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Re: STFU about Zimmerman. Nobody else gives a crap.

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Avicenna plagiarized Adventure Comics #271, published in 1960, written by Superman's co-creator Jerry Siegel:

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.co ... kent13.jpg

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Here's what the 2 owners of FTB have had to say, on their blogs, about people caught plagiarizing:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/ ... m-inanity/
Ed Brayton, in 2012, wrote:...Our old friend ... in his latest ... column, plagiarizes quite flagrantly from (an online source)...

...I did a ... search and look at the very first sentence ...: ...

A clear case of plagiarism. Yes, he exchanged a couple of words, but the structure and wording of the sentence is unique enough that it should be absolutely obvious that he merely cut and pasted .... This should not be remotely surprising, of course; after all, this is a man who has demonstrated rank intellectual dishonesty many times. ...
http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/ ... giarizing/
Ed Brayton, in 2013, wrote:...caught him dead to rights plagiarizing another author. ...

...copies whole paragraphs verbatim ... Two blatant examples: ...

That isn’t just an honest mistake, that’s a direct cut and paste. Another ... fraud is exposed.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... destructs/
PZ Myers, in 2014, wrote:...he has done the unforgivable: serial plagiarism, and when caught out, has apologized, but simultaneously belittled the seriousness of the offense and blamed it on a campaign by our little neo-conservative atheist cabal of Harris and Boghossian.

I agree that they are wrong about so much else, but when they’re right, they’re right, galling as it is. This is a situation that requires much more reflection and far greater amends than Werleman has given it. He has also effectively written himself out of any of the debates, internal or external, about atheism.

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Skep tickle wrote:Here's what the 2 owners of FTB have had to say, on their blogs, about people caught plagiarizing:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/ ... m-inanity/
Ed Brayton, in 2012, wrote:...Our old friend ... in his latest ... column, plagiarizes quite flagrantly from (an online source)...

...I did a ... search and look at the very first sentence ...: ...

A clear case of plagiarism. Yes, he exchanged a couple of words, but the structure and wording of the sentence is unique enough that it should be absolutely obvious that he merely cut and pasted .... This should not be remotely surprising, of course; after all, this is a man who has demonstrated rank intellectual dishonesty many times. ...
http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/ ... giarizing/
Ed Brayton, in 2013, wrote:...caught him dead to rights plagiarizing another author. ...

...copies whole paragraphs verbatim ... Two blatant examples: ...

That isn’t just an honest mistake, that’s a direct cut and paste. Another ... fraud is exposed.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... destructs/
PZ Myers, in 2014, wrote:...he has done the unforgivable: serial plagiarism, and when caught out, has apologized, but simultaneously belittled the seriousness of the offense and blamed it on a campaign by our little neo-conservative atheist cabal of Harris and Boghossian.

I agree that they are wrong about so much else, but when they’re right, they’re right, galling as it is. This is a situation that requires much more reflection and far greater amends than Werleman has given it. He has also effectively written himself out of any of the debates, internal or external, about atheism.

Avicenna is as blatant & as prolific as Werleman was in plagiarsing. Myers cannot ignore Avi's while calling out Werleman in such a decisive manner. If FTB fail to act on this they will be the laughing stock they so richly deserve to be.



Now watch them excuse it & ignore it.

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Post by Really? »

Skep tickle wrote:Here's what the 2 owners of FTB have had to say, on their blogs, about people caught plagiarizing:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/ ... m-inanity/
Ed Brayton, in 2012, wrote:...Our old friend ... in his latest ... column, plagiarizes quite flagrantly from (an online source)...

...I did a ... search and look at the very first sentence ...: ...

A clear case of plagiarism. Yes, he exchanged a couple of words, but the structure and wording of the sentence is unique enough that it should be absolutely obvious that he merely cut and pasted .... This should not be remotely surprising, of course; after all, this is a man who has demonstrated rank intellectual dishonesty many times. ...
http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/ ... giarizing/
Ed Brayton, in 2013, wrote:...caught him dead to rights plagiarizing another author. ...

...copies whole paragraphs verbatim ... Two blatant examples: ...

That isn’t just an honest mistake, that’s a direct cut and paste. Another ... fraud is exposed.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... destructs/
PZ Myers, in 2014, wrote:...he has done the unforgivable: serial plagiarism, and when caught out, has apologized, but simultaneously belittled the seriousness of the offense and blamed it on a campaign by our little neo-conservative atheist cabal of Harris and Boghossian.

