
:lol:

That gives me an opportunity to repeat one of my favorite biology jokes:

An animal with a cloaca never knows whether it's coming or going.

Also, I wonder whether the next FtBcon will feature an informative semenar by Dr. Carrier?
It'll certainly make a vas deferens if he casts his pearls of wisdom; an anti climax if he doesn't.

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rayshul wrote:Has anyone made a "deliberate tour de face" joke yet?
If not, have a :clap: , Rayshul.

Now I'm wondering how best to work my "splash damage" gag into the conversation...

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KiwiInOz wrote:
BarnOwl wrote:
Lsuoma wrote: I see Barn Owl in there with a different avatar.
:lol:

That gives me an opportunity to repeat one of my favorite biology jokes:

An animal with a cloaca never knows whether it's coming or going.

Also, I wonder whether the next FtBcon will feature an informative semenar by Dr. Carrier?
It'll certainly make a vas deferens if he casts his pearls of wisdom; an anti climax if he doesn't.
It's nice that he is so giving of himself, I just hope he doesn't spread himself too thin.

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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
rayshul wrote:Has anyone made a "deliberate tour de face" joke yet?
If not, have a :clap: , Rayshul.

Now I'm wondering how best to work my "splash damage" gag into the conversation...
That would make for a sticky conversation.

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KiwiInOz wrote:
BarnOwl wrote:
Lsuoma wrote: I see Barn Owl in there with a different avatar.
:lol:

That gives me an opportunity to repeat one of my favorite biology jokes:

An animal with a cloaca never knows whether it's coming or going.

Also, I wonder whether the next FtBcon will feature an informative semenar by Dr. Carrier?
It'll certainly make a vas deferens if he casts his pearls of wisdom; an anti climax if he doesn't.
It would be nuts if they didn't invite him though. They should probably get the ball rolling on that.

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Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

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CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote:
BarnOwl wrote:
:lol:

That gives me an opportunity to repeat one of my favorite biology jokes:

An animal with a cloaca never knows whether it's coming or going.

Also, I wonder whether the next FtBcon will feature an informative semenar by Dr. Carrier?
It'll certainly make a vas deferens if he casts his pearls of wisdom; an anti climax if he doesn't.
It's nice that he is so giving of himself, I just hope he doesn't spread himself too thin.
Come on; are you trying to smear Dr Carrier?

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Tribble wrote: Any comment less than 1000 words cannot be a Carrier sock-puppet.
Tru dat. Also, Dicky's made it quite clear he doesn't use socks. Especially when there's a woman's face all ready and waiting.

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NoGodsEver wrote:
KiwiInOz wrote:
BarnOwl wrote:
:lol:

That gives me an opportunity to repeat one of my favorite biology jokes:

An animal with a cloaca never knows whether it's coming or going.

Also, I wonder whether the next FtBcon will feature an informative semenar by Dr. Carrier?
It'll certainly make a vas deferens if he casts his pearls of wisdom; an anti climax if he doesn't.
It would be nuts if they didn't invite him though. They should probably get the ball rolling on that.
Someone will get the sack if they don't.

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CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: It's nice that he is so giving of himself, I just hope he doesn't spread himself too thin.
His fans will prostate themselves with gratitude.

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I wonder if Stephanie Zvan stays up all night, unable to sleep, shaking with rage, anxiously wondering if every single comment on her low traffic blog is a slymepit troll?

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Take this class if you want to be marked poorly for anything that does not match her opinions. Spends most of her time hating science for there not being enough women in it. In reality she just failed as a chemist and has built a belief system around "its not my fault its sexism"
Ouch, that must have left a mark. :mrgreen:

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The Yeti wrote:I wonder if Stephanie Zvan stays up all night, unable to sleep, shaking with rage, anxiously wondering if every single comment on her low traffic blog is a slymepit troll?
Does the software on the blogs allow the blogger to see on their "dashboard" where on the internet their commenters go after leaving their blog? For instance, suppose you send a message on PZ's blog, leave, and come over here, can he see that?

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ConcentratedH2O, OM wrote:
rayshul wrote:Has anyone made a "deliberate tour de face" joke yet?
If not, have a :clap: , Rayshul.

Now I'm wondering how best to work my "splash damage" gag into the conversation...
:lol:

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Just popping in to "out" myself as a transmonogamist with a PIV fetish to which my wife occasionally yields.

Carry on.

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Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

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Oglebart wrote:Ape+lust, top man!

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QFT, Ape.

You've made my hole weak.

