Skep tickle wrote:
James Caruthers wrote:<snip stuff I agree with>
^My childhood, incidentally. What this song is saying is not far removed from what McIntosh is saying, except for the addition of an omnipotent, thought-policing agent who watches you all the time to make sure you're not consuming verboten media.
But it did seem like it ended too early. Shouldn't there have been a few more verses?
"oh be careful, bare skin, not to show"
"oh be careful, genitalia, who you touch"
"oh be careful, little mind, not to think"
Oh, the oft-repeated mantra of christian fundamentalism takes care of that:
"Get 'em while they're young."
Sometimes translated into the Jesuit "give me the child for the first seven years, and I'll give you the man."
Although I doubt the veracity of this method for manufacturing anything other than sociopaths, hypocrites and violent psychopaths. When you teach a child that who they are (their instincts and natural drives) is evil and sinful, you create a monster.
I firmly believe that.
People want to be good (cooperative.) Children want to be accepted and loved. If you tell a child that they must kill their sexuality to be loved and accepted, they may do it and succeed. If you tell a child they must condemn a friend because he or she has two mothers, they may do it and succeed. And on and on.
Nothing convinces me so much that there is no god as the fact no correcting omnipotent force steps in to prevent the child abuse rampant within Christianity.
Christopher Hitchens once wrote "How Religion Poisons Everything."
The title must have seemed insulting to the religious, but I think he meant it quite literally. Every aspect of someone's life is tainted when they see with religious lenses. Interactions which should be harmonious become violent as a result of religious conflict. Children who should be cared for are abused under the guise of religious teaching or instruction. I don't mean sexually, either, although there's enough of that. Psychological and emotional abuse is rampant within (fundamentalist and more hardline Protestant, at least) Christianity. I think it comes with the territory of being a Christian. Many psychologists would probably agree with me.
http://www.advocate.com/politics/religi ... ristianity
â€œAfter hearing so many staff members at the school proclaim that God had called them there and that Godâ€™s hand was at work through the school, and then seeing them verbally and physically abuse children, I simply could no longer believe that I myself was capable of hearing from God. If these people could be so wrong, how could I have faith that I could hear God and not also be so wrong? That was really the beginning of the erosion of my Christian faith.â€
The only point I'd add to this is that it's not just the children in this center. It's not just the children at home. It's every child. Every child who grew up. Every child who grew up and had children. Their warped ideas live on and propagate generation after generation and they spread the twisted seed to their own beloved children who do the same. They carry the damage into adulthood and beyond. If they're lucky, maybe they'll realize how they were abused later in life. Emotionally. Psychologically. If not physically or sexually. Christianity, much like Islam, is about submission. Submission to who? Not to God because he doesn't exist. Submission to the earthly agents of God put in authority over you.
For a child, this means parents, even abusive parents. And of course, the church, which acts as a third parent for the child.
I've long forgiven many problems related to my upbringing. But when I think about the church, sometimes I feel like old Ivan Isaacs up there.
I'll leave it for responders to point out all the positives of organized religion, as some here (who were not raised religious) will no doubt feel compelled to do. I have the most lovely older nun who frequents my place of employment regularly. Somehow, I think she'd still be a beautiful soul if she had never heard the Good News of Holy Jeebus.