I agree that they are wrong about so much else, but when they’re right, they’re right, galling as it is. This is a situation that requires much more reflection and far greater amends than Werleman has given it. He has also effectively written himself out of any of the debates, internal or external, about atheism.
Wow...awesome catch. Someone needs to image this up.

Avicenna might actually lose his FTBlog.

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Sound of bus wheels rolling over an Indian "doctor" in 3...2...1...?

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Post by dogen »

Lsuoma wrote:Sound? Of bus wheels rolling over an Indian "doctor" in 3...2...1...
FTFY

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FY? FT.

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Someone archived PZ's post defending Avi and saying that he knows who Avi is, etc, yes?

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I'm calling it right now. Nothing will happen. If there is any response from PZ it will be special pleading as to why he hasn't done anything wrong. Otherwise Avi will not lose his blog. There will be no apology or mention of this.

I am willing to real money on this. Not a lot but anyone wants to bet lets talk. Daddy needs a new pair of shoes.

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comhcinc wrote:I'm calling it right now. Nothing will happen. If there is any response from PZ it will be special pleading as to why he hasn't done anything wrong. Otherwise Avi will not lose his blog. There will be no apology or mention of this.

I am willing to real money on this. Not a lot but anyone wants to bet lets talk. Daddy needs a new pair of shoes.
Okay, we have a bet of 10 nude comhcincs...anybody willling to match?

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Post by Southern »

comhcinc wrote:I'm calling it right now. Nothing will happen. If there is any response from PZ it will be special pleading as to why he hasn't done anything wrong. Otherwise Avi will not lose his blog. There will be no apology or mention of this.

I am willing to real money on this. Not a lot but anyone wants to bet lets talk. Daddy needs a new pair of shoes.
I do agree with you. And you know what? He already proved, more than once, that he's perfectly OK with the hypocrisy of his positions. Doxxing (it's ok when I do it to Skeptickle!), blacklisting (it's ok when I do it to Abbie Smith!), threatening to stab people (it's ok when I do it to Christians!), calling rape accusations fake (it's ok when I do it to mine!), you name it. What is a little Avicenna shittery compared to that? Small fries, that's what.

Now, if somehow (and I have my doubts that this is a possible outcome) Ed Brayton ends with some C&D letters from the sources Avicenna plagiarized, then things may be different. Or maybe Myers will double down and act all mighty, "the big press is trying to harass us!" and become more of a joke than he already is. Either way, popcorn aplenty!

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Post by The Yeti »

I just got off work... Holy fuck, the shit has truly hit the fan for our dear Avi. His edifice of bullshit has finally collapsed from its own weight and come crashing down upon him. The timing with Myers' post is just too perfect. PZ-eat crow you fat fuck.
Kudos to @boxofbudgies for that first plagiarism find this morning.

Lurker, caught up.

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I reckon they'll front it out. The excuse can be "Dammit Jim, I'm a Doctor, not a butcher writer".

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HunnyBunny wrote:
Skep tickle wrote:Here's what the 2 owners of FTB have had to say, on their blogs, about people caught plagiarizing:

http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/ ... m-inanity/
Ed Brayton, in 2012, wrote:...Our old friend ... in his latest ... column, plagiarizes quite flagrantly from (an online source)...

...I did a ... search and look at the very first sentence ...: ...

A clear case of plagiarism. Yes, he exchanged a couple of words, but the structure and wording of the sentence is unique enough that it should be absolutely obvious that he merely cut and pasted .... This should not be remotely surprising, of course; after all, this is a man who has demonstrated rank intellectual dishonesty many times. ...
http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/ ... giarizing/
Ed Brayton, in 2013, wrote:...caught him dead to rights plagiarizing another author. ...

...copies whole paragraphs verbatim ... Two blatant examples: ...

That isn’t just an honest mistake, that’s a direct cut and paste. Another ... fraud is exposed.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... destructs/
PZ Myers, in 2014, wrote:...he has done the unforgivable: serial plagiarism, and when caught out, has apologized, but simultaneously belittled the seriousness of the offense and blamed it on a campaign by our little neo-conservative atheist cabal of Harris and Boghossian.