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Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

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The Yeti wrote:....Zvan ... volunteer. ... https://archive.is/eK11O
I did a double take when I read Ms Zvan's piece, because of this which also happened over the weekend. It's not exactly the same situation, but read her piece again w/ just a few words changed (the ones in green, and one brief ellipsis):
I don’t know Victoria. I don’t know exactly what happened before the firing.

I do know that Reddit now has a problem.

I saw tweets from a lot of upset people Saturday and yesterday. I saw screenshots of year-round volunteers reconsidering their commitment to Reddit. I saw blog posts questioning the competence of the board. I saw petition-signers I won’t identify more closely than that who feel Victoria was fired because her refusal to monetize the AMAs was challenging to the board. I saw “Victoria is awesome” posted at Reddit almost instantly and on Twitter then and now. I heard the word “revolt”. A lot of people predict this decision will tear Reddit apart.

Yes, nearly all of these people needed more sleep and were exhausted in other ways, but I’ve seen this kind of undercurrent before. As before, I’m terribly afraid the board will underestimate or dismiss the reaction they see. I’m afraid that, if they are capable of making the decision to fire a volunteer of this caliber during con, they are more than capable of thinking this will all blow over, that this is just Victoria’s friends being upset. It won’t. It isn’t.

Volunteering is just as at-will as any other kind of employment. No organization is required to keep any volunteer. These things are both true.

However, it is also true that volunteers may walk away at any time. It is also true that volunteers ... are not necessarily willing to subject themselves to disrespect from the organization that benefits from their work and sacrifice. No volunteer has to work for an organization that jerks its volunteers around, particularly during the part of their service that is supposed to be the reward for and fulfillment of all that hard work.

I don’t know what the board needs to do, specifically, to make this right. I do know they need to understand they screwed it up in the delivery even if it was the right decision for reasons I’m not currently aware of. I know they need to listen to what their volunteers need in order to keep Reddit someplace people want to pour their energy and talents. I know they need to listen particularly to people in positions similar to Victoria’s, because those people are now wondering about their own futures with Reddit.

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Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

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Did Zvan just Avicenna the Reddit revolt storyline?

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Re: Happy 3rd Pit Birthday!

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The Yeti wrote:Did Zvan just Avicenna the Reddit revolt storyline?
I don't think so - it's just Skeppers' edit of Steffalump's piece to reflect what happened at reddit and highlight the similarities.

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Took this shot around noon yesterday of a big ugly forest fire smoke cloud drifting in.
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This without the smoke would be a cloudless beautiful blue sky. It got worse today.

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free thoughtpolice wrote:Took this shot around noon yesterday of a big ugly forest fire smoke cloud drifting in.
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This without the smoke would be a cloudless beautiful blue sky. It got worse today.
Where is that?

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CuntajusRationality wrote:http://i.imgur.com/jY4MsAk.jpg
I love you.

I love you.

I love you.

I would let you Carrier all over my face.

Then I would Carrier all of your face if it would turn you on.

Then you could Carrier in my ass.

I don't care.

I love you.

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CuntajusRationality wrote:http://i.imgur.com/jY4MsAk.jpg
:clap: :clap: :clap:

Bravo, Xir.

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Lsuoma wrote:
free thoughtpolice wrote:Took this shot around noon yesterday of a big ugly forest fire smoke cloud drifting in.
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This without the smoke would be a cloudless beautiful blue sky. It got worse today.
Where is that?
I'm facing south from Comox on Vancouver Island, looking toward Vancouver. That fire was apparently the one near Pemberton, another fire, closer to here, near Sechelt added to the smoke today and we got some ash too.

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The Yeti wrote:Judging by her latest missive, Zvan is somebody that you wouldn't even want to employ as a volunteer. There is c also an interesting comment on the piece. https://archive.is/eK11O
Then there's the next blog entry about her threats to WisCon:

"I would much rather see WisCon be an example of what to do right than end up a patch of scorched earth."

Nice conference you've got there. Would be a shame to lose it.
Wow. The entitlement is strong with that one:
I don’t know Hal. I don’t know exactly what happened before the firing.
I do know that CONvergence now has a problem.
So, we don't know what happened, what the reasons were, how valid they were...but we do know that CONvergence is the only people at fault, and the firing/releasing wasn't justified at all.

Then you get the sucker as the first comment. A lot of howlers in that, but this stood out. Surely they weren't talking about The Black Svan?
Your skills normally earn hundreds of dollars an hour, yet they expect you to work for free!
Number one, if you are a volunteer for something, for free, the company/etc you work for isn't in the wrong for expecting you to work for free, It's the definition of being a volunteer, I always assumed. But if Svan charges several hundred dollars an hour, no wonder she's unemployed.

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