I agree that they are wrong about so much else, but when they’re right, they’re right, galling as it is. This is a situation that requires much more reflection and far greater amends than Werleman has given it. He has also effectively written himself out of any of the debates, internal or external, about atheism.

Avicenna is as blatant & as prolific as Werleman was in plagiarsing. Myers cannot ignore Avi's while calling out Werleman in such a decisive manner. If FTB fail to act on this they will be the laughing stock they so richly deserve to be.



Now watch them excuse it & ignore it.
Glass Houses, little Paul.

You copied one of my blogposts in its entirety, and openly mocked my copyright claim. That's unauthorized use of intellectual property for commercial gain. a.k.a. "theft." See you soon, Paul.

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CaptainFluffyBunny wrote: Okay, we have a bet of 10 nude comhcincs...anybody willling to match?
It makes me happy that you think that nude pictures of me are worth money. Do you have any land for sale? :D

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CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
comhcinc wrote:I'm calling it right now. Nothing will happen. If there is any response from PZ it will be special pleading as to why he hasn't done anything wrong. Otherwise Avi will not lose his blog. There will be no apology or mention of this.

I am willing to real money on this. Not a lot but anyone wants to bet lets talk. Daddy needs a new pair of shoes.
Okay, we have a bet of 10 nude comhcincs...anybody willling to match?
I bet 20 rayshuls but I didn't have any to back my bet up. She only ponied up (sorry Matt) some reverse vampire porn.

Shit... I bet that when FTB / Ed Brayton get the slightest whiff of a pissed off journalist that Avicenna plagiarized... down goes the blog. Floosh, like a turd that greg laid.

I'll wager 1 picture of me where you aren't sure if it's my knee cap or my balls being folded in a soft-focus slymepit manner.

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Post by dogen »

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: Glass Houses, little Paul.

You copied one of my blogposts in its entirety, and openly mocked my copyright claim. That's unauthorized use of intellectual property for commercial gain. a.k.a. "theft." See you soon, Paul.

[youtube]D9UzH7Odt20[/youtube]
Going off on a tangent here, but:

[youtube]vskHXtPuvBk[/youtube]

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Post by comhcinc »

Parody Accountant wrote:
I'll wager 1 picture of me where you aren't sure if it's my knee cap or my balls being folded in a soft-focus slymepit manner.

My balls are much bigger than my knees.....I probably should have keep that to myself :roll:

I don't have hit submit........Why did I do this?

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The Yeti wrote:I just got off work... Holy fuck, the shit has truly hit the fan for our dear Avi. His edifice of bullshit has finally collapsed from its own weight and come crashing down upon him. The timing with Myers' post is just too perfect. PZ-eat crow you fat fuck.
Kudos to @boxofbudgies for that first plagiarism find this morning.
Hey Yeti...

http://i.imgur.com/kGeIIGc.png

... for kicking the door in, now the whole rotten structure is collapsing.

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Post by dog puke »

CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
comhcinc wrote:I'm calling it right now. Nothing will happen. If there is any response from PZ it will be special pleading as to why he hasn't done anything wrong. Otherwise Avi will not lose his blog. There will be no apology or mention of this.

I am willing to real money on this. Not a lot but anyone wants to bet lets talk. Daddy needs a new pair of shoes.
Okay, we have a bet of 10 nude comhcincs...anybody willling to match?
I bet 100 Twatloos.

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Post by Old_ones »

comhcinc wrote:I'm calling it right now. Nothing will happen. If there is any response from PZ it will be special pleading as to why he hasn't done anything wrong. Otherwise Avi will not lose his blog. There will be no apology or mention of this.

I am willing to real money on this. Not a lot but anyone wants to bet lets talk. Daddy needs a new pair of shoes.
I think you are wrong based on the Laden precedent. Laden used to blog on FTB but got kicked off the network when Justin Griffith produced emails Laden had sent him with an abusive and threatening tone. I think that was a situation where then incident became impossible to ignore and so PZ and Brayton didn't. IMO this is a similar situation to that. So I think Avicenna will get kicked off the FTB network.

On the other hand, Vacula and Zvan kept ties to Laden, and probably the same thing will happen here. Avi will set up a wordpress blog, and Peezis will be approvingly quoting its variously plagiarized content in 2-3 months.

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Post by dog puke »

Southern wrote:
comhcinc wrote:I'm calling it right now. Nothing will happen. If there is any response from PZ it will be special pleading as to why he hasn't done anything wrong. Otherwise Avi will not lose his blog. There will be no apology or mention of this.

I am willing to real money on this. Not a lot but anyone wants to bet lets talk. Daddy needs a new pair of shoes.
I do agree with you. And you know what? He already proved, more than once, that he's perfectly OK with the hypocrisy of his positions. Doxxing (it's ok when I do it to Skeptickle!), blacklisting (it's ok when I do it to Abbie Smith!), threatening to stab people (it's ok when I do it to Christians!), calling rape accusations fake (it's ok when I do it to mine!), you name it. What is a little Avicenna shittery compared to that? Small fries, that's what.

Now, if somehow (and I have my doubts that this is a possible outcome) Ed Brayton ends with some C&D letters from the sources Avicenna plagiarized, then things may be different. Or maybe Myers will double down and act all mighty, "the big press is trying to harass us!" and become more of a joke than he already is. Either way, popcorn aplenty!
Any scenario is possible, but places like the Guardian not only have much deeper pockets should they be pissed off - but - and probably more important - that they have a much larger audience and greater public influence and if they felt like doing a Michael Nugent on FTB. Well then...

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

My investment in Consolidated Popcorn Megacorp Inc. shares will finally pay off.

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Post by dogen »

I've got a new game for us to play, called You've Been Avi'd!

The rules are pretty simple: you have to guess which of two quotes is the original, and which is the plagiarized version by Avicenna.

Links are given at the end to the original texts -- but no peeking until you've made your picks!

So:
The Oxford, Cambridge and RSA Exam board (OCR) launched an investigation into exam malpractice at the Yesodey Hatorah Jewish Voluntary Aided girls' secondary school after the National Secular Society formally asked it to follow up unconfirmed reports that teachers had redacted questions in this year's GSCE science exam.

The precise questions that were blacked out has not been revealed by OCR, but earlier this year a Jewish education consultant warned that evolution in the new GCSE science curriculum could pose problems for strictly Orthodox schools.

The investigation confirmed pupils were left disadvantaged by being unable to access 3 marks out of 75 for a unit in a higher GCSE science exam, and 1 mark out of 75 for a unit on a lower paper.
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Yesodey Hatorah Jewish Voluntary Aided girls’ secondary school is being investigated formally after students asked it to follow up unconfirmed reports that teachers had redacted questions in this year’s GSCE science exam.

The precise questions that were blacked out has not been revealed by OCR, but it is believed to be questions on evolution that would sit uneasily with Orthodox Jewish Creationists.

The investigation confirmed pupils were left disadvantaged by being unable to access 3 marks out of 75 for a unit in a higher GCSE science exam, and 1 mark out of 75 for a unit on a lower paper.
Which is the original, and which from our favorite copyright infringer?

http://freethoughtblogs.com/amilliongod ... 1/ostrich/
http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2013/ ... xam-papers

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dogen wrote:I've got a new game for us to play, called You've Been Avi'd!

[... lots o' snip ...]
Are there any strong female characters?

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Post by Brive1987 »

This is very cool and kudos to all the drivers.

FtB will never kick a supported poc from the network because of a slymepit case - regardless of evidence.

We don't exist to them.

This needs to be pushed by mainstream IP owners - or get picked up by other online publishers. Unfortunately Avi is a big fat nobody, so there is a return to effort conundrum at play.

Where's Damion when you need him - and skepticink? Also it would help if the evidence was collated in visually consistent "low reading effort required" info graphics - so the plagiarism was really in your face.

And a Mykeru video would help. Oh, that's right. I forgot.

"Actually it's about ethics in social justice journalism".

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Post by CaptainFluffyBunny »

dogen wrote:I've got a new game for us to play, called You've Been Avi'd!

The rules are pretty simple: you have to guess which of two quotes is the original, and which is the plagiarized version by Avicenna.

Links are given at the end to the original texts -- but no peeking until you've made your picks!

So:
The Oxford, Cambridge and RSA Exam board (OCR) launched an investigation into exam malpractice at the Yesodey Hatorah Jewish Voluntary Aided girls' secondary school after the National Secular Society formally asked it to follow up unconfirmed reports that teachers had redacted questions in this year's GSCE science exam.

The precise questions that were blacked out has not been revealed by OCR, but earlier this year a Jewish education consultant warned that evolution in the new GCSE science curriculum could pose problems for strictly Orthodox schools.

The investigation confirmed pupils were left disadvantaged by being unable to access 3 marks out of 75 for a unit in a higher GCSE science exam, and 1 mark out of 75 for a unit on a lower paper.
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Yesodey Hatorah Jewish Voluntary Aided girls’ secondary school is being investigated formally after students asked it to follow up unconfirmed reports that teachers had redacted questions in this year’s GSCE science exam.

The precise questions that were blacked out has not been revealed by OCR, but it is believed to be questions on evolution that would sit uneasily with Orthodox Jewish Creationists.

The investigation confirmed pupils were left disadvantaged by being unable to access 3 marks out of 75 for a unit in a higher GCSE science exam, and 1 mark out of 75 for a unit on a lower paper.
Which is the original, and which from our favorite copyright infringer?

http://freethoughtblogs.com/amilliongod ... 1/ostrich/
http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2013/ ... xam-papers
Good game, got it right. Next please...

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Old_ones wrote:
comhcinc wrote:I'm calling it right now. Nothing will happen. If there is any response from PZ it will be special pleading as to why he hasn't done anything wrong. Otherwise Avi will not lose his blog. There will be no apology or mention of this.

I am willing to real money on this. Not a lot but anyone wants to bet lets talk. Daddy needs a new pair of shoes.
I think you are wrong based on the Laden precedent. Laden used to blog on FTB but got kicked off the network when Justin Griffith produced emails Laden had sent him with an abusive and threatening tone. I think that was a situation where then incident became impossible to ignore and so PZ and Brayton didn't. IMO this is a similar situation to that. So I think Avicenna will get kicked off the FTB network.

On the other hand, Vacula and Zvan kept ties to Laden, and probably the same thing will happen here. Avi will set up a wordpress blog, and Peezis will be approvingly quoting its variously plagiarized content in 2-3 months.
I disagree. Avi isn't threatening people. He is "just" being intellectually dishonest. That's Pz's wheel house.

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Post by Brive1987 »

Now for something completely different.

Bikini girl gets tasered for charity. @8 mins in.


[youtube]AEeYi3FrukA[/youtube]

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Post by SoylentAtheist »

dog puke wrote:
dogen wrote:I've got a new game for us to play, called You've Been Avi'd!
[... lots o' snip ...]
Are there any strong female characters?
Well I recall at least one in the early episodes that dumped his ass.

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Post by CaptainFluffyBunny »

Either way, Little Paul has a bit of a headache on his hands. Right, Little Paul?

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Post by dogen »

Ready for more You've Been Avi'd? This one's easier.
The Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health (RCPCH) said the nation needs deal with the growing gap between rich and poor to have any impact on high mortality rates since with the current economic crisis, the poorest are affected the most. With plans to cut child support, this is a critical issue.

Meanwhile public health policies to reduce child deaths are “piecemeal”,

Youngsters in the UK are at a higher risk of premature death than their peers in western Europe according to the Why Children Die report says.
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The Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health (RCPCH) said the nation needs to get to grips with the growing gap between rich and poor to have any impact on high mortality rates.

Meanwhile public health policies to reduce child deaths are "piecemeal", according to the RCPCH's latest report.

Youngsters in the UK are at a higher risk of premature death than their peers in western Europe, the Why Children Die report says.
Did you spot the bad editing?

http://freethoughtblogs.com/amilliongod ... in-the-uk/
http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/n ... verty_gap/

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comhcinc wrote:
Old_ones wrote:
comhcinc wrote:I'm calling it right now. Nothing will happen. If there is any response from PZ it will be special pleading as to why he hasn't done anything wrong. Otherwise Avi will not lose his blog. There will be no apology or mention of this.

I am willing to real money on this. Not a lot but anyone wants to bet lets talk. Daddy needs a new pair of shoes.
I think you are wrong based on the Laden precedent. Laden used to blog on FTB but got kicked off the network when Justin Griffith produced emails Laden had sent him with an abusive and threatening tone. I think that was a situation where then incident became impossible to ignore and so PZ and Brayton didn't. IMO this is a similar situation to that. So I think Avicenna will get kicked off the FTB network.

On the other hand, Vacula and Zvan kept ties to Laden, and probably the same thing will happen here. Avi will set up a wordpress blog, and Peezis will be approvingly quoting its variously plagiarized content in 2-3 months.
I disagree. Avi isn't threatening people. He is "just" being intellectually dishonest. That's Pz's wheel house.
Honestly, I wouldn't be that surprised if you were right. I just think at the end of the day Peezis will want to save face as much as possible for the sake of his ego. Its harder to think of yourself as an intellectual if you condone blatant instances of plagiarism. If Peez was following the policy most universities hold and one of his students turned in an essay like the ones Avi has been writing, he'd have to fail that student. I can't believe that connection is lost on him.

In any case, it should be interesting to see what the response is or isn't. If you are right I''ll definitely interpret it as conformation that he has completely thrown his academic standards to the wind.

:popcorn:

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I'm fucking GREAT at You've been Avi'd!!!

I WIN AGAIN.

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rayshul wrote:I'm fucking GREAT at You've been Avi'd!!!

I WIN AGAIN.
I hope our FtB lurkers are enjoying it as much as we are.

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And now a special You've Been Avi'd episode, featuring that great British organ of truth The Daily Mail. Have at it, my slymies!
Conservatives had harshly criticized the draft and proposed extensive revisions to restate church doctrine, which holds that gay sex is "intrinsically disordered," but that gays themselves are to be respected, and that marriage is only between a man and a woman.
Conservatives had harshly criticized the draft and proposed extensive revisions to restate church doctrine, which holds that gay sex is “intrinsically disordered,” but that gays themselves are to be respected, and that marriage is only between a man and woman.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/amilliongod ... step-back/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/art ... roval.html

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CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
rayshul wrote:I'm fucking GREAT at You've been Avi'd!!!

I WIN AGAIN.
I hope our FtB lurkers are enjoying it as much as we are.
Yes. Hello to our eight to ten guests. Some of whom, I must assume, are from FTB and are trying to figure out how they tolerated a dirty, filthy, plagiarist for so long.

Please don't forget to check out the Hall of Evidence:

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=431

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dogen wrote:And now a special You've Been Avi'd episode, featuring that great British organ of truth The Daily Mail. Have at it, my slymies!
Conservatives had harshly criticized the draft and proposed extensive revisions to restate church doctrine, which holds that gay sex is "intrinsically disordered," but that gays themselves are to be respected, and that marriage is only between a man and a woman.
Conservatives had harshly criticized the draft and proposed extensive revisions to restate church doctrine, which holds that gay sex is “intrinsically disordered,” but that gays themselves are to be respected, and that marriage is only between a man and woman.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/amilliongod ... step-back/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/art ... roval.html
Oh, so not fair.......

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I can't believe this shit, it's fucking incredible.

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16 at the moment

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Back to our regular You've Been Avi'd programming, with plagiarism from a more pedestrian source (Reuters):
Despite announcing the freeing of the 200 hostages, there have still been no signs of progress from Boko Haram. Currently? Talks are ongoing in Chad’s capital of N’Djamena but they aren’t being reported on.

In a separate attack, a bomb exploded late on Wednesday at a bus station in the town of Azare in northern Nigeria’s Bauchi state, killing at least five people and wounding 12, police said. They did not comment on who was behind the attack, although Boko Haram is likely to be the prime suspect. These public bombings have killed hundreds this year alone.
Talks to release the schoolgirls are taking place this week between the government and a Boko Haram representative in the Chadian capital N'Djamena, but they are shrouded in secrecy.

In a separate attack, a bomb exploded late on Wednesday at a bus station in the town of Azare in northern Nigeria's Bauchi state, killing at least five people and wounding 12, police said. They did not comment on who was behind the attack, although Boko Haram is likely to be the prime suspect.
(Yes, this one's a give-away!)

http://freethoughtblogs.com/amilliongod ... n-nigeria/
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/ ... XN20141023

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CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
dogen wrote:And now a special You've Been Avi'd episode, featuring that great British organ of truth The Daily Mail. Have at it, my slymies!
Conservatives had harshly criticized the draft and proposed extensive revisions to restate church doctrine, which holds that gay sex is "intrinsically disordered," but that gays themselves are to be respected, and that marriage is only between a man and a woman.
Conservatives had harshly criticized the draft and proposed extensive revisions to restate church doctrine, which holds that gay sex is “intrinsically disordered,” but that gays themselves are to be respected, and that marriage is only between a man and woman.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/amilliongod ... step-back/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/art ... roval.html
Oh, so not fair.......
But they are different. Did you see how Avi jazzed up the Mail's tired prose?

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dogen wrote:
CaptainFluffyBunny wrote:
Conservatives had harshly criticized the draft and proposed extensive revisions to restate church doctrine, which holds that gay sex is "intrinsically disordered," but that gays themselves are to be respected, and that marriage is only between a man and a woman.
Conservatives had harshly criticized the draft and proposed extensive revisions to restate church doctrine, which holds that gay sex is “intrinsically disordered,” but that gays themselves are to be respected, and that marriage is only between a man and woman.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/amilliongod ... step-back/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/art ... roval.html

But they are different. Did you see how Avi jazzed up the Mail's tired prose?
Exactly. The Daily Mail one is like

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2012/d ... ce-300.jpg

And Avi's is like

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2012/d ... ce-300.jpg

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rayshul wrote:I can't believe this shit, it's fucking incredible.
It is a little surreal, isn't it? You expect a little pedestrian evil, but not on this scale. The thinking, the motivation defies logic, reason and common sense. I know he is reading this..maybe pop in and explain, Avi?

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And now a special You've Been Avi'd for geography wonks:
Dr Dhanoun Dharmasena, 31, of Ilford, Essex, will be prosecuted for an alleged offence while working at the Whittington Hospital in London.

Hasan Mohamed, 40, of Holloway, north London, faces a charge of intentionally encouraging female genital mutilation.
Dr Dhanuson Dharmasena, 31, of Ilford, east London, will be prosecuted for an alleged offence while working at the Whittington Hospital in London.

Hasan Mohamed, 40, of Holloway, north London, faces a charge of intentionally encouraging female genital mutilation.
Is Ilford in east London or Essex? Avi thinks he knows!

http://freethoughtblogs.com/amilliongod ... rst-trial/


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Please just do me a favor please no one name it "gate". Please please Please.

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Bwhahahahahahah

Too late.

Everything's a "gate". Ask SaraM.

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comhcinc wrote:Please just do me a favor please no one name it "gate". Please please Please.
Is be okay. We name it "Avighazi", is good, yes?

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As you are reading PeeZus, just copy and paste your condemnations of plagiarism that you have published in the past and change the name where appropriate to 'Avicenna'. Won't take more than a minute.

If you don't know how to copy and paste , ask your fellow bloggers.

And then donate all the money Avicenna has got from FTB to all these charities he is supporting.

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I have to wonder if there isn't another FtBlogger ot Skepchick frantically checking and deleting posts tonight.

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Brive1987 wrote:Bwhahahahahahah

Too late.

Everything's a "gate". Ask SaraM.
No no no. It's not too late. How about hinge?

Avihinge or Plagiarismhinge. I am not sure what a hinge is but I have always thought them cool.

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comhcinc wrote:Please just do me a favor please no one name it "gate". Please please Please.
May I suggest Avi-moveable-barrier-at-entrance?


or...


Avi-egress?




Avi-portal?

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Sara, make room for some more.

http://i.imgur.com/VT3YFVd.jpg

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From the Avicenna Journal of Medicine, "Publication Ethics and Publication Malpractice Statement"

(I kid you not)

http://www.avicennajmed.com/pubethics.asp
Fair play
Manuscripts shall be evaluated solely on their intellectual content without regard to race, gender, sexual orientation, religious belief, ethnic origin, citizenship, or political philosophy of the authors.
Originality and Plagiarism
Authors should ensure that submitted work is original and has not been published elsewhere in any language, and if the authors have used the work and/or words of others that this has been appropriately cited or quoted. Applicable copyright laws and conventions should be followed. Plagiarism in any form, including the touting of material contained in another paper (of the same authors or some other author) with cosmetic changes as a new paper; copying or paraphrasing substantial parts of another’s paper (without attribution), and claiming results from research conducted by others are among the numerous forms of plagiarism. In all its forms plagiarism constitutes unethical publishing behavior and is unacceptable.
Acknowledgement of Sources
Proper acknowledgment of the work of others must always be given. Authors should cite publications that have been influential in determining the nature of the reported work. Information obtained privately, as in conversation, correspondence, or discussion with third parties, must not be used or reported without explicit, written, permission from the source.

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By the way, did I miss the news that Kaley Cuoco doesn't really consider herself a feminist?

That Kaley Cuoco? The same Kaley Cuoco that Rebecca Watson tried to use as a tool to discourage drunken sex, and not so subtly imply that she was the one being taken advantaged of and not the man?

Oh my. This year is off to a great start! (Well, for some. My condelences to Sara Mayhew. Hopes she cheers up soon.)

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dogen wrote:I've got a new game for us to play, called You've Been Avi'd!
I guessed these right simply by figuring out which was the more poorly written. That was easy.

For the one that was identical apart from the smart quotes, I guessed the original had normal quotes, and Avicenna's "in built writer" converted them to smart quotes. Not sure why he also decided to remove a random 'a'. Maybe his clipboard software really is broken.

The east London/Essex one was just luck.

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And now for the I Can Haz MD edition of the ever-popular You've Been Avi'd, wherein our good Doctor plagiarizes his medical facts from.... Wikipedia.

:bjarte:
As of April 2014, more than 170 million doses of Gardasil had been distributed worldwide. The vaccine was tested in thousands of females (ages 9 to 26). The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) consider the vaccine to be safe. It does not contain mercury, thiomersal, live viruses or dead viruses, but virus-like particles, which cannot reproduce in the human body.

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A Kaiser Permanente study tracking 190,000 girls and women post-vaccination for two years found that rates of the autoimmune disorders lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, juvenile rheumatoid arthritis, idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura (ITP), hemolytic anemia, multiple sclerosis, thyroiditis and type 1 diabetes mellitus in vaccinated populations were the same as in unvaccinated populations.
As of April 2014, more than 170 million doses of Gardasil had been distributed worldwide. The vaccine was tested in thousands of females (ages 9 to 26). It does not contain mercury, thiomersal, live viruses or dead viruses, but virus-like particles, which cannot reproduce in the human body.

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A Kaiser Permanente study tracking 190,000 girls and women post-vaccination for two years found that rates of the autoimmune disorders lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, juvenile rheumatoid arthritis, idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura (ITP), hemolytic anemia, multiple sclerosis, thyroiditis and type 1 diabetes mellitus in vaccinated populations were the same as in unvaccinated populations.
(the [...] is mine, indicating cut text. Also, I cut out the footnotes from the Wikipedia version -- that would have made it too easy. No need to do that with Avi's version, of course; but I did need to remove numerous 'Â' characters from his fucked-up copypasting.)

http://freethoughtblogs.com/amilliongod ... -gardasil/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gardasil

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Skep tickle wrote:From the Avicenna Journal of Medicine, "Publication Ethics and Publication Malpractice Statement"

(I kid you not)

http://www.avicennajmed.com/pubethics.asp
Fair play
Manuscripts shall be evaluated solely on their intellectual content without regard to race, gender, sexual orientation, religious belief, ethnic origin, citizenship, or political philosophy of the authors.
Originality and Plagiarism
Authors should ensure that submitted work is original and has not been published elsewhere in any language, and if the authors have used the work and/or words of others that this has been appropriately cited or quoted. Applicable copyright laws and conventions should be followed. Plagiarism in any form, including the touting of material contained in another paper (of the same authors or some other author) with cosmetic changes as a new paper; copying or paraphrasing substantial parts of another’s paper (without attribution), and claiming results from research conducted by others are among the numerous forms of plagiarism. In all its forms plagiarism constitutes unethical publishing behavior and is unacceptable.
Acknowledgement of Sources
Proper acknowledgment of the work of others must always be given. Authors should cite publications that have been influential in determining the nature of the reported work. Information obtained privately, as in conversation, correspondence, or discussion with third parties, must not be used or reported without explicit, written, permission from the source.
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Skep tickle wrote:From the Avicenna Journal of Medicine, "Publication Ethics and Publication Malpractice Statement"
It would be tragic if this serial plagiarist manages to sully the historical Avicenna's name.

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Right, I'm off to bed. Please feel free to contribute your own episodes of You've Been Avi'd -- it's not hard!

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